This sounds so "set in stone" but the vote doesn't occur until later this month. Do they just know how everyone is going to vote somehow? Like they saw the checks being written by the ISPs
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This is just so blatantly anti consumer. Like, who other than the ISPs themselves are in favour of this?
Who does this help? Neverminding the obvious, "haha helping the ISPs screw over the people".
But like, the whole job of the FCC is to protect people from companies.... so.... they can't just say "we're screwing you over". They have to at least try and come up with a reason as why doing this is in the people's best interest. So, again... who is this helping? Like, how are they selling this?
You kind of answered your own question. But yeah, the job of the FCC under the Trump Regime is to help corporations / the rich grift and steal as much from American citizens as possible. This change furthers the ability of both Trump and the ruling class of oligarchs to do just that.
If the FCC members play along, they might benefit from some of the corruption personally. If not, they will be publicly bullied and/or replaced. Trump operates as if he is a mob boss.
This concerted effort to rob our people is a large part of what the DOGE firings aimed to achieve in the beginning of the regime’s 2nd term - get rid of anyone who would protest, and definitely get rid of all the watchdogs (inspectors general) whose job it was to ensure this doesn’t happen. It is no coincidence that at the same time the press is manufacturing consent for this repeal, Starlink is preparing to tack on massive amounts of fees for its users.
They're not. They're not selling this. It's a push under the rug kinda situation.
Didn't Verizon say it's too hard for them to list their fees and that was an acceptable claim for them to stop doing so?
Trump voters really voted to get scammed and a worst quality of life for everyone else lol. There is not one thing good this admin has done.
Let's see... They slowed down the war that they started in Iran. They released half of the Epstein files, just not the presumably 50% that directly implicate Trump. Trump fired Pam Bondi who he had appointed.
It's hard to think of anything good that they did that wasn't just toning down or backtracking of something bad that they had previously done.
Its literally just an abuse-manipulation tactic at that point.
Going overboard, then retreating back only slightly to give the false impression of being reasonable, when theyve already got what they want.
Throw it on the pile of shit that the public will never acknowledge, yes I know.
and hired TODD blanche, who is even more tied to EPSTEIN than bondi is. trump likely is keeping him close so he doesnt rat on trump down the line.
The penny is gone. That was 30 years overdue.
Kind of. With no unified plan or support to transition.
All you need is to stop considering pennies legal tender but require banks to still accept them for changing or depositing (but not giving them out anymore).
Then stores can handle them on a case by case basis if they want to or just say "sorry we're done with pennies".
Oh yeah, also send the mint a note telling them to stop producing pennies en masse.
I disagree, but that's just me apparently. It's not that I particularly liked pennies, but I definitely don't like companies rounding UP to the nearest nickel. And as for the pennies costing more to make than they're worth -- so what? Basically any government provided service or product costs taxpayer money. Also, change the penny to make it more cost effective?
Anyhow, what's done is done, and we're probably all poorer because of it. I've been poor -- it sucks but life goes on.
To be fair, they did increase the biodiversity of the reflecting pool
That's not true. It showed us everyone's true colors.
I don't want to disagree, but how about enabled the Charlie Kirk incident?
Nah. Had nothing directly to do with Trump. I say it's a wash.
But seriously, Trump voters need to think what that man has done to improve their lives in any way. I seriously can't think of a single thing.
They may still not say it out loud, but their first thought will be "he hurt those other people in various ways, so worth it to me."
Actual value for them... nope, can't think of anything.
Oh they do say it out loud...
And if people think this is just some outlier cherry-picked by the media - nope. I've been told by an inlaw conservative that maybe I did well under Biden or under Obama, but should not have - implication being - maybe Trump 2.0 will actively harm me, because that's what I deserve. Because I have a degree, because I'm liberal, because I don't vote for asshole idiots like Donvict, etc...
And that's not even getting into the kinds of conversations I've had with conservatives both IRL and online - they definitely wish harm on those that merely disagree with them, never mind people of different religions or skin colors.
They don't need to think at all, they get fed what they need to believe. Trump made America great and safe and wonderful. Everything bad happening is somehow Bidens fault. Or immigrants did it. Even if they get upset for some days, they keep crawling back to him. It's the worst toxic relationship ever.
Or Iran, communists, Chyna, antifa... Never the United States, superriche, corporate entities...
Case and point being them blaming the bad weather at the US 250 festival on democrats.
They can't even keep straight between "science is dumb and doesn't know anything," and "libs built a fucking weather control machine!"
Your enemy is both weak and strong at the same time bullshit, they fall for it every time.
My understanding is most science-denier conservatives think the experts are liars, not idiots. Y'know; all of the "You Know Who" anti-Jewish conspiracy theories.
Many people are sad, cruel, little monsters that are happy those people are being hurt.
It's really hard to change people like that so they're better. You gotta get them to see you as in-group, and slowly re-socialize them. Lot of work. Might not even succeed. But it's also apparently a whole bunch of crimes to round up the maga-hats and lock them in an underground vault somewhere.
I like the explanation that a lot of these people are people that peaked in high school. They are angry that they stayed in the same town, not bettering themselves and never really going anywhere.
And they want others to hurt. People they perceive as liberals because they did get a degree, did expand their minds, did better themselves, did travel, did spend time in bigger and better cities, and so on.
I didn't get to go to college since my mother's AIDS bankrupted our family, but I didn't and don't want to see other people hurt.
Am I a little bitter I couldn't afford mountains of debt to get a degree while watching many of my friends go off to college? Sure.
Am I sad I had to work at a younger age than my peers so we could afford to juggle medications and bills? Sure.
Has this trajectory seriously screwed me for a lifetime of poverty? Yes, definitely.
Do I want to see other people hurt? No.
