▲ 449 ▼ Elon Musk told ex-girlfriend he needed ‘a legion of children before the civil war’ (www.theguardian.com) submitted 1 month ago by supersquirrel@lemmy.ca to c/FuckMusk@lemmy.ca 214 comments fedilink hide all child comments Elon Musk is such an incel it hurts to comprehend.
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 17 points 1 month ago (107 children) Very mature and educational response. Really shows me I know nothing. Or... Just spitballing, maybe your response was actually immature and misguided? I genuinely hope you're okay and get a hug today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 107 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 18 points 1 month ago (37 children) And again, how is that enabling abuse? How is that treating them like a possession? I'm not excusing his wanting a child army. I'm not excusing his using kids as bullet shields. I'm not excusing any of the other garbage he's done. I'm saying that that gif, without any further context, does not immediately scream abuse. You've failed to give any evidence counter, just screamed obscenities. I've spent quite a bit of time recently taking to teachers and early development specialists and friends with kids trying to avoid the mistakes my conservative "Christian" parents made. One of the common things they've all said is the kid will need time to just be a kid and learn and when they're busy monkeying around is a good time to do your hobbies and recharge. I've spent 12 hours playing with my friends kids, taking them to a park, pushing on swings, letting them burn off energy and play and explore, and seen them immediately turn around ready to keep going. You're saying parents are expected to just keep going then? Not, say, set limits and boundaries? You really need to grow up and actually step into the world and live a little instead of being a keyboard warrior if you think screaming and name calling someone actually asking for an explanation is healthy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 37 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 22 points 1 month ago (11 children) Oh, okay, got it. Your entire argument is you were abused so you're now an expert even though you can't see through your own rage to spend a half second understand what others are actually saying. I'm done with this. I genuinely mean this. I hope you find healing and can let go of the hatred because it seems like you still need to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (5 children) I'll tell you the same thing I tell my closest friend who was also abused as a child and continues to struggle with it to this day. You had a shit childhood. We all get it. It sucks and it shouldn't have happened and it shouldn't happen to any child but it does and it sucks and the world sucks for letting it happen. But it happened in the past. You can't continue letting the past control your present and your future. You have to take accountability for yourself and your own actions. My father did the same thing as yours which is very common for his generation and specifically British men. Come home. Plop on couch. Watch TV. I played Lego on the carpet and watched what my father watched. That in and of itself was not child abuse. This is why you're getting negative votes and responses. If you have access to it, please consider therapy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] postcapitalism@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) You got this Snoop, we’re rooting for you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Right? To assume the pedo wannabe "might not be as bad as the pic" isn't very smart permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (4 replies) [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (23 children) Get some help, seriously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Step 1: Missinterpret a post, and lash out at random strangers. Step 2: Make enemies with everyone by calling them every insult you can think of in your blind rage. Step 3: ???? Step 4: Profit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (3 children) If this is you with a therapist then you either need to stop and actually listen to them (which you've shown here an extreme incapability of listening to others) and do the work, or you need a better therapist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Please, please, please show your therapist this entire message chain and ask them their opinion then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] odelik@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) It's cool. I have never held any ill towards you. And honestly thought it was a bit at first. And honestly, the more recent stuff I've seen are challenges on differencing principles. Hope the Concerta works for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Sometimes it is, because if people know you for dumb shit, might as well entertain them sometimes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why comment if you have nothing to add? Respond to my arguments or shut up. Why run defense for child abusers? permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) Get some help, seriously. Putting the blame on me when I asked my parents not to hit me. Assuming I'm not getting help. Pretending that my anger is unjustified or that my arguments don't hold up. If my arguments don't hold up, argue back with evidence. Don't just attack me. I was abused because people normalize the mistreatment of children. No one is holding my parents or other abusers like them accountable. If you knew the suffering you are enabling, you wouldn't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (6 children) Bro, when I found out someone in our Discord server was in my home country, I personally went to the cops to report her parents, and got told I watch too much sci-fi and to bring more details next time, and was laughed out of the station. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Then why are you telling me to get help? It sounds like you understand how bad it is, how much abuse has been normalized, how victims are erased and abusers are protected. Everyone should be calling out Musk's shitty behavior, not attacking me for doing so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) Because at the smallest disagreement, you are lumping strangers into the same category as your former abusers, going off, and instantly accusing them of being pro-child abuse, creating endless enemies, and making your life harder. Disagreement with reality is the problem. Stop pretending it's personal. I didn't choose my abuse. My parents chose to accept claims without evidence and chose to harm their children as a result. Did you watch my video about my little brother getting arrested for threatening mass violence? It's not just me. He called it a "christ-damned promise." This is caused by trauma. Don't use my trauma to deflect valid criticism, shitbag. All that does is enable this same trauma to happen to others, which is exactly what I am trying to prevent. You have done this repeatedly in more than one place. You are turning yourself into a meme needlessly. It's not needless. I need more people to be more reasonable. Otherwise, life is not worth living. We are being slaughtered and you're telling me not to fight back. Get out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look at this comment thread. Gif shows Musk neglecting his child. Commenter defends child abuse. I call them out for it. I get showered in downvotes and denial, enabling more child abuse. I'm not inflammatory. I didn't start this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Commenter said that there are legitimate reasons to ignore a child. Iirc, they also said that this is not what is happening here, and that Elon Musk is just a shitty father. They are just trying to be smart by going "Uhm, well achthualy". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (6 replies) load more comments (1 reply) [–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago* (67 children) Friendly warning. I just spend all yesterday arguing with this person and they believe that all 75% of people who ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a dangerous death cult and if you disagree you are automatically an enabler of all religious abuse ever. They are probably still salty the mods of atheism removed their last comments. They do really need a hug, just don’t let them ruin your day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 67 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago* (62 children) 75% of all people.. all painted with the same Brush off hate. This Includes cultural or christian atheists, and other forms of non theological religion they usually go out of their way to spread their mental illness You are thinking of zealots. The definition of zealotism is someone with strong uncompromising views and tries to push that view onto others. While you may be unfortunate to live in a place where dangerous zealots are centralised they do remain nothing but a load minority worldwide and do not speak for the infinite variety of personal spiritual contemplations that so many people privately have. I am not gonna continue this discussion again, i was already called a cancer by snoop just for respectfully disagreeing that 4/5of people supposedly are evil incarnate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 62 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago 75% of all people.. all painted with the same Brush off hate. They started the fight. Before bullshit, we had reality. People choose to lie about it and they don't care who it hurts. I'm not forcing anyone to lie. I'm just observing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (60 children) Stop defending liars. The abrahamic faiths are literal death cults. We're all better without superstition. You keep citing the number of believers as if that makes it right. It doesn't, and people are dying for it. We should all try to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 60 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (31 children) Nah man, the planet would be really better off without the Abrahamic religions, if you don't think so, you're not paying attention permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 31 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (25 children) So long as your flaws are your problems, you choose to live worse for some reason. But it is not just religion, but any kind of magical thinking. Like when someone refuses psych medicine because they believe they are special, and can overpower the disease with willpower. You put people at risk willingly by making irrational choices, just because they are convenient. Having said that, I have little issue with Cristian atheism, as it's not an actual religion, but an ideology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 25 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (23 children) That is concerning, given that the actual religious folk's religion is based on an anectodal book, that means they can twist it to whatever suits them. Like the prospherity gosspel. It is so easy to influence people. I mean, that's what MAGA is doing, treating their own religion book as "communist propaganda". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (17 children) Stop pretending that the 75% of humans who are ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a death cult and none of them worth defending when they are attacked with blind hate. IT'S NOT PRETENDING AND IT'S NOT BLIND. READ THE GODDAM BIBLE. IT IS A DEATH CULT. FUCK YOU FOR LYING ABOUT THIS. FUCK YOU FOR CHOOSING DEATH AGAIN AND AGAIN. USE YOUR GODDAM BRAIN, YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT. I was abused because you reject reality. A song for you: https://snoopsqueak.com/videos/fys Like i said i have read multiple but you would not consider them bibles because they do not glorify death in any shape or form. Name them. The one i found most influential did not even mention the afterlife. It was just about a cool guy being trying to do what was right. BY LYING TO EVERYONE AND DEMANDING THEY JOIN HIS DEATH CULT. STOP SANEWASHING THIS. I don’t believe in magical thinking Evidently, you do, and as a result you are rejecting reality so you can preserve your deadly stupidity. Whats is selfish about correctly Labeling meditation a form spiritually? Because nothing is "spiritual". It's a bullshit word. Describe your experiences in the context of reality, please. By not doing so, you are normalizing magical thinking. You are enabling my parents and worse, all so you can feel Very Special. You are very special. You don't need the bullshit. Grow the fuck up and take a stand for the truth, your cowardice is KILLING PEOPLE. Is that a bad word now too? It's a deadly mindset. If this hate is directed at every word that has some vague link to historical dogma i have bad news. STOP APPEALING TO POPULARITY. Just because many people have done it for a long time does not make it right. And stop pretending I am the aggressor. I am defending real life against your fake, stupid bullshit. I am not and have never defended a death cults Liar, you've done it all throughout these comments and you're still doing it. no one of the many people i know is in a death cult Liar, every christian you know is. and it certainly is not what the majority christians are about. Liar, it's the definition of christ. Citing a bible that is not the one they read/believe in is not going to change that. The bible describes a death god, encourages everyone to join a death cult, and real people really believe it. What part of this are you not getting? STOP REJECTING EVIDENCE, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (15 children) Insulting me for having a nuance that you fail to understand. Calling me a liar while i have been nothing but honest It's not nuanced, you're defending death cults. You are lying, and I highlighted each lie. Contrary to popular belief, lies do not require intent. If someone else told a lie and you repeat it earnestly, I'm still hearing a lie. It is blind because you refuse to see the difference between a book writen by one philosopher in one time versus one writen by a different philosopher in another time. It's not blind, because I see the text of the bible explicitly commanding abuse. You're pretending it doesn't exist, that it doesn't cause harm, while people are dying as a result of others' belief in it. There is no such thing as a singular bible. We are talking about christianity. The christian bible. There is no such thing as a singular christian identity (which i am not part of) It's in the name. They believe in christ, magical savior human sacrifice whom they must submit to if they want to avoid punishment. You seem to believe that there and that it somehow has the “magic” to turn people evil but i will tell you all the evils are man made and burning books is not going to help you at all. Read the bible and stop putting words in my mouth. I'd be happy if the damn thing had a "fiction" label, but many real human beings are pretending it is true. No i do not know the name of the book i read 22 years ago. Also its not in English. Useless, then. Focus on my points. You dont get to dictate what words mean, and if you try you will only find that everyone will stop listening to you. Neither do you. Think really hard about what "christianity" means, what "christ" is in context. It's a death cult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (13 children) More delusional and hateful then the average religious person. Mr. Spiritual thinks I'm delusional. MAGIC ISN'T REAL, DUMB FUCK. I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them. I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you're a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer. Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them. No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that. The ones who try to find a nicer "interpretation" are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly. You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad” HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does. Christ is the character central to the philosophy. That's the problem. What is "christ"? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to. The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy. That's really fucking stupid. "Christ" is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he's also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies. Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (5 replies) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (3 children) No doubt painting it all with one brush is reductionist, there are good people in all corners of the world. What I would say is, even the genuinely good actors practicing these faiths are all acting as cover for the monsters, whether they want to or not. The most devout people should rather denounce their faith as to not enable the evil that gets perpetrated in their name. Of course that won't happen, but I don't know how else we can reconcile with the idea that these faiths are far, far, far, more destructive than productive, just accounting for the few vile wolves in sheep's clothing that are actively working towards the destruction of this planet despite the rest of us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago I think that may be the catch 22 that leaves us where we are, unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why would someone who already denounces the church and the evils of institutional religion. But happens to have private contemplations of a spiritual nature, Denounce that personal experience also? Because it's more honest, and the closer we get to the truth, the more lives we can save. Nothing is "spiritual". Reframe the experience in reality. I promise you can keep all the benefits, just get rid of the needless risk. