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[–] 98 points 3 months ago (19 children)

Hey! I'm in that list and I have no clue what any of this is about 🙂

What the hell is Tesseract?

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  • [–] 55 points 3 months ago (18 children)

    It’s really just a custom ui/frontend that admins can run for their lemmy/(piefed too?) instances.

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  • [–] 71 points 3 months ago (17 children)

    Well, I quickly read through that list and I'll say this: considering the insane amount of stuff that gets silently filtered out, whoever views Lemmy through that thing must think it's pretty quiet 🙂

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  • [–] 85 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    And that’s a large part of the issue. The frontend doesn’t actually disclose this blocklist at all. In fact, it actively takes steps to obfuscate things and make it appear as if the blocklist doesn’t exist at all.

    For example, attempting to view a blocked instance shows a generic network error, rather than a “this instance is being blocked by your frontend” error. And blocked users aren’t simply flagged and/or collapsed. They’re entirely hidden, as if they don’t exist at all. So someone using this as their primary frontend wouldn’t even know that they’re missing entire posts and/or comment chains, because anything from the blocked users is simply gone.

    Additionally, the blocklist is downloaded (in plaintext, over http) when the frontend is booted, so it’s not a file that gets updated with the git version updates. Meaning the dev can silently update it even if users haven’t pulled new versions. Simply rebooting your frontend would be enough to pull an updated blocklist. This gives the dev an extreme amount of censorship power, because they can effectively change users’ configs without any action on the users’ part.

    It was only originally discovered because the admin for db0 used the frontend. And notably, db0 is on the block list. They were previously using an old version of the frontend that didn’t include the hidden blocklist yet. They updated their Lemmy stack a little while ago, and suddenly their entire frontend was broken (the entire feed was completely empty) and showing a generic version incompatibility error.

    After lots of troubleshooting, the db0 admin eventually discovered that the frontend was downloading a hidden blocklist and automatically blocking the instance that it was running on. Because when they updated their stack, the new version of Tesseract included the secret blocklist. So it downloaded the blocklist when it booted up, found that db0 was on the list, and silently hid every single post because they were all from a blocked instance. This resulted in a completely empty feed.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Considering the amount of effort put into the blocklist by the Tesseract dev to keep it hidden, you would think they would have included an exception if it was running on a blocked instance to help keep it hidden.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago

    Don’t give them ideas, it’ll be harder to find the next one.

    I guess the lesson here is “compile from the source repo and code review before you install a new frontend”

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (12 children)

    Yup, and this is just speculation, but I guess it’s supposed to be an anti-spam thing, but it targets a lot of people/communities/instances that post actually good content

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  • [–] 40 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    It’s not anti spam at this point. No one obfuscates something that much for antispam.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I'm on the list and I've never even posted anything. I do comment a decent amount, though, but I wouldn't consider any of it to be spam.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    but I guess it’s supposed to be an anti-spam thing

    Oh my God, I swear some people will just never get it.

    No dude, this isn't just someone trying to block spam, this is ideologically targeted to silently remove specific viewpoints from people who use the stylesheet without disclosing that they're doing that.

    This obviously has nothing to do with spam. Keep giving people like this the benefit of the doubt, and see where it leads us.

    Edit: I just saw your pfp... Were you aware that this blocked the entirety of Blahaj? The de facto trans instance?

    Try justifying that as anti-spam.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Oh, whoa, I did not see that. From what I had seen I could have sworn that it had general political blocking. That’s my bad!

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    I don’t think it’s anti-spam. It looks pretty much like a personal blocklist, it blocks a lot of users that have political views that the tess dev doesn’t agree with. It blocks political keywords often used by certain ideologies that I guess the dev doesn’t agree with, for example, no ones blocking “neoliberal” as a keyword because of spam.

    This looks entirely like a personal blocklist which is completely fine, but secretly adding it to the frontend is v dubious…

    It’s a shame I think the dev is a good person from the convos I’ve had with them, but this crosses a bit of a line…

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  • [–] 70 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Wow, this dev must be an absolute chud, in which case I'm honored to have triggered them so. Tongue punch my fartbox, loser.

