EDIT NOTICE: I accidentally wrote "A1 Mini" in the meme instead of just "A1" out of habit. There's no proof for the Mini to also be affected yet. My bad, sorry. It's the A1 that might burn your house down.

3-Panel meme. First: Guy coming through the door with a new 3D printer in hand, happily announcing "I bought the 3D printer I saw on Youtube!". Second: Same shot but his happy face turned upside down in shock. Third: Shit of the whole room with him still in the doorframe. It's a mess, shit is on fire, someone is reanimated on the right. Caption: "Bambu Lab Breaking the Law", "A1 Mini going up in flames" and "Community up in arms".

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[–] 36 points 5 months ago (12 children)

I’m in the corner with my Ender 3 that barely works and is a pain in the ass but hasn’t had a recent controversy because it’s old.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    I love/hate my fucking Ender 3. I love it cause I got it for free and it's my first printer. But boy have I just wanted to take a hammer to it at times. Though, I can use any software I want, no internet connection, and it's been forcing me to actually understand how that dang printer works. And fuck, when I'm ready to go down that rabbit hole, I can mod it out. I can't beat that flexibility.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    You might want to try those total conversion projects. There are a few that take parts from one or two Ender 3 and turn the machine into a modern CoreXY machine.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    You shouldn't give a fuck of your choice of 3D printer's manufacturer is controversial.

    HP and Dell suck a fat one, but I don't give it a moments thought when I'm printing out hollow Earth leaflets to hand out at the mall food court.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago

    I'm in the other corner with a P1S still on firmware 1.7 putting like 16 hours of print on it a day (mainly my wife printing decoration and trinkets). It's just th internet finding a new rage bait. The printers are fine, the company is dumb for generating controversy (maybe negligent for the fires). This too shall pass.

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  • [–] 62 points 5 months ago (8 children)
  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    I'm pretty excited about blowing all my money on INDX soon :-)

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I reaalllly want to upgrade my MK4s but the prices are still fucked by tariffs. That INDX system looks amazing.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Soon? You don't have your order in already?

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    It's the A1 going to flame. Not the mini. Or I missed something ?

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Bambu_Lab_A1_NTC_thermistor_fire_and_meltdown_hazard

    both I think?

    But it seems to only affect low voltage grid countries if I understand it correctly

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  • [–] -4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I read high voltage has it worse, because the ac adapter circuit has a lot more work to do, so it runs hotter.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    V * A = W

    The device operates at a certain wattage. If the voltage is lower, you need more amps to reach the same watt. Amps is what makes conductors hot.

    Example:

    200V * 1A = 200W

    100V * 2A = 200W


    To quote the link above that you didn't read so I had to re-read to make sure I'm right:

    The issue stems from the difference in standardized voltages between regions, with the US running on 120 volts, compared to China's 220 volts (where bambu is based). This requires almost twice the current for the same total power draw in the US compared to most other regions, contributing to higher temperatures being reached due to Ohm's law.


    And about the ac adapter - it's not the cause of the burning issues. And if they specc it for china's 220V, it should work fine in most of europe.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    So it's bambu fault for not thinking about those countries that want to do things differently from the rest of the world

    (Most of the world operate between 220-240v, the most notable exceptions are north america, the most north part of south america, Japan and i think israel)

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (14 children)

    Ok, how am I to enter the 3d printing

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  • [–] [S] 30 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    Avoid

    • BambuLab (the usual backstabbing of big corpos)
    • Creality (recently went IPO and strongly pivoted towards AI)
    • FlashForge (also apparently AI stuff)
    • Anycubic (cheap shit)

    Recommend

    • Sovol (especially for tinkerers, but bad customer support)
    • Snapmaker U1 (good price / performance)
    • Prusa (The best with a backbone and EU-based, but pricy af because of it)
    • Qidi Tech (Rather affordable, not too bad apparently)

    These are my personal opinions and what I heard over the years.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I agree with your take on all of them except Anycubic, if you can get them for cheap. By that I don't mean the forever sale on their website. I started with a used anycubic that I got for less than $100.00 USD. While it does suck it let me see if I actually wanted to spend more money on this hobby or not. I'm already looking into getting a Prusa someday but for now it's enough. So there is a spot for Anycubic, it's entry level for printing curious.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Agree 100%. My first printer was a cheap Kobra 2. I had a lot of problems with it and I'm not sure if it's because of the printer or because I was changing settings without knowing what I was doing.

    At any rate, I wanted something better and didn't want anycubic, but Kobra 3 with AMS was only $299 at the time so I got one. It worked great. I started on some large printing projects and ended up getting a second one for $299 to spread the workload around.

    I have about 600 hours on both and they've both been great. I have a Snapmaker U1 but I'm going to keep using the Kobra 3s for basic prints as long as they last.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children)

    Qidi had fire issues too IIRC

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child)

    AFAIK they did have some issues on the first of their 3rd gen printers, and only for 110VAC models, 230VAC models were unaffected. And they recognized the issue when it was discovered, fixed it, and shipped replacement parts for affected customers.

