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[–] 280 points 1 year ago (3 children)

TikTok US to be rebranded as LikKok

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  • [–] 70 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    US media fell for it again award. This is how Trump always negotiates he announces a "deal" that's actually just his initial offer and then calls up whoever it is and begs them to play along and not embarrass him because he already announced it, which works on NYC construction contractors but Xi doesn't give a shit.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Like the backpedaling of Trump's T1 phone to initially be claimed as "Made in America" until being publicly called out, not only by inquisitive people but also by a company furthest along in producing a fully "Made in USA" phone. The T1 phone marketing has been relegated to featuring a "proudly American" design.

    Sources

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Asked about final control of the app’s algorithm — a central question in the legality of any deal — he said that was “being worked out” and that American investors are “going to have control over it.

    I wonder if they'll actually sell the code source... that would be surprising. The best they'll get may be just a compiled version they can't do anything with.

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  • [–] 170 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Is it not already a propaganda mill by convention? I assumed that was part of the deal to continue operating.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Before it was a vague sinophobic conspiracy theory pushed by big tech and other fascists... Now it's a reality.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Didn’t you invalidate your own comment though?

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  • [+] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You should read the comment you replied to then. Or is it your own you’re confused about?

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  • [+] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    You dismissed sinophobia by admitting you dismiss the existence of sinophobia. Both in your first comment, and your most recent one.

    If you recognized the sinophobia pointed out to you, your comment would invalidate itself. It seems, however, that you are unable and/or unwilling to do so, which takes away credibility from the rest of your claims.

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  • I’m pretty active on there and my entire feed is academic and thoughtful left-leaning commentary. Granted I had to work at curating it. Day one was all thirst traps. But now I really enjoy it. I will actually be sad when it becomes unusable.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    …More explicitly than after the first ban

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  • [–] 100 points 1 year ago (30 children)

    Young people decide what's popular, if you fuck it up they will bail for another platform. Hopefully someone spins up a competitor quickly to grab the people in between the forced "new app"

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  • [–] 133 points 1 year ago (21 children)

    Dude Facebook hasn't been cool in a decade and it's still very much a thing

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    It’s alive due to Messenger and Marketplace.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Craigslist still exists. Use it.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Craigslist exists like my totaled car exists: yeah, it's technically there, but it's a shell of itself and doesn't actually have anything worthwhile. Maybe in large metros it's still a viable option, but even in a 250,000 people metro it's a ghost town.

    Can't buy things if no one is selling there, can't sell things if no one is buying there.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, I hate that I had to use Facebook market as it was probably the first time I had logged in in years. But there were easily 20x more results when I was looking for a server rack on there than CL.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    wait until the boomer generation stops using it...

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I've been waiting for the boomer generation to stop any of what they're doing for 30 years. I suspect they'll still be a viable political bloc for the next 20 years. And even then, gen x and gen z will pick up right where they left off.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Based on my parents, I’m pretty sure it’s genx keeping it alive.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Lol, you mean when they die? Yeah, that's not a bad point. They aren't getting any younger.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    the dieing days are here for the first wave of boomers and it's only going to increase.... day by day

    im genx and I'm of the opinion that my parents and their generation are the most selfish and most self centered generation in the history of this country. They spoiled their opportunities to do what they thought was right as young people.... so some genxrs are also pieces of shit but most people of my generation understand we are a skipped generation and the young people are the future. We are not like our parents that is for sure.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I just had this funny thought— so boomers adopted and settled into Facebook after millennials made it popular. And then everyone except for boomers stopped actively using it. It’s kind of their “retirement social media platform.”
    Now you have TikTok, which the millennials flocked to after GenZ popularized it. Does this mean after Gen Z flees the platform that it’s just going to be the Facebook equivalent for millennials?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I'd be genuinely curious what the real age demographic of regular Facebook users is in America, but I highly doubt Meta would ever release those figures.

    Doubt they can even sort out who is and isn't a not, themselves

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  • [–] 74 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You're underestimating the propaganda machine . All those right-wing influencers didn't get to the top of every chart because young people decided them to be popular.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Susan Wojiciki genuinely spearheaded the rise of the far right on social media by giving endless support and exposure to the likes of the Paul brothers, Mr.Beast, and right wing commentators who regularly broke ToS but rarely if ever got banned or demonitized for it.

