The struggle is worse the older you get.

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[–] 98 points 8 months ago (18 children)

This is a joke but I lost 20 pounds so far just by eating half as much as I normally would.

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  • [–] 66 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    That’s the way it works, you’re no joke homie

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  • [–] 36 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Reminder to readers thay there is a stark difference between "cutting back" and starving yourself.

    Smaller portions and less calorie-dense options make a huge difference over time.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    This might sound weird, but after a point it's easier to just forego eating. It can be kind of dangerous how effective it is, but anyone who has gone a long time without food probably recognizes how their body stops bothering them with hunger.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    It is, the trick is it’s easier said than done for people.

    It’s tricky to require your brain and overhaul your habits.

    I say this as someone who also has lost 25 lbs. there’s a reason people refer to it as a journey.

    I say this less to diminish your point and more for support of others who are going through this thinking “man this is impossible but everyone makes it sound easy”. It’s not. It’s a marathon not a sprint.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Lots of things are easy to do once, but doing them continuously for as long as necessary is extremely hard.

    That being said I was starving for like two weeks but eventually I found I can’t eat that much anymore and it got easier.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    It's simple math, burn more than what goes in. No tricks, no fad diets, no regimen, eat less, do more.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Do you think that's something you'll be able to keep doing for the long term? Or, do you expect that you'll put the weight back on when you inevitably give up and start eating more?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Now that I’m used to eating less I’ve found that I simply can’t eat like I used to without discomfort.

    Case in point: last night I got an Italian sub and was full after half of it, while previously I would have housed the entire thing.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago*

    Not the same person, but I'll add my 2 cents.

    Eating less of what you always eat is HARD, because you eat that much to stay full. Feeling hungry 24/7 is super fucking hard, and I don't think anyone can maintain that for long.

    But it's amazing how not-filling most processed foods are. Swapping out high-calorie, unfilling food for low-calorie filling foods made it pretty much effortless.

    I didn't feel hungry, I didn't need to eat that much. But dieting is still hard, because I also ate out of habit. A bag of snacks in front of the tv, a snack with a drink after lunch, etc etc. Not because I was hungry just because it's tasty.

    Breaking that habit was also pretty easy. See, you don't need to diet 24/7. I only need to focus on dieting half an hour every other day, when I'm buying food at the supermarket. If I don't buy snacks, I can't eat snacks, it's really simple. Anyone can be strong for 30 minutes every other day, that's easy.

    So yeah, dieting is done first your head, and then in the supermarket!

    Step 1: admit your obesity is your own fault, and thus within your control.
    Step 2: buy better food, buy less crap.
    Step 3: eat what you buy.
    Step 4: keep doing step 2 and 3 forever.

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    "If you legitimately don't consent to the calories, the body has a way of trying to shut that whole thing down." - Todd Akin

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Now replace calories with rape

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I understand the burger bit but who eats a human hand? That's just gross

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The title isn't wrong. Losing weight is an extremely simple process.

    Simple doesn't mean easy, though.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago

    WITHDRAW CONSENT (projectile vomits)

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I've got that fun bit of autism where I can just will myself to not be hungry. Can only do it so often before my instincts put a stop to that by making me ravenous for like 2 days straight though. Probably shouldn't be doing it for days at a time now that I think about it.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Same lol, but I’m still sorta fat because the food I and family members make is actually SCRUMPTIOUS that I can’t avoid it, but when I want to or feel like it, I can just go like a whole day without eating. The downside is that I constantly forget to drink water because I have zero clue when I’m absolutely parched

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I learned how to harness it to do intermittent fasting, I like food, I lift heavy but sometimes not often enough so it is helpful sometimes to just go eh I'll skip a meal or two.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (14 children)

    Every fat person on earth already knows that too much food makes you fat.

    Yet somehow, even armed with this knowledge, we're all fat.

    Curious.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    It's funny how you never visualise the person on an internet forum as fat, but some of the people typing here are fat.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    We tens to visualise the people typing like us. At least, I do

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    So that's why I see everybody as fat as fuck and tipping a fedora to me. Good to know.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (5 children)
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    A combination of sugar subsidies, market penetration of transformed food while the food industry figured they could make their customers sugar-addict, the start of GDP and minimum salary drifting away from each other, meaning poor households no longer able to afford quality food, and running through 2 or 3 jobs doesn't leave you much time to cook.

    So, in a summary: that's completely a personal responsibility issue.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Isn't the correct answer that glucose-fructose syrup got subsidised?? (I might have my history wrong)

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Yes. Well that and sugar tariffs combined.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    And the long trend of decreasing home cooking really gained steam. Homemade food can be delicious, but it is rarely hypersatiable. It's also more likely to contain things like vegetables (though I'll admit, I don't use enough in my household, my wife hates my "could eat it nonstop" veggie and I'm allergic to hers).