    The current printers you can buy from them are their 4th gen, haven't heard anything like that for these. They're technically open source, but they make their own weird forked klipper version instead of just using vanilla klipper.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Depends on what you want, and how much you can afford. Personally I hate the idea of my printer connecting to the internet, so I'm still very happy with the Creality CR-10 that I bought 7 years ago. You can buy very similar models new for like $300. Less if you're willing to settle for less build volume, and even less if you're willing to buy used off of Craigslist or similar online marketplaces

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Breakin the law
    Breakin the law
    Breakin the law

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Not as much relentless marketing as it was just the cheapest and easiest enter to 3D printing for me TwT

    Too bad I already used it and it's outside return time anyways

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 5 months ago

    Just be safe, alright? There should be info out there if it's an A1 about removing the dangerous part (seems to be optional). And make sure to take those devices offline via LAN-mode and blocking their internet access in the router.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    I just received the A1 for a birthday gift. I’m hoping it was manufactured after Q3 2025:

    Bambu Lab stated: After reviewing field data, we determined the benefits of NTC-based inrush protection were outweighed by potential downsides under rare surge conditions. As a result, we implemented a design change in Q3 2025 to remove the PTC from the circuit.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Fuck, I have one from 2024 that's been sitting in a box until I had the time to get into 3d printing (like yours, it was a gift). Guess I need to buy a fire fighting ball thing for it when I finally get it set up.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Man, with this news you may wanna sell it and buy another model/brand before getting into it.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    This has such Anet A8 vibes.

    ...Although that machine basically had to be rebuilt to be usable and not a fire hazard from the start lol.

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    As much as I'm distressed to see the current situation with Bambu Lab I wouldn't consider it "falling for relentless marketing". They are/were genuinely ahead of the curve.

    I've owned 3 different 3D printers before my P1S in the nearly decade I've been 3D printing (I got my first in 2017) and Bambu was the first to actually deliver on being "plug and play" when compared to the competition.

    I'm hopeful the situation when my P1S kicks the bucket has changed (it may already have but I'm not in the market so I haven't checked). But for now I'm just not updating the firmware.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Both of my Qidi machines have been plug in, load filament, and print. My current X-Max 3 also provided a rather polished out of the box experience with an on-screen guide and everything. I would much rather have a Qidi than any Bambu machine at this point.

    I'm a little disappointed that they've apparently recently abandoned their homegrown fork of Prusa Slicer in favor of a home grown fork of Bambu's slicer, but here's hoping Bambu's current litigious fuckery will cause them to rethink that strategy. Still, their stuff is open source enough that there's nothing stopping me from using any other slicer with it if I felt like it. Or, indeed, any other firmware.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Unfortunately they've discontinued the xmax 3, and the newer ones are slightly less open. I would have liked to get a second xmax 3, i got mine for €500 on sale it's been an amazing deal, absolutely insane value for money.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    That's a little hopeful to hear. When I was researching my purchase I had considered a Qidi machine but the reviews were inconsistent at the time. This was back early '24 though. I think my Microcenter warranty on the P1S is running out soon.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Prusa or nothing. Just s shame they are so damn expensive, and refuse to make a Prusa Mini v.2

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I'm actually really happy with my Snapmaker U. Not only has it been rock steady at printing and quality, they actually open sourced both their firmware and slicer. And flashing a custom firmware is as easy as copying it to a USB drive and plugging it in

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Just bought a used, but very well calibrated MK3S last month as my first foray into 3D printing. I love this thing so far.

    And it doesn't know my wifi network or password. I save files to an SD card, plug that into the printer, and print. No apps, no printer connecting to the internet to verify registration, no sending my files somewhere outside the home when printing.

    Might run it through a MK3.5 hardware upgrade in not too long, which is another cool thing they do: give you an upgrade path for older models (like mine) to use newer equipment from newer models.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    Right?! A Mini+ refresh that pushes down the costs without sacrificing performance (very much doable I think, they'd have basically zero R&D cost for that) to hit the 249€ mark would most likely sell like hot cakes, simply because it's both rather affordable and Prusa! Especially right now.

    I do hope they work on something. The fact the website apparently only offers the Mini+ Enclosure Bundle by now might indicate they're emptying shelves, though they'll never sell those off at that ridiculous price (500€ semi-assembled).

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    For real! I love my Prusa Mini so much. I mostly do electronics, and the print volume is perfect for the small enclosures I need to print for that.

    But after having played around with the MK4S, I really do miss a lot of the new features. I met Josef Prusa at Open Sauce last year, and tried my best to convince him that they need to do a v2.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    The mini too? Is that real?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Isn't this the Fukona Shoujo machine?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    I guess I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, I wouldn't by it again (or anything from the company), but at the time (just before the company went completely haywire) the A1 was the right machine ("just works" with decent print quality) at the right price (on sale + discount) that got me into 3D printing ... so, I "fell" for the YT marketing for sure, but I don't regret it one second ... now that I know that it's a both use- and joyful technology for me I would gladly pay for a Prusa but at the time I wouldn't have ... and I would have missed out for sure ... learned 3D modeling, manufacturing, design, skills that I wouldn't want to miss.

    I guess after well over 1000h of printing I don't have to expect it to go up in flames, either ...

    For completeness I should also say that I never updated the firmware and transfer data using the SD card exclusively, it's not connected to any network ... but that was my expectation to begin with, I didn't know much about 3D printing before and I thought that's how they work anyway.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 5 months ago

    I guess after well over 1000h of printing I don't have to expect it to go up in flames, either ...

    That assumption can backfire awfully! Please check if your printer is affected, if so you're just lucky it didn't happen yet.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    It’s A1, not A1 Mini, that is prone to the issue. They have different structural designs.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    I really don't advice eating 3d printers you buy online. It will be at least a bad bowl movement. At the most, you has died. A true tragedy, so do not treat as pizza or other edible delights

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Is there a Lemmy version of r/IHadAStroke?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

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