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[–] 130 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I have a feeling he didn't mean to kill the blackstone ceo, just a stroke of good luck

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    When are cops and ceos gonna stop celebrating the killing of the working class?…. Just playing devils advocate here.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The CEO killed people every week, just not with a firearm.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    and that dude also killed 3 innocent people

    Edit: I stand corrected.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    One was a cop playing security guard for the oligarchy so two relatively uninvolved collaborators at best.

    I wonder why the news isn't yelling about how sweet, uninvolved, and innocent those two were?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Yep. Pinkertons and armed henchmen are not innocent and are fair game.

    And who knows what happened to the 3rd person? Could have been stray bullets from those two panicking goons. You know how the NYPD loves to kill innocent bystanders with their mindless mag dumps

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  • [+] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Reasons matter.

    I mean, you're not going to want to scratch to hard at Luigi Mangione. He's a few shades shy of a Zizian, himself. Luigi was deep in with the Silicon Valley Longtermists and a big fan of techno-libertarianism.

    That doesn't mean Brian Thompson didn't deserve to have his skull ventilated. It just means you aren't going to want to turn the shooter into a Messiah figure.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I think the tech bros are just trying to claim him as their own. They can't have him. I think Luigi was mostly about volunteering at old folks homes and rehabilitating dogs rescued from fighting rings and puppy mills.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    He shot a Blackstone CEO, yet when I search for him the media reports on his football career as a potential reason?

    What the hell? America is not in a position where the assassination of CEOs needs to be explained. The question is how some of them can still show their faces in public.

    Edit: See comments below. I'm dumb and/or jumping to conclusions too quickly.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You’d be right if he only shot a Blackstrone CEO. But apparently he shot 4 random people, one of them turned out to be a Blackstone CEO. That’s different.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    At first I only read that it was a building housing finance institutions, so I figured he had probably just snapped and figured he'd attack the world of finance. So crazy, but driven by the state of everything rather than by some random sports career.

    I didn't see that it also housed the NFL. Makes the Football story a lot more plausible. So the CEO might indeed just have been a random bystander like anyone else at the scene.

    In either case it's obviously not a defendable of constructive thing to do, I just speculated that maybe there's bigger things in America to lose your mind over than football. Maybe I was wrong.

    In either case it's a reflection of the mental health crisis.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    bro stopped a mass murderer

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  • [–] 271 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (59 children)

    Wasnt really a Luigi style shooting from what little Wikipedia has to offer so far. Dude just killed a bunch of random people and then offed himself. Literally just a mass shooting.

    He killed:

    • Didarul Islam, a 36-year-old off-duty police officer (ACAB)
    • Blackstone executive Wesley LePatner (...)
    • Julia Hyman, a recent college graduate working for Rudin (questionable)
    • Aland Etienne, a 46-year-old security guard (probably not a cop considering it wasnt specified like with the other one)

    Definitely not a targeted assassination. Still better than doing it in a school or club tho.

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  • [–] 214 points 1 year ago (41 children)

    Just to be clear and without taking sides: Wesley LePatner appears to have been the CEO of the real estate portfolio of rental units. Literally the person most responsible for Blackstone buying up US housing at an alarming rate.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/blackstone-real-estate-executive-wesley-lepatner-killed-gunman-345-park-2025-7?op=1

    LePatner, 43 years old, was the $1.2 trillion firm's global head of Core+ real estate and CEO of Blackstone Real Estate Income Trust, the company's juggernaut real estate fund for individual investors.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Wait there's a company called "Blackstone" as well as one called "Blackrock", and both buy up real estate?

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Also a company called Vanguard. The 3 of them own almost everything

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    They manage these huge funds. The people who invested in their funds own the stocks in the funds. Though these companies do vote during stockholder meetings on behalf of their clients without the clients inputs. Thus they wield a lot of power over many companies but they don't own it all. If all their clients decide to drop them and liquidate they lose all that power.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The 3 of them own almost everything

    Do they though? They do own a lot but sovereign wealth funds do too plus, unlike those AFAICT, one can easily switch from say a Vanguard ETF to whatever other investment vehicle they want in an instant. So yes they have tremendous power, too much, and they contribute to shaping markets worldwide... but it's also not their actual money and other economical actors do exist.

