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[–] 146 points 4 months ago (6 children)

The videos are never associated with a user's identity and are deleted after the verification process. Audio is never recorded.

I actually believe them. It's gonna start out this way. But in a year or two, they'll quietly slip in a provision stating they will hold on to the images for a short time for security purposes, then they will say that they will associate your image with your identity to make it more secure, then Google's AI will know everything about everyone (and sell the info to the highest bidder)

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  • [–] 79 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I believe them as well from a very literal perspective. The video will be deleted but the metadata that is created from the video will not.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    100% this. The fingerprint is what they use for reidentification.

    I've spoken to a number of companies in this space while searching for one that uses a ZKP and a user-held VC of the fingerprint vs the server storing it (for use with a Linux Foundation labs project). I ended up rolling my own using FOSS face models.

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  • [–] 35 points 4 months ago

    This will be like the proof of age face scans. Yes, the VIDEO is deleted, but the unique biometric code describing your face sure as hell won't be deleted. Focusing on deleting the video has got to be a deliberate distraction

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  • [–] 32 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    It should be considered a universal law of corporate behavior: any information that has theoretical value will eventually be sold.

    Even if current management has no intention of exploiting it, they’ll be replaced by the board, or the division and its data will be spun off and sold for its IP—that’s just corporate nature (i.e., the purpose of a system is what it does).

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  • That’s just v1. At some point they’ll realize that bots can deepfake a human waving and they’re going to want to truly verify it’s you by verifying the position of moles on your body… Then they’ll have to save your data… to secure your account!

    Soon they’ll realize to get good mole data they’ll need you to show more skin, as some people don’t have much on their face and their clothing could be hiding those juicy datapoints.

    That’s when v2 hits. Flash google your titties to secure your account, don’t worry it’s super secure and we never share your titties with law enforcement agencies unless it’s required by law!

    You’ll be walking through your local library because tech has gone to far and you need to unplug but as you walk by the rows of shared computers it’ll all be old people flashing their titties at the screen to continue watching ads on YouTube.

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  • [–] 96 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Calling it: In the future we will learn that they have been using it to gather face recognition data and have been using it to track their users in the real world by partnering with the likes of Flock.

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  • [–] 89 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    I will not do this. Whatever services require this i will not use.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    If I have to do this to log into my email one last time as I'm migrating out, I will write off all emails there as lost. If my phone makes me do it to unlock it, I will go out and by an iPhone on the spot. That makes me want to puke typing that out, because I hate iPhones, but I'll do it.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Shit what am I gonna do about email

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I signed up for tuta, but have yet to actually migrate. I've been on Gmail for over 20 years, so it's tough to get everything moved over as far as having used that for accounts.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Move existing messages from gmail account to new one, set up a forwarding rule from gmail to your new address for everything, change accounts as they show up. Maybe a bit longer route, but far easier to swallow since you don't need to go trough all the things in one go nor worry if you've missed something.

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  • [–] 71 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Google can verify I'm a human by not using Google.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I would love to not have YT in every corner of the internet though. I wonder how developers of Youtube forks will deal with this?

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    You need another YouTube. Free for anyone to post, the same volume, the same storage. Nebula is elite and paid. You and I can’t post on it. The others I’ve seen contain a handful of conspiracy theorists and Linux people.

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  • [–] 32 points 4 months ago

    The only hand gesture I'm giving Google is:

    🖕

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  • [–] 32 points 4 months ago

    The fuck it will

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  • Do Google employees actually do anything other than sit around thinking of ways to make things worse? In the last few years we've had web environment integrity (thankfully that one seems to have been dropped), gutting the AOSP to the point where it's practically unusable on its own, Android developer verification, play integrity, QR code captchas and now this

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    It says in the docs:

    "## Accessibility

    For users with accessibility needs who cannot use hand gestures to complete the challenge, reCAPTCHA continues to provide visual and audio challenges, and develop more accessible and secure alternatives."

    So it seems you can just do a different task if you don't want to do the hand thing anyway.

