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  • [–] 53 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (18 children)

    "It'll be our beautiful 51st state!"

    🎃

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  • [–] 30 points 10 months ago (15 children)

    More like the US will be bought by Canada.

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (10 children)

    I too like to help people out but I don't know if we'll survive absorbing Florida and Texas while remaining a federal democracy. We already have Alberta and it's difficult. 😅

    (AB canucks, this is a joke. Please don't get mad at me. If you still do, I apologize.)

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Just take the northeast (NY, VT, CT, MA, NH, RI, ME), and the west coast. The rest won't complain.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)
  • Washington and Oregon at least are part of the West Coast, and I don't know how much Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, and the Dakotas would complain. Outside of urban areas the country seems to be pretty red regardless of where you go, and those states are definitely not known for being very urban.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    If Canada got rid of FPTP, proportional representation and ranked voting across all its provinces (Texas and Florida would become provinces) and federation (get rid of the monarchy), Florida and Texas would be much less of an issue.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    Is Canada that big on charities? I know they’re well known as being pleasant and kind, but are they so pleasant and kind that they’d accept a catastrophically bankrupt welfare country as their own?

    There no expected ROI on America for decades!

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    [–] 135 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    We need a government with the balls to nationalize this shit, and charge for every single gram that's being extracted. And do the same with every other natural resource, including oil.

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  • [–] 90 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Oooooh, best we can do is let corporations rape and pillage the land, and make citizens pay for the whole operation through taxes, sorry.

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  • [–] 48 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Don't forget about the cleanup after they're gone.

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  • [–] 105 points 10 months ago

    "Inexhaustible"

    Humans: hold my beer

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  • [–] 77 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    Great! Let’s sell this off to multinationals ASAP so we can accelerate pillaging the land without consultation, outsource the jobs and ensure the fewest Canadians benefit from the windfall.

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Let’s sell this off to multinationals ASAP so we can accelerate pillaging the land without consultation, outsource the jobs and ensure the fewest Canadians benefit from the windfall.

    Ah! Someone who's familiar with Alberta oil & gas extraction.

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  • [–] 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    …AND BC lumber, AND Ontario steel, AND maritime fish, AND everybodies’ water and minerals, etcetc

    I call it “outsourcing profits”.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    That’s a perfect description of Carney’s MO.

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  • [–] 74 points 10 months ago (1 child)
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    “Almost inexhaustible”

    Humanity: Hold my beer.

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  • [–] 42 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Incoming reclassification of maple syrup as a WMD.

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  • [–] 32 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    America: “That’s ours! We called it!”

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    And we'll just keep shipping it out of the country for pennies for other countries to make value added products.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    You want some of the impacts of making those value added products in your back yard?

    A key reason why Canada ships its oil, lumber, and minerals elsewhere for processing is because there is a human cost to processing these things that moat people don't want to pay.

    Also, where clean processing is possible it makes processed materials cost-prohibitive when you can just buy the stuff from jurisdictions where health and environmental laws are lax or non-existent and you can process however you like.

    Well, tax the dirty processors and eliminate them from the supply chain, you might suggest! That's not easier either, see eliminating forced labour from the supply chain as an example.

    I'm not saying nothing should or could be done about Canada's extraction-only economy, just that it isn't as easy it may appear at first glance.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Well, we've figured it on things like canola (crush for oil), peas (fractionation plants), lumber (sawmills) and cattle (packing plants). Those have pretty much been in spite of ourselves, not because, as they've flourished when we've had trade wars with the US/China (or BSE as the case may be).

    We just need a nice crippling tariff on raw lithium and we'll invest in making batteries. Maybe an export tariff for anything that heads to the US, and funnel that to startup some competition to CATL. The amount of human labor a LFP plant uses is pretty minimal. It would give us all those high-tech retraining positions I keep hearing about we're going to get any day now.

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Finally, good news for people with bipolar!

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    This is just an ad for a satellite exploration company. It is not even that big a deal.

    From the article, “That potential would place Cisco among the largest hard-rock lithium deposits now being tracked in the James Bay region.”

    So, not even the biggest in the area.

