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[–] 2 points 15 hours ago

I see at least 4 every time i leave my house during the day. I cant wait for them to go away simply bc they're eye sores

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    [–] 63 points 17 hours ago (6 children)
  • [–] 1 point 7 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (5 children)

    Ah yes, the "gesture reminiscent of a Hitler salute"

    Edit: To be very clear, it is a Hitler salute. I was mocking some German news sites that said it was only "reminiscent of one".

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  • [–] 2 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

    It’s called the Nazi salute

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  • [–] 3 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

    No, it's not. It's Hitlergruß in German and that's how I choose to say it.

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  • [–] 30 points 18 hours ago (1 child)

    Imagine what getting replacement parts for that "truck" will be now.

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  • [–] 69 points 18 hours ago (23 children)

    This thing is The Homer, but if Homer watched back to the future and was a nazi.

    From the first demo of the bullet proof glass shattering, it was obvious this was trash.

    There’s a guy near me who drives one, he parks it next to the garbage dumpster and it fits in perfectly.

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  • [–] 23 points 18 hours ago (1 child)

    The Homer was fugly, but it was fun.

    CyberDumpster is fugly, and lacks fun. Even if you take Muskrat’s politics out of the equation, the dumpster isn’t functional, and is outperformed by a Honda half its price.

    There is someone who has one in my area and taking a look at him…he just looks like a guy who has always tried so painfully to be in the cool crowd, so he jumps first into new things, but just keeps failing. And, it’s very clear that he can’t do anything else with it because he dropped so much money on it and likely can’t afford to “trade-in” for half its value.

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  • [–] 20 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

    Are you kidding, the Homer had a domed windshield, two of them! ... full 360 degree unobstructed view of the world .. what does the cybertruck have? Angles! .... The Homer was way ahead of its time

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  • [–] 13 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

    THE HOMER HAD A LA CUCARACHA HORN. BIG AUTO KILLED IT.

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  • [–] 11 points 17 hours ago

    The Homer itself is full of practical decisions (see things well, keep the noisy kids away), my analogy is Homer knew nothing about car design, designed something nobody wanted, and the company invested so much into the idea it basically ruined them.

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  • [–] 0 points 17 hours ago (11 children)

    bullet proof glass shattering

    Bullet proof glass is supposed to shatter? That's part of how it absorbs the energy from the bullets...

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  • [–] 9 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

    have you seen the demo? it was quite obvious they didn't want it to shatter.

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  • [–] 3 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

    You can't legally put shatterproof glass in a car. The side windows are designed to shatter to allow EMT rescue.

    Musk engineers knew this, they were just too scared to tell him it was another fucking stupid idea.

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  • [–] 6 points 14 hours ago

    Hey just wanted to comment about the EMT rescue part:

    US sold vehicles can have laminated side windows that don't shatter open, and it's been a huge educational issue for years because people are using traditional window breakers on them in emergency situations and the tool won't open them. It's only gotten worse since that article, as auto manufacturers are installing more laminated side windows to prevent ejection during a rollover event.

    Might want to check if your vehicle has them. Best list I could find was from 2019.

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  • [–] 3 points 14 hours ago* (2 children)

    I was curious as my car has laminated side windows, and dug into it possibly far further than was entirely sane. The summary is yes, you can indeed use shatterproof glass in passenger windows.

    This can be found in 49 CFR § 571.205 S5.1, which specifies all glazing materials must conform to ANSI/SAE Z 26.1-1996. If we look at ANSI/SAE Z 26.1-2007 (a later update of the standard which is not meaningfully different for our purposes - I have elected to link to it here rather than 1996 as it is able to be found online without a paywall) and go to Table 1, Page 10, Items 1, 2, 10 and 11A, we can see that standards are given for the use of laminated glass for all positions (item 1), all positions except windshield (item 2), bullet-resistant glass for all window positions (10) and specifically laminated bullet-resistant glass for all positions except windshield (11A)

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  • [–] 1 point 14 hours ago (1 child)

    Windshield glass is all laminated.

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  • [–] 1 point 14 hours ago*

    The regulations stipulate windshields must be made of laminated glass, insulated glass (a Multiple Glazed Unit), bullet resistant glass or (except in convertibles or other vehicles without a roof) glass-plastic. It also allows for equivalent-or-higher performance materials that may be developed in the future but are not covered by the current standards.

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  • [–] 1 point 12 hours ago (1 child)

    These ones don't. Many people have died because fire fighters couldn't break the glass.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

    Far more people have died from being ejected through the window, which is why the testing requirements in 49 CFR §571.226 were expanded to now in effect require at least laminated glass for front passenger windows along with curtain airbags in new vehicles. Deaths from being trapped by laminated glass are overwhelmingly the product of improper identification of the glass type and/or lack of the correct tool - laminated glass is very easily cleared when one is both trained and expecting it, even using tools like a standard fire axe or crowbar, but the technique is not obvious and unexpected complications in high pressure situations are paid for with lives.

    With a specialized tool like a rescue glass saw the window can be removed in seconds, and the lives saved by preventing ejection in a high speed impact or rollover far outweigh those lost to being trapped by fire. It's a dreadful algebra, but moving the industry towards using laminated glass was the correct decision.

    If you're concerned, get a dedicated laminated glass extraction tool; I have used & carry with me a lifeline evac pro and it performed very well, although it's absurdly expensive - I recommend picking up one of the many clones of the tool, which I doubt will last for more than a handful of escapes or rescues, but unless you are in emergency response or live in a particularly accident-prone region (as I do) you (I very much hope) will never need to perform multiple rescues in your lifetime and can absolutely use the cheaper knockoff designs.

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  • [–] 19 points 18 hours ago

    Thanks, but I already have a Samsung fridge.

