Why are HOAs so obsessed with "consistency"?
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You absolutely must give out full size candy bars. What happens if Death visits?
I instead buy many pounds of bulk wrapped candy from nuts.com (or any other place) and then hand scoops of candy out.
The kids love having a 2 cup scoop of candy poured in their bag.
We often buy too much candy. When we realize we did, we usually have a soulful moment where we need to decide how much candy we're keeping for ourselves. Yes, we can buy candy anytime but we're adults so we usually don't buy bags of little sugar pucks.
After we've broken our hearts taking more than we need and less than we want, we usually try to wait until it's the last kid of the night who's old enough to understand but young enough to be utterly bombastically awestruck and dump some preposterous amount of candy in their bag after doing a quick non-verbal "you cool with this happening?" Negotiation with their parent.
Until they realize you just gave them 2 cups of dog food.
The whole concept of HOA is crazy for me
HOA seems a very bad idea. HOA in the US is terrifying.
Sadly, corporate buyout of homes into perma-rent hell is so much worse in how insidious it is.
You really just have to hope against hope that if you are stuck with a HOA, they're already reasonable or can be wrangled into it.
Corporations are nigh untouchable, and that's horrifying.
ATM, the HOA in my neighborhood is very very tolerable. The money (all $100 per year) goes towards maintaining landscaping and the signage. The only "restrictions" they have are no above ground pools (which I 100% agree with and they were rather powerless when someone actually installed one), and if you're gonna put in a detached shed, at least try to make it a permanent structure instead of some cheapo plastic plastic thing from walmart or lowes.
JFC, only $100 per year? Is that right? That's nothing.
Oh, I thought you meant each yard had landscaping like we do. Is it just common grounds, like the median, etc?
it sounds almost reasonable for those weird buildings where people "own" their unit or share walls
So most apartments in most countries in the world? Sure. Not sure why you have "own" in quotation marks, it's quite normal outside of the US where you get "condos" with a ton of fees.
Usually every apartment owner gets an equal say in what happens e.g for planning and financing renovations, hallway cleaning (take turns on a weekly basis or hire a service or hire some retired person who lives in the building as a part-time job), etc.
It does indeed stop making sense when you're not all living in a shared building. If I want my lawn slightly taller than everyone else, that's my right.
because how can anyone consider it ownership if you do not have the right to destroy/modify it?
I guess, kinda, but the concept of "ownership" isn't the divine right of kings. It's an understanding of possession in relation to the rest of the world and other people. There are like zoning laws and shit like that for a reason, just because you buy a piece of land doesn't mean you can develop it into whatever you want and put a chemical processing plant in a residential neighborhood.
Just because you bought an apartment and maintain exclusive ownership of it, it's in the context of someone else owning the building, and someone/thing further owning the area that building is in. Ownership doesn't give you any right to alter something in a way that affects the other peoples owned property or possessions.
Not that I'm advocating that it's right or even a good thing, but essentially the "final boss" of ownership is the government because people can't be trusted not to be petty dicks to each other
Usually you can modify everything inside the condo (walls, floors, ceilings) as long as it doesn't compromise the structure of the building. In smaller condos (4-6 units) sometimes you can change the siding of the outside or the roof of your part too, depends on the building.
A house isn't so different in that there are restrictions, since you have zoning codes and stuff. It's ownership in that you own the right to live inside it and sell it and modify it within reason.
And for shared expenses in fancy neighborhoods like a maintained garden/sign entrance area with a gate. Or a neighborhood club house with a pool. The kinds of stuff apartment complexes have.
Encouraging, asking, request. It's not a rule because they know they can't make it stick. Hand out whatever you want.
Print that email out on a large poster board and display it by your front door as you hand out king size candy.
How about a wearable poster board print out with a giant red NO stamped on it in faux blood as your costume. You can stay at home or walk the neighborhood, handing out full sized bars.
Want to be a real extra contrarian? Build a "candy stand" made of the print out. Add castor wheels and a loud speaker and flashing lights. Finally, add a button kids can slap that shouts "fffuuullll sssiiizzeedd bbbbbaaarrrrrsssss!!! at max legal volume. Roll it from HOA leader house to HOA leader house as the night carries on.
A mobile candy station? They'd never make it out alive. 😱🤣
Ohh yeah, you better be rolling deep in full sized bars. It better basically be a large pallet of candy pretending to be a candy stand. You will have an army of insane 5-11 year olds slapping the shit out of that button for hours, and you gotta be able to keep the magic going to match maximum obnoxiousness.
You'll have to be a goddamn hero to those children, a being of endless chocolate, to really, really shame whatever adult though this was a reasonable request.
I mean, at that point, you might as well put up a market tent in the drive to cover the patio heater, spiced cake donuts, and pony keg of cider for the parents.* Make it a block (the fuckin' trolls) party!
*if anecdotal evidence is permitted, (no HOA bitches in our area) the next year half a dozen neighbors did the same. 🥳
Roving party village seems like a win win for everyone. Maybe build the whole thing on one of those "bike pedal bars" that are somehow the best and stupidest thing possible:

Whenever I hear about “fun size” candy bars, I think of a quote from a stand-up comedian (whose name I can’t remember):
“What’s fun about less candy?”
He made a good point.
If people "feel pressured" over a candy bar, that's on them. Some people have no issue not even participating so your inferiority complex can suck it
It's because someone gave out apples and nickles next door and got pissed because every kid walked away going "awww, man..."
