[–] 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

No, what they said is technically accurate.

The whole point of their architecture is that they don’t have to look up your account — but that does nothing to guarantee that they don’t decide to look up your account.

Since you have to auth in order to generate the anonymized tokens, Kagi could (in principle) track which account generated the tokens and query that relationship when you go to use a token.

Ultimately, if you’re not fabricating your own silicon and hand-writing your own assemblers and compilers, you gotta trust someone, so it’s good enough for my risk profile, but I can understand if that’s not good enough for some people.

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    • Medicare for all
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    • End the electoral college
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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    HN comments hard at work telling you that it’s not a real problem, or at least it’s not a real problem for very much of the day, or at least there are worse problems, or at least there are tools you can use to work around it.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I agree with your policy position. The three options should be:

    1. Crowd-funded, free to use, privacy preserving
    2. Paid, privacy preserving
    3. Self-hosted

    A fourth “free to use, subsidized through data collection” option shouldn’t even be legal.

    But we’re not there yet. And in order to get there, we need companies like Kagi to populate the second category so that when politicians say “but how will they make money if they can’t sell data?” we have examples to point to.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    I too was one of those neckbeards, so I use the term with love. :)

    I certainly think we should voluntarily create some crowd-funded free-to-use services like the fediverse. But we can’t pretend that commerce doesn’t exist.

    People are going to try to make money by hosting stuff online and enticing people to go there and use it. I would prefer if those people made money by charging admission instead of by collecting and selling data.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    Huh? How exactly do you package privacy? It’s something you can lose, but not something you can buy.

    Kagi is selling search, same as Google. The difference is that you can only pay in dollars, not data.

    I agree it’s overpriced, but this is where we are. The actual market for genuine web services is atrophied after 30 years of neckbeards naively insisting that web services should be free. Search should cost $5/year by now. But oh well, 30 years too late is better than never.

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    Learned about it from this episode of the Team Human podcast

    But what is happening in Hong Kong is they come up with a slogan, which is translated as Do Not Split, which is, we know that some people are willing to be confrontational with riot police.

    And when they are, that's going to cost the state in terms of not only resources, but it's going to cost the state in terms of political capital and support. And we know that there are some people who are not willing to do that. And we are going to abide by the protocol of Do Not Split, which means that we're not going to criticize them openly, and they're not going to criticize us openly.

    If we're the pacifists, we're not going to have them criticize us for being sort of like, I don't know, limpid or flaccid or not courageous or whatever. And we're not going to criticize them for being more confrontational. And the thing is that the support is also tacit.

    It's not like they have to come out and tell the media, oh, we approve of our more sort of confrontational colleagues. They just keep quiet. They just keep quiet.

    Understanding that a range of tactics is probably going to be necessary. Nobody really knows what's going to work. But if everybody's pushing back against a particularly violent state, then everybody's really on the same side.

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