    So I'd argue "own" and "almost everything" is a big exaggerated.

    PS: I'm not an economist so that's just my candid understanding.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    There was great writeup about it a few years ago that I can't remember the name of at the moment. Basically, they all own each other as well. They all own portions of every company and together they all own over 50% in so many things that they have a controlling vote in a majority of board rooms. That is a VERY birds eye view of it but it's not good.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    They all own portions of every company and together they all own over 50% in so many things that they have a controlling vote in a majority of board rooms.

    Thanks for the clarification. If you do find the article I'd be curious because if I check the

    and others https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_asset_management_firms whereas sovereign wealth funds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_wealth_fund#Largest_sovereign_wealth_funds are only up to $2T.

    So... if I do roughly the sum of AUM I don't even get to half of $100T. Maybe they have controlling shares (to define here because not sure I understanding correctly, i.e. single seat on board vs majority of seats in order to actual control) somehow in the US with a total valuation under $50T but somehow overall I don't see how. Also together would mean some kind of coordination, which I'm not saying is impossible but beside generating more money I'm not sure they have a "goal" that would imply using said control.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    Yeah, wouldn't surprise me if the guy got evicted by them or something like that.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    He literally had the wrong floor. Complete coincidence that his random act of violence happened to kill someone doing something evil, no one should be praising this guy.

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  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Apparently, when the only justice in the world is accidental, people still praise the accident as a wonderful accident.

    Whether you like it or not.

    The scenario where nobody should be praising is the one where CEOs buy up tens of thousands of houses, and rig the prices so that hundreds of thousands of people are negatively affected by rent increases. Sometimes they end up on the street. Where they die.

    That's the part that you're ignoring as you pretend to have a sense of morality.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's not an accident. There's a high chance of randomly killing someone evil if you walk into any Park Ave office building.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Yeah, so far this basically sounds to me like if the guy from Falling Down walked into the building Patrick Bateman works at.

    At worst, from a tactical effectiveness standpoint.

    If it actually was a more or less specifically targeted attack, it would absolutely make sense that this would be massively underplayed and misconstrued by the broad media...

    Because the last thing the broad media wants, is a lot of pissed off, suicidal, heavily armed Americans realizing that this can actually be a shockingly effective tactic, for those with nothing left to lose, ready to meet God or w/e.

    The broader media being basically a totally corporate owned affair, that really, really would prefer it not become normalized that ... (semi?) random corpos just start getting gun downed in roughly the American version of insurgent suicide tactics, who are to a great extent capable of acting totally solo and are thus impossible to completely prevent at scale.

    Call it the 'final form' of 'I'd like to speak with your manager'.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think this development is already a part of the elite survival plan though. It won't take much for the high net-worth individuals to avoid the street level altogether. The only people actually dying will be their lackies and stooges. And you'll see a lot more autonomous defense systems popping up to mitigate the damage.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Do you have any sources on that? I haven't seen anything that talks about a potential motive yet.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    https://apnews.com/article/manhattan-office-shooting-nfl-nyc-d32bec88dfe208af1a413cec02034a14

    Shane Tamura, a Las Vegas casino security worker, was carrying a handwritten note in his wallet that claimed he had chronic traumatic encephalopathy, known at CTE, investigators said. He accused the league [NFL] of hiding the dangers of brain injuries linked to contact sports.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Thanks, I guess if that's a note in his wallet it's clear enough. You could've gone on any floor in that building and killed someone that deserved it, apparently.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Genuinely, what is your source that he had 'the wrong floor'?

    To have 'the wrong floor' implies there was a 'correct floor', which implies either a premeditated set person or set of persons as a target, or a known location associated with some kind of organization or something.

    If it was a random 'just hurt people' type of mass shooting, there cannot really be a 'wrong floor', beyond maybe a comparison between overall target rich snd target sparse environments...