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  • [–] 14 points 14 hours ago

    I'm not getting in one of those. I will walk. No thank you.

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    This Cybercuck needs to go to jail

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  • [–] 5 points 5 hours ago

    "Dear Elon,

    Your constant inquiries have gone beyond annoying, so I'm going to give it to you straight: You will never be invited to my island.

    Look, the truth is, you're just too fucking weird. It's hard enough to keep these girls in the game, pretending to enjoy sexing up these sweaty, fat old pigs, without some grotesque naked goblin prancing around, randomly emitting strange noises like a howler monkey with Tourette's. You'll scare the crap out of my kittens. They're only little girls, after all.

    I wish you well in your future endeavors, but lose my number.

    Your friend,

    Jeff"

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    Can't wait to read the same headline for the Robo Taxi and androids.

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  • [–] 6 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

    If we have fully autonomous cars, why would we need cabs?

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 17 hours ago* (3 children)

    1.. Buy fully autonomous car

    2.. rent it out as an autonomous cab

    3.. use an autonomous cab to get around

    4.. ???????

    5.. Profit

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  • [–] 4 points 11 hours ago

    This works if most people don't have an autonomous car too, so they are forced to rent one. The business case for this is such level of poverty where most people cannot afford owning a car; and then a petty rentier class exploiting them for pennies. Welcome to neo-feudalism.

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  • [–] 5 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

    It's a matter of who owns the resource, and your current state assumption is what oligarchs want to change.

    Just like PCs, they will structure it so you won't be able to afford one. For vehicles they'll use the insurance industry as a wedge as well, and as more and more people lease/rent their vehicle with included insurance(this will be one of the talking points for the owners class selling you one), those trying to not have a rent payment will see their premiums ever increase.

    Think about how insane car prices have gotten ecen for used vehicles in the last few years--and It's not improving even though all the "supply chain" issues attributed to COVID have long ended. It's the same system phenomenon that happens in gentrifying areas with the existing minorities; property values go up, as do property taxes and even long-time residents who own their home free and clear can't afford the property tax increases--it snowballs into additional gentrification.

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  • [–] 3 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    It’s a matter of who owns the resource,

    Yes so Musk wants us to drive cabs as in not owning our own cars, and Sam Altman wants us to not own our own AI but rent it from ChatGPT.

    THEY want it that way to monopolize a service and make more money.
    The question was why would WE want it?

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  • [–] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    If you get in and it perceives you as the wrong shade, does it automatically lock and deliver you to a detention centre?

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  • [–] 4 points 14 hours ago

    Road cone goes on cybercab

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  • [–] 4 points 4 hours ago

    He’s killing the dumpster Delorean right after those midterms. Curious…

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  • [–] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    Are there any official sales numbers? My guess would be about 10k.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 hours ago

    And he still found a way to make luxury cars from the future tacky.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 hours ago

    That's cyberwhack!

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  • [–] 3 points 16 hours ago

    Those things are so comically ugly. Even the most goose steppingest nazi fucks can see that. They must have bought them just to say "fuck you" to the general populace.

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    Going to get so much hate for this. I hate Nazis as much as the next person, but I was in Austin over the weekend and those cybercabs were so cool to ride in.

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    [–] [S] 26 points 16 hours ago

    The Cybertruck was supposed to reinvent the pickup, but mostly reinvented the concept of an expensive public embarrassment. Now Musk is clearing factory space for the Cybercab, which is apparently what happens when your last futuristic vehicle fails: you announce one with even fewer ways for the customer to take control.

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  • [–] 8 points 15 hours ago (1 child)

    It made the Ford Fiesta seem safe

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  • [–] 5 points 14 hours ago

    I had the displeasure of owning one of these and my god it was made of tin foil. Half the shit on that car would break just from driving it. My rear hatch would just open randomly when it was in the mood for instance.

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  • [–] 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

    The main character in Blade Runner is not named Blade Runner!!!

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    And the thing is, it wouldn't have been hard to make a competitive truck that people who have trucks might want. It might have struggled and only gotten a percentage of the market, but at least it would have been an honest attempt that wasn't embarrassing.

    I remember reading discussion when the Cybertruck was first announced as coming, all the lists of "I hope it has..."

    Nope.

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  • [–] 2 points 15 hours ago

    We have the chance to do the funniest thing (think Morbius)

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  • [+] -6 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

    It did not flop as a design, it flopped because of Musk, and it flopped because pickup buyers don't give a fuck about the environment.

    The F150 Lightning also flopped and didn't look like fridge.

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  • [–] 14 points 14 hours ago* (1 child)

    EV trucks don't have to be about the environment. My F-150 lightning was cheaper than the comparable ICE model, and is the best performing truck I've ever owned.

    It tows 8,000lbs like there's nothing behind it, doesn't give af about elevation, never losses traction, and takes off like a rocket. Being vastly cheaper to run as well as being better for the environment could be secondary to any sensible truck owner who isn't towing more than ~120 miles at a time.

    The EV Silverado looks even better.

    The CyberTruck failed because it's a douche mobile, who's only purpose was to get attention.

    The F-150 was discontinued because Ford is a dinosaur of a company who couldn't sell it correctly (or didn't want to advertise it's strengths and tick off their hick ICE buyers).

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  • [–] -3 points 13 hours ago

    who couldn’t sell it correctly

    Yes, it's Ford's fault pickup buyers don't want EVs.

    The EV Silverado looks even better.

    and sold a whopping 7,400 , or 1/8th cybertruck sales. Proves my point.

    The CyberTruck failed because it’s a douche mobile, who’s only purpose was to get attention.

    oh yes, nothing like V8 lifted pickups.

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