    She truly was the Ronald Reagan of social media personalities. May she burn in Hell.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    if you fuck it up they will bail for another platform

    They might also start using another platform. But they’re unlikely to leave completely.

    Cory Doctorow put out the first hour of the audiobook on Enshittification for free, and it covers this very well.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Shout-out to every dumbass that thought just because that bill to give the president to unilaterally designate companies as foreign companies national security threats and ban them was being passed during a democratic party Presidency, that meant the ACLU and EFF were wrong and this was actually a good thing. The most popular easily abusable legislation of the past ten years.

    Don't support government powers that you wouldn't want your opposition to possess. They will be in power someday, bet on that no matter what. Especially stupid stupid after 2020 Portland federal law enforcement disappearing people it should have been clear that the powers of the executive should have been limited before it was going to inevitably be in the power of opposition again but nope, Tiktok bad because China makes us feel insecure.

    Stupid bill and stupid people that were, I know ACLU and EFF are against it but TikTok needs to be banned, dumbasses - a bill can be written that targets a single company rather than a blanket power to block out any company from that selection of countries. Of course now that it is law, a willing congress - an inevitability - can remove the country specifics or add any and for some reason dumbasses after 2020 were like - it won't be abused

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    And the reason the Democrats and Republicans wanted to kill Tick Tock was Israel. Because we have an Israel first policy just because they have video footage of our lawmakers having sex with kids and their business Pals as well.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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    TikTok has been faithfully pushing US propaganda for years. Mintpress News put out an article on it. Control of the US servers was handed over to Oracle, who let the State Dept have full control of what to censor.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    If I was in the USA, I would be ready to run real quick. The crackdown on the left is just beginning, get ready for massive surveillance, fully controlled media, reeducation camps, etc. GAFAM are all bending to the dictator. It's not a question of if, it's a question of when and how.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    A lot of us are too poor to get out. Don't think Canada is taking political refugees just yet :/

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago

    I'm Canadian and I don't feel safe either. It's a new era of global fascism and surveillance, most of us wont be safe anywhere. Call me paranoid, but I'm already working on a escape and I wont ever disclose details online. Crazy times.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The crackdown on the left is just beginning

    lol bruh they erased the left like 80 years ago.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    IDK, what's happening now has nothing to do with the usual capitalist propaganda and brainwashing of the past decades. I agree most of the west hasn't seen any real left govern states since the end of the 70s, but at then pace things are going and unless something huge happens, I guarantee you will soon look at the past years as some decent times

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  • I'm just hoping we don't get to the point where I feel compelled to leave.

    In the meantime, I'm looking for parts of the world where I could live for an extended period of time in case the worst happens. I don't think we'll get there, but it's always good to have a backup plan.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There was never a left in USA, buddy.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I remember when Rupert Murdoch's company, News Corporation, bought Myspace. Maybe US TikTok will see the same fate

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I would make a joke if this wasn't deeply, deeply worrying.

    This is how the Nazis solidify support in genZ and genAlpha.

    America is fucked.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    A lot more than America becomes fucked when tiktok becomes owned by these guys. It'll become their global platform to radicalize youth Nazis from one corner of the globe to another. Time to hope the youth outside America are smart enough to see thorough this, but if our recent Canadian election was any indication then they are not.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    A lot more than America

    I agree, but this is just tiktok in America. Everywhere else, users remain on the global version.

    'America is fucked' because this comes alongside everything else - control of the media, control of all branches of government, building the paramilitary Gestapo (ICE) etc. The whole western world is at risk but America is further down the road.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Nazi content is already insanely popular on tiktok. There is Minecraft edits with slogans like "take back the west" and a sonnenrad in the background getting millions of views. Nick Funetes an open Nazi does numbers.

    The platform is a cesspit and can't get any worse.

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  • [–] 71 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Don't worry.

    The Dems are just about to write a sternly-worded letter.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Schmuck Schumer is hard at work, editing his last one, so we don't think it's the same one.

    Jokes on him, nobody is paying any attention to him anyway. He could give the same speech every time, and nobody would even notice.

    What a loser. If we aren't going to kick him out, just ignore him, and let him get back to his insider trading. That's his only priority anyway. He might as well be a MAGA.

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