I’ve only seen one episode, the San Junipero one. I can’t wait to watch the rest. I do love some cozy, optimistic sci-fi.
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I like the added level of hilarity in the meme of specifically using Peppa Pig while talking about watching the first episode of Black Mirror. 😂
I guess it only makes sense if you know the synopsis of episode 1
Spoiler: >!The first episode involves a politician fucking a pig on live broadcast - as ransom to get his daughter back from a kidnapper!<
Not even his daughter. He's the PM and he does it to get a princess released.
And it turns out she's released before he even does it.
I have a suspicion that Netflix is messing with the episode order for some folks.
My partner and I were on the phone with their mom when she mentioned that she just started watching Black Mirror. I had a silent freakout moment and half-apologized for the early episodes being “pretty gnarly” but she mentioned the first one she saw was a USS Callister or something else.
Had it happen with love death and robots too. I think if there's a new season out it starts you on the 1st ep of the newest "complete" season, which is really annoying.
Oh, I remember the controversy about that show! For Love, Death, and Robots season 1, Netflix randomly put people in one of four buckets (probably a hash of your account ID mod 4 or something), and your bucket determined your episode order.
Apparently, they thought it would be a neat way to present an anthology series (since order doesn't matter). Conspiracy theories arose that Netflix had sussed out peoples' sexual orientation and were using that to determine the episode order.
Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Love,_Death_%26_Robots_episodes
Its probably because she was episode 1 of a different season not season 1
edit: actually you may be right others are saying similar stuff
The first episode for me was the VR fighting game (to avoid more spoilers), which didn't exactly motivate me to watch more
Try USS Callister next.
Yup, seems like netflix started me at the latest season at the time or something, watched three episodes from the first season...
Not terribly impressed, still, seems like every episode revolves around sex, which is fair, considering humanity, but if every episode is going to be like this it'll tire me out real soon.
Either way, glad to have checked it out properly from the start, thanks for shouting out the episode name!
IMO the best first episode of any series ever.
Honestly, the second episode "Fifteen Million Merits" was the most soul crushing thing I had ever watched, the first episode paled in comparison. Then again, I'm not a pig so clearly Peppa would be a little more traumatized.
I smoked my first blunt before turning on Fifteen Million Merits, my first episode of Black Mirror. Everyone online told me to watch it before Ep. 1.
My emotion was heightened by 10 fold from THC.
I hate this show so much I have watched every episode multiple times.
True joy does not exist to me anymore.
I can totally see that. The episode "White Bear" from the second season was one I should not have watched in such a state. I was quite shaken afterwards, that one might be worse than "Fifteen Million Merits".
I did "shut up and dance" and it scared the shit out of me. Like that could be happening right this minute. Im actually kind of surprised such a scenario hasn't turned up in the news.
Most episodes involve some fictional futuristic technology being abused, but that was one of the few episodes that involved only technology that definitely exists today.
- National Anthem
- Waldo Moment (arguable, as it would definitely take some tinkering to set up that kind of Vtuber system, not just using an off-the-shelf system)
- Hang the DJ (arguable, assuming what we are seeing is just a fictionalization of a bunch of software simulations)
- Metalhead (arguable, as robot dogs do not seem quite that advanced yet, but definitely soon)
- Bandersnatch (arguable that the multiple timelines and everything are just the character hallucinating or whatever)
- Smithereens
- Loch Henry
- Mazey Day (though the technology is absolutely contemporary, it does feature a mythological creature or whatever)
- Demon 79 (while it takes place in the past with just old technology, it features supernatural shenanigans again)
EDIT: Fifteen Million Merits is also barely futuristic technology.
Blackmailing people with content like that is happening every day. Just its normally to get you to send crypto to scammers.
That's another great one, where great == leaving you with a persistent sense of dread after viewing.
I love me good series. Heard tons of good reviews about The Black Mirror.
I have only managed to get to episode 3. Couldn't do it after. Way too disturbing. Would 1000% recommend to watch. I just couldn't 😭
It's like Requiem for a Dream. Great movie, would recommend it to anyone except my elderly mother, am not gonna fuckin ever watch it a second time.
I much preferred it before Netflix got hold of it. It’s not bad now, just different.
I feel like it fell off HARD after season 1. Stopped asking interesting questions in favor of "wouldn't this scifi bullshit be fucked up?". Like yes Black Mirror, you're so edgy and avant-garde, good for you. I, too, think that trapping your consciousness in a digital torture prison forever is messed up (happens like 10 times). Not really interesting though.
White Christmas?
David Cameron enters the chat
I always found black mirror to be like... very kid's first sci-fi. Like, "what if you were FORCED to watch ads?" "Bro, like... What if Facebook likes mattered! Like a lot!"
