This has all been computerized since the late 80s. They know if the car has a valid registration before they get out of the car, either by calling in your plates or by typing it into a terminal in the car. But since you are required to carry the registration in the car, not having it is something they can cite you for and make a few more bucks off of you.
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In California, proof of payment for a vehicle registration renewal is allowed as proof of registration, specifically to cover the period after the payment is sent but before the DMV has issued the registration and corresponding sticker. So even if the DMV hasn't received the payment in the mail, if a motorist can show some sort of proof (eg a bill pay transaction on their phone), that is acceptable.
Also, the DMV here will issue one-day registrations, in order to allow a vehicle to be driven from one storage location to another. If a motorist has a proper one-day registration, that won't necessarily show up on the police computer, but is nevertheless legit.
Both of those cases would only apply if the cop's computer shows the vehicle as unregistered, hence why the cop would ask in those cases. It doesn't explain why they ask for it every time, even when the vehicle is registered normally.
It's also a chance for cops to look in the glove box, where most people keep their registration. Or to smoke out people who stole a car and thus don't know precisely where the registration is.
But those are ancillary reasons for cops asking about registration. I figured OP only wanted the bona fide, entirely-defensible reasons.
Fun fact: this never happens on a bicycle
Stickers can be forged. Checking your papers against a database is a lot more certain. The sticker is just there (or out of date) to justify pulling you over.
And it's common for vehicle thieves to swap plates on vehicles that they steal. They may want to check to match the registration and the plate.
Nah. The plate either matches the vehicle or it doesn't. Sure, you can steal one from a very similar car, but then that tag is in the db for being stolen. Not having that piece of paper is one more angle for getting probable cause to fuck with you, and deliver a ticket.
Some cases they don't need your license either, they can see an image of your license by entering your name and birthdate into their cars computer.
Most plates that are stolen are used right away, before they’re even called in.
And just how do you think the plate is matched to the vehicle if not through registration?
Traffic stops are often used by police as justification for further engagement, searches, etc. Any small violations, like not having license, registration, or proof of insurance readily available, gives the cops leverage to pressure people into answering questions without waiting for a lawyer, or allowing their car to be searched, etc., as the driver hopes that being cooperative will motivate the cop to overlook the ticketable offenses. This is why police orgs are so often against policies ideas like making traffic enforcement separate from criminal police work.
In my country, we get asked to blow into the breathalyzer. That's the only thing they haven't figured out how to make digital.
It's an analog breathalyzer?
Let me smell your breath. … yeah you’ve been drinking
They mean digital, as in using digits, as in fingers and toes. They're talking about sticking fingers in your butt.
It certainly does not look cloud-connected, AI-enabled, or requiring a subscription…
I don’t get pulled over often but I haven’t Ben asked for registration in a long time. They do ask for license and insurance though.
This is the correct answer. Last time I was pulled over the officer only asked for my license, actually.
"May I see your license, please?"
"Yes sir."
"Thanks. Are you aware that your passenger brake light is out?"
"No sir."
"Get that fixed as soon as you can. Here's your license. Drive safe."
In fairness, I'm a middle aged white man, so I'm aware that I run basically every police interaction in easy mode.
Still possible to be asked where I am, but less so since the stickers have the plate number on them.
They like to have a reason to make you open your glovebox so that they can see inside and maybe catch you with a joint or some loose pills
Do they? I haven't gotten a paper registration in a couple of years. It's a state by state thing though.
I know they sometimes ask if you're from a different state, and if their system is down in some places, but as more states do away with paper copies that's going to disappear. I suspect you're just in a location that hasn't gotten there yet.
I got pulled last month for some piddly shit, and all the cop asked for was licence
Hell, I caught a ticket for not carrying my registration on a canoe. They always fuck with me because they assume I'm running a trolling motor without registration, despite the perfectly legal numbers I put on the side.
"Your license. Where's your license?" "It's back there on the bumper, man!"
Because how do they know you didn't just steal a sticker? Those stickers don't have anything on them to prove you actually registered the vehicle. Just a color and a date period.
Why even bother with the sticker then lol
These were phased out in Australia like 20.years ago.
I'm not sure it's possible to convey how absolutely deadlocked any legal changes have become in the US. Jon Stewart fought for years to get September 11th first-responders the healthcare they were promised, it was a single page of extremely popular bi-partisan legislation.
The system is as it is because that's the way it was in the 90s or so, and since there's no pressing need and no one has a reason to fight for years to change this particular aspect it will continue this way. Possibly for the next millennia or so.
And there was a recent supreme court decision that basically neutered federal agencies like the EPA, so things will probably be even more tied to congressional slowness.
I’m not sure it’s possible to convey how absolutely deadlocked any legal changes have become in the US.
This is why I think the US is facing terminal decline - this is like Austria-Hungary or the last King Louis before the French revolution. The problem isn't any one problem, it's the meta-problem of the inability to fix problems, and the inability to fix the inability to fix problems.
More than that, it's different in every state. iirc some states have stopped sending paper registrations entirely, while others practically still require women to have a note from their fathers. Somehow those fifty different systems have to talk to one another, too.
So not only do they have to get the House and the Senate to agree on something, and get the President to not veto it, they also have to get every single state to actually prioritize and fund the change across each jurisdiction (and there are a total of 3,244 counties in the US, so that's another layer of complication).
It's like turning the Titanic, but the Titanic is towing 50 boats behind it, each of which are towing dozens to hundreds of boats behind them. And the captain of the Titanic is senile, and half of the tiny boats in the back are actively sinking, and the iceberg is currently cutting into the hull, and...