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  • [–] 52 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    There's a user regex section for people across multiple instances, so:

    "^cheeseburger$",

    I guess that means all my accounts are covered 😄, but why? Who the fuck am I to this fool? What an absolute clown.

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    [–] 46 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

    I post leftist, feminist, gay shit all the time and didn't get blocked. They just shadowbanned my news coms. This is outrageous.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Maybe the snowflake blocked themselves from the spaces where you're active.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    I'm on the list, this account is only 3 months old, no posts, 41 comments.

    Who and how the fuck did I piss off, lol

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  • [–] [S] 22 points 3 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Any idea what the regexis mean? I landed there which is funny because that means my .world, dbzer0, ml, mbin, piefed, and hexbear accounts would all likely get pegged under the same name, lol.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    It's a badge of honour. Looks like the cunt hates anything that isn't a basement dweller in their mother's house or their own mother's cunt.

    Also someone who blocks literally anything that discusses rights for people and hides behind 'toxicity' have so much to hide. Maybe someone should check their hard drive.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    "Fuck" is a keyword ban lol. Well, maybe the '^' does something in regex.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I suppose this means the guy in question prefers velociraptors over people, otherwise I can't explain why am I on the list.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Feeling offended now, going back through my comment history and thinking "Why did that not get me on there?" Am I too tame?

    It's probably because I spend 60% of my time on here overthinking and eventually deleting my posts before posting them...

    And 30% writing the posts that never get posted.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah you'd be overthinking it since the dev wasn't doing much themselves. The blacklist was not put together coherently and appears to be mostly built by emotion, especially in light of the dev's "I'm not sorry at all" response.

    The dev is a part of a corporate structure they formed where they're named CFO. They are, in their mind, Fediverse C-suite, and they act accordingly.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Going to need more info about this dev. Where did you find it?

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    "^hierophante",
    "^HistoryLOL",
    "^hitstun$",
    "^holyclergy$",
    "^HomeInvasion$",
    Oh, so that's why I can't find my own posts in Tesseract. I'm surprised they didn't block my whole community.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Found myself. What's this all about then?

    OOOOHHHHH, so this is about Leftist cred. I see. ;) I guess this proves I'm not a misogynist, like the Admins on 196 seem to think.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    YSK I have a personal black list of users that I never will see again. If you can still see this message you’re fine.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago

    Im gonna be honest, I have no idea what the fuck is going on but I guess Im on there.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Shit, I gotta dial up the woke more.

    Human rights for everyone, I guess? Will that do it?

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago

    I haven't even used this site in a year. Dudes butthurt at lefties and it's so cute

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    How the hell am I on this list? I barely post it comment on anything.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Made it! Awesome. I'm on a crazy man's radar.

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  • [–] 35 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    I just want Lemmy to have a better, more wholesome, and welcoming experience for new users, as such I've decided to block the things I think we can all agree are bad:

    • Calls for violence
    • Politics
    • Sex
    • Nu metal
    • People who put egg in potato salad
    • Jerry (all of them)
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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Whoa hang on now... all Jerry's? I dunno if I can get behind that.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago*

    No idea why I'm on there, but I am.

    I feel like we should form a veterans league. Call it Adrian's Heroes or something.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago*

    I did it! I made the list!

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I am not on the list! I'm actually rather annoyed.

    Whose girlcock do I gotta suck to get put on the cool list?

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago

    delighted to see that a username I used to go by on a couple instances has a regex entry, somewhat disappointed this username isn't in there. Clearly I need to step up my game on this account.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago

    Sorry I didn't make the list, I'll try harder.

    The band is great though, they did a fundraiser EP in 2022 to support Ukraine.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Do I even interact with this front end as a lemmy.ca user using old.reddit sytle viewer?

    I'm on the list and I haven't noticed anything.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I'm surprised I made the list, I'm not terribly prolific and mostly post animal memes. I guess I should feel seen!

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