Skate players were explicitly told map areas would not be "locked behind a paywall"

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[–] 183 points 8 months ago (6 children)

My brain just shuts off when I read stuff like this.

Man, I dunno. Fuck AAA gaming, I'll go play something else.

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  • [–] 87 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Indies are where its at. Or classic games, especially with mods

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  • [–] 57 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Games are a modern media and I think suffer from a lot of modern engagement mechanics.

    We need to stop viewing them as a constant stream of "new content" and more as an established library.

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  • [–] 60 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Absolutely the problem. They've stopped trying to make fun and started trying to exploit psychological weaknesses and hijack our internal reward systems to rinse us of both time and money.

    Fun is no longer the driving factor, and it makes me feel not quite angry or nauseous, but somewhere around those emotions.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago

    They've stopped trying to make fun and started trying to exploit psychological weaknesses and hijack our internal reward systems to rinse us of both time and money

    Exactly, and the fact that Jeffrey Epstein was pro microtransactions really tells you the kind of scum we're dealing with here

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I shifted to that view a long time ago. I have a selection of "classics" I play on rotation and I add a few indies or modern ports every now and then.

    The multiplay scene went in a direction I don't intend to follow. Some old friends are thinking about hosting a retro lan party, but I'm going to make it clear that I'm walking if they try sneaking in any modern shit.

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  • [–] 114 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    Man, remember back in the day when you just went and bought a game and then played it?

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    In American-style neo-liberalism, everything must have a price tag. If it doesn't generate a profit, it can't exist.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Then people should stop buying, otherwise nothing will change. People complained about Nintendo switch 2, yet they bought it.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    This is actually good advice... in isolation. Encouraging people to spend their money more wisely can bring awareness to an issue but it ultimately does little to implement change. Sure, you and I (and the Fediverse as a whole) might be hyper-vigilant about these kind of things but the average consumer isn't. Continuing with your Nintendo example, Nintendo has decades of brand recognition and a zealous fanbase to satisfy the demand. An eager gaming press will gladly take free hardware from Nintendo for positive coverage.

    Real change won't happen until the tap is turned off, so to speak. These companies are taking advantages of gaps in the law that permit them to get away with this. Antitrust law in the US dates back to a time when steam-powered trains were still common and the last breakup involved a telephone company. When AT&T was broken up, the home computer (desktop in modern parlance) was just starting to take off.

    So, yes, we should spend our money elsewhere when we see this kinds of corporate abuses but until you starve the beast, keep expecting these kinds of behaviors.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I understand the sentiment here but let's note that you do not go buy Skate. because it's free to play.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Remember when free to play meant free to play?

    I remember shareware.

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  • [–] 88 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    An important detail is that this rental option is paid for in grind currency, not paid currency. Yes, "for now".

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  • [–] 81 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, that's just to normalise rentable levels. Once it has been begrudgingly accepted, there'll be one that requires premium currency. Never buy EA.

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    [–] 48 points 8 months ago*

    This is a great example for the moral justifications of piracy. The bytes for the maps are on your hard drive, why the fuck should you not be allowed to play on them? When someone playing a pirated copy has a better experience than someone on a bought licensed copy something's not right.

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  • [–] 42 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Uh...Jared Kushner owns EA now, so I don't know why this would be relevant to anyone.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I don't know why EA would be relevant to anyone for the past 20+ years, but here we are.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    because they have exclusive rights to making an NFL video game

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The fun part is..I tried the newest one on game pass recently. Aside from roster updates it’s the same game I bought on disc 20 years ago

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  • [–] 40 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    After all these things, why are people still buying anything from EA? Just boycott them.

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  • [–] 35 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    We're now expected to rent imaginary spaces for our characters to play the game we already purchased in?

    Is advocating people be burned at the stake against the ToS here? Because I'm advocating the fuck out of that.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I see a clear correlation between the decline of tar-and-feathers and riding people out on a rail and the rise of terrible business practices.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Yes. Remember when we burned people at the stake? Whatever happened to that? Just live stream a few billionaires and child rapists being slowly burned as an object lesson to the rest and I imagine things would change fairly quickly.

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  • [–] 28 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    EA literally had one job:

    • Make Skate 2 but with a new area and updated graphics.

    And EA went and fucked it up being greedy. And they wonder why Steam is killing it.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I would settle for Skate 2 without the soundtrack so they can release it again. No improvements. There is a glitch where you push a few buttons(throw board, turn right, jump, force pull board and grab board before landing) and go flying while the game physics shits the bed. It was great for getting to places that were otherwise inaccessible or not yet unlocked and for getting real high Hall of Meat scores. Imperfections like that are what make a great game perfect.

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago

    I would say this tracks for Saudi Arab-EA, but they did this kind of shit before the Saudis owned them.

    Honestly from a business perspective, EA is one if the smartest publishers out there. They made a game and stripped away most of the functionality and then sold it for full price. They then slowly added the content back in content packs and people gladly paid. That was The Sims. And it’s had like three sequels, all monetized the exact same way. And people keep paying them.