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (16 children) I don’t know. She really never talks about it. Maybe you should ask. She might be crazier than you think. I don’t think she believes the angels influence the earth. Everything that exists influences everything else. If she believes angels exist, what is their purpose? preying to them does indicate an expectation they can guide one personaly, so I would call that influence again. Magical thinking. she is the only Christian i know to actually believe in something that literally magical Wrong. Every christian who believes in christ (which is all of them, it's in the fucking name) believes in magic. we both know is a bunch of nonsense so i am not surprise the logic makes no sense. How do you not see the danger in encouraging grown-ass adults to reject logic? Incredibly sweet and open minded woman though On the surface. i don’t think she is even capable of hate. You might say the same if you met my abusive mother because SHE believes she is a good person, because she believes a magic man in the sky loves her for abusing her kids. Connect the fucking dots and stop defending death cults, you miserable coward, children are dying for your bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (14 children) You are setting yourself up to become an abuser. Fuck you for victim blaming. There's a reason I chose not to have kids. I did not choose to be abused. Reminder: I was VIOLENTLY BRAINWASHED against my will. What kind of person do you think that produces? I can be kind, but you have consistently rejected reality to defend the exact same ideas that ruined my life. Stop being selfish and start listening to reason, for fuck's sake. How much long can you carry this hate before you attack someone for the crime of wearing a cross shaped heirloom. My "hate" is a response to their hate. Stop falling for DARVO, they are killing us. Hate begans hate. You mean "begets". Christians hate and call it love. I was abused because fuckshits like you refuse to look beneath the surface. And hate is not something you can keep under control. It will explode unless you actually try and find peace. I am trying to find peace. You won't let me. You're saying we should all sit back and let ourselves be slaughtered. Fuck that. I am not your enemy. You are, evidently. You've consistently chosen death instead of life. I am undergoing your toxicity to try and be your friend. And I've been lied to before. Saying things doesn't make them true. Liars aren't my friends. I dont care what people claim that they are good. But that's exactly what you're doing. I look at their actions. Look at your own actions, in context. You know I was abused because people believe the bible, yet you're telling me I'm wrong for criticizing the death cult that hurt me and is hurting us all right now. It's why I call you stupid. You are not applying reason. Do they judge others, do they show compassion to strangers.. Compassion is my default, but you lost that when you defended abusers. I'm still waiting for you to stop doing that, yet you continue choosing death for all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (12 children) All I've been asking this whole time is: Please stop defending my abusers. More children are being violently brainwashed every day, and you are defending their abusers, too. I wouldn't do this if it was just about me. Please think. I have some videos on my YouTube channel where I read some bible chapters. Maybe you should take a look. It's worse than you think. I plan on making more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (10 children) I know how bad some bibles are, you don’t need to tell me yaweh is the evident bad guy. But I do need to tell you that christ was yahweh, and that christians believe Jesus was christ. This is why it is bad from the ground up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (8 children) And i need to tell you that one of the 4 gospels that are included in the latest testament specifically says Jesus was the biological son of Joseph and Maria. Point being? The lineage of Jesus is described twice, once in Mark and once in Luke. They contradict each other; one claims Joseph is the son of Jacob, one claims Joseph is the son of Heli. Yet both lead back up to Abraham. Jesus was human and thus god is humans getting to choose their own destiny and studying morality. That's not what Jesus said in the gospels. He very explicitly commanded submission, obedience, I am the only way, etc. The romans added the old crap back in but the new philosophy remained. The bible remains a book of deadly bullshit that many people believe. The gnostic literature very specifically denounced jaweh as the monster and jesus as the a human of knowledge. Which gnostic literature? All of it? It's a very broad category of beliefs, yet still insists on magical thinking in seemingly every incarnation. Jesus himself claimed yahweh was the father to whom we must all submit. Even if one does not believe Jesus was christ, Jesus did. He was a delusional narcissist, a cult leader who got himself and others killed. The abrahamic faiths are death cults. Christianity is explicit about it. It's baked into the concept of "christ". Magical thinking is deadly. Superstition is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting. You're the one deflecting. I criticized christianity for being a death cult. You brought up gnosticism as if it's somehow better or somehow erases christianity. Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature. Why can't we focus on reality instead of scripture? There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean? Then write about that instead of magic, and leave christ out of it completely. But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that. Because the many branches of christianity are all based on the same shitty story about an abuser god sending his son to die to save us from his own punishments. IT IS A DEATH CULT. And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy If it's christian, it's a death cult. If it respects the teachings of Jesus, it's a death cult, because Jesus taught that he is the son of god, that he is christ. Why are you ignoring what Jesus died for? Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god. The Nicene creed explicitly states Jesus is the son of god. What do you reckon the pope meant when he said "Jesus reveals the Father to us by involving us in his own relationship with Him"? Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations) Someone should've told Jesus. Lying is not moral, please stop sanewashing his claims. Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin? The one most christians believe, yes. But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil. The one time? LOL. God was commanding sacrifices since Genesis, including human ones: He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” Is this a figurative animal sacrifice? God loves the smell: Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth Why did he make us evil in the first place? That's what we need "salvation" from, the "sinful nature" he created us with. Leviticus 17: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Numbers 29: It is a day for you to blow the trumpets, and you shall offer a burnt offering, for a pleasing aroma to the Lord: one bull from the herd, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish; also their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for the bull, two tenths for the ram, and one tenth for each of the seven lambs; with one male goat for a sin offering, to make atonement for you Now let's get to Jesus. Hebrews 9: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. John 1: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! As previously mentioned, 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world Romans 5: More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Ephesians 1: In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace Colossians 1: For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Revelation 1: And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal Please stop pretending they don't exist. I'm not saying they're sensible. I'm saying there are more death cultists than you realize, and you enable them by pretending their book of bullshit isn't a huge problem. Can you acknowledge each of these points? A: yahweh is a death god B: the bible describes yahweh as loving C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time D: most christians think reading the bible is important E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs F: our beliefs drive our actions If you can follow that line of logic, you can understand why my parents are getting away with child abuse. There are entire communities that revere the bible, and I had no means of escape. This same abuse and worse is still happening to others because people like you refuse to hold them accountable. You think the poison is not a problem as long as no one drinks it, but the poison itself contains instructions that say "drink me and shove me down everyone else's throats, too." Repeat after me: christianity is a death cult. Magical thinking is killing us. If you have questions, ask. I can help you understand if you stop denying reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (11 replies) [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago Correct! Thank you. It is frightening how living human beings will defend literal death cults WHILE THEY ARE KILLING US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago Yeah... I figured that out a couple comments in. I don't let people on Internet ruin my day thankfully. Thanks for the heads up though permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 17 points 1 month ago (107 children) Very mature and educational response. Really shows me I know nothing. Or... Just spitballing, maybe your response was actually immature and misguided? I genuinely hope you're okay and get a hug today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 107 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 18 points 1 month ago (37 children) And again, how is that enabling abuse? How is that treating them like a possession? I'm not excusing his wanting a child army. I'm not excusing his using kids as bullet shields. I'm not excusing any of the other garbage he's done. I'm saying that that gif, without any further context, does not immediately scream abuse. You've failed to give any evidence counter, just screamed obscenities. I've spent quite a bit of time recently taking to teachers and early development specialists and friends with kids trying to avoid the mistakes my conservative "Christian" parents made. One of the common things they've all said is the kid will need time to just be a kid and learn and when they're busy monkeying around is a good time to do your hobbies and recharge. I've spent 12 hours playing with my friends kids, taking them to a park, pushing on swings, letting them burn off energy and play and explore, and seen them immediately turn around ready to keep going. You're saying parents are expected to just keep going then? Not, say, set limits and boundaries? You really need to grow up and actually step into the world and live a little instead of being a keyboard warrior if you think screaming and name calling someone actually asking for an explanation is healthy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 37 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 22 points 1 month ago (11 children) Oh, okay, got it. Your entire argument is you were abused so you're now an expert even though you can't see through your own rage to spend a half second understand what others are actually saying. I'm done with this. I genuinely mean this. I hope you find healing and can let go of the hatred because it seems like you still need to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (5 children) I'll tell you the same thing I tell my closest friend who was also abused as a child and continues to struggle with it to this day. You had a shit childhood. We all get it. It sucks and it shouldn't have happened and it shouldn't happen to any child but it does and it sucks and the world sucks for letting it happen. But it happened in the past. You can't continue letting the past control your present and your future. You have to take accountability for yourself and your own actions. My father did the same thing as yours which is very common for his generation and specifically British men. Come home. Plop on couch. Watch TV. I played Lego on the carpet and watched what my father watched. That in and of itself was not child abuse. This is why you're getting negative votes and responses. If you have access to it, please consider therapy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] postcapitalism@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) You got this Snoop, we’re rooting for you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Right? To assume the pedo wannabe "might not be as bad as the pic" isn't very smart permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (4 replies) [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (23 children) Get some help, seriously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Step 1: Missinterpret a post, and lash out at random strangers. Step 2: Make enemies with everyone by calling them every insult you can think of in your blind rage. Step 3: ???? Step 4: Profit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (3 children) If this is you with a therapist then you either need to stop and actually listen to them (which you've shown here an extreme incapability of listening to others) and do the work, or you need a better therapist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Please, please, please show your therapist this entire message chain and ask them their opinion then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] odelik@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) It's cool. I have never held any ill towards you. And honestly thought it was a bit at first. And honestly, the more recent stuff I've seen are challenges on differencing principles. Hope the Concerta works for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Sometimes it is, because if people know you for dumb shit, might as well entertain them sometimes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why comment if you have nothing to add? Respond to my arguments or shut up. Why run defense for child abusers? permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) Get some help, seriously. Putting the blame on me when I asked my parents not to hit me. Assuming I'm not getting help. Pretending that my anger is unjustified or that my arguments don't hold up. If my arguments don't hold up, argue back with evidence. Don't just attack me. I was abused because people normalize the mistreatment of children. No one is holding my parents or other abusers like them accountable. If you knew the suffering you are enabling, you wouldn't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (6 children) Bro, when I found out someone in our Discord server was in my home country, I personally went to the cops to report her parents, and got told I watch too much sci-fi and to bring more details next time, and was laughed out of the station. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Then why are you telling me to get help? It sounds like you understand how bad it is, how much abuse has been normalized, how victims are erased and abusers are protected. Everyone should be calling out Musk's shitty behavior, not attacking me for doing so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) Because at the smallest disagreement, you are lumping strangers into the same category as your former abusers, going off, and instantly accusing them of being pro-child abuse, creating endless enemies, and making your life harder. Disagreement with reality is the problem. Stop pretending it's personal. I didn't choose my abuse. My parents chose to accept claims without evidence and chose to harm their children as a result. Did you watch my video about my little brother getting arrested for threatening mass violence? It's not just me. He called it a "christ-damned promise." This is caused by trauma. Don't use my trauma to deflect valid criticism, shitbag. All that does is enable this same trauma to happen to others, which is exactly what I am trying to prevent. You have done this repeatedly in more than one place. You are turning yourself into a meme needlessly. It's not needless. I need more people to be more reasonable. Otherwise, life is not worth living. We are being slaughtered and you're telling me not to fight back. Get out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look at this comment thread. Gif shows Musk neglecting his child. Commenter defends child abuse. I call them out for it. I get showered in downvotes and denial, enabling more child abuse. I'm not inflammatory. I didn't start this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Commenter said that there are legitimate reasons to ignore a child. Iirc, they also said that this is not what is happening here, and that Elon Musk is just a shitty father. They are just trying to be smart by going "Uhm, well achthualy". