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Actually my back hurts because your mother damaged it with her large mass when we were engaged in coitus.
Daaaaaaad stop
I read coitus as combat. Makes sense I suppose
I'm using a "laying chair" which is superior for posture

I don't know exactly what these are based on your descriptions, but I went through physical therapy and was given some stretches/exercises that do for sure help some. It isn't a "cure", but as you said, if you have back pain and can do them, you should be trying to.
I suffered a slipped L5-S1 disc last Nov - suffering symptoms of pain and numbness in my left upper calf and outer side of my left foot. I did an MRI in Dec and there was nerve compression found and a degenerating L5-S1 disc.
Eventually the pain went away and the numbness became much less obvious but the doctors I saw recommended microdisectomy to avoid further potential damage to the nerve.
Immediately after the op (I did it 20th Feb) I did feel better but one or two days later the numbness returned stronger than before the op. Now on medication to try and see if the inflammation is temporary or something long term. Sigh
real solution for most people would be to start exercising
Well this and a shorter work day/week so one doesn't have to chose between a social life, a healthy body, home upkeep, child care, and self care. Maybe sprinkle in some accessible and free healthcare both physical and mental. Idk, wouldn't be the first time i was wrong about something.
Exactly right. Just a bit of exercise every week is enough to get stronger muscles and no pain in back or anywhere else. At least that worked for me, and its easy to do.
Peoples bodies are rarely used for physical work if you work in some sitting down position all day, and it means you lose all muscles with time.
That sounds like a lot of work ...
Are you sure there aren't easy solutions that only involve spending money and not effort? Maybe a pill or expensive chair?
If you can help it, taking short breaks in between long work hours and stretching goes a long way without buying anything outrageous.
RSIBreak on Linux Workrave on Windows.
I think both are multi platform but I've had problems making them work in the other OS.
I have all those things, but my back hurts because I fucked it up on my 20's moving file cabinets at a minimum wage job.
I do consider it the reason i don't have carpal tunnel after 30 years of IT/Code/Sysadmin though.
TL;DR your back hurts because you're poor.
Nah, OP is just being elitist trying to justify those purchases. (not that they're bad ideas, just unnecessary)
The real answer is posture and lack of stretching and exercize. Unless you have an underlying issue like scoliosis, stretching and exercize fix 90% of the aches and pains young people whine about with "getting old" in their 30's.
"Hmmm, I'm going to write you a prescription for 75% more RGB LED backlighting"
Nah it's because I don't have enough monitors.
Need a 4th one to balance things out nicely
But then you won't have a middle one to look straight ahead. Go for 5 instead
Your back hurts because you keep the same posture even when your body tells you not to.
When you have a job, and say work for 3-4 hours, your body will tell you to stop and do something else for a couple hours. But you can’t cause life.
The ergonomic stuff are fulfilling their purpose by giving you a decent posture, your just holding it too long.
This is also why being rich would be a solution, even those who are rich but work, they aren’t working 40 hours every week nonstop. It’s also why they are so keen that “golf meetings” are so effective.
About the golf meetings:
I made up a story around it. Basically, golf is a metaphor for business (and sex, now that i think about it). You gotta get the ball (yourself) into the hole (your target). Sometimes, you can't do it in one step, so you require multiple steps to approach your goal. In any case, you take big steps in the beginning, and then as you get closer you need to become more gentle and delicate to not miss the perfect spot.
I hate that planking is the best exercise for strengthening your lower back. They’re just so boring to do.
You can spice them up with alternating leg raises or do a superman or bird dog. There are also loads of other exercises that work. The best exercise isn't the most effective one, it's the one you actually do consistently
The best exercise is the one you actually do
That’s how I finally got to exercise regularly. First, I spend way too long trying to hype myself up for running. Never happened. I hate running. No amount of convenience can convince me. Then I started hiking and yoga and swimming and whatever came my way. Sure, I don’t have any sort of routine, but I do some sport very regularly!
Pushups are also great, also helps with breasts that get easily fucked with your shoulders laying forwards while on computer long days. That shit got me so bad I had to take sick leave for a week due to shoulder pain
Deadlifts would like a word!
Also they are more fun, you feel like a super hero that can lift a house, and it's a compound lift!
Agreed. Planks and cardio are my downfall because they are mind numbingly boring
That's the best part about cardio. You can do so many other things while doing it. ... OK well, not lots of different things, but once you're past the hell of getting into a shape, you kindof just zone out into the music/podcast/video/what ever and huffpuff away for a while while entertained.
If you go to a gym, some even have theatre rooms filled with treadmills/etc and a movie playing.
I don't end up pushing very hard when I do cardio that way because my attention is divided, but yeah something is better than nothing
It's often actually important to not go too crazy for 'just' day to day cardio. So that actually helps normally.
Unless you're trying to specifically improve cardio, like a runner trying to improve times, mellow cardio is what you want. If you are trying to improve cardio, then definitely mind on the game doing something like intervals!
Absent minded intense cardio is how you get heart attacks. (y'know, outside of the normal health issues that compund into them, often triggered by something 'intense')
I did planking for about a thousand years (or so it felt) and it didn't really help at all. What did help massively was dumbbell swings! In just a couple of days my back pain was like 90% gone, totally gone today.
I'm quite tall, so YMMV.
no, my lower back hurts because i got impaled there. it hurts less because i have a chair with a double rocker and well positioned monitors
Could also be kidney stones
Or lupus.
It's never lupus.
I could have sworn it was due to the severe injury I sustained, but who am I to argue with science?
What if you’re in construction?
While dumb expensive the Aeron chair makes sitting at a desk all day do able and not painful.
They've come down in price and there are actually better options out there now.
What are those better options...?
Fleeing into the woods.
Curious about the chairs too though.
The cheapest chair you can find with a great lumbar pillow that fits your back, and a butt pillow
I will let you know if I turn into a shrimp
Used steel case leap. Doesn't look pretty or have RGB, or a built in mini fridge or whatever, but it works and it costs like 100-200usd.
You're talking about v1 I assume? V2's go for quite a bit more
I use all three of those and my back hurts more.
Stretch. If you don't know how, look up yoga routines, and make sure not to force yourself into any positions you cannot easily reach. Until you're more experienced with pushing against your body's limits, it's pretty easy to hurt yourself pushing up against limits.
split keyboard recs?
I have a Lily58 that I love. I put mine together myself (save for soldering. The place I found mine offered a service to do that before shipping) so it’s a bit different looking than this one shown in their preview, but it’s the same layout.
I love my Moonlander keyboard at home: https://www.zsa.io/moonlander
And I built an Iris for my desk at work: https://keeb.io/products/iris-se-kit
There’s several out there depending on what you want. I don’t mess with anything like ortholinear or Ergodox because the stagger is weird. So in the “regular keyboard but split” space, if you don’t want to build your own, there’s the cloud9, the dygma raise 2, and even such like the Feker Alice looks cool too - it’s not mechanically split but does give the split curve feel like the MS Ergo.
I use a DIY keyboard called the Dactyl Manuform and I love it to bits


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