Also entirely possible, someone's a cheap racist, classist prick and doesn't want kids from "other neighborhoods" incentivized to come to their part of town,
I 100% guarantee you it's the latter.
Nothing in the letter stipulates HOW MANY little candies you can give each child.
If there are lots of kids, I suppose some families might have trouble affording big bars, and feel peer pressure, but I suppose they could use it as a teachable moment for their kids. Anyway, most kids are happy with small candy as long as they get something. Even the toothbrush house is worth the walk up to the door.
I grew up in a smaller town (6-800 pop), for whatever reason I was the only/youngest kid in my neighbourhood.
I always took my neighbourhood last, as they'd stuff me up when they were aware no one else would waddle by, the norm would be 15 cents and 3 euroes wasn't uncommon in that area.. If waddled by at 5 pm
I honestly can't imagine how anyone can afford to give out big bars at all. Don't they cost like $1 each? Are people spending $50 on Halloween candy for trick or treaters?
I think some people, maybe no kids of their own so they have a little money, remember what a big thrill it was for them as a child, and they just really enjoy being A Generous God one night a year. Seeing the faces light up. Maybe especially if they're estranged from family so no gifts to buy. I live in a condo and the few kids in the building go elsewhere to trick-or-treat, so most people don't do anything, but my neighbor down the hall puts out a bowl of regular -size (not giant but not mini) candy bars October 1st and keeps it filled the whole month! I just put out a bowl of little ones on the night.
Ya never know, they might have backup candy for when the toothbrushes run out!
"land of the Free"
Not really inconsistent, you’re free to not enter into an HOA covenant and folks willing to subject themselves to being micro nannied are free to do so. That’s freedom ain’t it?
The problem is the HOA exists where it does so if I want to buy there for the other benefits of the location (e.g. school) I have to submit to the HOA. The idea of HOAs originally came about as one method of stopping blacks and other minorities from buying in those areas. Simultaneously these areas got things like pools and gathering areas (clubhouses) while they closed the public versions of these places.
USA - always racist.
Should be their slogan.
I think you'd be hard pressed to find countries that dont have similar racism based things. Europe is obvious, India has the caste system, China is against non Han, various African groups are against other African groups, etc. The methods used may be different (often more overt) but that doesn't really matter to the outcome.
HOAs often come with the house, and in some areas it can be hard to find a house without one.
If there is an existing HOA, unless it's a rare one that's voluntary and not tied to the deed, you can choose to not join only by not buying the house.
Imagine buying a home for several hundred k only to be told by others in minute detail what you can and can't do on your OWN property. Land of the free my ass lol.
I have difficulty feeling sympathy for anyone who voluntarily bought a single-family home with an HOA
No one (should be) going into this blindly. You are free to request all the CC&R documents of the HOA before buying, and often you can request the financials to see if they're still solvent. FFS, if you're about to spend hundred of thousands of dollars in one go - pay attention to the details!
This might be, but I believe u often have no choice. Either accept the terms or u don't get the house. And with the housing market being absolutely shitty, I believe many people have no choice but to accept those terms, cos the alternative would mean getting no home at all.
Literally every new home going up around here is in a HOA, and the old ones that aren't sell for a premium. It's not so easily avoided. The whole concept should be abolished, or at the very least restricted to only providing services for the homes that are subject to it.
Good thing the hoa can never implement new rules or change who is in charge!
Right? Don't like the rules?
It's not impossible that enough people in the neighborhood like Bruce either. It'll be some effort to oust him, and you might end up with the duties -- but then you can make the rules minimal interference.
Cuts both ways, though. Not enough people involved could allow Bruce to take over.
My dad's HOA had a Bruce.
Sounds like the complaint of someone who didn't understand the legal documents they signed.
Every child now gets 2 full sized candy bars and a bag of chips.
Fuck off busy body!
must protect the neighborhood from the pressure of having a variety of candy
and think of the children! they need a consistent experience in receiving their candy
I have a fantasy where i get rich and hand out 5 lb chocolate bars one year.
Or what, they'll put a lien on your house? Bet this HOA isn't doing all of the typical stuff HOAs are responsible for, but they have enough time and money to put together this letter.
Who the fuck feels pressure because the DINKs next door are giving out full sized snickers? If it’s not in the budget, then turn your porch light off. Simple. If I don’t work this Halloween, I’m going to be giving out some good stuff! And hopefully I will not have much left, otherwise I will eat it 😓😭
Well, I guess that means I can still hand out out the little airplane bottles of whiskey to the kids.
the Board
"We encourage/dictate that you hand out small/cheap candy bars only so that others do not feel pressured/inadequate."
When I was a kid, the fun-size candy bars were for me, and I gave the full size to my parents. I got to enjoy the variety without getting full as quickly, and I could scarf down way more of the small stuff before they figured out how much I'd eaten. The full size candy bars were merely a distraction for my elaborate heist of my own candy.
no mention of how many to hand out per kid, leave a couple of pallets out.
What I learned last year is many kids don't like typical candy bars. They want skittles and nerds, and the like, at least here.
All my "filler" candy was gone, and I ended up eating the candy bars myself. I dunno, maybe they all had food allergies?
Anyway, this year I got skittles and nerds, and less chocolate, so I'll probably end up with no chocolate and a bunch of skittles and nerds which I don't like.
That is some seriously petty bullshit on the part of the HOA.
Get a fucking life.
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