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[–] 45 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Nationalize internet service and put Canada Post in charge. It's about making sure all Canadians can communicate effectively and affordably. Penalize private delivery services that don't meet the labour standards (and as private citizens refuse to use them, nickel and dime everything you can out of them, send shit back not delivered by Canada Post and refuse to pay for the return - just refuse delivery), expose all private holdings of delivery services stock, assets, relatives with equity positions, etc. of anyone in government who therefore have a conflict of interest and charge them a fee equivalent to all profits to be made if they vote against Canada post employees. It's a service, not a business. We don't expect the military to turn a profit.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    So, the question I have is, how can we help the postal workers and encourage the government to actually make Canada Post work?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    At this point, by writing letters to our MPs, expressing clearly what we want to see happen and what we don't. For example that we want to see Section 107 gone and Canada Post funded. Slightly further into the future, by following the NDP leadership election and voting in it so we can get a stronger alternative during the next federal election, one that will support Canada Post's workers.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I know that the fed NDP and the BCNDP are not the same party, but seeing the betrayal union workers are facing in BC under an NDP government is really shaking any sort of hope I've had for a party that truly gives any fucks about the people. I'll continue to support federally but just feel so hesitant and pessimistic about it all.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    It's why participating in shaping parties before elections is important. David Eby is a lawyer. Currently there's a union guy running for a federal NDP leather. Pessimism is healthy and warranted. It's why we should act when there's opportunity for improvment.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The BC NDP has been taken over by corporate toadies. It's NDP in name only.

    https://sparksolidarity.ca/2024/10/21/bc-ndp-leadership-controversy/

    The federal party? We'll have to wait and see.

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  • [+] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    True. Very True. We should both be buying our shit back that we sold to private industry and stop seeing services as a "for profit business". It's infrastructure. Make the phone a utility again as well. The current path is surrounded by tricky greed fog is and out of control.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    What I don't understand is, if a crown corporation is losing billions of dollars, someone is not doing their job. Roll some heads, starting with Doug Ettinger, President and Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of Canada Post,

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    While I agree Canada post is losing lots of money you also got to keep in mind that they’re a government service not intended to make a profit.

    Our tax dollars fund their operation, same goes with any other service provided by the government, only in a few circumstances where earning a profit makes sense like.. a government funded bakery? Couldn’t think of a better example.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Why should Canada Post be a corporation at all? It is legally managed to serve all Canadians. Corporations otherwise are not legally required to serve this or that place or demographic. Yet Canada Post must deliver to as far as Grise Fiord. It cannot be profitable while legally obligated to service extremely unprofitable regions. It can either serve all Canadians as a service, or be a real corporation that can make decisions like target demographics and operations, but not both.

    (To be clear, I think everyone deserves mail service, including the people of Grise Fiord, so it should be a service and not a corp.)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    What evidence do you have that Canada Post's CEO is the main problem? I mean you admit that Canada Post is owned by the government, then blame the CEO - who's boss is the same government - for all the problems.

    This is on the feds and no one else. Too many of our politicians are in bed with investment banks and private equity, setting themselves up for a new job when they leave politics. It is the feds you should be blaming.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Are you asking why the CEO isn't held to account for the performance of an operation under his direction? Even if he isn't personally the main issue, he is accountable.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Ok but you just asked for evidence and then proceeded to espouse your point of view with as much certainty as OP and not a shred of evidence. I'm certainly cynical about politicians and their motives but you're not coming across as anything other than speed running hypocrisy in a single post.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The evidence I have is that Canada Post is a Crown corporation, owned and operated by the Government of Canada. Blaming any employee - whether a CEO, CFO or mail carrier - for the mess it is in makes zero sense.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Who would you propose? Do you think Mark Carney is sitting there and makes every day decision s at Canada Post?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    How about your MP? I mean that's what they're there for. Anything to do with Canada Post's corporate plan or operations is taken care of by the Minister of Public Services and Procurement.

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  • Like yes,

    But my MP, or any number of MPs aren't responsible for the day to day operations is my point....

    I ultimately agree with you that Canada Post shouldn't be a business.

    But for everyone saying it is, then the business leaders are responsible for its failure. Which to me means it should be under MORR control of the federal government.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Well I guess that clinches it then.

    You must work in the legal system or law enforcement if you are operating with such an iron clad definition of the concept of "evidence".

