This is far too radical.
The Honda Civic is a reliable car with a solid price point.
This is far too radical.
The Honda Civic is a reliable car with a solid price point.
I read this comment as saying:
It seems that this comment section focuses a bit too much on the less important parts of the message, and don't appreciate the context.
My only problem with this post is the implied body-shaming. Otherwise 10/10
I read it as referring to immaturity rather than literal body shaming. Like, the post is telling a girl it's okay to hook up with a teenage boy from her high school who just got his first car. She doesn't have to "save herself" for marriage or even some idealized perfect man later in life.
I grew up in the Assemblies of God, so I was on the receiving end of a lot of purity culture messaging. There was more than a reasonable amount of discussion of how "God has chosen your perfect husband and you have to wait for him."
I'm definitely not on board with the body shaming if that's how it was intended. I just see that there's more than one way to interpret that particular phrase. I choose to go with the more figurative version, which apparently puts me in the minority.
Part 4 is the most important.
Kind of like a "fuck around find out", except it's more of a , "fuck around and systemically dismantle your oppressors" kinda thing
He's not taking, he's giving her a ride on the dick and in the Honda civic. Focus on the giving not the taking.
Yes, he's giving her a UTI.
Thats why you hammer safe sex into them and that casual encounters are worth your consideration as well. This isn't a one time discussion, it should be ongoing. It helps if you treat sex like something normal so the kids don't feel stupid putting on a condome and respect EVERYBODY not just the "good girls" that
Eh. Good message wrapped up in weird body shaming, class shaming, vaguely misandrist 'rhetoric'.
This aint it. It's close to it. They're the same aisle. But it aint it.
I'm also not convinced that teaching your kids that sex is a non event is a good idea either.
Also I'm confused about what's wrong with the Honda civic, if you got one with all the optional extras it would be quite expensive, not that matters, but it's just a weird vehicle to have chosen to indicate lack of money. Should have gone with something like a Nissan Micra, it would have still been the stupid take, but at least it would have made sense.
I see it kinda the same way as anything else, say, riding a bicycle: something normal, that is likely going to be part of your life and that you'll enjoy doing, but don't really need to if you don't want.
Sure you'll remember your first bike fondly (or not) but you can have others and your most memorable memories are most likely from the trips you'll take later.
They’re telling on themselves. 🙂
The Civic is illustrating how mundane the event was, in contrast to the people who want beds of rose pedals and candles for their first time.
Civics catch a lot of strays due to the sheer number of them and how long those things last. The drive train can literally outlast the body work. So there are a whole lot of used Civics on the road being driven by "poor" people who can't afford better.
Well poor is a pretty loose term these days so I'm unsure if it'd apply to me but my girl Gracy (2012 EX) has taken me across the country 3 times, been a makeshift tent after saving me from mountain lions and made me basically invisible to cops for her whole 360k miles, costing me nothing but oil, spark plugs, brake pads and a window regulator....and gas..... When she dies I will drop a whole ass new engine in her with my own bare fukkin hands. They sure knew how to make em
A rusted-out civic is often driven by two type of people - poor people who can't afford better, or multi-millionaires that won't spend money on anything more than that.
Yeah, it's the type of post I'd privately nod+caveat if a friend made it, but not the type of post I'm sharing everywhere.
The wrong kind of person is going to love that OOP is body-shaming and poverty-shaming because they feel putting people down is fun and/or uplifts them.
If he's a rich boy with a huge cock, he can have your special thing.
"I refuse to teach my daughter about virginity. I will instead teach her to judge a man by his car and penis size."
That is essentially how I read this too, yes.
Just your typical, run-of-the-mill pseudo-feminist on the internet thinking she's making a point while actually supporting the patriarchy by reinforcing its standards and expectations.
And also teaching her daughter to be careless about who she shares her body with, because "it isn't special." ... Yeah, toxic men are going to love her for this...
Hate to break the news to you. But you opened up a thread for discussion, and inside it, you found discussion. You did actually ask for it.
Ever shove a pipe cleaner down your peehole?
Every heterosexual man who is comfortable with their masculinity and sexuality will, at some point in their life, want a dildo shoved up their ass - because that's where the g-spot is.
As if anyone learns about the concept from their mom anyway.
Actual sex ed is, as usual, the answer to these kinds of situations. I'd guess way more critically so for the Civic boy than Pony's daughter, since Pony seems open to actually discussing some shit with her daughter, especially if Civic boy actually gives a fuck about virginity.
...oh, and guillotine construction. Definitely don't forget the guillotine construction.
