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[–] 249 points 1 month ago (1 child)
  • [–] 85 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    so.... a payment terminal ? Why can they patent this?

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  • [–] 73 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Probably because it's on a controller. It is fucking stupid.

    Payment terminal, can't patent that. Payment terminal on a toaster? Yes you can patent that. Lol

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  • [–] 37 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Payment terminal on a toaster

    BRB!

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    At this point, it's getting into findom territory. "Don't want your toast to burn you disgusting pervert? You make such pathetic financial decisions. You should give that money to me instead, and maybe I'll consider only burning your toast a little."

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    None of the idiots in these comments or even reporting on this understand how patents work. They didn't patent anything--they filed an application that has years ahead of it before they argue with the USPTO about what it actually covers, if they ever even achieve a granted application. Their starting point, first claim posted below, is already somewhat broad and easily designed around so I suspect if they get anything at all it'll be nothing more than an unenforceable line item asset they can use as security for financing purposes.

    1. A method for operating a video game controller, the method comprising: detecting that an electronic device is within a predetermined distance from the video game controller, wherein the video game controller is wirelessly coupled to a video game console; in response to detecting that the electronic device is within the predetermined distance from the video game controller, emitting a signal from the video game controller; receiving a notification from the electronic device, the notification indicating that the signal was received by the electronic device; in response to receiving the notification from the electronic device, receiving a first message from the electronic device, the first message comprising payment method information for a video game player associated with the video game controller; and transmitting a second message from the video game controller to the video game console, wherein the second message comprises the payment method information, and wherein transmitting the second message serves as a response to an event that has occurred at the video game console.
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  • [–] 172 points 1 month ago (5 children)
  • [–] 41 points 1 month ago*

    Sony patent could let players tap a credit card on their PlayStation controller to rent games.

    • Ftfy, Dexerto, if something can be taken away from you at any time, you don't own it, you're only renting it.
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  • [–] 40 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Sony is basically a patent troll these days...

    I'm pretty sure the majority of their patents are things they never intend to use, they just want to be able to charge anyone else that wants to do it.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    This is your usual daily reminder that each of the tech giants obtain something like 3000 patents a year, by patenting everything under the sun. For the sole purpose that if one of them sues another for the violation of one such patent, the other can dig up a hundred of them to countersue.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    Hold the controller closely to your parent's wallet and unlock this amazing new skin.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago

    You, and YOU alone can help Solid Snake in his mission. Should you choose to accept, the objective is simple. Remove the RFID resistant wallet from your parent's back pocket. Inside, there will be a plastic card that contains the nuclear codes. Take that card, and press it to the face of your controller. Hurry, agent! The world's counting on you

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago

    buy rent for an undisclosed amount of time with multiple options for losing possession early

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    $300 controllers coming soon, still with stick drift and rubber joystick tops that turn into slime over time.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    And if it’s anything like my Dualsense, needs to be charged all the time. I basically use it as a wired controller now and barely use my PS5

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I skipped the PS4 gen and went from 3 to 5. Is it just my poor memory or did the PS3 controllers not last longer? I know the 5 has more going on in it, but the battery tech has to improve greatly as well in ~14 years

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I thought we are just renting our bought games?

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  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago

    When a company is this focused on making it easier for you to give them your money, maybe it's time to walk way

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago

    Like I'm ever "buying" a game from them again.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago

    Ah yes make it easier for kids to steal money from their parents. Genius.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago

    I couldn't care less about this. Every online store lets you store your payment information, so no matter whether you type, scan, tap, or upload your card, you only have to do it once (whether that's a good thing or not).

    The worse issue is that Sony is arguing in court that you don't own your copy of a game and is discontinuing them on discs so you'll have no choice but to buy it from their store. Say goodbye to meaningful sales and discounts, and they'll just remove it from your PlayStation when the rights expire or it's inconvenient for them...

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago

    ....but not own them.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Ah, the same corpo who once filed a patent about having to yell the name of a product whenever its ad pops on the TV.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago

    Tap HERE to Rent

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago

    And once the barrier to payment is that low, well, microtransactions in games naturally follow.

    • "Tap your card now for a character boost for this boss fight"
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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago

    Next it'll be Mountain Dew verification cans

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Somebody explain the appeal of consoles in 2026 to me. I can easily connect any controller to my PC, and get games at half the price for it?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    As someone who contemplates getting either a PC or PS5 for playing FF7 Remake trilogy: a used ps5 goes for around 250€ - 400€

    A PC that runs the games at medium settings costs... Well, at least double that. A used RX 6700 XT alone is almost the price of the whole console. And that's just the GPU, I haven't even looked the RAM prices... Then add CPU, motherboard, SSD...

    So the appeal is price.

    Edit: RX 6700 XT is the official recommended GPU for running Rebirth at medium settings

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)
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    Yes and no. You can still get a mini pc or even a laptop with 16gb of ram and a 256-512 ssd for 500ish. It won’t have as much graphics horsepower as a ps5, but it’ll be enough to play a lot of games at 1080p 60fps or use resolution scaling etc. games are significantly cheaper on pc as well.

    There was a deal for a 5060ti and 16gb of ram complete build for like 1200. That’s not that terrible vs a ps5 pro brand new.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    Makes it even easier for kids to use their parents credit cards. What a service!

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    First of all how much easier can it get? I just have my paypal or venmo saved and can't even remember the last time I needed to update it, it always works and always there.