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (6 replies) load more comments (1 reply) [–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago* (67 children) Friendly warning. I just spend all yesterday arguing with this person and they believe that all 75% of people who ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a dangerous death cult and if you disagree you are automatically an enabler of all religious abuse ever. They are probably still salty the mods of atheism removed their last comments. They do really need a hug, just don’t let them ruin your day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 67 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago* (62 children) 75% of all people.. all painted with the same Brush off hate. This Includes cultural or christian atheists, and other forms of non theological religion they usually go out of their way to spread their mental illness You are thinking of zealots. The definition of zealotism is someone with strong uncompromising views and tries to push that view onto others. While you may be unfortunate to live in a place where dangerous zealots are centralised they do remain nothing but a load minority worldwide and do not speak for the infinite variety of personal spiritual contemplations that so many people privately have. I am not gonna continue this discussion again, i was already called a cancer by snoop just for respectfully disagreeing that 4/5of people supposedly are evil incarnate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 62 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago 75% of all people.. all painted with the same Brush off hate. They started the fight. Before bullshit, we had reality. People choose to lie about it and they don't care who it hurts. I'm not forcing anyone to lie. I'm just observing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (60 children) Stop defending liars. The abrahamic faiths are literal death cults. We're all better without superstition. You keep citing the number of believers as if that makes it right. It doesn't, and people are dying for it. We should all try to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 60 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (31 children) Nah man, the planet would be really better off without the Abrahamic religions, if you don't think so, you're not paying attention permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 31 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (25 children) So long as your flaws are your problems, you choose to live worse for some reason. But it is not just religion, but any kind of magical thinking. Like when someone refuses psych medicine because they believe they are special, and can overpower the disease with willpower. You put people at risk willingly by making irrational choices, just because they are convenient. Having said that, I have little issue with Cristian atheism, as it's not an actual religion, but an ideology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 25 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (23 children) That is concerning, given that the actual religious folk's religion is based on an anectodal book, that means they can twist it to whatever suits them. Like the prospherity gosspel. It is so easy to influence people. I mean, that's what MAGA is doing, treating their own religion book as "communist propaganda". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (17 children) Stop pretending that the 75% of humans who are ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a death cult and none of them worth defending when they are attacked with blind hate. IT'S NOT PRETENDING AND IT'S NOT BLIND. READ THE GODDAM BIBLE. IT IS A DEATH CULT. FUCK YOU FOR LYING ABOUT THIS. FUCK YOU FOR CHOOSING DEATH AGAIN AND AGAIN. USE YOUR GODDAM BRAIN, YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT. I was abused because you reject reality. A song for you: https://snoopsqueak.com/videos/fys Like i said i have read multiple but you would not consider them bibles because they do not glorify death in any shape or form. Name them. The one i found most influential did not even mention the afterlife. It was just about a cool guy being trying to do what was right. BY LYING TO EVERYONE AND DEMANDING THEY JOIN HIS DEATH CULT. STOP SANEWASHING THIS. I don’t believe in magical thinking Evidently, you do, and as a result you are rejecting reality so you can preserve your deadly stupidity. Whats is selfish about correctly Labeling meditation a form spiritually? Because nothing is "spiritual". It's a bullshit word. Describe your experiences in the context of reality, please. By not doing so, you are normalizing magical thinking. You are enabling my parents and worse, all so you can feel Very Special. You are very special. You don't need the bullshit. Grow the fuck up and take a stand for the truth, your cowardice is KILLING PEOPLE. Is that a bad word now too? It's a deadly mindset. If this hate is directed at every word that has some vague link to historical dogma i have bad news. STOP APPEALING TO POPULARITY. Just because many people have done it for a long time does not make it right. And stop pretending I am the aggressor. I am defending real life against your fake, stupid bullshit. I am not and have never defended a death cults Liar, you've done it all throughout these comments and you're still doing it. no one of the many people i know is in a death cult Liar, every christian you know is. and it certainly is not what the majority christians are about. Liar, it's the definition of christ. Citing a bible that is not the one they read/believe in is not going to change that. The bible describes a death god, encourages everyone to join a death cult, and real people really believe it. What part of this are you not getting? STOP REJECTING EVIDENCE, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (15 children) Insulting me for having a nuance that you fail to understand. Calling me a liar while i have been nothing but honest It's not nuanced, you're defending death cults. You are lying, and I highlighted each lie. Contrary to popular belief, lies do not require intent. If someone else told a lie and you repeat it earnestly, I'm still hearing a lie. It is blind because you refuse to see the difference between a book writen by one philosopher in one time versus one writen by a different philosopher in another time. It's not blind, because I see the text of the bible explicitly commanding abuse. You're pretending it doesn't exist, that it doesn't cause harm, while people are dying as a result of others' belief in it. There is no such thing as a singular bible. We are talking about christianity. The christian bible. There is no such thing as a singular christian identity (which i am not part of) It's in the name. They believe in christ, magical savior human sacrifice whom they must submit to if they want to avoid punishment. You seem to believe that there and that it somehow has the “magic” to turn people evil but i will tell you all the evils are man made and burning books is not going to help you at all. Read the bible and stop putting words in my mouth. I'd be happy if the damn thing had a "fiction" label, but many real human beings are pretending it is true. No i do not know the name of the book i read 22 years ago. Also its not in English. Useless, then. Focus on my points. You dont get to dictate what words mean, and if you try you will only find that everyone will stop listening to you. Neither do you. Think really hard about what "christianity" means, what "christ" is in context. It's a death cult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (13 children) More delusional and hateful then the average religious person. Mr. Spiritual thinks I'm delusional. MAGIC ISN'T REAL, DUMB FUCK. I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them. I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you're a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer. Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them. No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that. The ones who try to find a nicer "interpretation" are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly. You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad” HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does. Christ is the character central to the philosophy. That's the problem. What is "christ"? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to. The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy. That's really fucking stupid. "Christ" is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he's also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies. Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (5 replies) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (3 children) No doubt painting it all with one brush is reductionist, there are good people in all corners of the world. What I would say is, even the genuinely good actors practicing these faiths are all acting as cover for the monsters, whether they want to or not. The most devout people should rather denounce their faith as to not enable the evil that gets perpetrated in their name. Of course that won't happen, but I don't know how else we can reconcile with the idea that these faiths are far, far, far, more destructive than productive, just accounting for the few vile wolves in sheep's clothing that are actively working towards the destruction of this planet despite the rest of us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago I think that may be the catch 22 that leaves us where we are, unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why would someone who already denounces the church and the evils of institutional religion. But happens to have private contemplations of a spiritual nature, Denounce that personal experience also? Because it's more honest, and the closer we get to the truth, the more lives we can save. Nothing is "spiritual". Reframe the experience in reality. I promise you can keep all the benefits, just get rid of the needless risk. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (16 children) I don’t know. She really never talks about it. Maybe you should ask. She might be crazier than you think. I don’t think she believes the angels influence the earth. Everything that exists influences everything else. If she believes angels exist, what is their purpose? preying to them does indicate an expectation they can guide one personaly, so I would call that influence again. Magical thinking. she is the only Christian i know to actually believe in something that literally magical Wrong. Every christian who believes in christ (which is all of them, it's in the fucking name) believes in magic. we both know is a bunch of nonsense so i am not surprise the logic makes no sense. How do you not see the danger in encouraging grown-ass adults to reject logic? Incredibly sweet and open minded woman though On the surface. i don’t think she is even capable of hate. You might say the same if you met my abusive mother because SHE believes she is a good person, because she believes a magic man in the sky loves her for abusing her kids. Connect the fucking dots and stop defending death cults, you miserable coward, children are dying for your bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (14 children) You are setting yourself up to become an abuser. Fuck you for victim blaming. There's a reason I chose not to have kids. I did not choose to be abused. Reminder: I was VIOLENTLY BRAINWASHED against my will. What kind of person do you think that produces? I can be kind, but you have consistently rejected reality to defend the exact same ideas that ruined my life. Stop being selfish and start listening to reason, for fuck's sake. How much long can you carry this hate before you attack someone for the crime of wearing a cross shaped heirloom. My "hate" is a response to their hate. Stop falling for DARVO, they are killing us. Hate begans hate. You mean "begets". Christians hate and call it love. I was abused because fuckshits like you refuse to look beneath the surface. And hate is not something you can keep under control. It will explode unless you actually try and find peace. I am trying to find peace. You won't let me. You're saying we should all sit back and let ourselves be slaughtered. Fuck that. I am not your enemy. You are, evidently. You've consistently chosen death instead of life. I am undergoing your toxicity to try and be your friend. And I've been lied to before. Saying things doesn't make them true. Liars aren't my friends. I dont care what people claim that they are good. But that's exactly what you're doing. I look at their actions. Look at your own actions, in context. You know I was abused because people believe the bible, yet you're telling me I'm wrong for criticizing the death cult that hurt me and is hurting us all right now. It's why I call you stupid. You are not applying reason. Do they judge others, do they show compassion to strangers.. Compassion is my default, but you lost that when you defended abusers. I'm still waiting for you to stop doing that, yet you continue choosing death for all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (12 children) All I've been asking this whole time is: Please stop defending my abusers. More children are being violently brainwashed every day, and you are defending their abusers, too. I wouldn't do this if it was just about me. Please think. I have some videos on my YouTube channel where I read some bible chapters. Maybe you should take a look. It's worse than you think. I plan on making more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (10 children) I know how bad some bibles are, you don’t need to tell me yaweh is the evident bad guy. But I do need to tell you that christ was yahweh, and that christians believe Jesus was christ. This is why it is bad from the ground up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (8 children) And i need to tell you that one of the 4 gospels that are included in the latest testament specifically says Jesus was the biological son of Joseph and Maria. Point being? The lineage of Jesus is described twice, once in Mark and once in Luke. They contradict each other; one claims Joseph is the son of Jacob, one claims Joseph is the son of Heli. Yet both lead back up to Abraham. Jesus was human and thus god is humans getting to choose their own destiny and studying morality. That's not what Jesus said in the gospels. He very explicitly commanded submission, obedience, I am the only way, etc. The romans added the old crap back in but the new philosophy remained. The bible remains a book of deadly bullshit that many people believe. The gnostic literature very specifically denounced jaweh as the monster and jesus as the a human of knowledge. Which gnostic literature? All of it? It's a very broad category of beliefs, yet still insists on magical thinking in seemingly every incarnation. Jesus himself claimed yahweh was the father to whom we must all submit. Even if one does not believe Jesus was christ, Jesus did. He was a delusional narcissist, a cult leader who got himself and others killed. The abrahamic faiths are death cults. Christianity is explicit about it. It's baked into the concept of "christ". Magical thinking is deadly. Superstition is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting. You're the one deflecting. I criticized christianity for being a death cult. You brought up gnosticism as if it's somehow better or somehow erases christianity. Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature. Why can't we focus on reality instead of scripture? There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean? Then write about that instead of magic, and leave christ out of it completely. But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that. Because the many branches of christianity are all based on the same shitty story about an abuser god sending his son to die to save us from his own punishments. IT IS A DEATH CULT. And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy If it's christian, it's a death cult. If it respects the teachings of Jesus, it's a death cult, because Jesus taught that he is the son of god, that he is christ. Why are you ignoring what Jesus died for? Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god. The Nicene creed explicitly states Jesus is the son of god. What do you reckon the pope meant when he said "Jesus reveals the Father to us by involving us in his own relationship with Him"? Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations) Someone should've told Jesus. Lying is not moral, please stop sanewashing his claims. Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin? The one most christians believe, yes. But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil. The one time? LOL. God was commanding sacrifices since Genesis, including human ones: He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” Is this a figurative animal sacrifice? God loves the smell: Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth Why did he make us evil in the first place? That's what we need "salvation" from, the "sinful nature" he created us with. Leviticus 17: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Numbers 29: It is a day for you to blow the trumpets, and you shall offer a burnt offering, for a pleasing aroma to the Lord: one bull from the herd, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish; also their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for the bull, two tenths for the ram, and one tenth for each of the seven lambs; with one male goat for a sin offering, to make atonement for you Now let's get to Jesus. Hebrews 9: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. John 1: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! As previously mentioned, 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world Romans 5: More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Ephesians 1: In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace Colossians 1: For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Revelation 1: And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal Please stop pretending they don't exist. I'm not saying they're sensible. I'm saying there are more death cultists than you realize, and you enable them by pretending their book of bullshit isn't a huge problem. Can you acknowledge each of these points? A: yahweh is a death god B: the bible describes yahweh as loving C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time D: most christians think reading the bible is important E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs F: our beliefs drive our actions If you can follow that line of logic, you can understand why my parents are getting away with child abuse. There are entire communities that revere the bible, and I had no means of escape. This same abuse and worse is still happening to others because people like you refuse to hold them accountable. You think the poison is not a problem as long as no one drinks it, but the poison itself contains instructions that say "drink me and shove me down everyone else's throats, too." Repeat after me: christianity is a death cult. Magical thinking is killing us. If you have questions, ask. I can help you understand if you stop denying reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (11 replies) [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago Correct! Thank you. It is frightening how