FundMECFS comments on It’s Looking Like the Cybertruck Is the Biggest Flop in Automotive History

[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip -4 points 3 months ago* (6 children)

I wish to say that while electric cars are better than ICE cars for the environment, their lifetime emissions especially if required infrastructure is taken into account is really high, and they aren’t as “green” as car manufacturers make them seem. It’s just an inefficient use of energy and space that requires massive amounts of polluting asphalt per person using that mode of transport.

This article is interesting as sort of touches on this

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[–] chahk@beehaw.org 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

This bullshit has been thoroughly debunked many many times.

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[–] tburkhol@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Interestingly, the specific article cited is more making the case that all passenger cars are bad, and we'd be better off with e-bikes, transit, and walkable cities. i.e.: I don't think hes saying 'EVs are worse than ICE," which is where the 'lifetime emissions' line usually goes. He's saying "fuck cars, EVs not excepted."

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[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

This is the reality many don’t accept.

We can’t everyone gets a private vehicle our way out of climate change.

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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 points 3 months ago

We could if we got rid of wars, regulated environmental factors, and stopped letting rich people take private jets everywhere.

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[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

Did you even read the article, because no.

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[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 1 point 3 months ago

I did. That is the one thing the article said without citing a source. It is a common anti-EV talking point and like the person you responded to said, it has been debunked. On top of that, most of the time the environmental impact of transporting and refining oil are not taken into account.

https://www.ucs.org/sites/default/files/2022-09/driving-cleaner-report.pdf

It's kind of a shame, because overall I agree with the point of the article. Increasing the ability to use bikes and improving public transit are way more efficient, but EVs are a good option in areas where those are not currently viable.

Are EVs perfect? Hell no. Should we throw the baby out with the bathwater, though? Battery technology is getting better. Batteries that don't use high impact resources like cobalt are becoming viable.