I feel like this point could be made without insulting her daughter's future partner
Yes. You can remove the exaggeration from jokes to turn them into statements and make a point.
Oh right, negative stereotypes and shaming are fine if it's for a joke
If a joke is going to be offensive it should at least be funny
If the "joke" was about "flat-chested women who can't cook" not being "special," then suddenly you might be more reluctant to defend it as "humor"...
The first time you try anything new, you are going to be shit at it. Why the obsession with what’s more likely than not going to be some awkward fumbling?
It’s just so weird that this is considered a pivotal event that somehow marks you. Changes something about you like a magic enchantment getting broken.
Is this implying that a horse cocked boy whose daddy bought him a fancy car could be taking something? Or are we just shaming a body type and class for comedic effect?
I hope the joke is about calling out a sexist value judgement while engaging with sexist value judgements.
If his penis looks like a horse, it may be worth encouraging him to seek medical attention.
Yea, just shaming a body type, and encouraging a terrible way of thinking.
Women: Lmao men with small penises are subhuman xddd
Also women: Why are men so insecure about their penis size
It's the same woman?!
She’s extremely busy since the rest of us have no individual opinions or agency.
Based on my personal experience with misandry, yeah.
Not all women asking why are men e.g. insecure about penis size, are shaming men for their penis size. As most women aren't misandrists.
But all women shaming men for e.g. penis size, turn around and ask why, and are really upset about misogyny, while happily engaging in misandry.
Some men do it too. Obviously.
I'll have to defer to your experience, since I have never had a conversation of any significance with a woman openly shaming men for their penis size. We spin in different circles, I suspect.
Well, I said "e.g." for a reason. Body shaming in general, but also stuff like pressuring/shaming men for rejecting sex.
I am not surprised by your response as that is what I hear a lot before I start to point at recent specific examples that people are familiar with.
But that conversation would be missing the point. The point is that people actively engaging in sexism are often very upset when the sexism turns against themselves and like to act as if their sexism is not the cause of e.g. insecurities. It is literally the most basic thing abusers (of the type) do.
Again obviously, most people who express concern, aren't the abuser. But abusers like to act like they care before continuing abuse.
"Small penis" jokes are even fairly common even in places around Lemmy if you pay attention.
A common place to see them is in a instance such as @fuckcars. If a member says they saw a large pickup truck driving down the road today, at some point in the thread there will be comments about how the driver "must be compensating for something." No one actually cares about the size beyond the phycological insult directed at the man.
Guys hear this insult a lot over their lives directed at men in general.
I've dwelt among the humans. Their entire culture is built around their penises. It's funny to say they are small, it's funny to say they are big. I've been at parties, where humans have held bottles, pencils, thermoses in front of themselves and called out "hey look at me! I'm Mr. so and so dick." "I've got such and such for a penis." I never saw it fail to get a laugh.
Eh, I'm generally against body-shaming, but when people say that about obnoxiously-large truck drivers, I think the focus isn't on their endowment but rather their insecurity.
And again, I'm generally against aggravating people's insecurities, but the thing with those big truck drivers is that they make their insecurities everyone else's problem. They compensate by driving these giant vehicles that are a danger to everyone around them, often aggressively and with gross smoke stacks polluting everyone behind them.
Is it great that people say they have small penises? No, not really. But if the same people saw a guy wearing a shirt that says "Micropenis awareness" or something, I don't think they'd go all Nelson Muntz on the poor guy...
I'm actually really glad to see that people can mention misandry now without being immediately and uncritically downvoted into oblivion.
It seems we're progressing, because true egalitarianism won't be possible until we can address both misandry and misogyny without acting like one is okay while the other is not.
It's just oozing through the cracks. You fooled them for a bit, but it always comes out, doesn't it.
Let's smash the patriarchy without classist bullshit. The implication here is that only a man with an expensive car could possibly be taken seriously as a romantic partner.
This is typical american carbrain shit. Is there any other country where the kind of car someone drives is even a consideration in choosing a romantic partner? I’m dating your car.
Well the US is definitely the only country in the world where everyone's obsessed with the iPhone and the whole blue vs green text bubble.
All due respect, I'm not getting that impression at all. In context it feels more like saying, "Virginity is bullshit, don't save yourself for Prince Charming--go ahead and fuck the Civic owner with the small dick, you can't lose anything by it!"
So many bad takes in this thread. Here’s mine:
You might not get the chance. I learned about virginity from the foul mouthed children on my school bus years before any adult thought it was time for proper sex education.
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