    Or perhaps it was 'the wrong floor' in the sense of 'the correct floor' being one that worked with some kind of egress, escape plan?

    Seriously, what do you mean by 'the wrong floor?'

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    He was gunning for the NFL not Blackstone. Thus wrong target/floor.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    And what is your source on that?

    I am again, genuienly asking for a source.

    This is a recent event, I am not up to speed on the reporting on this, can you please provide a source that his target was the NFL?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The source is the suicide note. The various articles covering this story almost all mention it just read some of them. Hes not perfectly explicit in the note but it seems pretty clear that was his intended target based on what's contained in it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Ok then, that is an actual source, or, at least a mention of one, thank you!

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It may have been an incidental killing, but her loss will not be mourned by the general public, as she and her efforts are actually a direct and major contributor to the housing crisis we now face. The policies that she enacted are overly hostile towards… you know… literally every fucking normal person who aspires to own a house at some point. She materially contributed to the insane housing price bubble that’s somehow still not popping.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Thats because its not hard to pit home owners against those who currently can't afford a home. People who were able take advantage of circumstance in order to purchase a home need to be far more honest about why they are able to have one now.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Totally. This is a function of 1) greed, but also 2) our lack of social safety net -- which incentivizes us to maximize personal wealth even beyond what we might need, just because without a personal nest egg, there are very few resources you can count on to help you or your family out in emergencies, or during the crashes and other ravages of capitalism.

    Or as Thatcher put it: there is no society, there are only individuals and families. That wasn't always true, but it's becoming truer ever financial quarter.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh thank God. I thought it was the Blackstone that makes grill tops. I kept wondering what they did wrong.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Marketing team did an excellent job choosing a name for the company. You want the most discreet, unassuming name possible for "corporation that owns literally everything and is ruining the economy by principle"

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  • [–] 95 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Now that CEOs can die in mass shootings, maybe real prevention of mass shootings can happen.

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  • [–] 67 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Silly goose. They’ll just hire more private security.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Welcome to the cyberpunk future we all dreaded dreamed of!

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago

    Literally just a mass shooting.

    Blackstone executive Wesley LePatner (…)

    Oh well, at least it took place in a place where the people doing actual damage to society are,instead of a kindergarden like usual.

    Also, maybe it might make more people aware of what's happening these days.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sure, it wasn't exactly like Luigi but living afraid of being offed by some rando with mental health issues who doesn't even know who you are is a fear the working class knows all too well and the owning class indirectly created.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It really has to be targeted to send a message. Not that anyone should desire to do so that would be bad and illegal.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    It really depends on what message you're trying to send. If you're trying to say "executive officers are fair game", it has to be targeted at executives.

    If you're trying to say "conduct your suicidal rampage in a boardroom, not a classroom", mission accomplished.

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  • [–] 78 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    This is HORRIBLE! DOESNT he know that if you Want to Commit a MASS SHOOTING in the United States you MUST Target a SCHOOL and NOT places where Rich People wor"KKK"?

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    So inconsiderate! That CEO had a bright future ahead of him.

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    We sure don’t. Leave that forced and highly toxic false positivity bullshit to the corporates (fuck reddit) and tell the truth here.

    Whether by accident or not, at least one scumbag died.

    Am I honestly happy about it? Not really.

    Happy would be if I heard instead the ceo talked to the board and they had a change of heart and were, idk, gifting all their properties to their current residents.

    And I’m not literally glad someone died. Not really. I just wish they weren’t such pieces of shit to begin with.

    I hope the CTE guy gets help but to my very limited knowledge and barely qualified as a layperson understanding, that’s not a thing.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    the sub is afraid of being suspended thats why. also the shooter was originally targeting the ceo, she just happen to be collateral. The MSMs are framing it as a "mass shooter" to avoid another LUIGI situation(the arrests, public knowledge)

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    The CTE guy killed himself... and no if he actually had CTE (Its impossible to definitively diagnose while you are still alive) he was basically doomed. There are only really treatments to slow progression.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    how bout we don't not stop

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