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[–] 105 points 5 months ago (10 children)

This sucks. I was reading how about fraudsters buy counterstrike items to launder money and it's crazy. They must have found steam cards are a huge part of the operation too.

I just want an alternative to the whole VISA/Mastercard BS and this one was the easiest.

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  • [–] [S] 59 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    From what I can tell from Kitboga videos, all retail gift cards are a lucrative way to launder proceeds from scams. Valve was probably just more tired of dealing with it.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I actually think this might also potentially have something to do with the lawsuit regarding potential gambling on the platform.

    Because children absolutely could buy gift cards and use them to open loot boxes etc. Not positive but just throwing that out there.

    I absolutely could be completely wrong about this.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    This kinda tracks. One time someone I knew bought a series of games on Steam at once, and his bank blocked them. In calling them, he learned that (in addition to some other circumstantial clue) their pattern recognition picks up on game purchases, since that's an excellent target for someone who just stole a credit card. Scammers can often resell the games in some way, through some anonymity.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago

    It's a classic case of bad actors ruining a great convenience for regular consumers. Physical gift cards were the perfect cash to digital bridge for privacy conscious users and people without traditional bank accounts. Unfortunately, the scale of refund fraud and elder scams involving these cards has gotten so massive that tech companies are realizing the retail footprint just isn't worth the liability anymore.

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  • [–] 32 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    I worked on a retail store for a time, it was sad that a lot of old people spent a lot on money on gift cards, specially Steam and Apple gift cards because they didn't even knew what they were purchasing, and 7/10 times when you warned them about a scam they tell you to eat shit, but it was funny because it was like: An famous singer is contacting me, just to tell me that if I give them a $100 gift card they will send me $100.000.000

    And there were some more extreme cases of old people who lived alone and didn't know much about technology, that it was like a rolplay but on real life and the currency to keep rolplaying was the gift cards.

    And another thing is that the old (due to the scammers) were the most unbearable people in the world, because the scammers didn't ask, they demanded gift cards, and they were always asking for $100 gc. If the elderly people couldn't get them, they threatened to stop talking to them, so we had to deal with unbearable old people constantly.

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago

    When I was a kid physical gift cards where the only way I could pay for online games since my nobody at home had a credit card that accepts international transactions.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Well that sucks, no more paying in cash for physical cards.

    Back when I used to work retail all gift cards were inside the registers only allowed to be activated once the registers opened.

    This meant it was less likely for someone to either swap gift cards for counterfeit ones, or take pictures of all the cards waiting for someone to activate them and drain the balance.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    to either swap gift cards for counterfeit ones

    That would show an error on the checkout

    or take pictures of all the cards waiting for someone to activate them and drain the balance.

    Nowadays they are alls scratch-offs. That was a different time back then

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago

    DO NOT REDEEM!!!

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    That's probably a big deal in Asia. I get the impression banking is not so smooth an experience out there (most specifically in Japan), and instead most people still work directly with cash; so any gacha game or online store will very much rely on convenience stores to stock their cards.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago*

    It's not that banking is difficult in Japan (unless you're a foreigner), it's just culturally a cash-centric economy. There's a whole etiquette about placing your money on a specific plate, making sure the bills are face-side up, paying as close to exact change as possible, etc.

    Japanese 7-11's all have an ATM that will accept American debit cards and allow you to withdraw Yen, even handling the conversion fee for you. Cash cards with RFID chips like Suica make subway/train fare super fast and simple. It's not for lack of technology, for sure.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    I was looking for Sream gift cards as birthday presents for some friends 2 months or so ago. No wonder I couldn't find them.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago*

    Great the discounts you get on them at Costco just vanished now, I guess. That sucks.

    And it gives those card companies more ability to screw them like they did before.

    This was honestly not a very wise decision.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    Shit, there goes another alternative to my VISA card T-T

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    Ugh I loved getting these as gifts from non-gamer family. A Visa/MC gift card I'll just spend on necessary things but a Steam gift card was for games.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Wait that’s still a thing? I haven’t been able to find one in years

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    oh, ffs. well, piracy it is then.

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    [–] 15 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Probably for the best. I spoke to a cashier at a local game store once, she was explaining how terrible it was to see so many people coming in who were obviously being scammed but wouldn’t listen to the advice from the cashier. They preferred it when they didn’t have any to sell.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    Yeah when I worked at Apple I got so sick of trying to explain to people that the American IRS are not going to sue them for $100,000 if they don't give them some Apple gift cards.

    I also at the Apple gift cards were especially funny because they were for such low denominations

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    Damn! How am i going to pay off the FBI for my pirated anime now?

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    But isn't it literally less effort for someone to buy a digital gift card and hand over the card details to a scammer? Or am I missing something?

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago*

    I'm just imagining the scammers losing their minds trying to get my parents to install steam so they can buy gift cards.

    If my mother is not receiving a constant stream of instruction she'll get bored and start clicking on random buttons. There's a reason that all my text messages for her are full of random emojis and gifs that she's accidentally added

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    Digital makes it much easier for steam to track. They can more easily identify steam accounts and emails that are part of scam networks. They have options like not allowing sales to be delivered to scammer@scam.com, or reverting transactions they believe are scams within 24 hours.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    So now there's no way to buy Steam credit without a card?

    It's cool trying to stop scammers, but I feel like this move could hurt privacy.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago

    There are digital payment methods that don't require a card.

    I remember when I was a child there was "paysafe". Where you paid to a physical machine and get a code to spend online. I imagine it still exists.

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