living human beings will defend literal death cults WHILE THEY ARE KILLING US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago Yeah... I figured that out a couple comments in. I don't let people on Internet ruin my day thankfully. Thanks for the heads up though permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 18 points 1 month ago (37 children) And again, how is that enabling abuse? How is that treating them like a possession? I'm not excusing his wanting a child army. I'm not excusing his using kids as bullet shields. I'm not excusing any of the other garbage he's done. I'm saying that that gif, without any further context, does not immediately scream abuse. You've failed to give any evidence counter, just screamed obscenities. I've spent quite a bit of time recently taking to teachers and early development specialists and friends with kids trying to avoid the mistakes my conservative "Christian" parents made. One of the common things they've all said is the kid will need time to just be a kid and learn and when they're busy monkeying around is a good time to do your hobbies and recharge. I've spent 12 hours playing with my friends kids, taking them to a park, pushing on swings, letting them burn off energy and play and explore, and seen them immediately turn around ready to keep going. You're saying parents are expected to just keep going then? Not, say, set limits and boundaries? You really need to grow up and actually step into the world and live a little instead of being a keyboard warrior if you think screaming and name calling someone actually asking for an explanation is healthy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 37 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 22 points 1 month ago (11 children) Oh, okay, got it. Your entire argument is you were abused so you're now an expert even though you can't see through your own rage to spend a half second understand what others are actually saying. I'm done with this. I genuinely mean this. I hope you find healing and can let go of the hatred because it seems like you still need to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (5 children) I'll tell you the same thing I tell my closest friend who was also abused as a child and continues to struggle with it to this day. You had a shit childhood. We all get it. It sucks and it shouldn't have happened and it shouldn't happen to any child but it does and it sucks and the world sucks for letting it happen. But it happened in the past. You can't continue letting the past control your present and your future. You have to take accountability for yourself and your own actions. My father did the same thing as yours which is very common for his generation and specifically British men. Come home. Plop on couch. Watch TV. I played Lego on the carpet and watched what my father watched. That in and of itself was not child abuse. This is why you're getting negative votes and responses. If you have access to it, please consider therapy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] postcapitalism@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) You got this Snoop, we’re rooting for you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Right? To assume the pedo wannabe "might not be as bad as the pic" isn't very smart permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (4 replies) [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (23 children) Get some help, seriously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Step 1: Missinterpret a post, and lash out at random strangers. Step 2: Make enemies with everyone by calling them every insult you can think of in your blind rage. Step 3: ???? Step 4: Profit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (3 children) If this is you with a therapist then you either need to stop and actually listen to them (which you've shown here an extreme incapability of listening to others) and do the work, or you need a better therapist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Please, please, please show your therapist this entire message chain and ask them their opinion then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] odelik@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) It's cool. I have never held any ill towards you. And honestly thought it was a bit at first. And honestly, the more recent stuff I've seen are challenges on differencing principles. Hope the Concerta works for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Sometimes it is, because if people know you for dumb shit, might as well entertain them sometimes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why comment if you have nothing to add? Respond to my arguments or shut up. Why run defense for child abusers? permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) Get some help, seriously. Putting the blame on me when I asked my parents not to hit me. Assuming I'm not getting help. Pretending that my anger is unjustified or that my arguments don't hold up. If my arguments don't hold up, argue back with evidence. Don't just attack me. I was abused because people normalize the mistreatment of children. No one is holding my parents or other abusers like them accountable. If you knew the suffering you are enabling, you wouldn't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (6 children) Bro, when I found out someone in our Discord server was in my home country, I personally went to the cops to report her parents, and got told I watch too much sci-fi and to bring more details next time, and was laughed out of the station. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Then why are you telling me to get help? It sounds like you understand how bad it is, how much abuse has been normalized, how victims are erased and abusers are protected. Everyone should be calling out Musk's shitty behavior, not attacking me for doing so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) Because at the smallest disagreement, you are lumping strangers into the same category as your former abusers, going off, and instantly accusing them of being pro-child abuse, creating endless enemies, and making your life harder. Disagreement with reality is the problem. Stop pretending it's personal. I didn't choose my abuse. My parents chose to accept claims without evidence and chose to harm their children as a result. Did you watch my video about my little brother getting arrested for threatening mass violence? It's not just me. He called it a "christ-damned promise." This is caused by trauma. Don't use my trauma to deflect valid criticism, shitbag. All that does is enable this same trauma to happen to others, which is exactly what I am trying to prevent. You have done this repeatedly in more than one place. You are turning yourself into a meme needlessly. It's not needless. I need more people to be more reasonable. Otherwise, life is not worth living. We are being slaughtered and you're telling me not to fight back. Get out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look at this comment thread. Gif shows Musk neglecting his child. Commenter defends child abuse. I call them out for it. I get showered in downvotes and denial, enabling more child abuse. I'm not inflammatory. I didn't start this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Commenter said that there are legitimate reasons to ignore a child. Iirc, they also said that this is not what is happening here, and that Elon Musk is just a shitty father. They are just trying to be smart by going "Uhm, well achthualy". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (6 replies) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 18 points 1 month ago (37 children) And again, how is that enabling abuse? How is that treating them like a possession? I'm not excusing his wanting a child army. I'm not excusing his using kids as bullet shields. I'm not excusing any of the other garbage he's done. I'm saying that that gif, without any further context, does not immediately scream abuse. You've failed to give any evidence counter, just screamed obscenities. I've spent quite a bit of time recently taking to teachers and early development specialists and friends with kids trying to avoid the mistakes my conservative "Christian" parents made. One of the common things they've all said is the kid will need time to just be a kid and learn and when they're busy monkeying around is a good time to do your hobbies and recharge. I've spent 12 hours playing with my friends kids, taking them to a park, pushing on swings, letting them burn off energy and play and explore, and seen them immediately turn around ready to keep going. You're saying parents are expected to just keep going then? Not, say, set limits and boundaries? You really need to grow up and actually step into the world and live a little instead of being a keyboard warrior if you think screaming and name calling someone actually asking for an explanation is healthy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 37 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 22 points 1 month ago (11 children) Oh, okay, got it. Your entire argument is you were abused so you're now an expert even though you can't see through your own rage to spend a half second understand what others are actually saying. I'm done with this. I genuinely mean this. I hope you find healing and can let go of the hatred because it seems like you still need to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (5 children) I'll tell you the same thing I tell my closest friend who was also abused as a child and continues to struggle with it to this day. You had a shit childhood. We all get it. It sucks and it shouldn't have happened and it shouldn't happen to any child but it does and it sucks and the world sucks for letting it happen. But it happened in the past. You can't continue letting the past control your present and your future. You have to take accountability for yourself and your own actions. My father did the same thing as yours which is very common for his generation and specifically British men. Come home. Plop on couch. Watch TV. I played Lego on the carpet and watched what my father watched. That in and of itself was not child abuse. This is why you're getting negative votes and responses. If you have access to it, please consider therapy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] postcapitalism@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) You got this Snoop, we’re rooting for you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Right? To assume the pedo wannabe "might not be as bad as the pic" isn't very smart permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (4 replies) [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (23 children) Get some help, seriously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Step 1: Missinterpret a post, and lash out at random strangers. Step 2: Make enemies with everyone by calling them every insult you can think of in your blind rage. Step 3: ???? Step 4: Profit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (3 children) If this is you with a therapist then you either need to stop and actually listen to them (which you've shown here an extreme incapability of listening to others) and do the work, or you need a better therapist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Please, please, please show your therapist this entire message chain and ask them their opinion then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] odelik@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) It's cool. I have never held any ill towards you. And honestly thought it was a bit at first. And honestly, the more recent stuff I've seen are challenges on differencing principles. Hope the Concerta works for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Sometimes it is, because if people know you for dumb shit, might as well entertain them sometimes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why comment if you have nothing to add? Respond to my arguments or shut up. Why run defense for child abusers? permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) Get some help, seriously. Putting the blame on me when I asked my parents not to hit me. Assuming I'm not getting help. Pretending that my anger is unjustified or that my arguments don't hold up. If my arguments don't hold up, argue back with evidence. Don't just attack me. I was abused because people normalize the mistreatment of children. No one is holding my parents or other abusers like them accountable. If you knew the suffering you are enabling, you wouldn't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (6 children) Bro, when I found out someone in our Discord server was in my home country, I personally went to the cops to report her parents, and got told I watch too much sci-fi and to bring more details next time, and was laughed out of the station. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Then why are you telling me to get help? It sounds like you understand how bad it is, how much abuse has been normalized, how victims are erased and abusers are protected. Everyone should be calling out Musk's shitty behavior, not attacking me for doing so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) Because at the smallest disagreement, you are lumping strangers into the same category as your former abusers, going off, and instantly accusing them of being pro-child abuse, creating endless enemies, and making your life harder. Disagreement with reality is the problem. Stop pretending it's personal. I didn't choose my abuse. My parents chose to accept claims without evidence and chose to harm their children as a result. Did you watch my video about my little brother getting arrested for threatening mass violence? It's not just me. He called it a "christ-damned promise." This is caused by trauma. Don't use my trauma to deflect valid criticism, shitbag. All that does is enable this same trauma to happen to others, which is exactly what I am trying to prevent. You have done this repeatedly in more than one place. You are turning yourself into a meme needlessly. It's not needless. I need more people to be more reasonable. Otherwise, life is not worth living. We are being slaughtered and you're telling me not to fight back. Get out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look at this comment thread. Gif shows Musk neglecting his child. Commenter defends child abuse. I call them out for it. I get showered in downvotes and denial, enabling more child abuse. I'm not inflammatory. I didn't start this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Commenter said that there are legitimate reasons to ignore a child. Iirc, they also said that this is not what is happening here, and that Elon Musk is just a shitty father. They are just trying to be smart by going "Uhm, well achthualy". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (6 replies) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 22 points 1 month ago (11 children) Oh, okay, got it. Your entire argument is you were abused so you're now an expert even though you can't see through your own rage to spend a half second understand what others are actually saying. I'm done with this. I genuinely mean this. I hope you find healing and can let go of the hatred because it seems like you still need to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (5 children) I'll tell you the same thing I tell my closest friend who was also abused as a child and continues to struggle with it to this day. You had a shit childhood. We all get it. It sucks and it shouldn't have happened and it shouldn't happen to any child but it does and it sucks and the world sucks for letting it happen. But it happened in the past. You can't continue letting the past control your present and your future. You have to take accountability for yourself and your own actions. My father did the same thing as yours which is very common for his generation and specifically British men. Come home. Plop on couch. Watch TV. I played Lego on the carpet and watched what my father watched. That in and of itself was not child abuse. This is why you're getting negative votes and responses. If you have access to it, please consider therapy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] postcapitalism@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) You got this Snoop, we’re rooting for you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Right? To assume the pedo wannabe "might not be as bad as the pic" isn't very smart permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (4 replies) [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (23 children) Get some help, seriously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Step 1: Missinterpret a post, and lash out at random strangers. Step 2: Make enemies with everyone by calling them every insult you can think of in your blind rage. Step 3: ???? Step 4: Profit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (3 children) If this is you with a therapist then you either need to stop and actually listen to them (which you've shown here an extreme incapability of listening to others) and do the work, or you need a better therapist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Please, please, please show your therapist this entire message chain and ask them their opinion then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] odelik@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) It's cool. I have never held any ill towards you. And honestly thought it was a bit at first. And honestly, the more recent stuff I've seen are challenges on differencing principles. Hope the Concerta works for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Sometimes it is, because if people know you for dumb shit, might as well entertain them sometimes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why comment if you have nothing to add? Respond to my arguments or shut up. Why run defense for child abusers? permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) Get some help, seriously. Putting the blame on me when I asked my parents not to hit me. Assuming I'm not getting help. Pretending that my anger is unjustified or that my arguments don't hold up. If my arguments don't hold up, argue back with evidence. Don't just attack me. I was abused because people normalize the mistreatment of children. No one is holding my parents or other abusers like them accountable. If you knew the suffering you are enabling, you wouldn't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (6 children) Bro, when I found out someone in our Discord server was in my home country, I personally went to the cops to report her parents, and got told I watch too much sci-fi and to bring more details next time, and was laughed out of the station. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Then why are you telling me to get help? It sounds like you understand how bad it is, how much abuse has been normalized, how victims are erased and abusers are protected. Everyone should be calling out Musk's shitty behavior, not attacking me for doing so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) Because at the smallest disagreement, you are lumping strangers into the same category as your former abusers, going off, and instantly accusing them of being pro-child abuse, creating endless enemies, and making your life harder. Disagreement with reality is the problem. Stop pretending it's personal. I didn't choose my abuse. My parents chose to accept claims without evidence and chose to harm their children as a result. Did you watch my video about my little brother getting arrested for threatening mass violence? It's not just me. He called it a "christ-damned promise." This is caused by trauma. Don't use my trauma to deflect valid criticism, shitbag. All that does is enable this same trauma to happen to others, which is exactly what I am trying to prevent. You have done this repeatedly in more than one place. You are turning yourself into a meme needlessly. It's not needless. I need more people to be more reasonable. Otherwise, life is not worth living. We are being slaughtered and you're telling me not to fight back. Get out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look at this comment thread. Gif shows Musk neglecting his child. Commenter defends child abuse. I call them out for it. I get showered in downvotes and denial, enabling more child abuse. I'm not inflammatory. I didn't start this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Commenter said that there are legitimate reasons to ignore a child. Iirc, they also said that this is not what is happening here, and that Elon Musk is just a shitty father. They are just trying to be smart by going "Uhm, well achthualy". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (6 replies)