    Second if anything it should be on the console not the controller. Its just another thing that will drain my battery and for something that will never get used. If its on the system i could care less. Will there be options to buy without it?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Yeah I understand the hate but this is a nothingburger when it comes to micro transactions. They can already milk us for all we have with ease. Sounds more like patent abuse honestly. But as far as scummy practices, this doesn't really make them any worse than they already are.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago*

    basically patent on theft. make it easier for stupid people to bankrupt themselves while brainwashing them.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Remember when iCloud purchases on kids iPad exceeded like 2k$.. well we will see a vulnerability and hackers taking advantage of second hand controllers market with cc info being leaked.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Sony already had that happen once. A dog mangled its owners controller and racked up a whole $8 in charges. Possibly more but that's all I could find in the article.

    On the plus side now your kid won't have to beg you for VBucks or whatever. /s

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    [–] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    As store payment? sure, why not, include fancy terminal in gamepad... totally won't increase price of device, like we lack options to pay in internet, but having one more, ok...

    U don't mean [pay to continue], [buy in-game currency], [pay to skip ad mid boss fight] or [pay to gain access to next stage without waiting for stamina]? not at all... suuuuureeeeee...

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    If implemented properly this would actually be an improvement:

    • user has to authorize each purchase by tapping the card someone without the card can't buy on the user's behalf
    • payment data doesn't have to be stored so no payment data they can lose
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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    But children don't have credit cards...

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    This initially sounds horrible, but really is it much different from just typing in the details? Result is the same.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    My concern is buying a used controller with this. How would I be assured my credit card details arent being stolen bc the guy on facebook marketplace "made some adjustments"

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    If the controller is storing the details then yes that's a big problem. I would hope it would just put the details in RAM long enough to send them and either the memory gets overwritten or all the memory is erased when the controller is off.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    You better hope all the kids' parents keep their credit cards locked up in a faraday cage. All it takes is waving the controller past, and the charge is made. It's a lot different than having to take the card out and type in the numbers.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    My point is, it's hard to read the credit card numbers when they're not visible inside a wallet or pocket. It's the difference between having to ask to use the credit card and just using it without the parent noticing (until it shows up on the bill). Point-of-sale equipment to charge credit cards by tap aren't exactly something people leave their kids unattended with.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    This would be kinda crazy to happen by accident. The person would have to be in the cart and have the card accidentally register. You can also set a PIN or require password entry before purchases are made as an already existing security measure. Those things would protect this as well. Idk if theyre automatically set up on a child account but I hope so

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    I wonder if someone could trigger it by sitting on the controller or tapping it against someone's wallet pocket. Doesn't matter, because I'm done with PlayStation and Sony, despite having never owned one myself.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    I did wonder about that. I'd assume no for sitting as my card doesn't work until it's like half an inch from the scanner. For the wallet tap there's also simple software solutions like needing to opt IN to the controller pay and needing to confirm paying via controller on the console with a couple second timer before dismissing to avoid someone also confirming by accident. I think it's a fairly useless feature but it's neat in concept

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    call me when you can pirate games with playstation controller

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    Mother distraught at 9 year old son buys $432,000 on Playstation Store with credit card taken from purse.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    Sony turning the PS into a P. O. S.

    No, not sale.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Do you need a patent for that? Can you even patent something so silly and trivial?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    I took an existing thing and put it inside another existing thing. That's a novel idea, right?

    We could put card terminals in everything! Put card terminals in the fridge to pay for food?

    I can't think how this is any better than just using the card you already saved on the account. Even from their point of view, this is an extra step in the payment process.

    That's why all these microtransactions are in their own made-up currency.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    I may very well buy this controller in the future, but it would be for playing on PC, so that feature would go unused.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    The way Sony are moving I wouldn't be surprised if Xbox retake console superiority, Sony seems terrified of PC and Xbox has merged with it, along with Sony standing firm on your purchased games not being yours.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Retake? They never had it, they've always been the also ran behind Nintendo and Sony in sales. Only 360 came close to second place in that generation.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    For most of the generation, 360 was ahead of the PS3. It came out an entire year before the PS3, which helped it become more popular than any other generation of Xbox. PS3 overtook it like a year before the xbone and ps4 were released.

    And while technically Wii was in first place, they were never running in the same competition. You needed a Wii for Nintendo exclusives and at the same time, couldn't play a lot of the other games on it, or if you could, you had to put up with significantly worse performance. Wii+PS or Wii+Xbox was a much more common combination to own than PS+Xbox for a reason.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Put your credit card to the controller to resume playing.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Honestly, 2 points:

    • Actually surprised this was not a PS5 launch feature

    • Not a bad idea really. Could cut down on some forms of scam, if you had to use a physical object instead of a bunch of numbers saved on your computer.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    rent

    Sonys thing not mine.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Anybody else want to ditch society and go out in the wilderness and create a combine?

    The billionaires are turning us into powerless mindless serfs.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Nintendo already have NFC readers on their controllers, so they could potentially challenge this.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    doesnt the store save the card data? i dont get it.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Why does Sony keep deciding to do comically user hostile things?

    Is it their current console domination and PC prices? I think long term they’re fucking tensioned over hard.

    But also, why would you need this when the console already has your credit card? This is more annoying.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    To RENT games

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    and by tap we mean walk past.

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  • IIRC Nintendo already did something similar, though only in Japan. And there was a game using that as input. Not credit cards thought, would be interesting to go into debt...

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