    Edit: obligatory F google still of course.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Guess I'm not a human anymore

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Further reason to avoid google's shit like the fuckin plague.

    The videos are never associated with a user’s identity and are deleted after the verification process. Audio is never recorded.

    My fat fucking ass do any of this. Google is just as data hungry as everyone else, they will absolutely save it, and feed it to their AI to enhance their ability to generate realistic people.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Exactly. In a few years, there will be some breach, and it will come out that Google "accidentally" saved everything, and they are shocked and appalled that the gosh darn AI that did it.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Exactly. Its what these companies do every time.

    and there will be no punishment for it, because people are too lazy and stupid to stop using google, and government is to feckless and useless to properly hold megacorps accountable.

    Bet they'll be "punished" by a 5 million dollar fine (which is like, couch money to google, and would probably be 0.005% of the money they made from doing it)

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago

    The fuck it will

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    I don't have a child, but if I a did have one, and they walked naked in front of the webcam, could I go after Google for CP?

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Iirc child nudity isn't enough for something to be considered porn. It has to be gratuitous. Not sure if that is the same for transmitting online or not.

    It's fakin weird by today's standards though and is probably handled very differently from one place to another

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Child nudity, even if its medically necessary, is 100% enough for google to delete everything you have with them and to call the police on you, labeling you a pedophile.

    Because its already happened

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    Perhaps I didn't remember correctly. I'm curious how movies have gotten away with it

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Movies arent typically made by google.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    I don't follow where you are going with this. The premise is Google recording images and having a naked child in them, which is no different than named children appearing in movies without it being CP... Somehow.

    And what your response to my comment doesn't seem to address or explain is why those movies got to be allowed when they have naked children in them. At least it's not obvious

    So what is it that makes recording naked kids permissible and what doesn't.

    Google doesn't make movies doesn't answer or explain anything that I can figure out

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Are webcams that ubiquitous nowadays? My monitors never had one, and I could never be arsed to buy an external one, but perhaps I'm the weird outlier here.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago

    Think I'll finish migrating away from google this weekend.

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  • Jokes on them. I run Linux on a 2017 MacBook Air and the camera doesn't work

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago

    "Rest assured, the video is TOTALLY deleted, bro... but we will take about 120 still screenshots per second as a backup."

    "Oh weird, if you look at these screenshots real fast it's almost like they move, haha, fun!!"

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    People without hands suddenly non human

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    The fuck it will.

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    The fuck they will

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago

    What Webcam?

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago

    Hahahahahaha nope.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Do they have any idea the sheer volume of penis helicopters they are going to record by doing this?

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    For users with accessibility needs who cannot use hand gestures to complete the challenge, reCAPTCHA continues to provide visual and audio challenges, and develop more accessible and secure alternatives.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    Don’t have one.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    If they implement this for Gmail, it will be the reason I finally leave Gmail. That will be a PIA, though.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Whenever I need to send a selfie picture for whatever fucked up reason, I always give them a photo of my middle finger

    Fuck these websites, fuck you Google

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    A bit hard given the lack of webcam.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    I feel like something like yubikey that requires physical touch to the device would also fulfill this?

    I don't trust that these photos and videos won't be used against us in some way later like advertising or tracking.

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  • No they won't. If they try, I will leave the website.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    No, they won't. They might try, mind you, but that's not happening. I'll sooner adapt to a piece of tape at the top of my screen than to this.

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  • So we click the things that say can not do challenge and we’ll pick the alternatives, no?

    "Accessibility

    For users with accessibility needs who cannot use hand gestures to complete the challenge, reCAPTCHA continues to provide visual and audio challenges, and develop more accessible and secure alternatives."

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I need that goatse image to show them when they ask. Maybe I can get Gemini it animate some of the fingers moving.

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    Why wait? We can block their headquarters and wave a hand (and finger) now...

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    I'll flip bird

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    I feel like I see dire warnings like this every day, and then it never happens

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