    Also, Sodium Ion is about to make Lithium much less of a big deal.

    Still great economically but hardly as world changing as the headline makes out.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    This is the part that I find interesting:

    If Cisco ultimately proves its larger target, the project could anchor a domestic lithium supply chain linking Quebec mines and battery factories.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    The federal and Ontario governments have said repeatedly that they want to build a lithium battery industry. I worry we are arriving too late now that Sodium Ion is upon us but I am probably being too pessimistic.

    None of that depends on this deposit specifically though. Canada already has lots of Lithium reserves. Much of it is in the same district as this. Of course this could end up being the biggest and truly be “the anchor” I suppose.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Sodium Ion is about to make Lithium much less of a big deal.

    Sodium Ion is great diversity source for batteries, but they are inferior in many respects.

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  • [–] 31 points 10 months ago* (7 children)

    I know there's been lots of headlines in the past like OMG there's not enough lithium! It's never been true.

    It's one of the most abundant elements out there, it's everywhere. It was always more about what reserves we knew about, but when what we knew about wasn't going to be enough, people go looking, and it's abundant.

    Also the more uses there are for it, the more profitable it is to extract from these methods and the better we get at it, the cheaper it is to extract, which further opens up even more options.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago

    I don't actually remember any articles that claimed there were lithium shortages in that there isn't enough on the planet, but rather that China is the only country with a working supply chain.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    It’s one of the most abundant elements out there

    I mean, it's not. Either in the crust or the universe - stellar nucleosynthesis skips straight to carbon.

    Your point still stands, though, since abundance is only one of the factors that goes into how easy something is to recover.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    It's 31st in the crust, there's more than Lead.

    Then it's all over the world in other areas in higher concentrations like in brines (the easiest way for us to get it) or clays, and there's over 200 billion tons of it in the ocean. Granted the ocean stuff would take some figuring out how to get, but it's a ridiculous amount.

    Whenever we go looking for it, we keep finding vast reserves of it.

    Such as this just this month: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/1-5-trillion-lithium-deposit-114805186.html?guccounter=1

    Edit: for the sea water stuff, capturing it as a side product of desalination or a next step in desalination might be a starting way to begin extracting it without massively increasing costs as some of the costs will already be part of desalination, which could help bring desalination costs down via another revenue stream.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Wow, that's a better abundance than I thought - I guess it really concentrates here - although still not that impressive. The major natural source of it and it's friends beryllium and boron is literally the nature particle accelerators out there in the cosmos, and the collisions they create, for example in our upper atmosphere.

    The rest goes under "things other than abundance", which I did mention. Bismuth is a cheap element because it concentrates itself in veins and has limited applications, despite being comparably rare to silver. At the other end titanium is more common than all forms of carbon put together but is an absolute PITA to concentrate into metal and then manufacture into products.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    And it belongs to the people of Canada. Right?

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago*

    Are you folks interested in some freedom!?

    Asking for your neighbors to the south.

    /s, just in case it wasn't obvious.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    That potential would place Cisco among the largest hard-rock lithium prospects now being tracked in the James Bay region.

    That's way less impressive than the headline makes it seem.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago

    inb4 US bombs Canada for some lame excuse of a reason

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    what a godawful website

    thanks for the blocklist addition

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Not backing up the site, but are you running an Adblock? I had no ads when I opened it.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    Sounds like a dictatorship that needs McLiberated™

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Wasn't the last time a Canadian company discovered an "inexhaustable supply" of some mineral it was a gold scam that was one of the biggest mining industry scams in history that scammed people out of their pensions?

    Please, I would like to see chain-of-custody third party samples before jumping to conclusions.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    I am sure you are thinking of BreX.

    Other than Canadian investors and mining as a general theme, I cannot think of a single reason to link the two stories.

    Also, BreX never claimed “inexhaustible” anything and was certainly not “the last time” for anything either.

    Canada has more mining companies and mining investment than any country in the world. These kinds of discoveries are common-place. There have been many, many discoveries and success stories in the decades since BreX.

    And this is just another Lithium deposit. Not the biggest in the world and probably not even the biggest in the James Bay district.

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