[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 22 points 1 month ago (11 children) Oh, okay, got it. Your entire argument is you were abused so you're now an expert even though you can't see through your own rage to spend a half second understand what others are actually saying. I'm done with this. I genuinely mean this. I hope you find healing and can let go of the hatred because it seems like you still need to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (5 children) I'll tell you the same thing I tell my closest friend who was also abused as a child and continues to struggle with it to this day. You had a shit childhood. We all get it. It sucks and it shouldn't have happened and it shouldn't happen to any child but it does and it sucks and the world sucks for letting it happen. But it happened in the past. You can't continue letting the past control your present and your future. You have to take accountability for yourself and your own actions. My father did the same thing as yours which is very common for his generation and specifically British men. Come home. Plop on couch. Watch TV. I played Lego on the carpet and watched what my father watched. That in and of itself was not child abuse. This is why you're getting negative votes and responses. If you have access to it, please consider therapy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] postcapitalism@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) You got this Snoop, we’re rooting for you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Right? To assume the pedo wannabe "might not be as bad as the pic" isn't very smart permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (4 replies)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (5 children) I'll tell you the same thing I tell my closest friend who was also abused as a child and continues to struggle with it to this day. You had a shit childhood. We all get it. It sucks and it shouldn't have happened and it shouldn't happen to any child but it does and it sucks and the world sucks for letting it happen. But it happened in the past. You can't continue letting the past control your present and your future. You have to take accountability for yourself and your own actions. My father did the same thing as yours which is very common for his generation and specifically British men. Come home. Plop on couch. Watch TV. I played Lego on the carpet and watched what my father watched. That in and of itself was not child abuse. This is why you're getting negative votes and responses. If you have access to it, please consider therapy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] postcapitalism@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) You got this Snoop, we’re rooting for you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies)
[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (5 children) I'll tell you the same thing I tell my closest friend who was also abused as a child and continues to struggle with it to this day. You had a shit childhood. We all get it. It sucks and it shouldn't have happened and it shouldn't happen to any child but it does and it sucks and the world sucks for letting it happen. But it happened in the past. You can't continue letting the past control your present and your future. You have to take accountability for yourself and your own actions. My father did the same thing as yours which is very common for his generation and specifically British men. Come home. Plop on couch. Watch TV. I played Lego on the carpet and watched what my father watched. That in and of itself was not child abuse. This is why you're getting negative votes and responses. If you have access to it, please consider therapy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] postcapitalism@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) You got this Snoop, we’re rooting for you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] postcapitalism@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) You got this Snoop, we’re rooting for you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] postcapitalism@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) You got this Snoop, we’re rooting for you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Right? To assume the pedo wannabe "might not be as bad as the pic" isn't very smart permalink fedilink source parent
[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Right? To assume the pedo wannabe "might not be as bad as the pic" isn't very smart permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (23 children) Get some help, seriously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Step 1: Missinterpret a post, and lash out at random strangers. Step 2: Make enemies with everyone by calling them every insult you can think of in your blind rage. Step 3: ???? Step 4: Profit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (3 children) If this is you with a therapist then you either need to stop and actually listen to them (which you've shown here an extreme incapability of listening to others) and do the work, or you need a better therapist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Please, please, please show your therapist this entire message chain and ask them their opinion then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] odelik@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) It's cool. I have never held any ill towards you. And honestly thought it was a bit at first. And honestly, the more recent stuff I've seen are challenges on differencing principles. Hope the Concerta works for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Sometimes it is, because if people know you for dumb shit, might as well entertain them sometimes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why comment if you have nothing to add? Respond to my arguments or shut up. Why run defense for child abusers? permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) Get some help, seriously. Putting the blame on me when I asked my parents not to hit me. Assuming I'm not getting help. Pretending that my anger is unjustified or that my arguments don't hold up. If my arguments don't hold up, argue back with evidence. Don't just attack me. I was abused because people normalize the mistreatment of children. No one is holding my parents or other abusers like them accountable. If you knew the suffering you are enabling, you wouldn't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (6 children) Bro, when I found out someone in our Discord server was in my home country, I personally went to the cops to report her parents, and got told I watch too much sci-fi and to bring more details next time, and was laughed out of the station. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Then why are you telling me to get help? It sounds like you understand how bad it is, how much abuse has been normalized, how victims are erased and abusers are protected. Everyone should be calling out Musk's shitty behavior, not attacking me for doing so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) Because at the smallest disagreement, you are lumping strangers into the same category as your former abusers, going off, and instantly accusing them of being pro-child abuse, creating endless enemies, and making your life harder. Disagreement with reality is the problem. Stop pretending it's personal. I didn't choose my abuse. My parents chose to accept claims without evidence and chose to harm their children as a result. Did you watch my video about my little brother getting arrested for threatening mass violence? It's not just me. He called it a "christ-damned promise." This is caused by trauma. Don't use my trauma to deflect valid criticism, shitbag. All that does is enable this same trauma to happen to others, which is exactly what I am trying to prevent. You have done this repeatedly in more than one place. You are turning yourself into a meme needlessly. It's not needless. I need more people to be more reasonable. Otherwise, life is not worth living. We are being slaughtered and you're telling me not to fight back. Get out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look at this comment thread. Gif shows Musk neglecting his child. Commenter defends child abuse. I call them out for it. I get showered in downvotes and denial, enabling more child abuse. I'm not inflammatory. I didn't start this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Commenter said that there are legitimate reasons to ignore a child. Iirc, they also said that this is not what is happening here, and that Elon Musk is just a shitty father. They are just trying to be smart by going "Uhm, well achthualy". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (6 replies)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Step 1: Missinterpret a post, and lash out at random strangers. Step 2: Make enemies with everyone by calling them every insult you can think of in your blind rage. Step 3: ???? Step 4: Profit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (3 children) If this is you with a therapist then you either need to stop and actually listen to them (which you've shown here an extreme incapability of listening to others) and do the work, or you need a better therapist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Please, please, please show your therapist this entire message chain and ask them their opinion then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Step 1: Missinterpret a post, and lash out at random strangers. Step 2: Make enemies with everyone by calling them every insult you can think of in your blind rage. Step 3: ???? Step 4: Profit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (3 children) If this is you with a therapist then you either need to stop and actually listen to them (which you've shown here an extreme incapability of listening to others) and do the work, or you need a better therapist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Please, please, please show your therapist this entire message chain and ask them their opinion then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Please, please, please show your therapist this entire message chain and ask them their opinion then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Please, please, please show your therapist this entire message chain and ask them their opinion then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] odelik@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) It's cool. I have never held any ill towards you. And honestly thought it was a bit at first. And honestly, the more recent stuff I've seen are challenges on differencing principles. Hope the Concerta works for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Sometimes it is, because if people know you for dumb shit, might as well entertain them sometimes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] odelik@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) It's cool. I have never held any ill towards you. And honestly thought it was a bit at first. And honestly, the more recent stuff I've seen are challenges on differencing principles. Hope the Concerta works for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Sometimes it is, because if people know you for dumb shit, might as well entertain them sometimes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Sometimes it is, because if people know you for dumb shit, might as well entertain them sometimes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why comment if you have nothing to add? Respond to my arguments or shut up. Why run defense for child abusers? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why comment if you have nothing to add? Respond to my arguments or shut up. Why run defense for child abusers? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) Get some help, seriously. Putting the blame on me when I asked my parents not to hit me. Assuming I'm not getting help. Pretending that my anger is unjustified or that my arguments don't hold up. If my arguments don't hold up, argue back with evidence. Don't just attack me. I was abused because people normalize the mistreatment of children. No one is holding my parents or other abusers like them accountable. If you knew the suffering you are enabling, you wouldn't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (6 children) Bro, when I found out someone in our Discord server was in my home country, I personally went to the cops to report her parents, and got told I watch too much sci-fi and to bring more details next time, and was laughed out of the station. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Then why are you telling me to get help? It sounds like you understand how bad it is, how much abuse has been normalized, how victims are erased and abusers are protected. Everyone should be calling out Musk's shitty behavior, not attacking me for doing so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) Because at the smallest disagreement, you are lumping strangers into the same category as your former abusers, going off, and instantly accusing them of being pro-child abuse, creating endless enemies, and making your life harder. Disagreement with reality is the problem. Stop pretending it's personal. I didn't choose my abuse. My parents chose to accept claims without evidence and chose to harm their children as a result. Did you watch my video about my little brother getting arrested for threatening mass violence? It's not just me. He called it a "christ-damned promise." This is caused by trauma. Don't use my trauma to deflect valid criticism, shitbag. All that does is enable this same trauma to happen to others, which is exactly what I am trying to prevent. You have done this repeatedly in more than one place. You are turning yourself into a meme needlessly. It's not needless. I need more people to be more reasonable. Otherwise, life is not worth living. We are being slaughtered and you're telling me not to fight back. Get out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look at this comment thread. Gif shows Musk neglecting his child. Commenter defends child abuse. I call them out for it. I get showered in downvotes and denial, enabling more child abuse. I'm not inflammatory. I didn't start this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Commenter said that there are legitimate reasons to ignore a child. Iirc, they also said that this is not what is happening here, and that Elon Musk is just a shitty father. They are just trying to be smart by going "Uhm, well achthualy". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) Get some help, seriously. Putting the blame on me when I asked my parents not to hit me. Assuming I'm not getting help. Pretending that my anger is unjustified or that my arguments don't hold up. If my arguments don't hold up, argue back with evidence. Don't just attack me. I was abused because people normalize the mistreatment of children. No one is holding my parents or other abusers like them accountable. If you knew the suffering you are enabling, you wouldn't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (6 children) Bro, when I found out someone in our Discord server was in my home country, I personally went to the cops to report her parents, and got told I watch too much sci-fi and to bring more details next time, and was laughed out of the station. