Capitalism turning electric vehicles into a horrible, unproductive, ugly symbol of right wing fascism is wild as shit to see in my lifetime.
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Had to look up the Edsel to see what a shifter in the middle of the steering wheel would look like.

On the next car I design, the shifter will be located in the trunk. Just to keep things interesting.
The only thing nuttier might be door release handles under the floor mats.
So you own a Tesla, I see.
Nah, but the crash after which four people burned to death while talking to the 911 dispatcher because they couldn't open the doors happened just outside my city.
I've been in cars with electronic doors and the emergency latch is always super obvious, brightly coloured, and in one case glowed in the dark. For some reason Tesla feel the need to hide it.
How about sticking it somewhere between the engine and transmission? When operating it in the winter, your fingers would stay nice and warm.
I wish we had more variation in car designs but I suppose it would make licencing difficult. I'd like it if we could drive with foot pedals, push down to accelerate and twist left and right to turn like how it works on an aircraft. Then you could drive hands-free.
More dangerous than the Pinto, too
The thing the Pinto was famous for, its fuel tank being in the rear and exploring, only killed 27 people according to the NHTSA. So pretty low bar.
Ford also voluntarily recalled 1.5 million of them and addressed the fuel tank issue that caused the problem.
"Fixing" the cybertruck would involve offering refunds scrapping them.
All that lithium sitting in storage lots, wasted. Tesla could save the CT with some sort of body kit conversion that tears it down to the frame and rebuilds it as a more traditional truck. It’ll still not be a great truck, but better than letting all those batteries rot.
The frame is unfortunately a piece of poorly designed garbage too, even ignoring the Whistling Diesel torture test. And you can't make something that isn't a cybertruck using it, because:

It's not a traditional frame with a body built on top. It essentially is the cybertruck.
They could (but won't) design a vehicle that isn't ridiculous and offer cybertruck owners a rebate on trade in. Yank the batteries, motors, and anything else that can be reused and scrap the rest.
We used to have standards for our vehicles
This is actually really funny, because Ralph Nader literally started his activist career pointing out that they didn’t in 1965.
The book, critical of the automotive industry, argued that many American automobiles were generally unsafe to operate.
Auto manufacturers were eventually forced to add seatbelts and protection for roll-overs.
Nader’s book was cited as the reason to create what became the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
When the original bill was passed,
Speaker of the United States House of Representatives John William McCormack said the passage of the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act was brought about by the "crusading spirit of one individual who believed he could do something: Ralph Nader.”
GMs president Alfred Sloane refused to install safety glass and boasted to investors: "GM doesn't make cars, it makes money".
He also had to modify the corvair he claimed was unsafe to cause it to do unsafe things... Nader is a piece of shit.
Oh totally, Nader is the piece of shit here…
In response to Nader's criticisms, GM attempted to sabotage Nader's reputation. It "(1) conducted a series of interviews with acquaintances of the plaintiff, 'questioning them about, and casting aspersions upon [his] political, social, racial and religious views; his integrity; his sexual proclivities and inclinations; and his personal habits'; (2) kept him under surveillance in public places for an unreasonable length of time; (3) caused him to be accosted by girls for the purpose of entrapping him into illicit relationships; (4) made threatening, harassing and obnoxious telephone calls to him; (5) tapped his telephone and eavesdropped, by means of mechanical and electronic equipment, on his private conversations with others; and (6) conducted a 'continuing' and harassing investigation of him."
Nader, on the other hand, literally took the money he won for GM’s harassment and intimidation and put it into a consumer protection organization.
Then
He went on to lobby for consumer rights, helping drive the creation of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and the passage of the Clean Air Act, among others
You’re fucking delusional to pretend he was the bad guy in this situation.
Whoa, dude, personal attack much?
Two things can be true. The car manufacturers are massive pieces of shit as most corporations are, but also Nader is a piece of shit...
He picked a target and fudged the data until it said what he wanted. Just because he was doing it to promote something good doesn't make it right.
All cars out of Detroit were designed like that. They only went after Ford because Pinto sold well.
I know I shouldn't judge people without getting to know them but every time I see a cyber truck, I immediately think that the owner must be a gigantic douche canoe.
by the time the cybertruck started delivering, all pretense of who its maker really was was gone. no longer could you think of him as "just the electric car guy who was in the MCU that time and likes posting memes." It was ABUNDANTLY obvious that he was a fascist boot heel. i can see any tesla on the road but the cybertuck and the model Y and rationalize that someone bought it without knowing, or sold it at a steep loss to someone who just needed a car. but the two newest models in the lineup? those directly funded fascism
Fiero wins again!
It might sometimes be on fire, but unlike a cybertruck you can put it out!
At least the Cybertruck makes sure you don't need to buy a new car, by locking its doors. /s
Man I LOVE the fiero... And I hate that I do.
I daily one, I know just what you are going though.
Man what a wonderful pile of pontiac shit it is.
You daily a fiero? Do you do the oil changes yourself? Which engine do you have? And did you or any previous owners change the gear ratios?
I love the fiero's of people who know what they are doing with them. If I win the lottery I would get one and have it converted to electric.
I drive a 85 Gt, with the V6 but have 2 others as parts cars. No other owner has changed the ratios as I have standard transmissions in all 3 of them. I do most of my own work, oil on a fiero is no issue. Most recently I hit a deer and just finished changing parts and getting a new windshield in it (and added too many deer whistles).
I would like to convert one of the parts cars to electric, but the costs are kinda messed up.
Like so much over the past decade or so, I really thought it was a joke when I first saw one.
Maybe because it can't survive a trip to the carwash
Who could have possibly foreseen this?
Shhh!
What about datacenters in space??!! 😮😛!!!
They've moved on to mirrors in space now, after briefly experimenting with advertising on the moon which they gave up on when they realised no one would be able to see it.
Probably because the are so noticeable, but I see 2 or 3 of them on my way to/from work. Hard to tell them apart, but that is a lot in the 20 miles I go.
They tend to be concentrated in my experience. Big tech hubs have a higher concentration. I see a lot of them around Seattle for example.
I wish I didn't have to see one almost every time I drive somewhere. They are such a standout eyesore that it feels like I see them constantly.
I think they are very impressive looking iconic cars in a vacuum, like DeLoreans. Everything else is really unfortunate about then, but imo the eyesore part largely comes from the -very justified- cultural baggage and pretty much that only.
DeLoreans are way cooler than these cars. The cybertruck is a Pontiac Aztek designed by a toddler. It's ugly from virtually every angle
Without the cultural baggage, yeah, they are interesting looking from the side and front quarter angles. But the back side undeniably looks like a trash can or dumpster. I was behind one yesterday with a pink/green hueshift wrap. When I was in traffic behind it, it just looked like I had a green dumpster in front of me lol.
Nah they're ugly af.
If you wrap them (like you should), then you can make them look cool though. Some of my favorites that I've seen are bright pink, yellow, and various wraps covered in decals.
Without wrapping them, they look like scrap metal on wheels.
I'm terrified of them they're basically mobile knives. In an accident they could do so much damage, especially anything involving pedestrians. Musk has been caught faking safety details also.
Well now I get to laugh even harder at the suckers who bought them.
See way too many of these ugly shit-boxes in Vancouver.
How common are these in the rest of America? I see them pretty often here in SF but assume it's just a techie Elon stan thing.
Not super common where I live!
I see 1-2 a month, at most. Lots of other Teslas, but few people are buying Cybertrucks in the middle of the U.S.
Common enough in Seattle (but that may just be biased by how noticeable they are due to the incongruity of the shape).
I'm not in America, but they are fairly rare where I live (Canada). Like if I go for a drive in traffic on a commute, I maybe will see one or two at the very most. And it's usually the same ones that I am seeing when I do see them.
I mean the market for a vehicle that's >100k, looks like the truck you drew as a child when you were asked to draw a truck, that has almost zero utility and almost certainly has to be awkward as fuck to drive and park due to its width and size, I mean that market is right next to zero. My seven year old is pretty into them though.
I mean, Tesla employs a ton of people in þe Bay area. Þere's a Tesla factory in Fremont, isn't þere? Þere must be more Teslas per capita here þan anywhere else in þe world. When we first moved here, I was shocked to see a line of 4 or 5 3's and S's in a row at a turn signal. And Cyberturds, soooo many. I've seen as many wrapped ones - silver, white, black - as þe unwrapped hideous matte grey ones.
I don't þink þe Bay area is at all representative of þe rest of þe US. Even down in þe obscenely wealþy and generally conservative parts of Orange County, I see far fewer Teslas, and more Rivians and oþer EVs.
I see one a day in Canada. Owners bought them before they realized Musk was a Nazi but they can't sell them because no dealer will take them on trade-in. Many for sale on used lots, they just sit there, not rusting.
It's bad... But the Pontiac Aztek was a thing.
But the Aztek was the first crossover. Part car, part SUV. The world didn’t know they wanted it yet. Now almost every vehicle is either a truck or a CUV. I can’t see what is going to be redeemable about the CT. Maybe electric pickups will take off among the Tradies, but CT wasn’t even first there.
Didn't it get a redemption ark with Breaking Bad?
I don't know if being given to a character to prove how shitty his life is can qualify as a redemption ark.
Yeah good point. I was mainly talking from the perspective of the car though. Prior to that show, no show would have dared to write that car into a story, that's how bad the Aztek reception was to my recollection. The fact that it was in the show at all made it a redemption. And the effect of it being in the show, despite it being discontinued, caused a jump in sales on the used market.

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