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  • [–] 50 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    People are still playing EA games after the take over by Saudis/Jared Kushner??? Sorry, I feel no empathy for these gamers.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (10 children)

    there's no moral consumption under capitalism so many people just don't care

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    idk. I've heard we can still consume pussy.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    That poor cat, are you forcing it to play EA games?????

    Animal Humane Society operates the primary animal cruelty reporting line in Minnesota: 612-772-9999 or report online at investigations@animalhumanesociety.org.

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  • [+] -1 points 8 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    i know, for my persuasive argument let me start with

    you are just a piece of shit humanbeing

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    yeah, a bit too extreme take from me. I'm just so annoyed about people who apathetically keep supporting things that make our world worse or that are produced from suffering of others.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago

    I still have Skate 3 installed on my Xbox for those times when I just want to chill for an hour. It makes me a little sad when I see what its become nowadays...

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    EA invents a new way to assure I never purchase their products. Ever.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago

    It's EA. Anyone who's surprised by this either is an idiot or hasn't been paying attention.

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  • [–] 32 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Yet people have zero self control and keep giving them money.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Exactly. EA do it because enough people allow them to do it.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago

    I really don't understand people like that, though. There are plenty of great games that don't have predatory monetisation. Yet millions and millions opt to get fleeced. This shit won't stop as long as people keep falling for it.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Paying for a game you don't own, only to have to rent the gameplay inside the thing you don't even own to begin with. Presumably all content also being locked on company servers meaning it will get EOL'd and inaccessible at some point in the future.

    Immaculate.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    first time hearing about EA in years, and they're doing this shit. kinda nostalgic really

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I looked on EA's games released over the last 1.5 years and it is a bunch of sports game, the Sims, Battlefield 6, Plants & Zombies remake, Split Friction (EA is publisher), Dragon Age: the Veilguard and Tales of Kenzera: Zau (EA is publisher).

    It is difficult to understand how EA can be valued at 55 billions of dollars with those releases over 1.5 years. And in the list for upcoming games it is only one game, Star Wars Zero Company, that is listed.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    I absolutely hate the whale hunting that developers go through these days.

    It's more profitable for them to find a few whales spending $10,000 on their game every year than making a good product.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    Usual reminder:

    If you know a parent who is not an active gamer, remind them to never buy games for their kids that have microtransactions, passes, or any form of post-purchase payment. They often will have no idea what they are contributing to as it is not part of their 'bubble' to be aware of what these things do to their kids, their kids' friends, and the industry and society as wholes.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    Obviously ridiculous.

    That said I dunno, it’s very easy for me to just play the game and never give them a dime.

    All I want from the game is to dick around from time to time and it gives me that for free.

    Every time I play I just find things to launch my ass off over and over. I just accept the free shit and play occasionally.

    Obviously not going to defend EA for this decision but I dunno, it’s still maybe blown a little out of proportion. I guess it depends on how invested in the game you are as a player, and as someone who has Skate 1-3 still and had good fun with them when they came out, the current game gives me what I want in a way that I don’t have to pay for so I’m fine with it.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    Soooo, the metaverse paid plots? I swear, every company with even an inkling of a 3d environment now just wants to “build” and sell worthless plots as if it’s real land, and literally nobody who uses these actually fucking asked.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    That's on part of EA, look at sims 4, you have to spend 1000€ to buy all DLCs.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Unrelated, but when did all Magazines start faking youtube thumbnails as the meta image..? I bet times are desperate, but I mean at what point do you understand that it's all the deceit and desperation that drives literally everyone away to the media they imitate?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    In this one case EA is to blame, but I do know what you mean. I think it's just that YouTube videos have had a large impact on the form media takes, and that's trickled out towards other forms.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    EA lies more than Trump. News at 11.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I don't buy anything from EA, but I'm curious: Is it difficult to acquire their games via the high seas?

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Does anyone remember how Skate 2 was the best one and they won't release it again? I suspect it is because of the music.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    What's Andrew Rousso doing in the image? Seems completely unrelated to the content of the article.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    That's really disappointing. I have already completed all of the major challenges in this game and it was really great. I'm pretty disappointed to hear this is the direction they've went off to since I last checked in. I would say that if you miss playing the old skate games you can either get an Xbox series X and play them on backwards compatibility mode. Or you can give this a shot because at least it's pretty fun for quite a while without any spend.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Is the game not ass anymore at least? I'd rather play the OG THPS without any qol additions added by the good remake than this game after I had tried it.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The suckers who buy this trash and pay for it deserve it. There's so much good gaming to be had, at this point it's a choice.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I think of this practice as a tax on herds.

    You want to belong in a trendy group, you board the hype train and pay the tax to belong in the herd.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Fucking lol.. This is the Metaverse with extra steps.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Sense of pride and accomplishment

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago*

    EA is for gaming like popcorn is for haute cuisine.

    Wait, I made a mistake. There is good popcorn.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Using in game credits to rent content? Not exactly new, I remember that being the entire business model of EA's Battlefield Heroes (circa 2009). That was only 3 years after Bethesda was first selling horse armor.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Welp, uninstalled.

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