I've been the car driver who nearly made jam out of the cyclist in the last panel. I've also been the cyclist hit by a car which was driving in the cycle lane.

Bad road users are everywhere and they use all sorts of transportation. Let's stop with the division and generalisation.

Give cyclists lanes, so they wouldn't have to stand in a half metre gap between an 18-wheeler and a traffic barrier covered in mix of 19th century soot and souls of the damned. Then they'll follow the rules, case in point: entire Denmark.

In my state they changed the rules where a cyclist can treat a stop sign like a yeild sign, and a stop light like a stop sign. 

the reasoning is this will encourage cyclists to ride through neighborhoods rather than on busier main streets. cyclists need to maintain momentum when riding, and stopping every couple blocks for a stop sign is a huge momentum killer. 

obviously cyclists run a much higher risk of injury in a traffic accident than a driver. also cyclists dont really have blind spots the way cars do. so generally if a cyclist runs a stop, they have already checked for oncoming traffic. yes, there are idiots out there both driving and cycling, but typically if you saw a cyclist run a stop sign, he knows youre there and went when it was safe. 

It's not like the cars in my neighborhood are obeying traffic signals or roadway laws in general.

somebody recently posted a video on one of the fuckcars communities about how using boogle maps in Netherlands was impractical. In the same video they were explaining how they removed traffic lights from no car zones.

traffic lights are necessary because of motorized traffic. When you're cycling you're moving less than a hundred kg at about 15kmh, not +1000kg at 50kmh or more

This thread is doing a great job of explaining why tribalism around forms of transportation is not constructive.

Build bicycle infrastructure.

Fucking cyclists causing all the traffic and pollution. Get a car you assholes!

Car drivers love to criticize cyclists, but they don't realize they're the real aggressors in traffic. They both do most of the bad behaviors, and have the greater damage potential

Have you ever been cycling at 3-4 am? It's amazing. The roads are so ridiculously spacious when there aren't any cars around and there is nothing to slow you down on intersections and roundabouts. Can definitely recommend.

Who can forget the time a cyclist ran a red light and killed sixteen people?

boomer ass take

This sort of attitude by cyclists is why we lack bike infrastructure in the US. Back in the 70s one weird asshole insisted that bikes be treated like cars and fought against it.

I mean if we are going to cherry pick examples, the car users are in a massive disadvantage despite the confounder of having plates.

I am a bike rider and a car driver and I 100% agree with this. Everyone needs to follow the rules. When I'm driving, I let a bike go even if I think I have right of way. It adds 10 seconds to my day. Same thing with Bike. I give people the right of way and stop at light and stop signs looking both ways.

Ah yes because every driver obeys every law all the time. It's only the cyclists that break laws! No driver would ever consider speeding, rolling through a stop sign, or being aggressive!

Won't someone think of the poor drivers!!

OP & sympathizers not comprehending the auto industry lobby. 🤦‍♀️

Yeah the world have yo be car first, that why jaywalking is illegal to free space for car.

I both bike and drive. I will say, at least in my town, both bicyclists and drivers are egregious traffic violators.

Bicyclists consistently ride on the sidewalk, go the wrong way down a one-way, and run red lights and stop signs. Drivers go way too fast, go the wrong way down a one-way, and run red lights and stop signs.

If bicyclists are going to be on the road, then they need to be licensed. Also, drivers should probably require re-testing when licenses are renewed.

I work for the dot as a rest stop maintenance worker. I've seen it all when it comes to stupid oblivious drivers. That includes truck drivers, people who do it professionally. I'm not saying that bikers aren't morons too. What I'm saying is that we don't have a bike problem. We don't have a car problem either. We have an idiot problem. And it's terminal.