I'm going to check them (mailbox) out first once I wake up a bit more. I already know I can't afford tuta on top of everything else I pay for currently. Budget is about stretched to the max but I will update with which one I go with.

For email, have you considered ⁨Mailfence⁩, Posteo.de, ⁨Fastmail⁩ or ⁨Disroot⁩?

I've been using Startmail for a while now with no complaints

I signed up for tuta right now and I'm currently moving my most sensitive accounts over but I think I'm going to go with mailbox as well. It sounds good for around $13.50 usd.

I've been happy with infomaniak. If you host a domain name with them, you get a free email too. I switched from Godaddy, gmail, and protonmail earlier this year all to infomaniak.

I'm also happy with AirVPN, but a lot more sites block it than other VPNs, so be ready to deal with that.

I am a mailbox user and have no complaints. It just chugs away. I only use the mail aspect of it though

It's still astronomically better than Google. People seem to be forgetting this.

FUUUUCCCK. SAME.

And a custom domain so there was no automatic transferring. Had to do the obnoxious mbox import rigamarole for two accounts (mine and my tech-illiterate dad) and talk two friends through the same.

Whatever. I'm sticking with it for a couple years, I don't have it in me to do it again.

I have yet to delete my gmail account but I soon will make a new one to run on my phone until I can get a new phone with grapheneos or some other OS that uses microg instead. I feel you on that 20 year account thing though. I think I made mine about 20 years ago as well. It was my very first "grown up" email after my silly kid named ones like Skaterpunkxxxxx@aol and such.

I deleted mine several years ago but my employer just added Google dependencies to their app so I can't install through Aurora anymore and have to go and buy a new phone and a SIM card, and make a new Google account...

Yeah, I don't get why some people don't elaborate. Just before I deleted tiktok and reddit, Proton and Tuta were the 2 everyone was recommending and I went with proton bc of the easy move feature which didn't actually work for me for whatever reason so I ended up moving the most important accounts first and then all the ones that mattered one by one. I recall seeing some people do the same as you claimed; railing against proton without explanation but the looks of it and ease of use were what got me. Tuta doesn't have that "easy move" feature either but it might be my go to. I thought all of their tiers were paid tiers but it looks like they have a free tier with twice as much space as proton.

The way I see it is that proton's mission hasn't changed. I pay for their products, which remain secure and privacy focused despite their asshat CEO.

Exact same. Mine had also just renewed for two years. I cancelled the renewal but hoped sometime in the last two years things would have improved. I'll be losing that in January along with the more than half a tb of drive space I had racked up for being a long time customer.

I use Fastmail now. I know it doesn't have the encryption that Protonmail has (what does, aside from Tuta anyway?), but the alias feature is great and integrates directly with 1Password (my PW manager). I chose 1P due to a blog post by Troy whatshisname a few years back and have been happy with it since. I have 15 days left on my Mullvad VPN sub, and I honestly don't know what I'll switch to once that's over (since apparently that CEO is a fascist too).

It certainly is bleak out there. I self-host quite a few services, and I used to roll my own VPN, so I might just do that again.

Have not decided yet. Thankfully there are a ton of Non-US options.

Out of curiosity, which language?

Good. Not as many features but I'm happy with it. You can make a free account to try it out.

Pricing is available right on the pricing page: https://tuta.com/pricing

https://tuta.com/pricing

On the free version of Tuta, You cannot use the search feature for messages older than a few months or so. You need to scroll through the messages.

The free tier is somewhat limited. Many users choose to pay. So with enough people paying, it really doesn't cost them anything to give away small mailboxes for free to those who need it.

It really does show a complete lack of understanding of his own userbase. We don't want new useless features fast. We want secure, private and reliable services.

I cant believe yens henchman is named bart butler lol

Proton is fucked if this article is true, andy is so obviously trying to chase profits in a market that isnt in line with protons core, and there doesnt seem to be anyone with enough company power that is willing to stop his psychosis

He would fit in better with company culture at instagram or tiktok

Being a CEO is a terminal fucking disease nowadays.

He thinks he's not rich enough, so he's looking at rump, mush, and alt-man, and suck, and going, you know, those guys are really, really rich. What are they doing? Give me all of that. I'm not just going to follow their path; I'm going to trailblaze ahead of them, and I'm going to do it without the trained staff or unlimited funds. I'm just going to do it because it's magic and my AI tells me I can do that.

I know that because it's exactly what my CEO is doing.

I'm basically doing that with my domain. Have a vaguely corporate sounding domain, and just generate random firstname.lastname per service, on a catch-all address.

Unfortunately that just moves the single point of failure to the aliasing service.

I use SimpleLogin, which was bought by Proton a while back.

Since nobody mentioned it here yet, Mozilla has a similar service called Firefox Relay and it's super straightforward and a joy to use. I used it to create an alias for every service (some 400+) that has my email address and now I can just block emails going to any alias of a compromised account and set up a new one.

Tbh I do remember hearing a few providers in the numerous "I'm leaving Proton" dramas in the last few years, and I hoped people will remind me of what those names were. This one does not ring a bell, and in the age of many AI new projects, I am sceptical.

But thanks, I will check it out