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[–] 135 points 4 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 102 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Don't have a webcam on my desktop (main PC) and I have no intention of getting one.

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  • [–] 44 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    Don't worry, it will ask you to scan a QR code to complete the verification on your phone.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I always buy the cheapest phone and usually they dont have built in qr code scanner. My current phone doesnt. And no, im not downloading some shitty feature-stuffed adware app just to scan qr codes

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago*

    Slightly off topic, but if you need a QR code scanner there are really good open source ones available on F-Droid. Such is SecScanQR which I have been using for quite a while.

    If you need a utility app chances are an open source one already exists. Avoid crapware from the Play Store.

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  • [–] 91 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Absolutely not. Go fuck yourselves. There's not a person in the world who I would do this for.

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  • [–] 53 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    It can try, but I'm not doing that. I will stop using everything that requires it.

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  • [–] 52 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yep. If the web requires ID to do anything I will only use it for banking and shit I already give my ID to. For everything else I'll just pirate, or use tor/I2P until they lock me up.

    All these fascist criminal pedophiles that want to control us can suck a big fat bag of dicks.

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  • [–] 35 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    For reasons like this, my webcam is only plugged in when I actively need it.

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  • [–] 64 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    So what's stopping me from using OBS as a virtual camera and feeding it a stream of stock footage of someone waving their hand?

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  • [–] 27 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Privacy nightmare aside, is it just me or does this sound a lot less secure than the find the bus bullshit they do now? Seems like it would be much easier for a bot to generate a realistic looking hand wave than interpret increasingly obscure photo puzzles.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Jokes on them, I have no webcam.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago* (16 children)

    degoogle for privacy

    still use AI chatbot

    Bruh

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    I generally favor local LLM usage, but I will sometimes use Kagi's assistant tools. I trust them to throw out my data a fuckton more than I do Google.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

    A locally run LLM is a different story, one that I'm slightly more open to, but "trusting" any corp is how we got here. To me degoogling isn't just about moving away from Google but about removing myself from any nonessential service and limiting the data I share with essential services.

    I also just plain don't know what I'd use any LLM for.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I also just plain don’t know what I’d use any LLM for.

    PewDiePie has been on a tear lately with recommending everybody switch to Linux and recently experimenting with LLMs. He put out a legit good local LLM project that showcases the different kinds of things you can do with a model.

    My biggest LLM use cases have been:

    • A replacement for search, since you typically need multiple searches and multiple sources to get the information you need
    • Code generation, because it's so good at producing entire fully-featured utilities or just let it spin away at implementing some new functionality
    • Helping me out with some random Linux error or difficulty, because support forums are fucking garbage
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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    I think needing multiple searches and sources is a good thing, personally. Yes it takes more time and effort but it reinforces research skills. Performing the search yourself provides an opportunity to critically evaluate the information you're finding and, if applicable, take into account any bias a source may have.

    Can't comment on code generation.

    I suppose it depends on the Linux difficulty but reading through documentation and ArchWiki typically gets me enough info to make a more informed/refined search. You're also likely to stumble across information you'll want to know rather than just find an answer to the question you're asking.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Your responses are the equivalent of "I don't use the internet, because nothing beats the experience of walking to your library and looking through the research material yourself".

    Sure, I can do all of those things. But, sometimes I don't want to spend hours going through the searches, bang my head against the wall with useless tech forums, and get frustrated with shifting through the results. The LLM can get it done in a minute or two, and I can still ask follow-up questions if I don't trust anything, or want clarification.

    And yes, like Wikipedia, I still review the sources and review the code.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    I think such an all-or-nothing mindset is exactly why people are staying on megacorp services. Besides, Mistral is much more transparent about its data collection, unlike Google, which makes you disable all chat history if you want to prevent training on your inputs.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    All-or-nothing mindset people usually do not comment because they want to be helpful. They are a nuisance.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

    What is your use case for LLMs?

    My mindset is all-or-nothing because I have yet to find a use for LLMs. Enlighten me, please.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    AI chats are pretty good for finding leads on unknown unknowns when researching something new. Maybe it's just because of how much worse search engines are now but theyre also pretty good for troubleshooting when you don't have good keywords to narrow down the search effectively.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago

    Uh yeah, it most certainly will not.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    So can I just use the OBS virtual camera with a video of somebody waving

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Waving is something robots already could in the 80s.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    Can the AI identify which finger I'm waving too?

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    Web cam? I don't have one on my computer, what now?

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Google can turn on my webcam all it wants. They can't see through the sticky tape anyways.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    I still wouldn't want google capturing my body and my home even through the filter of sticky tape. even if it's pitch black, I can't rule out that they're not fingerprinting whatever they can find that's unique about my camera's sensor.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    If I have to do face verification at some point I am using a pic of Harold. I am almost 70.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Saying “WILL” is clickbait.

    As many have pointed out, they can’t force this.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    They can definetly use signals like VPN usage, not allowing third-party cookies and whatever else to force this verification mode if they want to. They may not be doing it right now but nothing prevents them.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Me not using their garbage internet does indeed stop them from doing it to me.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    It's reCAPTCHA. What "their garbage internet" are you referring to? The singular internet, the one you're on right now? reCAPTCHA is used on tons of websites. It used to be useful until Google turned it into a machine learning training tool rather than a bot filtering tool.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    And it says "When the hand gesture feature is enabled, reCAPTCHA collects the following data:".
    When it gets forced, we talk again.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Doesn't AI work great for this, what with those AIs that turn Reddit mods into anime cosplayer girls?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    they gunna see my nuts

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Well, not me.

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago

    I have a Mac, so it has things like WiFi and Bluetooth that most Wintel boxes don’t tend to have. (I used to build PCs. I know those motherboards exist, and what it costs over base to get those features. So I know they exist and why they’re not common.) What it does not have is a camera. My MacBook has one, but any site that wants to use it needs to ask permission first. When I say no, it does not see the camera. It’s not saying “I see camera, can I use it” it’s asking “can I use camera?” An answer of no returns the message “no camera.”

    I suspect it’s the same with all platforms. Meaning anyone who wants this can use it and the rest of us will just default to identifying sidewalks to train the cars.

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    [+] -14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (13 children)

    "Google has added Hand gesture verification functionality to reCAPTCHA"

    This title is clickbait, if we want Lemmy to be a competitor to Reddit we need to be better moderated than they are, not worse. Please report this post and OP to your instance admins.

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  • [–] 24 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Imagine actually believing that they don't retain footage. Were you born yesterday?

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  • [+] -13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

    Report this comment too. We can't let Lemmy get overrun with clickbait spam or it will get worse here than reddit.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Don't worry!! They said it again in the article OP posted, so we know we have nothing to worry about:

    The videos are never associated with a user's identity and are deleted after the verification process. Audio is never recorded.

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  • [+] -8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Sounds like one of these things that people are scared is going to happen but will never actually happen

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago

    Chinese corporations and government have been doing this shit for years. Trying to use alipay on a trip to China was a dystopian nightmare lol. USA has only just started to catch up to them in terms of digital surveillance. This stuff and things like "Flock" that Americans are freaking out about right now are a completely normal fact of life over there.

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