The number of massive trucks I see without a speck of dirt in the bed that are used mainly for commuting and groceries is pathetic.
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Just a few thousand truck flipping cars on the road might be a good start
What's the Lancia logo doing on there?
I don't know where that's from, but it kinda has Lancia Stratos concept vibes to me.
Lancia Stratos Zero was kinda similar.
Not to speak of the Lancia Stratos, the original cheese wedge:

That one apparently did well in rally, so I have trouble seeing it as a ‘hugging the ground’ supercar. Even though Porsches and Lambos also were in rally.
It's a bit of a misconception. Soft-sprung cars can be hella fast on roads.
But modern supercars are sprung so slow for downforce, to try to turn their bottoms into vacuum cleaners. But (outside of racetracks) its mostly for show and 'sporty feel,' as this downforce doesn't really kick in till like 90mph+. In fact, many racecars are faster around hairpins when sprung looser and higher.
That has traffic-flipping vibes of the upgraded Agency Supercar from the game Crackdown. I like.
Just passed one of those on my work today. It was LADA 2108 with lowered roof and suspension planted all the way down. Kind of like hybrid of theese two:


It got stuck in a pothole at an intersection...
Just gonna keep on posting this

I should get an M1 Abrams and write off as a business expense
It would probably be quieter than any of the diesel pickup trucks on the road too!
I remember hearing years ago how the M1 Abrams was a battlefield domination machine that could only be killed by another M1. That was clearly propaganda. Those overweight, overpriced pieces of shit got lit the fuck up after being shipped to Ukraine.
Russian invasion of ukraine has been the only war in quite a long time where a major power has been fighting against a major power. most other conflicts in many decades have been asymmetrical warfare/symmetrical warfare between outdated militaries. Ukraine has shown that drones are the new thing in warfare, they provide excellent intel, cheap short range pinpoint accurate light artillery. unmatched spotting for heavier artillery and with a bit more expense long range strategic strikes are also possible. With drone warfare MBTs seem to be mostly just the juiciest of targets.
Where previously M1 could be resistant to most attacks, now with drone spotting a direct hit with guided shells can score a direct hit of 155mm shell on top armour of tanks.
"Your honor, I got the M1 because it was safer than an F150 in my neighborhood with lots of small children."
A 0.2m tall 3 year old?? nope, reading comprehension, that's distance
I've driven a Volvo L120H. It had. A pretty great visibility forward, better than my own car (Peugeot 108) lol. But that's due to sitting so high up and only when I took the front loader off. Backwards it had a camera, which I was so jelly of when backing
This could be solved so many different ways.
The most obvious is getting rid of the stupid CAFE regulations and Chicken tax that basically incentivise the fuck out of making these monstrosities.
The others are less likely to be done in a country like the USA with its 2 party system where the options are conservatism and fascist conservatism.
Im sick and tired of this bullshit claim that we can only choose beyween conservatism and fascism. This completely overlooks the Christian fascist theocratic option that is also available to those who really love "freedom".
Or just apply the CAFE standards to all vehicles equally, don’t create loopholes that enable this kind of shit.
Fucking with a coworker back in the day who drove a monster SUV with zero need. I don't noramlly make judgement on that but I knew the family well. Her husband had a nice truck and their one kid was adult and moved out.
"I drive it because it's safer."
"So you're happy to kill someone in a tiny car like mine, as long as you're OK?"
<stares motherfuckerly>
"Aren't you Christian? What do you figure Jesus would say about that?"
"Get out of my office Shalafi."
🤷🏻
It bugs me when people refuse to acknowledge they're being a selfish prick. At least have the strength of character to look someone in the eye and say "Yes, I'd rather you die than me". Fucking cowards.
Old joke, but Jesus drove a Honda sedan.
He and his disciples were together in one Accord.
John 10:18:
"No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father".
He didnt just drive it, he raced it, using NOS given to him by god!
It isn't safer if all of the other drivers are also in massive suvs.
May Skeletor suggest: Regulation
regulation is why cars in the USA are so large. all the safety requirements pushed them larger and larger and heavier.
also the chicken tax is why our trucks must be large.
not USanian but afaik cars got so big over there because trucks (being work vehicles) have less (environmental, safety, ...) regulations than cars, that's why SUVs got so popular, manufacturers pushed them onto public. as long as the base for the vehicle is that of a truck they are legally exempt from many limits.
source: probably "Not Just Bikes" on y*utube idk
EDIT: just read about the chicken tax, interesting...
cars are way bigger than they were 10-20 years ago. My 2017 civic is larger than my 1995 Camry, and not much smaller than my 1989 4Runner. Mostly because of safety features. My 1995 didn't have massive crumple zones and 20 air bags. it had 1 airbag.
Smaller modern cars still have the same safety features, marketing has found the best way to make consumers want new and more expensive cars through the idea of big car=safe, which only becomes true if the other car involved in a crash is also big, but just like the comic shows, it becomes an arms race where it only increases the danger, as a bigger car also has bigger inertia, so a crash at the same speed has drastic different energy transference.
