▲ 188 ▼ The Cybertruck is dead, makes way for Cybercab says Elon Musk (arstechnica.com) submitted 16 hours ago by vegeta@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 64 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (8 children) If we have fully autonomous cars, why would we need cabs? permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] vegeta@lemmy.world [S] 9 points 15 hours ago* (3 children) 1.. Buy fully autonomous car 2.. rent it out as an autonomous cab 3.. use an autonomous cab to get around 4.. ??????? 5.. Profit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] mefisdo_dot_info@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago This works if most people don't have an autonomous car too, so they are forced to rent one. The business case for this is such level of poverty where most people cannot afford owning a car; and then a petty rentier class exploiting them for pennies. Welcome to neo-feudalism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago Exactly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TBi@lemmy.world 1 point 9 hours ago I don’t want someone riding around in my car unsupervised. Give me good public transport instead! permalink fedilink source parent [–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (3 children) It's a matter of who owns the resource, and your current state assumption is what oligarchs want to change. Just like PCs, they will structure it so you won't be able to afford one. For vehicles they'll use the insurance industry as a wedge as well, and as more and more people lease/rent their vehicle with included insurance(this will be one of the talking points for the owners class selling you one), those trying to not have a rent payment will see their premiums ever increase. Think about how insane car prices have gotten ecen for used vehicles in the last few years--and It's not improving even though all the "supply chain" issues attributed to COVID have long ended. It's the same system phenomenon that happens in gentrifying areas with the existing minorities; property values go up, as do property taxes and even long-time residents who own their home free and clear can't afford the property tax increases--it snowballs into additional gentrification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children) It’s a matter of who owns the resource, Yes so Musk wants us to drive cabs as in not owning our own cars, and Sam Altman wants us to not own our own AI but rent it from ChatGPT. THEY want it that way to monopolize a service and make more money. The question was why would WE want it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bad1080@piefed.social 2 points 13 hours ago (1 child) musk wants to go to mars so bad because there are no labor laws on mars permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CedricWhaley@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 11 hours ago No age of consent either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vegeta@lemmy.world [S] 9 points 15 hours ago* (3 children) 1.. Buy fully autonomous car 2.. rent it out as an autonomous cab 3.. use an autonomous cab to get around 4.. ??????? 5.. Profit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] mefisdo_dot_info@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago This works if most people don't have an autonomous car too, so they are forced to rent one. The business case for this is such level of poverty where most people cannot afford owning a car; and then a petty rentier class exploiting them for pennies. Welcome to neo-feudalism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago Exactly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TBi@lemmy.world 1 point 9 hours ago I don’t want someone riding around in my car unsupervised. Give me good public transport instead! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mefisdo_dot_info@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago This works if most people don't have an autonomous car too, so they are forced to rent one. The business case for this is such level of poverty where most people cannot afford owning a car; and then a petty rentier class exploiting them for pennies. Welcome to neo-feudalism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TBi@lemmy.world 1 point 9 hours ago I don’t want someone riding around in my car unsupervised. Give me good public transport instead! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (3 children) It's a matter of who owns the resource, and your current state assumption is what oligarchs want to change. Just like PCs, they will structure it so you won't be able to afford one. For vehicles they'll use the insurance industry as a wedge as well, and as more and more people lease/rent their vehicle with included insurance(this will be one of the talking points for the owners class selling you one), those trying to not have a rent payment will see their premiums ever increase. Think about how insane car prices have gotten ecen for used vehicles in the last few years--and It's not improving even though all the "supply chain" issues attributed to COVID have long ended. It's the same system phenomenon that happens in gentrifying areas with the existing minorities; property values go up, as do property taxes and even long-time residents who own their home free and clear can't afford the property tax increases--it snowballs into additional gentrification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children) It’s a matter of who owns the resource, Yes so Musk wants us to drive cabs as in not owning our own cars, and Sam Altman wants us to not own our own AI but rent it from ChatGPT. THEY want it that way to monopolize a service and make more money. The question was why would WE want it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bad1080@piefed.social 2 points 13 hours ago (1 child) musk wants to go to mars so bad because there are no labor laws on mars permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CedricWhaley@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 11 hours ago No age of consent either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children) It’s a matter of who owns the resource, Yes so Musk wants us to drive cabs as in not owning our own cars, and Sam Altman wants us to not own our own AI but rent it from ChatGPT. THEY want it that way to monopolize a service and make more money. The question was why would WE want it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bad1080@piefed.social 2 points 13 hours ago (1 child) musk wants to go to mars so bad because there are no labor laws on mars permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CedricWhaley@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 11 hours ago No age of consent either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bad1080@piefed.social 2 points 13 hours ago (1 child) musk wants to go to mars so bad because there are no labor laws on mars permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CedricWhaley@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 11 hours ago No age of consent either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CedricWhaley@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 11 hours ago No age of consent either. permalink fedilink source parent