    We've also increasingly been doing jobs that don't fulfill a meaningful portion of physical fitness, and as such we're increasingly underexercised

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    YSK: If you are an American Citizen or US Tax Resident, your first 200 pounds of fat is legally exempt and therefore does not count for BMI Purposes. Nutritionists hate this one simple trick!

    Follow me for more advice.

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  • [–] 44 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    They should invent food that has 0 calories to eat when you're bored instead of hungry.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Celery is probably the best we got and it kinda sucks and I think maybe I'd rather die.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    It's nice and crunchy and refreshing in the summer. Except to make it taste like something, I usually fill the crack with peanutbutter and raisins, so it also has calories. 😮‍💨

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Nature has even given us food with -ive calories.
    Just eat those.
    But of course, they are not particularly tasty.

    Then there is 0 calorie industrial stuff that will cause you cancer.

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  • [–] 37 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    This but unironically. It's a way more efficient way to lose weight than exercise. And it doesn't come with the Ozempic side effects

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago

    I lost 35kg within 8 months by going hardcore on controlling my diet. I did have to eat more once I started exercising, which I needed to because all the muscle was melting away right along the fat. It definitely works, but I did "fall off the wagon" once I stopped counting the calories. Now I'm trying to find that long term balance of sport and diet I can maintain in the long run.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Intermittent fasting/OMAD and light exercise (walking, a bit of cycling) is in my opinion a way easier to drop massive amounts of weight in a short time. Light exercise keeps your body healthy while operating at a caloric defecit

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    It can definitely have side effects. Psychological (eating disorders, debilitating feeling of hunger) and physical (unbalanced diet, or fatigue because the body gets in the "oh fuck must conserve energy" mode).

    There is no one size fits all solution. A random 50 year old IT worker with a sedentary lifestyle and a Big Mac diet does not need the same help as a physically active 25 year old with severe hormonal imbalances. Using Ozempic is bad in the former case, but so is shaming the latter person for relying on it.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    True, it doesn’t have the side effect of continuous hunger, feeling deprived, constant cravings, until you explode with binge eating. That would never happen

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah moving doesn't seem to lose weight (unless you're very overweight). It's very good for you, but muscle isn't lighter than fat. At some point I went from not running to running half marathons and I went from like 86 to 82 kg average, but that only really happened after I also changed my diet. Currently I stopped running temporarily because of some health reasons and I haven't really gained much weight either, I just feel weaker.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    The big two things exercise does for weight loss is it expends calories to build new muscles, and then those muscles increase your base calorie burn because they're body mass. Weight loss without exercise can consume muscle as well as fat as the body treats excess muscles as a calorie store. At the end of the day, for most people in most circumstances, losing weight as a goal really means losing fat. If someone's 110 kg and trying to lose weight, many wouldn't mind being 110 kg with a somewhat thin waist and just being ripped (ok, a lot of women would hate looking like that, but actually doing that is an incredible feat)

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    I completely agree.

    What's sad is people will torture themselves if they're overweight by working out, and then reward themselves with food afterwards.

    The worst advice we gave people is telling them they shouldn't skip meals if they're trying to lose weight. Americans/Westerners really don't care about finding solutions; only looking like they do.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    The vast majority of obese people are not willing to admit they caused their obesity, because it's a human trait not to admit your faults.

    Humans would much rather paint themselves as the victim because that's mentally much easier. "I'm obese because of PCOS/thyroid/magic/metabolism" or "obesity isn't unhealthy, everyone should be like me". The alternative is "I caused this, I'm maintaining this, and thus I can stop maintaining this".

    Once I made the realisation that I was working hard to be obese every day, it was super fucking easy to lose weight. But to find the solution, you need to identify the problem first, and if that problem is you, it's going to be an uncomfortable problem.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    Jokes on you I got some sort of undiagnosed malabsorption issues and won't get fat even when I eat burgers and candy and alcohol day after day.

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    Sort of and also not. Not getting energy from food also means I have no energy for you know, existing.

    So while I might not need to worry about getting fat, I've also nowhere to display not being fat.

    I tend to sleep quite a lot.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Youve prob tried everything but have you tried modafinil, was hyped up as a limitless pill (is nowhere near it ofch) but you dont feel sleepy on it and thats what the army uses it for or used it for at some point.

    I can vouch that it works, doesnt feel like a stimulant like adderal or energy drinks, just don't feel sleepy yet can sleep if you choose to.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I haven't tried modafinil no. Should give it a whack if any comes available. I used to have a classmate who was on it but that was 10+ year's ago and I didn't really know him.

