Mormon leaders, military veterans and elected officials reacted with anger to a new Department of Defense policy that does not consider The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to be a Christian religion as part of a wider effort to cut down the U.S. military’s list of recognized faiths.

“The Pentagon’s decision to list The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints apart from other Christian faiths is wrong and needs to be corrected,” Republican Rep. Mike Kennedy, of heavily Mormon Utah, wrote on X on Sunday.

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[–] 119 points 5 months ago (44 children)

Uh ohhh, the inner circle is shrinking

The people who thought they'd be in the 'in group' once again find themselves in the 'out group' who could have possibly seen this coming?

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    If Hegsworth wasn't drunk he could have played an Uno reverse and asked the Mormon's who gets in their heaven.

    But them fracturing early is a huge boon to the rest of us. The Christian right has sunk a lot of time, efforts, and their daughters into converting our military officers, especially in the Air Force. Not to mention how they go after young politicians desperate for funding.

    But trump is co-opting their plans and forcing them early.

    If they had another decade or two, they'd likely have their faithful in full control of our government and military, then we wouldn't even have noticed a coup. They'd have just denied it was happening and pretended it was coincidence.

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  • [–] -5 points 5 months ago (39 children)

    me when dealing with electoralist who thought their ‘in-party’ will once implement issue X find themselves in the ‘out-party’ who could have possibly seen electoralism coming?
    enemy of ‘perfection’ propaganda

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (38 children)

    I'm not sure I'm understanding what you're hinting at with this line

    me when dealing with...

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  • [–] -5 points 5 months ago (37 children)

    same thing ThePyroPython replied to you. A Democrat or Republican, the in-party will always find a way to outstrip your rights every ballot. You're nothing but a vote for their seats in office.

    Unless, I am wrong, and I am speaking to a Senator.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (36 children)

    What reaction were you hoping from this comment?

    Unless, I am wrong, and I am speaking to a Senator.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    His point is "both sides" even though it's very clearly bullshit here.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Everything about the electoral college is bullshit.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] -3 points 5 months ago (29 children)

    Reaction? Are we both not progressives?
    Are you in power? ’Cause I empower people. Do you?

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (28 children)

    Empower? You really lost me here

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    You might have to explain that a little more...

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (25 children)

    Of how Mike Kennedy & Pete Hegseth have more power than you and a religion?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (24 children)

    No-no-no, you mentioned you have power? I'd like to hear a bit more about this power?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (23 children)

    Have you ever helped neighbors, disabled, the homeless?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (22 children)

    Ah yes, this is the power you speak of? Please tell me more about your power?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (21 children)

    Yes. Do you not empower people?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (20 children)

    Do you? I'm so interested in your power? Please tell me more?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (19 children)

    I do. What more do you need to know? If you see a need, do you not intersect?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (18 children)

    Intersect what? I'm so curious?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (17 children)

    Intersect the homeless, the disabled, my community?

    I am starting to feel like you wanted Pete to recategorize those that voted for him, thus consequently whatever you envisioned Kamala would assign, wouldn't do the same to you, the out-party.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (16 children)

    I'm sorry, kinda confused by this thought, can you explain more?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (15 children)

    How are you confused if you're not Pete Hegseth & Mike Kennedy? Do you hold any power?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (14 children)

    Oh back to the power! Yes, explain more about your power!

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (13 children)

    I hold the power to affect those around me, and the people I solidarity with.

    Electoralists yield their power to populists like Pete, Trump, Kamala, and Biden.

    What kind of power do you party with?

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    About how you keep refusing to answer basic questions, thus, you don't see yourself as the outparty, regardless of your vote?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (10 children)

    Huh, I'm sorry you feel that way. But please tell me more about the intersect you speak of??

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (9 children)

    Sure.

    But do something impactful than pretend you're more empowered than the Nazis your inparty elected. Otherwise, continue performing.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (8 children)

    Wait, wait ,wait, you said you were empowered? Now you say you're more empowered than those others you mentioned?? Now I'm very confused, you might need to explain this a bit further.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (7 children)

    Yes, because I refuse to empower populists.
    Americans simply can't grasp the idea of empowering neighbors and overthrowing populists. The LDS is learning the hardway what populism does, and you’re not intersecting with them, and empowering them to take action against the populists that betrayed an issue they voted for.