Because when they pull you over and sit in their car for a minute before getting out, they are calling in your license plate number and make/model/color of the car. The dispatcher types it into their system and radios back to the officer with the owners name, address, whether the registration is valid, and whether the owner has any warrants out for them. They will automatically have all the information about the registration before they even get out of their car.
This is based on my personal experience as a campus police dispatcher in college more than 40 years ago. I'm sure by now, they have data terminals in the car they can type it in and look it up themselves.
The stickers in Florida have the tag number on the sticker. Very obvious if its on the wrong tag.
cause you are usually told to score the sticker with a sharp knife so if anyone tries to rob it it tears to pieces.
In my state I’ve been asked for “registration” most of the times I have been pulled over but they have always meant my insurance verification. They have been able to pull up your plate registration in real time since the 80s at least and now it comes up automatically as they drive around because they have ALPRs on their dash.
Pulling people over for traffic violations is largely a money making scheme. Why remove the law from the books when computers are widely available when you can still add a fine for people who either don't have theirs or have an old one?
I wonder how much of the shitty societal problems are just rich people passing fear and purity to try to avoid paying taxes
It's not to check if it's registered. It's to check if it's registered to YOU. Does the name/signature on your license match the name/signature on the registration? If not, you'll need to explain why you're in possession of the car.
Do the cops not have access to the registration records on a digital system?
Wat? That makes no sense?
"This car is registered to someone else."
"Yes, I'm borrowing it"
"..."
"You must be a criminal?"
But that’s exactly how cops act?
Like in this situation this cop can now say “your story makes no sense”
And then proceed to escalate if they feel like it.
Literally had this experience with a cop when I bought a car that day and drove it with my old plates on it (not an uncommon thing to not use the temp tags). Got pulled over while stopped at a train track because the cop ran my plates and was upset that the vehicle models didn’t match the registration. Threatened to impound my vehicle and everything.
I got mad at the cop and straight up said “alright well my story does make sense, so I’m gonna tell you it again and you’re going to give me a ticket so I can leave” and then he got all pissy, wrote me a ticket and then I left. He pulled me over again about 2 minutes later because he forgot to give me my license back.
For clarification, I’m a white guy and at the time I was an active member of the military (which was noted on my license). All, I’m saying is police officers are power tripping fuckwads more often than not.
This is why if you're lending your car it's a good idea to give them a signed note. Especially if they're going out of your state/ province/whatever. It might not help much, but typically car thieves don't have one.
"I'm going to head over to the store"
"One sec, let me just write you a note saying that I allowed you to borrow my car"
An interaction dreamed up by the utterly deranged.
Just to be clear, I'm not criticising your explanation here. I just think it's kind of absurd how US cops seem to act. Just the idea that you could be suspected of stealing a car if you don't own the car you're driving just seems crazy to me.
The store is in another state? If you trust them enough to lend them your car frequently the note can sit in the glove box.
(Asking cold-weather people: does anyone keep any gloves in there?)
I don’t see how: you’d get all your paperwork wet.
Gloves are in jacket pockets. If I did leave any in the car, it would be in the door pocket, or left on the back seat to dry
But most of us have heat in our cars
Thank you! I went to Wikipedia, the glove compartment was originally for storing driving gloves back when automobiles were open to the air and you needed to keep your fingers from getting numb.
In the era and genre of Perry Mason it seems like everyone kept a loaded revolver in there in case it became essential as a plot point.
I'm not very familiar with the US, but I've driven borrowed cars through several countries over here in Europe without any other documentation that "Trust me bro, I'm borrowing this car" on plenty of occasions. In that regard it seems pretty strange that you would need more documentation to bring a car across state lines in the US.
Also, it's pretty common here in Europe for people living near the border to shop on the other side (groceries or whatever). I can't imagine it's any less common in the US for people to have nearby shops in the next state.
I'm not saying it's legally necessary. It's not. But cops tend to assume everyone is committing crimes, not just borrowing from a friend. And registration and driver's license are issued by each state, not nationally, so the database might not be as easily accessed by cops in a different state. So it would just be a thing you'd do to help your friend stay out of extra trouble if they get caught speeding or something.
No, you can drive other people's cars.
It's pretext to catch you slippin.
I should have said I'm in Florida. We get a sticker for the plate and a paper copy. I was pulled over for not giving a cop enough space on the side of a road while passing since I was merging over when I passed and got asked for All 3.
Sounds like cop is at fault.
Tell him to fuck off and stop endangering others.
It is likely that the law requires you to show proof of registration, so he was just trying to catch you in a gatcha situation where you didn't have the paperwork that he knew existed. Like how you are required to carry your license with you even though they can just look it up to confirm you are licensed.
In Georgia USA ive been pulled over 3 times in the last 10 years (forgot to turn my lights on, thought it was a turn lane when it wasnt, was a day late on renewing my tags). I've asked them if they wanted my registration and they always said no.
why do they still ask for the registration paper?
In New Mexico you are required to sign the registration and keep it with the vehicle at all times.
Half of people are saying they don't get asked for it, but for me it's been 100% of the time.
Never been asked for registration.
They don't? The state removed the requirements to have your rego sticker on the left side of the windscreen because the police access to the registration database maintained by the department of main roads.
The state
Which state? It's different everywhere. Most still require you to put registration stickers (AKA tags) on your license plate.
I believe they were answering from the perspective of an Australian. The rest of the world gets the shits with the internet assuming an American perspective by default.
The one I live in, much like how op is talking about where they are.
In what countries?
What's to stop one from throwing an illicitly acquired sticker on my plate?
the plate lookup they do anyways, where they get all the info digitally
In my state they put the license plate number on the sticker to discourage easily slapping a valid one on a different plate. If someone is forging that they can probably forge the registration paperwork.
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