    What actually worked best was the very plain diet but I just... it's just so boring eating nothing but rice and gluten free fish sticks. But then I started to be able to just easily sleep 6 hours and get up. Felt like a real person. Because genuinely oftentimes if I try to get up but haven't gotten enough rest, I'll be worse off than when I've had a bottle of rum. Like my eyes won't go straight and I can't really get up properly.

    Although I have to admit that some of these later long sleeps have been contributed to by the new meds I got for a broken rib, amitriptyline or the like. But it's alaovi used for IBS and depression, and neither of those are going amiss for me basically.

    But man it's tiring. Idk how that would help anyone with depression. I mean yeah I care less about being tired and am not as annoyed about sleeping more than half the day but I don't feel like it's really helped my depression at all if it keeps me asleep for more than half the day.

    But even without it I have issues. And I open curtains and have automatic lights to come on full at a decent wakeup time.

    But yeah I could give modafinil a whack if i had some idk. But I think I'll just have to to back to rice/fish/potatoes/chicken diet.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    no no it is not.

    being a bag of skeletons that do not like each other, eating 5000 calories a day and losing weight, that is not fun.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah luckily I don't have it quite that bad, (especially after I went on an exclusion diet and slowly added things to a really plain diet and sort of figured a bit what works what doesn't) but, yes, I definitely agree with you. Not fun.

    I'd rather be fat and jolly than slim and super cranky from constantly being in some weird state of mild starvation. But it's so mild and I make sure to supplement vitamins and whatnot so none of my basic lab-work is showing anything too far out of the ordinary, so the busy public doctors can't be bothered to look into it since to them everything seems fine. Even when I can show them almost a years worth of literally shit pics, me having taken photographs of my stinky and floating orange poo. (I sent them to a spam-email I have so I don't have to keep them in my phone's gallery.)

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    I had a massive infection when I was that. It wasn't just the malabsorption with me, but doctors insist you can only have one health problem at a time. I'm down to 3500 now and maintaining a healthy weight, so 👍

    I don't want to practice medicine online, but if I had started smoking weed I'd middle school I'd have way more organs than I do now. There's some small literature about it but Jennifer refuses to publish. Thinks she has to wait until I'm dead and we have had that problem before.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I started smoking weed about around 16 or 18. Not often. But pretty daily from my mid 20's at least. Definitely helps with eating and nausea or gi-pain. (Sitting on the toilet for an hour or two is much easier when you also have a bong and a phone with you.)

    I don't have a lot of infections and am generally "within normal parameters" as like you say, the doctors can only think there's a single problem at a time. And at least here I always get a new doctor for most visits and I get like 30 min meeting every blue moon.

    The public doctors kinda suck for complex, chronic issues. And I can't afford private ones to that extent.

    I don't think my malabsorption is quite as bad as yours, but then I also randomly get seizures, to which I've gotten zero explanations for. Tested for epilepsy and had and MRI and whatnot, but nothing. But since Finland is kinda backwards when it comes to cannabis, they blamed it on my "drug use". (Even though I have high CBD strains and they're literally anti-convulsants to a degree iirc.)

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Coeliac disease? Does your poop float?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Well I've been tested for celiacs a bunch. Blood tests and even an upper GI endoscopy (prolly one of the worst medical procedures I've had and I've had a bunch, you're forced to deepthroat an endoscope so that they can go from your mouth to your small intestine and grab a sample), my villi don't show signs of coeliac damage.

    But yeah, my poop does float whenever I have gluten in my diet, which is why I'm now without it. Also milk proteins seem to have an effect. But goddamn leaving gluten has been a somewhat challenge, not to mention how hard it is if I can't have any nice yoghurt (Greek or Turkish mainly) or cheeses.

    But yeah I told healthcare about my poop consistently being yellow/orange and floating and I even have photos from almost a year of me following it. Nah they just dismissed me said "it's probably just air trapped in your poop". Sure, yeah, except I've also considered that and the photos clearly show that's not the case. They don't care. Just do whatever is the easiest for them no matter how it affects me.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    My god why didn't I think of that!

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Why'd they keep it a secret? Someone tell the fat people, quick!

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago

    Unfortunately, common rhetoric among boomers and their cattle is that we shouldn't skip meals if we want to lose weight.

    So many people proudly spread that bullshit, and it's caused so much damage they don't have to deal with.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Technically true most of the times

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    In my country, fast food is too expensive, much cheaper to be eating homestyle meals at a roadside shop.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Is that country the US? /s

    But seriously, fast food isn't cheap anymore. It's cheaper to go to a real sub shop than it is to go to Subway! Or just make food at home.

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