people like bigger cars for many other reasons.
they are more comfortable. they are safer, they fit more stuff. they have more features than smaller cars. they are often quieter.
and if you have a family you need a larger vehicle to fit kids and pets.
that's true, but from what i've seen these gigantic cars really don't offer that much more space; if space/capacity was really a concern family buses/vans whatever would be much more popular. where i live most people i see on SUVs are alone on their car, bigger families just get a Citroen Berlingo <3
but yeah people do like big cars
We regulated the safety of the driver with little regard for pedestrians. The solution is regulating what your car does to others in a crash
those cars are large compared to what japan/europe drives. and huge compared to a compact car from the 90s.
The Honda fit hasn't been sold for several years anyway. The fit was ended in 2020. A 2026 corolla is 3000lbs, and the same size as Camry was 10 years ago.
I'm not even against large vehicles as there are legit use cases for them. I just think they should cost more, be taxed more, and be forbidden to park in certain areas.
They already cost more and considering they have worse gas mileage, they paying more taxes on fuel as well.
I agree with the parking though, back of the lot with ya.
in reality most (all?) states in the US don't charge progressively more for vehicle registration based on weight, and even when they do, the thresholds are really high. So a F-150 weighing over 5000 lbs may pay the same as a Honda Civic weighing half of that.
Right but the comment you’re replying to is talking about sticker price and gas, not registration.
the original (my) comment mentions tax
Which they already pay, the sales tax would be higher and they’re paying more in gas taxes.
Yeah, but I'm with the OP here. It should cost significantly more tax wise than it does to disincentivize it
I like the idea of just having a tax linked directly to how much wear a vehicle causes to roads, because the wear goes up exponentially with weight. Not only would this make oversized cars (and cars in general) much more expensive, it would also provide the funds needed to repair roads that get completely annihilated by trucking companies.
and yet, people keep buying these things to buy groceries and drive on asphalt, so just fuel inefficiency is clearly not enough
the average carpayment is 750 new, 500 used. I bought a new car last year and my payment is $300. technically i could afford like a $1000 payment.
americans often pay like 30%+ of their income to cars. And yes, they actively choose to do this. Nobody is forcing them to buy a 60K F150 over a 30K sedan.
Texas used to, maybe still does. You made me try to look it up and couldn't find a simple source. Plenty of states use MRSP or some measure of the vehicle's value.
Back in the day (Tulsa, OK) my friend had a 2-ton dump truck with antique tags (over 25-yo), paid $20. Meanwhile, someone buying a super-light Corvette was paying $650. (early 90s money)
I say go on weight, maybe some factoring of value. Registration fees are paying for roads, if your monster vehicle is doing more damage, you pay more.
Yeah my state taxes you based on MSRP too. $25 per $1000 of value, 10% of MSRP value after 5 years.
So if your MSRP was 50K, it's $125 forever.
Honestly i'm fine with the value of the vehicle not affecting tax (beyond VAT upon purchase), because there's not much harm in someone having an expensive vehicle as decoration or collector's piece.
In fact i wish more people would do that, rather than actually driving the vehicles around on a daily basis.
Registration fees are paying for roads,
Fuel taxes are paying for roads.
The F350 is the smallest vehicle where they charge by weight. Unfortunately they don't check for how much you use it, so for the 6 times a year I use mine I'm paying $.10/mile - while someone else who uses it for hauling as a job is paying $.01/mile.
That's your state. Just looked and registration fees and tags are all over the place.
If they’re EVs they’re heavier, causing more road wear, and don’t pay gas taxes
Except in NJ where you get raked over the coals for your yearly car tax… errr… “registration”.
It’s the damnest thing; they seem to lose my vehicle registration every year but my marriage registration is good indefinitely.
The higher ev registration fee is to offset the fact that you pay no gas tax which is the main source of paying for roads.
I just think they should cost more, be taxed more, and be forbidden to park in certain areas.
This won't help with rich assholes who want to drive around an F-950 or whatever, but will make groceries more expensive.
What really needs to happen is to mandate a special license to drive anything over like 2500 kg, and only be able to register it to a business with a valid use-case. To get a "small car" license (B-type), you have to pass an easy theory exam and drive around a tiny sedan around a city for 30 minutes (at least in europe). Trucks have different driving characteristics and are way more dangerous, so the driving tests should be way more difficult too.
Also, maybe this?
Oh, also, ban private cars in cities. Like, completely. Cars are so dangerous that their amount in populated areas needs to be kept to an absolute minimum.
Should have to register them against a business or something that is licensed for truck use... Then let other people rent them.


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