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[–] [S] 57 points 3 months ago

Based on what I've been seeing lately, we're doing just fine. They should keep them off the shelves.

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  • [–] 49 points 3 months ago

    American here, don't give in to the asshole.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    Unfortunately the death of CUSMA would destroy many Canadian small businesses, my own included. Nobody would buy my product if it suddenly shot up 20%-50% in price, even though there's no American alternative.

    I'd rather we keep the fight up, but if we can get some leverage and buy time for US politics to shift, it'll probably be worth it.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    US politics isn’t going to shift. This is just the beginning. You should base your business decisions on that.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    The political polls seem to disagree with you.

    Thankfully it's just a passion side project for me, I'm willing to take the loss and close it down if I need to. Many Canadians aren't so lucky.

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  • [–] 39 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Albertan here. Despite our government putting US booze back on the shelves a year ago, and despite being the most US-loving, redneck province in the country, US alcohol sales are down about 70% across rhe board.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Now if only you didn't vote in fascist traitors.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Agreed. Believe me, I've been fighting as hard as I can against the UCP.

    And now Kenney is trying to pretend he supports Canadian unity, after a few years away from his dumpster fire.

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  • [–] 33 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Has there been any comment from provincial governments on this? The alcohol bans aren't federal and the Canadian government really has no say. Keeping the bans in place also appears overwhelmingly popular across the country. Sixty-nine (*high five*) percent are in favour of the bans and the same majority say they won't buy US booze even if the bans are lifted.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Canadians still aren't going to buy it, you dumbasses.

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Well you and I won't, but I know there are those that will πŸ₯²

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    74% of Canadians in a poll said they were not likely (69%)or somewhat not likely(5%) to buy American alcohol after lifting of American alcohol ban. The Americans might sell some booze, but nowhere near the levels pre tariffs. How long that holds out could be years.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    74% were not likely? 69% somewhat not likely? 5% to buy American??? Not high enough!! I still refuse to buy American produce in grocery stores. This is NOT high enough. So, it’s all good now??

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Nope. Not this Canadian. I'm done buying US goods or services.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Same here.

    I don't live in Canada anymore β€” and likely won't ever be able to afford to go back with the shit yen here and shit housing situation there β€” but I still stand by Canada and refuse to buy US products. Luckily, not only is it easy to avoid US brands Japan, but I can even look at whether main ingredients of a product come from the US and avoid those since we have so many choices. If my favourite brand of Japanese chips uses potatoes from the US, they go back on the shelf.

    The hardest thing I stopped buying are games though. Not that there are US-made games that I absolutely need to get, but because I don't want to use Steam. Even though they're a pretty good company, I'd still rather not spend money on a US platform willingly. Surprisingly, I got shit on for having this stance in one of the games community on lemmy.ca.

    Is it hard to stay away from US goods and services when you live in Canada? All my friends and family hate Trump, but they don't seem to have a hard boycott stance like me and I assumed it's because it's really difficult to do without paying a huge premium.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    It can be quite difficult, but not impossible to stay away from US goods in Canada. Given our geopolitical closeness, truly buying nothing from the US is likely functionally impossible. Somewhere down/up the chain there will be someone using imported things to make the goods you buy.

    Me personally, I don't sweat it too much. I buy Canadian when I can, but I don't kill myself over it. The one big thing I draw the line at is foods, I'm not really in a position to be buying more expensive food over morals. If the US bag of carrots are cheaper, I'm buying them. I do however choose the Canadian option if given the chance, and have been having great fun exploring what Canadian alternatives/products are available.

    The real hit in all this is the business owners of Canada. I've spoken to quite a few people who do little side businesses and it's largely impossible to sell to the US with the tariffs. Vice versa too, I sometime go on ebay to buy vintage enamel pins, and its just not realistic to drop like $30 on one pin, with most of it being tariffs. It's somehow cheaper to get pins from Britain and France on ebay than from the US now. This is just a small anecdote of the situation of course, but you can imagine how it effects everything else in the economy small and large. I worry that if we return to the status quo, we will be simply economically domesticated by the US.

    Big respect on not buying games on steam. Personally if its not on steam, I'm not buying the game. The only exceptions I've ever made was for technically Minecraft, Star Sector, and Vintage Story.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I guess when you've preemptively announced that you're not going to retaliate against the illegal tariffs in any way that would get their attention, such as putting export duties on petroleum products, you end up with little choice other than to give them whatever they want.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago

    While this won't make a huge practical difference (can't force people to buy the stuff), capitulating to Trump only lets him take another step forward. He will never concede ground or come to an agreement. He's a bully, and giving him what he wants will never be enough.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    This might actually be a genius malicious compliance play, seeing how the boycotts of American made goods and alcohol are largely a grassroots movement by the citizens.

    Appeasing the US by allowing their alcohol back on the shelves, only for it to largely sit there as unmoving product would definitely be a great way to honour the contract without reducing the impact of the message.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

    The issue with that is, by the time the US liquor is sitting on the shelf for sale the US producers already got paid. The liquor is first bought by provincial distributors, even in Alberta via the AGLC, and then sold to the public from government stores, or sold to private liquor stores who then sell to the public. So if that US liquor hits the shelf and we boycott it, it's either our provincial governments or local liquor stores that take the hit. That's why the provincial level bans are angering the US liquor industry so much.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    They'll make the money on Canadian booze as the USA stuff slowly sells. Alberta already started selling US stuff in June since they are privatized distribution and not provincial--and want to join the USA

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Appeasing the US by allowing their alcohol back on the shelves

    Except that we should have learned by now that trying to appease a country who won't honour their own agreements is pointless.

    What guarantees can there be that the US won't just reneg again after we appease them again?

    They should have to demonstrate some level of trustworthiness before we even think about backing down.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    The gov may lift the ban, and put the bottles back on the shelves; but we're still not buying it.

    Elbows up motherfuckers.

    /edit: I should also note; each province enacted their own ban. It's not up to the federal government whether we lift the bans, each province would have to agree separately.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    Are these the same sources saying they've most got a deal with Iran?

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago

    Spineless banker

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    Fuck that, wait him out. He leaves office on his feet in 2 years or in a box sometime before.

    Making the point that Canada does not take shit from the USA is more important than padding corporate pockets.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    Bending and spreading is not how you deal with bullies... just saying.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    What booze ban?

    We Canadians simply fucking refuse to drink (or eat or use, for that matter) American products because the USA is a fucked up third world banana republic

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago*

    The lcbo, which is one of the world's largest alcohol customers, has not bought American liquor since march 2025.https://www.lcbo.com/content/lcbo/en/corporate-pages/lcbo-response-to-u-s--tariffs--q-a.html

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Okay but what do we have to do to stop selling in their market and stop their products from entering ours?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Their is no official booze ban in Canada. While some products were eventually removed from the shelves this was more a citizens grassroots action, not an official act.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    No, it will be a grassroots action only if people leave US booze on the shelves.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Do you see empty space in the shelves for the US booze. Local stores have no obligation to remove stock and fill it with US stock. Further in Ontario they already have a large catalogue of special order items not stocked in all stores.

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