    You're behaving like an outparty to your inparty constituents. Time to inparty your neighbors.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (6 children)

    Huh, I'm sorry you feel that way, please tell me more?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah, you tell 'em! Louder for those in the back!

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Wrong comment🤭!
    Go empower electors!
    Your college needs it!

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Please tell me more about this college?

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  • [–] 75 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    The wild thing is that they were always going to turn on the Mormons. The evangelicals fucking hate the LDS Church, and they've been pretty candid about that for a long time. But the Mormons so badly wanted to be in the conservative Christian gang they convinced themselves they would always be accepted.

    The evangelicals treated the Mormons like useful idiots. Now they think they have no use for them. So they've become just idiots.

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  • [–] 34 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    This right here is the shit I've been waiting for. They'll turn on Catholics soon enough and I'm shocked Jehovah's Witnesses exist in the list at all since there's literally no members allowed to do anything in the military not even non-combat. Evangelicals aren't even a homogenous group in and of themselves, consisting of the likes of Baptists and Pentecostals who disagree strongly about... certain things.

    They all used to piss and bitch and fight each other all the time. Seems they realized they were all headed for the dustbin of history recently, but I knew it couldn't last forever...

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Exactly. Catholics will be next. Then Orthodox and Coptic church members, and yeah the JWs. Oh, and the liberal Lutherans and Episcopalians too.

    And then the evangelicals will start cannibalizing each other. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if some of them unify into a single church that worships Trump as a prophet (profit? Haha), and that group viciously takes down any other evangelicals still standing.

    Hopefully things don't get to that point.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago*

    consisting of the likes of Baptists and Pentecostals who disagree strongly about… certain things.

    My great grandmother was part of a Pentacostal church that split in half over a single bible verse. But they were both still speaking in tongue after the split.

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    Have the day you voted for!

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  • [–] 41 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    good thing they scammed that dying man out of his legos

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  • [–] 36 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    As long as they list the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, I'm good. The Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912 will of course burn in Hades forever.

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    As the outcast in a large family of Mormon Trump followers, I love this news. It's almost worth reaching out to those I cut off to ask them how happy they remain with their votes.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    That’s 4 electoral votes in play right there!!

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  • [–] 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Four electoral votes that'll vote Republican no matter what.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I don't know if you understand Mormon culture or not. They spent decades of lobbying and advertising to be counted as Christians in the first place. Fucking with the church holds more sway to them than anything else. The church being shunned like this means the church will have to send a message and they own all of the politicians outright.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    They’re turning on each other now.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago

    .. as you sow, so shall you reap ..

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    If you care about people like Hegseth counting you as a Christian, I have good news and bad news for you.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    LDS will ruin your day if you piss them off.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Unless I miss judging them I doubt they're going to fuck up the entire federal government.

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    Am I reading correct that they spent only a couple of grand? That isn't a lot.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Yep you’re right. Supposedly the LDS church doesn’t donate to political campaigns (per Google). Though I find it difficult to believe they don’t use their massive fortune to influence elections.

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  • There aren't that many of them and I don't believe the influence is that big outside of where they live.

    I mean, yeah, the government loves hiring them. But that's because they don't have any of the traditional vices. They don't get drunk cuz they don't.....

    But I don't think they're ending the fed anytime soon.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    ... I doubt they’re going to fuck up the entire federal government.

    If the plan is for the LDS church to take over rescue America after the entire Federal government falters, what's a little accelerationism between friends?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    Are they strangely powerful outside of their normal territory? There's like 30k of them according to a google search.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I don't know how many LDS folk are explicit White Horsers.

    My understanding is the average Mormon has a highly developed interest in self-sufficiency and preparedness.* So even if the normie LDS aren't White Horsers their preparedness would be useful to White Horsers during the chaos of any theocratic transition.


    • which I respect generally, although I am not a fan of the New Mormon Overlords prophecy stuff
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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    Suck it, Prop 8 shitheads

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Getting a taste of being excluded are we?

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Let them fight.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    "Hey, my Invisible Sky Friend deserves to be in the Cool Invisible Sky Friend club like all the other Invisible Sky Friends!"

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Something something Legos

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    It is wrong what whisky pete did. Mormons are exactly the same cult as all other christians.

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