The ideas aren't impossible but... from the dystopian episodes I saw, there always seemed to be significant obstacles in getting there from where we are that are never explored or explained away.
I think it was writer Daniel M. Lavery who described Black Mirror as, "What if cell phone... but too much!"
That's kind of an accurate way to describe a lot of society these days though, from doomscrolling to phone addiction to social media disinformation to surveillance and tracking and advertising.
True, but these ideas were not quite in vogue in 2011 when Black Mirror first aired. The internet still felt like a wonder full of endless possibility. There was an app for everything. Personal data was not mined on planetary scales.
Yeah. It would be sweet to live in a world that doesn't keep proving the cynics and doomsayers correct.
The title even refers to your phone screen.
It's just a new generation of The Twilight Zone or The Outer Limits, written by a comedian. It's not supposed to be amazingly deep.
To me that’s always been the point of the show.
Take some real world thing and push it to the point of being dystopian.
In the “Facebook likes” one, you can make a connection to social credit systems IRL.
The explanation is applying a “slippery slope” fallacy for pretty much every single concept.
FWIW, showrunner Charlie Brooker says that the starting point for every episode is finding an idea he thinks is funny
The explanation of “how we got there” is all around you. Every day.
and what a fantastic first dystopian scifi those first seasons were (for me)
They are but since we don't get a lot of true scifi media ( I would describe most as space fantasy ) I'll take what I can get
Are you familiar with the idea of parables? Sometimes people just want a way to present their ideas without having to go full-Tolkein and go into WAYYY much more detail than is strictly necessary or believeable. You're entitled to your opinion, I'm not gonna be offended or anything that you clearly don't like a show I personally haven't watched in years, I just think that Black Mirror is (most of the time) clearly more concerned with "what if" rather than "how would"
Yeah, at this point I'm very aware that many many people don't perceive media the same way I do. It can be a curse.
I actually am surprised I got replies instead of downvotes and rage tbh
Black Mirror is about placing the mirror to society (hence the title). If you find the show childish, maybe because humans are childish?
there always seemed to be significant obstacles in getting there from where we are that are never explored or explained away.
Just my opinion but i don't think it matters. Since the show is about putting the mirror onto society and how immature (and cruel) we are, my impression is that getting to the dystopian aspects is because we dropped the ball and allowed ourselves to submit to the darker and physical manifestation of our psyche, which we see in technology spying or trying to kill us, or torturing a person over and over just to feel good about ourselves by inflicting what we perceive to be "justice".
It matters to me because it renders it ineffective. The mirror isn't held up if what you show doesn't reflect reality and, because of what I said I don't think it does.
It's getting hard to keep going with this series. Now it's just full on horror.
I always recommend to skip this particular episode. It just is really disgusting and does not convey any meaning whatsoever. It absolutely fails to be an example for the rest of the series. If you haven't seen it, just skip it. If you did see it and stopped watching the show because of it, please watch another episode. They are all good in their own way, except for this first one. I have no idea how anyone could have thought, it would be a good idea to open the show with this particular episode ...
It's called "The National Anthem", btw. Just skip it, seriously.
The author said in an interview that it was a filter to get the public he wants for the series. No idea if that's post-facto rationalization, though.
Anyway, Netflix changed their entire system so that they could order that one show differently. It's the last episode there.
You mean, he was actually trying to hook a certain kind of audience with this episode, so they would be open for the other episodes, they would not have been interested in otherwise? What kind of audience would that be?
Yes, netflix plays the seasons of the show in reverse chronological order, because it's an anthology and the episodes don't directly build on one another. I am actually really glad they did that. If I had started with the first episode of season one, I would probably not have continued watching.
The first episode hooked me because it chose not to back out of the premise it set up so apparently I am the audience.
In the sense that "if you can't stand this, you probably won't like the rest of the show".
What is clearly false, but that he intended it to be that way.
Literally watched it when it first aired. Never watched another episode after even though it's the kind of thing that should be my cup of tea and I hear so much good about it. Whenever I hear people talk about it I think I should try it again, then forget about it.
My wife and I were like you... if that episode was representative of what the series was like it wasn't something we wanted to watch. We stopped after the 1st. Our adult kids kept telling us though the rest weren't like that one and to watch the rest and we eventually gave it another shot.
Honestly while quite different than the 1st, we both thought the 2nd episode was weak and weren't too enthused about continuing, but they honestly get soo good that it's worth it. A couple episodes still stand as some of my favorite moments of any series ever. Very thought-provoking and moving. You should definitely consider giving it another chance.
Doesn't convey any meaning whatsoever??
what did you watch it?


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