Sorry to hear about your situation. Obviously, it's not everyone who has ever seen others on that trajectory then turns to dark patterns - I was referencing this guy and I think it's more about those that are unable to process their emotions about it and misplacing the blame...
I can see that. I also think a lot of these MAGA just benefit from the patriarchy and abuse in general,
Abusive Men Describe the Benefits of Violence - BWSS https://share.google/ZQBwC5VgCYheld0Xr
Source: Substack https://share.google/COSLwGxj3D2l6UM7i
I truly believe a lot of these MAGA are just entitled, but society brainwashed a lot of men to prioritize their own needs and having any emotional intelligence as being weak. If the only emotion these men are allowed by the patriarchy to feel is anger, then we will naturally produce a society of angry men.
i wonder what isps are only in red states, in the blue areas you get more than the OG 3 competitors. they likely have verizon, TWC, AT&T and xfinity mostly.
Fortunately I avoided the mistake of voting blue tho, bc Lemmy tankies told me the truth that bOtH sIdEs SaMe.
( /s )
Republicans just want to hurt people. Even if it means hurting themselves. They just need to own a liberal and shed tears.
Yet another day in Trump‘s world of “how can I make everyone’s life shittier? how can I HURT literally everyone on the planet for no good reason?”
Another day of republican philosophy in practice: cause pain just because
Anything to fuck over working class.
And the white ones w/o degrees will vote even harder for Republicans to "own the libs". Meanwhile, just sitting on their own balls, basically.
I didn’t get to go to college since my mother’s AIDS bankrupted our family, but I didn’t and don’t want to see other people hurt.
Am I a little bitter I couldn’t afford mountains of debt to get a degree while watching many of my friends go off to college? Sure.
Am I sad I had to work at a younger age than my peers so we could afford to juggle medications and bills? Sure.
Has this trajectory seriously screwed me for a lifetime of poverty? Yes, definitely.
Do I want to see other people hurt? No.
I'm not a nazi just because I wasn't able to get a degree
In the European Union all ISPs market their connections based on maximum speed. However, the law requires them to meet at least 90% of that maximum advertised speed throughout the entire year (might slightly vary between countries), with some room for error. If they don't - easy lawsuit.
Internet is also usually extremely cheap. In my country you can get it as cheap as $8/month, with very good (>=500Mb/s download) connections rarely exceeding $25 USD monthly. Hell, you can get an 8Gb/s download cable for just a little over $40/month.
Europe always forgetting about the shareholders. How's the c suite going to afford their third yacht and their fourth mansion charging those prices?
$8 ?
Same here. Romania
I get 500Mbps for about 10 euro
In any decent civilization, someone as evil and corrupt and stupid as Brendan Carr would be taken to a remote destination and beaten into a chunky soup
this is one that i directly appreciated. the transparent bottom-line pricing was refreshing.
ISPs routinely advertise prices much lower than those actually charged to consumers on their monthly bills.
I wonder if there is any other countries where you will not know how much you'll have to pay for internet until after you've signed a contract.
Everyone knows opaque markets work the best. Brilliant display of regulatory skill from the party of fiscal responsibility.
Wonder if my provider will appreciate me not paying any fees that weren't included in the listed price
How does Fox News spin this one then?
They don't really need to spin, they either talk about Democrats in a negative way, glaze Trump like he's their God, or they just don't cover it at all.
This one probably falls into the "just don't talk about it" category. If Reich wing media doesn't cover a story MAGA never finds out about it
They'll blame it on Biden or Obama if they need to.
Conservatives fucking blamed 9/11 on Obama before.
even more reason to stop using American services.
Where can I sign up for Canadian Internet in my US State?
by leaving, hope this helps :)
If every American who was being harmed by this admin moved to Canada you'd be amazed how quickly Canada would be come anti-immigrant.
just bolt like a coward instead of making your country better
Are all Canadians like you? How dreadful.
Biden Bad, so therefore anything Donvict does == doubleplusgood.
Don't talk to me about any facts, I don't want to hear 'em!
FUUUUCK I hate these "hologram" stock photos where the text isn't reversed. So I'm supposed to believe that the user is looking at a reversed image??
ISPs: we wanna charge a bunch of bullshit fees so we can lie to customers about what our prices are. Biden: Sure! But you'll have to come up with names for the fees. Trump: Sure!
This one of those things that looks awful because the current regime decided to stop whatever flimsy fig leaf the dems had insisted on when they did pretty much the same thing.
They were already doing it before the Biden requirements.
Source: I worked at a carrier and had to explain their bills to people daily.
The information disclosure was significantly different for consumers even though the bill didn't really change, they just had to actually breakdown the fees and surcharges, they couldn't hide it all blindly under "the government says we have to collect this".
Finally! As an consumer, I am tired of being informed and I'm glad the FCC agrees. I'll just bend over a liiiittle harder and they can take whey they want. /s
Maybe it's too naive to hope for that some ISPs would still list all their fees to have a competitive edge over those that don't?
That only works if the ISPs are in direct competition, which for the vast majority of the country, are not.
Most US markets are effectively duopolies or "triopolies" at most. But even then, that's really stretching it. Because while two or three ISPs cover a city or metro, the neighborhood one lives in really determines the carrier. This part of town might only get cable from Comcast. While another part of town only gets it from Cox. That's really simplifying it, as maybe a consumer also has (slower) bonded DSL in their area, plus there's also home 5G and now Starlink. Fiber (either FTTC or FTTH) has made good headway, but it's still not ubiquitous. Your house or apartment building might have fiber; the one next door doesn't.
So there's a teensy bit of competition. But not really.
Cellular service has seen some of that competition on being honest with fees, but that's because of MVNOs. But traditional non-wireless ISPs really don't have that competition.
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