    Glad we have such critical thinkers in the army of truth.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Canada post started losing money as soon as he came into the picture

    Look up some clips of what the striking workers are saying and all of them are talking shit about this ceo

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Canada post missed the bus when they didn't find a way to pivot and use their infrastructure to create a delivery system for Internet packages. Now they have to try play catch up.

    Why aren't they creating delivery services for all goods in every city that they have infrastructure in? Using their employees as delivery drivers or bicycle delivery people. Or even contracting to private business and large corporations to operate mail rooms and internal delivery systems. Why is the federal government allowing someone like Amazon to recently create their own delivery services. Why not nationalize delivery services? There are so many options yet they stay stuck.

    If Can post wants to exist they need to find a new way. Letter mail isn't gonna cut it.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    They own Purolator:

    Canada Post owns 91 percent of Purolator, a major player in the domestic parcel market. Over the past four years, Purolator’s revenues have averaged approximately $2.5 billion, indicating that Canada Post is far from broke. If Canada Post held exclusive rights to parcel delivery—as it does for letters—it would easily break even.

    As the article describes: there are a bunch of gig work companies whose costs are significantly lower than Canada Posts. Straight competition won't work.

    Why not nationalize delivery services?

    That would require an act of Parliament. Our last dozen or so governments have been pro-business, so that seems unlikely. But we can dream.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You could force exploitive gig work platforms to meet high labour standards, and even require unionisation of the gig workers to provide basic employment protections. That would help in general because even several government departments use contracted workers to gearound basic labour standards right now.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    there are a bunch of gig work companies whose costs are significantly lower than Canada Posts.

    Costs that are lowered by underpaying their workers. Gig work companies typically treat workers as disposable/replacable contractors doing piecework, not salaried employees who deserve proper benefits and some measure of job security.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Canada post missed the bus when they didn’t find a way to pivot and use their infrastructure to create a delivery system for Internet packages. Now they have to try play catch up.

    Canada Post exists as a Crown Corporation under a specific mandate; I don't think they could just pivot to become an internet service provider on their own

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  • 11 comments in c/canadapost@lemmy.ca view that post
    [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Privatization is fucking horrible

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

    On one hand, government postage services should be seen as a service rather than a for profit organization especially when they’re on the hook to deliver to places nobody else will.

    On the other hand, it’s past time to recognize that the timely delivery of a handwritten note from one person to the next within the week is not part of the requirement of the service anymore arguably since the advent of the telephone and certainly today in the world of email, messaging, and voip.

    The service should be preserved but perhaps the daily door to door service could be cut. I say this as someone who insists on paper bills.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    On the other hand, it’s past time to recognize that the timely delivery of a handwritten note from one person to the next within the week is not part of the requirement of the service anymore

    So, and hear me out, maybe let's make a crown corp cell/landline/fibre provider under the Canada Post umbrella so Canadians can get affordable access to modern services that have now replaced the relevance of what mail used to be.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That sounds like a good idea, essentially pivoting Canada Post towards a communications service model, which could actually help improve the infrastructure in this country compared to giving the big 3 handouts to hopefully improve infrastructure which hasn’t been working.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Better yet, have the crown corp taken over existing and future infrastructure, having 3rd parties renting time off of the crown corp could be put directly back into improvement of the system.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    also someone who pays a few of their bills by mail here.

    i would live to have one or two mail days per week instead of every day. i could drop my outgoing mail off at a post office if i need something to be postmarked on a specific day. the only thing i reliably receive in tge mail every day is trash; bills only come in a few times a month.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    We aren't there yet. We have a population that still had old folk that can't operate a computer or cellphone and rely on snail mail.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Those people and many others probably shouldn’t be using a computer for that anyways with their password set to ```Snuffles1940!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Ha. It always made me laugh how some peoples passwords were guessable.

    We had a coworker leave, and IT came to disable the system, but it was before centralized password management was well established. There like ah shit they didn't leave their password. I'm like its probably favourite beer brand and year they were born. Two tries later they had access. LOL.

    Then some other guy I met was telling his tenant their internet password was their daughters name, and I'm like dude you shouldn't use passwords like that. His response was its the same password for everything we have, even our bank. I'm like WTF shhhh

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  • I wonder how much cost savings will come from community boxes?

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