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Then why are you telling me to get help? It sounds like you understand how bad it is, how much abuse has been normalized, how victims are erased and abusers are protected. Everyone should be calling out Musk's shitty behavior, not attacking me for doing so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) Because at the smallest disagreement, you are lumping strangers into the same category as your former abusers, going off, and instantly accusing them of being pro-child abuse, creating endless enemies, and making your life harder. Disagreement with reality is the problem. Stop pretending it's personal. I didn't choose my abuse. My parents chose to accept claims without evidence and chose to harm their children as a result. Did you watch my video about my little brother getting arrested for threatening mass violence? It's not just me. He called it a "christ-damned promise." This is caused by trauma. Don't use my trauma to deflect valid criticism, shitbag. All that does is enable this same trauma to happen to others, which is exactly what I am trying to prevent. You have done this repeatedly in more than one place. You are turning yourself into a meme needlessly. It's not needless. I need more people to be more reasonable. Otherwise, life is not worth living. We are being slaughtered and you're telling me not to fight back. Get out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look at this comment thread. Gif shows Musk neglecting his child. Commenter defends child abuse. I call them out for it. I get showered in downvotes and denial, enabling more child abuse. I'm not inflammatory. I didn't start this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Commenter said that there are legitimate reasons to ignore a child. Iirc, they also said that this is not what is happening here, and that Elon Musk is just a shitty father. They are just trying to be smart by going "Uhm, well achthualy". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (6 children) Bro, when I found out someone in our Discord server was in my home country, I personally went to the cops to report her parents, and got told I watch too much sci-fi and to bring more details next time, and was laughed out of the station. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Then why are you telling me to get help? It sounds like you understand how bad it is, how much abuse has been normalized, how victims are erased and abusers are protected. Everyone should be calling out Musk's shitty behavior, not attacking me for doing so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) Because at the smallest disagreement, you are lumping strangers into the same category as your former abusers, going off, and instantly accusing them of being pro-child abuse, creating endless enemies, and making your life harder. Disagreement with reality is the problem. Stop pretending it's personal. I didn't choose my abuse. My parents chose to accept claims without evidence and chose to harm their children as a result. Did you watch my video about my little brother getting arrested for threatening mass violence? It's not just me. He called it a "christ-damned promise." This is caused by trauma. Don't use my trauma to deflect valid criticism, shitbag. All that does is enable this same trauma to happen to others, which is exactly what I am trying to prevent. You have done this repeatedly in more than one place. You are turning yourself into a meme needlessly. It's not needless. I need more people to be more reasonable. Otherwise, life is not worth living. We are being slaughtered and you're telling me not to fight back. Get out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look at this comment thread. Gif shows Musk neglecting his child. Commenter defends child abuse. I call them out for it. I get showered in downvotes and denial, enabling more child abuse. I'm not inflammatory. I didn't start this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Commenter said that there are legitimate reasons to ignore a child. Iirc, they also said that this is not what is happening here, and that Elon Musk is just a shitty father. They are just trying to be smart by going "Uhm, well achthualy". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Then why are you telling me to get help? It sounds like you understand how bad it is, how much abuse has been normalized, how victims are erased and abusers are protected. Everyone should be calling out Musk's shitty behavior, not attacking me for doing so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) Because at the smallest disagreement, you are lumping strangers into the same category as your former abusers, going off, and instantly accusing them of being pro-child abuse, creating endless enemies, and making your life harder. Disagreement with reality is the problem. Stop pretending it's personal. I didn't choose my abuse. My parents chose to accept claims without evidence and chose to harm their children as a result. Did you watch my video about my little brother getting arrested for threatening mass violence? It's not just me. He called it a "christ-damned promise." This is caused by trauma. Don't use my trauma to deflect valid criticism, shitbag. All that does is enable this same trauma to happen to others, which is exactly what I am trying to prevent. You have done this repeatedly in more than one place. You are turning yourself into a meme needlessly. It's not needless. I need more people to be more reasonable. Otherwise, life is not worth living. We are being slaughtered and you're telling me not to fight back. Get out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look at this comment thread. Gif shows Musk neglecting his child. Commenter defends child abuse. I call them out for it. I get showered in downvotes and denial, enabling more child abuse. I'm not inflammatory. I didn't start this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Commenter said that there are legitimate reasons to ignore a child. Iirc, they also said that this is not what is happening here, and that Elon Musk is just a shitty father. They are just trying to be smart by going "Uhm, well achthualy". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) Because at the smallest disagreement, you are lumping strangers into the same category as your former abusers, going off, and instantly accusing them of being pro-child abuse, creating endless enemies, and making your life harder. Disagreement with reality is the problem. Stop pretending it's personal. I didn't choose my abuse. My parents chose to accept claims without evidence and chose to harm their children as a result. Did you watch my video about my little brother getting arrested for threatening mass violence? It's not just me. He called it a "christ-damned promise." This is caused by trauma. Don't use my trauma to deflect valid criticism, shitbag. All that does is enable this same trauma to happen to others, which is exactly what I am trying to prevent. You have done this repeatedly in more than one place. You are turning yourself into a meme needlessly. It's not needless. I need more people to be more reasonable. Otherwise, life is not worth living. We are being slaughtered and you're telling me not to fight back. Get out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look at this comment thread. Gif shows Musk neglecting his child. Commenter defends child abuse. I call them out for it. I get showered in downvotes and denial, enabling more child abuse. I'm not inflammatory. I didn't start this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Commenter said that there are legitimate reasons to ignore a child. Iirc, they also said that this is not what is happening here, and that Elon Musk is just a shitty father. They are just trying to be smart by going "Uhm, well achthualy". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) Because at the smallest disagreement, you are lumping strangers into the same category as your former abusers, going off, and instantly accusing them of being pro-child abuse, creating endless enemies, and making your life harder. Disagreement with reality is the problem. Stop pretending it's personal. I didn't choose my abuse. My parents chose to accept claims without evidence and chose to harm their children as a result. Did you watch my video about my little brother getting arrested for threatening mass violence? It's not just me. He called it a "christ-damned promise." This is caused by trauma. Don't use my trauma to deflect valid criticism, shitbag. All that does is enable this same trauma to happen to others, which is exactly what I am trying to prevent. You have done this repeatedly in more than one place. You are turning yourself into a meme needlessly. It's not needless. I need more people to be more reasonable. Otherwise, life is not worth living. We are being slaughtered and you're telling me not to fight back. Get out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look at this comment thread. Gif shows Musk neglecting his child. Commenter defends child abuse. I call them out for it. I get showered in downvotes and denial, enabling more child abuse. I'm not inflammatory. I didn't start this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Commenter said that there are legitimate reasons to ignore a child. Iirc, they also said that this is not what is happening here, and that Elon Musk is just a shitty father. They are just trying to be smart by going "Uhm, well achthualy". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look at this comment thread. Gif shows Musk neglecting his child. Commenter defends child abuse. I call them out for it. I get showered in downvotes and denial, enabling more child abuse. I'm not inflammatory. I didn't start this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Commenter said that there are legitimate reasons to ignore a child. Iirc, they also said that this is not what is happening here, and that Elon Musk is just a shitty father. They are just trying to be smart by going "Uhm, well achthualy". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Look at this comment thread. Gif shows Musk neglecting his child. Commenter defends child abuse. I call them out for it. I get showered in downvotes and denial, enabling more child abuse. I'm not inflammatory. I didn't start this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Commenter said that there are legitimate reasons to ignore a child. Iirc, they also said that this is not what is happening here, and that Elon Musk is just a shitty father. They are just trying to be smart by going "Uhm, well achthualy". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Commenter said that there are legitimate reasons to ignore a child. Iirc, they also said that this is not what is happening here, and that Elon Musk is just a shitty father. They are just trying to be smart by going "Uhm, well achthualy". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago* (67 children) Friendly warning. I just spend all yesterday arguing with this person and they believe that all 75% of people who ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a dangerous death cult and if you disagree you are automatically an enabler of all religious abuse ever. They are probably still salty the mods of atheism removed their last comments. They do really need a hug, just don’t let them ruin your day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 67 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago* (62 children) 75% of all people.. all painted with the same Brush off hate. This Includes cultural or christian atheists, and other forms of non theological religion they usually go out of their way to spread their mental illness You are thinking of zealots. The definition of zealotism is someone with strong uncompromising views and tries to push that view onto others. While you may be unfortunate to live in a place where dangerous zealots are centralised they do remain nothing but a load minority worldwide and do not speak for the infinite variety of personal spiritual contemplations that so many people privately have. I am not gonna continue this discussion again, i was already called a cancer by snoop just for respectfully disagreeing that 4/5of people supposedly are evil incarnate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 62 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago 75% of all people.. all painted with the same Brush off hate. They started the fight. Before bullshit, we had reality. People choose to lie about it and they don't care who it hurts. I'm not forcing anyone to lie. I'm just observing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (60 children) Stop defending liars. The abrahamic faiths are literal death cults. We're all better without superstition. You keep citing the number of believers as if that makes it right. It doesn't, and people are dying for it. We should all try to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 60 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (31 children) Nah man, the planet would be really better off without the Abrahamic religions, if you don't think so, you're not paying attention permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 31 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (25 children) So long as your flaws are your problems, you choose to live worse for some reason. But it is not just religion, but any kind of magical thinking. Like when someone refuses psych medicine because they believe they are special, and can overpower the disease with willpower. You put people at risk willingly by making irrational choices, just because they are convenient. Having said that, I have little issue with Cristian atheism, as it's not an actual religion, but an ideology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 25 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (23 children) That is concerning, given that the actual religious folk's religion is based on an anectodal book, that means they can twist it to whatever suits them. Like the prospherity gosspel. It is so easy to influence people. I mean, that's what MAGA is doing, treating their own religion book as "communist propaganda". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (17 children) Stop pretending that the 75% of humans who are ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a death cult and none of them worth defending when they are attacked with blind hate. IT'S NOT PRETENDING AND IT'S NOT BLIND. READ THE GODDAM BIBLE. IT IS A DEATH CULT. FUCK YOU FOR LYING ABOUT THIS. FUCK YOU FOR CHOOSING DEATH AGAIN AND AGAIN. USE YOUR GODDAM BRAIN, YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT. I was abused because you reject reality. A song for you: https://snoopsqueak.com/videos/fys Like i said i have read multiple but you would not consider them bibles because they do not glorify death in any shape or form. Name them. The one i found most influential did not even mention the afterlife. It was just about a cool guy being trying to do what was right. BY LYING TO EVERYONE AND DEMANDING THEY JOIN HIS DEATH CULT. STOP SANEWASHING THIS. I don’t believe in magical thinking Evidently, you do, and as a result you are rejecting reality so you can preserve your deadly stupidity. Whats is selfish about correctly Labeling meditation a form spiritually? Because nothing is "spiritual". It's a bullshit word. Describe your experiences in the context of reality, please. By not doing so, you are normalizing magical thinking. You are enabling my parents and worse, all so you can feel Very Special. You are very special. You don't need the bullshit. Grow the fuck up and take a stand for the truth, your cowardice is KILLING PEOPLE. Is that a bad word now too? It's a deadly mindset. If this hate is directed at every word that has some vague link to historical dogma i have bad news. STOP APPEALING TO POPULARITY. Just because many people have done it for a long time does not make it right. And stop pretending I am the aggressor. I am defending real life against your fake, stupid bullshit. I am not and have never defended a death cults Liar, you've done it all throughout these comments and you're still doing it. no one of the many people i know is in a death cult Liar, every christian you know is. and it certainly is not what the majority christians are about. Liar, it's the definition of christ. Citing a bible that is not the one they read/believe in is not going to change that. The bible describes a death god, encourages everyone to join a death cult, and real people really believe it. What part of this are you not getting? STOP REJECTING EVIDENCE, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (15 children) Insulting me for having a nuance that you fail to understand. Calling me a liar while i have been nothing but honest It's not nuanced, you're defending death cults. You are lying, and I highlighted each lie. Contrary to popular belief, lies do not require intent. If someone else told a lie and you repeat it earnestly, I'm still hearing a lie. It is blind because you refuse to see the difference between a book writen by one philosopher in one time versus one writen by a different philosopher in another time. It's not blind, because I see the text of the bible explicitly commanding abuse. You're pretending it doesn't exist, that it doesn't cause harm, while people are dying as a result of others' belief in it. There is no such thing as a singular bible. We are talking about christianity. The christian bible. There is no such thing as a singular christian identity (which i am not part of) It's in the name. They believe in christ, magical savior human sacrifice whom they must submit to if they want to avoid punishment. You seem to believe that there and that it somehow has the “magic” to turn people evil but i will tell you all the evils are man made and burning books is not going to help you at all. Read the bible and stop putting words in my mouth. I'd be happy if the damn thing had a "fiction" label, but many real human beings are pretending it is true. No i do not know the name of the book i read 22 years ago. Also its not in English. Useless, then. Focus on my points. You dont get to dictate what words mean, and if you try you will only find that everyone will stop listening to you. Neither do you. Think really hard about what "christianity" means, what "christ" is in context. It's a death cult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (13 children) More delusional and hateful then the average religious person. Mr. Spiritual thinks I'm delusional. MAGIC ISN'T REAL, DUMB FUCK. I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them. I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you're a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer. Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them. No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that. The ones who try to find a nicer "interpretation" are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly. You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad” HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does. Christ is the character central to the philosophy. That's the problem. What is "christ"? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to. The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy. That's really fucking stupid. "Christ" is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he's also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies. Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (5 replies) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (3 children) No doubt painting it all with one brush is reductionist, there are good people in all corners of the world. What I would say is, even the genuinely good actors practicing these faiths are all acting as cover for the monsters, whether they want to or not. The most devout people should rather denounce their faith as to not enable the evil that gets perpetrated in their name. Of course that won't happen, but I don't know how else we can reconcile with the idea that these faiths are far, far, far, more destructive than productive, just accounting for the few vile wolves in sheep's clothing that are actively working towards the destruction of this planet despite the rest of us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago I think that may be the catch 22 that leaves us where we are, unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why would someone who already denounces the church and the evils of institutional religion. But happens to have private contemplations of a spiritual nature, Denounce that personal experience also? Because it's more honest, and the closer we get to the truth, the more lives we can save. Nothing is "spiritual". Reframe the experience in reality. I promise you can keep all the benefits, just get rid of the needless risk. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (16 children) I don’t know. She really never talks about it. Maybe you should ask. She might be crazier than you think. I don’t think she believes the angels influence the earth. Everything that exists influences everything else. If she believes angels exist, what is their purpose? preying to them does indicate an expectation they can guide one personaly, so I would call that influence again. Magical thinking. she is the only Christian i know to actually believe in something that literally magical Wrong. Every christian who believes in christ (which is all of them, it's in the fucking name) believes in magic. we both know is a bunch of nonsense so i am not surprise the logic makes no sense. How do you not see the danger in encouraging grown-ass adults to reject logic? Incredibly sweet and open minded woman though On the surface. i don’t think she is even capable of hate. You might say the same if you met my abusive mother because SHE believes she is a good person, because she believes a magic man in the sky loves her for abusing her kids. Connect the fucking dots and stop defending death cults, you miserable coward, children are dying for your bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (14 children) You are setting yourself up to become an abuser. Fuck you for victim blaming. There's a reason I chose not to have kids. I did not choose to be abused. Reminder: I was VIOLENTLY BRAINWASHED against my will. What kind of person do you think that produces? I can be kind, but you have consistently rejected reality to defend the exact same ideas that ruined my life. Stop being selfish and start listening to reason, for fuck's sake. How much long can you carry this hate before you attack someone for the crime of wearing a cross shaped heirloom. My "hate" is a response to their hate. Stop falling for DARVO, they are killing us. Hate begans hate. You mean "begets". Christians hate and call it love. I was abused because fuckshits like you refuse to look beneath the surface. And hate is not something you can keep under control. It will explode unless you actually try and find peace. I am trying to find peace. You won't let me. You're saying we should all sit back and let ourselves be slaughtered. Fuck that. I am not your enemy. You are, evidently. You've consistently chosen death instead of life. I am undergoing your toxicity to try and be your friend. And I've been lied to before. Saying things doesn't make them true. Liars aren't my friends. I dont care what people claim that they are good. But that's exactly what you're doing. I look at their actions. Look at your own actions, in context. You know I was abused because people believe the bible, yet you're telling me I'm wrong for criticizing the death cult that hurt me and is hurting us all right now. It's why I call you stupid. You are not applying reason. Do they judge others, do they show compassion to strangers.. Compassion is my default, but you lost that when you defended abusers. I'm still waiting for you to stop doing that, yet you continue choosing death for all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (12 children) All I've been asking this whole time is: Please stop defending my abusers. More children are being violently brainwashed every day, and you are defending their abusers, too. I wouldn't do this if it was just about me. Please think. I have some videos on my YouTube channel where I read some bible chapters. Maybe you should take a look. It's worse than you think. I plan on making more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (10 children) I know how bad some bibles are, you don’t need to tell me yaweh is the evident bad guy. But I do need to tell you that christ was yahweh, and that christians believe Jesus was christ. This is why it is bad from the ground up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (8 children) And i need to tell you that one of the 4 gospels that are included in the latest testament specifically says Jesus was the biological son of Joseph and Maria. Point being? The lineage of Jesus is described twice, once in Mark and once in Luke. They contradict each other; one claims Joseph is the son of Jacob, one claims Joseph is the son of Heli. Yet both lead back up to Abraham. Jesus was human and thus god is humans getting to choose their own destiny and studying morality. That's not what Jesus said in the gospels. He very explicitly commanded submission, obedience, I am the only way, etc. The romans added the old crap back in but the new philosophy remained. The bible remains a book of deadly bullshit that many people believe. The gnostic literature very specifically denounced jaweh as the monster and jesus as the a human of knowledge. Which gnostic literature? All of it? It's a very broad category of beliefs, yet still insists on magical thinking in seemingly every incarnation. Jesus himself claimed yahweh was the father to whom we must all submit. Even if one does not believe Jesus was christ, Jesus did. He was a delusional narcissist, a cult leader who got himself and others killed. The abrahamic faiths are death cults. Christianity is explicit about it. It's baked into the concept of "christ". Magical thinking is deadly. Superstition is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting. You're the one deflecting. I criticized christianity for being a death cult. You brought up gnosticism as if it's somehow better or somehow erases christianity. Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature. Why can't we focus on reality instead of scripture? There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean? Then write about that instead of magic, and leave christ out of it completely. But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that. Because the many branches of christianity are all based on the same shitty story about an abuser god sending his son to die to save us from his own punishments. IT IS A DEATH CULT. And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy If it's christian, it's a death cult. If it respects the teachings of Jesus, it's a death cult, because Jesus taught that he is the son of god, that he is christ. Why are you ignoring what Jesus died for? Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god. The Nicene creed explicitly states Jesus is the son of god. What do you reckon the pope meant when he said "Jesus reveals the Father to us by involving us in his own relationship with Him"? Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations) Someone should've told Jesus. Lying is not moral, please stop sanewashing his claims. Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin? The one most christians believe, yes. But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil. The one time? LOL. God was commanding sacrifices since Genesis, including human ones: He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” Is this a figurative animal sacrifice? God loves the smell: Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth Why did he make us evil in the first place? That's what we need "salvation" from, the "sinful nature" he created us with. Leviticus 17: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Numbers 29: It is a day for you to blow the trumpets, and you shall offer a burnt offering, for a pleasing aroma to the Lord: one bull from the herd, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish; also their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for the bull, two tenths for the ram, and one tenth for each of the seven lambs; with one male goat for a sin offering, to make atonement for you Now let's get to Jesus. Hebrews 9: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. John 1: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! As previously mentioned, 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world Romans 5: More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Ephesians 1: In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace Colossians 1: For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Revelation 1: And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal Please stop pretending they don't exist. I'm not saying they're sensible. I'm saying there are more death cultists than you realize, and you enable them by pretending their book of bullshit isn't a huge problem. Can you acknowledge each of these points? A: yahweh is a death god B: the bible describes yahweh as loving C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time D: most christians think reading the bible is important E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs F: our beliefs drive our actions If you can follow that line of logic, you can understand why my parents are getting away with child abuse. There are entire communities that revere the bible, and I had no means of escape. This same abuse and worse is still happening to others because people like you refuse to hold them accountable. You think the poison is not a problem as long as no one drinks it, but the poison itself contains instructions that say "drink me and shove me down everyone else's throats, too." Repeat after me: christianity is a death cult. Magical thinking is killing us. If you have questions, ask. I can help you understand if you stop denying reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (11 replies) [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago Correct! Thank you. It is frightening how living human beings will defend literal death cults WHILE THEY ARE KILLING US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago Yeah... I figured that out a couple comments in. I don't let people on Internet ruin my day thankfully. Thanks for the heads up though permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago* (62 children) 75% of all people.. all painted with the same Brush off hate. This Includes cultural or christian atheists, and other forms of non theological religion they usually go out of their way to spread their mental illness You are thinking of zealots. The definition of zealotism is someone with strong uncompromising views and tries to push that view onto others. While you may be unfortunate to live in a place where dangerous zealots are centralised they do remain nothing but a load minority worldwide and do not speak for the infinite variety of personal spiritual contemplations that so many people privately have. I am not gonna continue this discussion again, i was already called a cancer by snoop just for respectfully disagreeing that 4/5of people supposedly are evil incarnate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 62 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago 75% of all people.. all painted with the same Brush off hate. They started the fight. Before bullshit, we had reality. People choose to lie about it and they don't care who it hurts. I'm not forcing anyone to lie. I'm just observing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (60 children) Stop defending liars. The abrahamic faiths are literal death cults. We're all better without superstition. You keep citing the number of believers as if that makes it right. It doesn't, and people are dying for it. We should all try to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 60 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (31 children) Nah man, the planet would be really better off without the Abrahamic religions, if you don't think so, you're not paying attention permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 31 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (25 children) So long as your flaws are your problems, you choose to live worse for some reason. But it is not just religion, but any kind of magical thinking. Like when someone refuses psych medicine because they believe they are special, and can overpower the disease with willpower. You put people at risk willingly by making irrational choices, just because they are convenient. Having said that, I have little issue with Cristian atheism, as it's not an actual religion, but an ideology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 25 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (23 children) That is concerning, given that the actual religious folk's religion is based on an anectodal book, that means they can twist it to whatever suits them. Like the prospherity gosspel. It is so easy to influence people. I mean, that's what MAGA is doing, treating their own religion book as "communist propaganda". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (17 children) Stop pretending that the 75% of humans who are ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a death cult and none of them worth defending when they are attacked with blind hate. IT'S NOT PRETENDING AND IT'S NOT BLIND. READ THE GODDAM BIBLE. IT IS A DEATH CULT. FUCK YOU FOR LYING ABOUT THIS. FUCK YOU FOR CHOOSING DEATH AGAIN AND AGAIN. USE YOUR GODDAM BRAIN, YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT. I was abused because you reject reality. A song for you: https://snoopsqueak.com/videos/fys Like i said i have read multiple but you would not consider them bibles because they do not glorify death in any shape or form. Name them. The one i found most influential did not even mention the afterlife. It was just about a cool guy being trying to do what was right. BY LYING TO EVERYONE AND DEMANDING THEY JOIN HIS DEATH CULT. STOP SANEWASHING THIS. I don’t believe in magical thinking Evidently, you do, and as a result you are rejecting reality so you can preserve your deadly stupidity. Whats is selfish about correctly Labeling meditation a form spiritually? Because nothing is "spiritual". It's a bullshit word. Describe your experiences in the context of reality, please. By not doing so, you are normalizing magical thinking. You are enabling my parents and worse, all so you can feel Very Special. You are very special. You don't need the bullshit. Grow the fuck up and take a stand for the truth, your cowardice is KILLING PEOPLE. Is that a bad word now too? It's a deadly mindset. If this hate is directed at every word that has some vague link to historical dogma i have bad news. STOP APPEALING TO POPULARITY. Just because many people have done it for a long time does not make it right. And stop pretending I am the aggressor. I am defending real life against your fake, stupid bullshit. I am not and have never defended a death cults Liar, you've done it all throughout these comments and you're still doing it. no one of the many people i know is in a death cult Liar, every christian you know is. and it certainly is not what the majority christians are about. Liar, it's the definition of christ. Citing a bible that is not the one they read/believe in is not going to change that. The bible describes a death god, encourages everyone to join a death cult, and real people really believe it. What part of this are you not getting? STOP REJECTING EVIDENCE, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (15 children) Insulting me for having a nuance that you fail to understand. Calling me a liar while i have been nothing but honest It's not nuanced, you're defending death cults. You are lying, and I highlighted each lie. Contrary to popular belief, lies do not require intent. If someone else told a lie and you repeat it earnestly, I'm still hearing a lie. It is blind because you refuse to see the difference between a book writen by one philosopher in one time versus one writen by a different philosopher in another time. It's not blind, because I see the text of the bible explicitly commanding abuse. You're pretending it doesn't exist, that it doesn't cause harm, while people are dying as a result of others' belief in it. There is no such thing as a singular bible. We are talking about christianity. The christian bible. There is no such thing as a singular christian identity (which i am not part of) It's in the name. They believe in christ, magical savior human sacrifice whom they must submit to if they want to avoid punishment. You seem to believe that there and that it somehow has the “magic” to turn people evil but i will tell you all the evils are man made and burning books is not going to help you at all. Read the bible and stop putting words in my mouth. I'd be happy if the damn thing had a "fiction" label, but many real human beings are pretending it is true. No i do not know the name of the book i read 22 years ago. Also its not in English. Useless, then. Focus on my points. You dont get to dictate what words mean, and if you try you will only find that everyone will stop listening to you. Neither do you. Think really hard about what "christianity" means, what "christ" is in context. It's a death cult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (13 children) More delusional and hateful then the average religious person. Mr. Spiritual thinks I'm delusional. MAGIC ISN'T REAL, DUMB FUCK. I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them. I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you're a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer. Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them. No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that. The ones who try to find a nicer "interpretation" are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly. You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad” HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does. Christ is the character central to the philosophy. That's the problem. What is "christ"? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to. The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy. That's really fucking stupid. "Christ" is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he's also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies. Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (5 replies) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (3 children) No doubt painting it all with one brush is reductionist, there are good people in all corners of the world. What I would say is, even the genuinely good actors practicing these faiths are all acting as cover for the monsters, whether they want to or not. The most devout people should rather denounce their faith as to not enable the evil that gets perpetrated in their name. Of course that won't happen, but I don't know how else we can reconcile with the idea that these faiths are far, far, far, more destructive than productive, just accounting for the few vile wolves in sheep's clothing that are actively working towards the destruction of this planet despite the rest of us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago I think that may be the catch 22 that leaves us where we are, unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why would someone who already denounces the church and the evils of institutional religion. But happens to have private contemplations of a spiritual nature, Denounce that personal experience also? Because it's more honest, and the closer we get to the truth, the more lives we can save. Nothing is "spiritual". Reframe the experience in reality. I promise you can keep all the benefits, just get rid of the needless risk. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (16 children) I don’t know. She really never talks about it. Maybe you should ask. She might be crazier than you think. I don’t think she believes the angels influence the earth. Everything that exists influences everything else. If she believes angels exist, what is their purpose? preying to them does indicate an expectation they can guide one personaly, so I would call that influence again. Magical thinking. she is the only Christian i know to actually believe in something that literally magical Wrong. Every christian who believes in christ (which is all of them, it's in the fucking name) believes in magic. we both know is a bunch of nonsense so i am not surprise the logic makes no sense. How do you not see the danger in encouraging grown-ass adults to reject logic? Incredibly sweet and open minded woman though On the surface. i don’t think she is even capable of hate. You might say the same if you met my abusive mother because SHE believes she is a good person, because she believes a magic man in the sky loves her for abusing her kids. Connect the fucking dots and stop defending death cults, you miserable coward, children are dying for your bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (14 children) You are setting yourself up to become an abuser. Fuck you for victim blaming. There's a reason I chose not to have kids. I did not choose to be abused. Reminder: I was VIOLENTLY BRAINWASHED against my will. What kind of person do you think that produces? I can be kind, but you have consistently rejected reality to defend the exact same ideas that ruined my life. Stop being selfish and start listening to reason, for fuck's sake. How much long can you carry this hate before you attack someone for the crime of wearing a cross shaped heirloom. My "hate" is a response to their hate. Stop falling for DARVO, they are killing us. Hate begans hate. You mean "begets". Christians hate and call it love. I was abused because fuckshits like you refuse to look beneath the surface. And hate is not something you can keep under control. It will explode unless you actually try and find peace. I am trying to find peace. You won't let me. You're saying we should all sit back and let ourselves be slaughtered. Fuck that. I am not your enemy. You are, evidently. You've consistently chosen death instead of life. I am undergoing your toxicity to try and be your friend. And I've been lied to before. Saying things doesn't make them true. Liars aren't my friends. I dont care what people claim that they are good. But that's exactly what you're doing. I look at their actions. Look at your own actions, in context. You know I was abused because people believe the bible, yet you're telling me I'm wrong for criticizing the death cult that hurt me and is hurting us all right now. It's why I call you stupid. You are not applying reason. Do they judge others, do they show compassion to strangers.. Compassion is my default, but you lost that when you defended abusers. I'm still waiting for you to stop doing that, yet you continue choosing death for all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (12 children) All I've been asking this whole time is: Please stop defending my abusers. More children are being violently brainwashed every day, and you are defending their abusers, too. I wouldn't do this if it was just about me. Please think. I have some videos on my YouTube channel where I read some bible chapters. Maybe you should take a look. It's worse than you think. I plan on making more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (10 children) I know how bad some bibles are, you don’t need to tell me yaweh is the evident bad guy. But I do need to tell you that christ was yahweh, and that christians believe Jesus was christ. This is why it is bad from the ground up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (8 children) And i need to tell you that one of the 4 gospels that are included in the latest testament specifically says Jesus was the biological son of Joseph and Maria. Point being? The lineage of Jesus is described twice, once in Mark and once in Luke. They contradict each other; one claims Joseph is the son of Jacob, one claims Joseph is the son of Heli. Yet both lead back up to Abraham. Jesus was human and thus god is humans getting to choose their own destiny and studying morality. That's not what Jesus said in the gospels. He very explicitly commanded submission, obedience, I am the only way, etc. The romans added the old crap back in but the new philosophy remained. The bible remains a book of deadly bullshit that many people believe. The gnostic literature very specifically denounced jaweh as the monster and jesus as the a human of knowledge. Which gnostic literature? All of it? It's a very broad category of beliefs, yet still insists on magical thinking in seemingly every incarnation. Jesus himself claimed yahweh was the father to whom we must all submit. Even if one does not believe Jesus was christ, Jesus did. He was a delusional narcissist, a cult leader who got himself and others killed. The abrahamic faiths are death cults. Christianity is explicit about it. It's baked into the concept of "christ". Magical thinking is deadly. Superstition is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting. You're the one deflecting. I criticized christianity for being a death cult. You brought up gnosticism as if it's somehow better or somehow erases christianity. Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature. Why can't we focus on reality instead of scripture? There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean? Then write about that instead of magic, and leave christ out of it completely. But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that. Because the many branches of christianity are all based on the same shitty story about an abuser god sending his son to die to save us from his own punishments. IT IS A DEATH CULT. And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy If it's christian, it's a death cult. If it respects the teachings of Jesus, it's a death cult, because Jesus taught that he is the son of god, that he is christ. Why are you ignoring what Jesus died for? Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god. The Nicene creed explicitly states Jesus is the son of god. What do you reckon the pope meant when he said "Jesus reveals the Father to us by involving us in his own relationship with Him"? Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations) Someone should've told Jesus. Lying is not moral, please stop sanewashing his claims. Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin? The one most christians believe, yes. But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil. The one time? LOL. God was commanding sacrifices since Genesis, including human ones: He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” Is this a figurative animal sacrifice? God loves the smell: Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth Why did he make us evil in the first place? That's what we need "salvation" from, the "sinful nature" he created us with. Leviticus 17: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Numbers 29: It is a day for you to blow the trumpets, and you shall offer a burnt offering, for a pleasing aroma to the Lord: one bull from the herd, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish; also their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for the bull, two tenths for the ram, and one tenth for each of the seven lambs; with one male goat for a sin offering, to make atonement for you Now let's get to Jesus. Hebrews 9: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. John 1: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! As previously mentioned, 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world Romans 5: More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Ephesians 1: In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace Colossians 1: For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Revelation 1: And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal Please stop pretending they don't exist. I'm not saying they're sensible. I'm saying there are more death cultists than you realize, and you enable them by pretending their book of bullshit isn't a huge problem. Can you acknowledge each of these points? A: yahweh is a death god B: the bible describes yahweh as loving C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time D: most christians think reading the bible is important E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs F: our beliefs drive our actions If you can follow that line of logic, you can understand why my parents are getting away with child abuse. There are entire communities that revere the bible, and I had no means of escape. This same abuse and worse is still happening to others because people like you refuse to hold them accountable. You think the poison is not a problem as long as no one drinks it, but the poison itself contains instructions that say "drink me and shove me down everyone else's throats, too." Repeat after me: christianity is a death cult. Magical thinking is killing us. If you have questions, ask. I can help you understand if you stop denying reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (11 replies) [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago Correct! Thank you. It is frightening how living human beings will defend literal death cults WHILE THEY ARE KILLING US. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago* (62 children) 75% of all people.. all painted with the same Brush off hate. This Includes cultural or christian atheists, and other forms of non theological religion they usually go out of their way to spread their mental illness You are thinking of zealots. The definition of zealotism is someone with strong uncompromising views and tries to push that view onto others. While you may be unfortunate to live in a place where dangerous zealots are centralised they do remain nothing but a load minority worldwide and do not speak for the infinite variety of personal spiritual contemplations that so many people privately have. I am not gonna continue this discussion again, i was already called a cancer by snoop just for respectfully disagreeing that 4/5of people supposedly are evil incarnate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 62 child comments replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago 75% of all people.. all painted with the same Brush off hate. They started the fight. Before bullshit, we had reality. People choose to lie about it and they don't care who it hurts. I'm not forcing anyone to lie. I'm just observing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (60 children) Stop defending liars. The abrahamic faiths are literal death cults. We're all better without superstition. You keep citing the number of believers as if that makes it right. It doesn't, and people are dying for it. We should all try to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 60 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (31 children) Nah man, the planet would be really better off without the Abrahamic religions, if you don't think so, you're not paying attention permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 31 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (25 children) So long as your flaws are your problems, you choose to live worse for some reason. But it is not just religion, but any kind of magical thinking. Like when someone refuses psych medicine because they believe they are special, and can overpower the disease with willpower. You put people at risk willingly by making irrational choices, just because they are convenient. Having said that, I have little issue with Cristian atheism, as it's not an actual religion, but an ideology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 25 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (23 children) That is concerning, given that the actual religious folk's religion is based on an anectodal book, that means they can twist it to whatever suits them. Like the prospherity gosspel. It is so easy to influence people. I mean, that's what MAGA is doing, treating their own religion book as "communist propaganda". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (17 children) Stop pretending that the 75% of humans who are ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a death cult and none of them worth defending when they are attacked with blind hate. IT'S NOT PRETENDING AND IT'S NOT BLIND. READ THE GODDAM BIBLE. IT IS A DEATH CULT. FUCK YOU FOR LYING ABOUT THIS. FUCK YOU FOR CHOOSING DEATH AGAIN AND AGAIN. USE YOUR GODDAM BRAIN, YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT. I was abused because you reject reality. A song for you: https://snoopsqueak.com/videos/fys Like i said i have read multiple but you would not consider them bibles because they do not glorify death in any shape or form. Name them. The one i found most influential did not even mention the afterlife. It was just about a cool guy being trying to do what was right. BY LYING TO EVERYONE AND DEMANDING THEY JOIN HIS DEATH CULT. STOP SANEWASHING THIS. I don’t believe in magical thinking Evidently, you do, and as a result you are rejecting reality so you can preserve your deadly stupidity. Whats is selfish about correctly Labeling meditation a form spiritually? Because nothing is "spiritual". It's a bullshit word. Describe your experiences in the context of reality, please. By not doing so, you are normalizing magical thinking. You are enabling my parents and worse, all so you can feel Very Special. You are very special. You don't need the bullshit. Grow the fuck up and take a stand for the truth, your cowardice is KILLING PEOPLE. Is that a bad word now too? It's a deadly mindset. If this hate is directed at every word that has some vague link to historical dogma i have bad news. STOP APPEALING TO POPULARITY. Just because many people have done it for a long time does not make it right. And stop pretending I am the aggressor. I am defending real life against your fake, stupid bullshit. I am not and have never defended a death cults Liar, you've done it all throughout these comments and you're still doing it. no one of the many people i know is in a death cult Liar, every christian you know is. and it certainly is not what the majority christians are about. Liar, it's the definition of christ. Citing a bible that is not the one they read/believe in is not going to change that. The bible describes a death god, encourages everyone to join a death cult, and real people really believe it. What part of this are you not getting? STOP REJECTING EVIDENCE, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (15 children) Insulting me for having a nuance that you fail to understand. Calling me a liar while i have been nothing but honest It's not nuanced, you're defending death cults. You are lying, and I highlighted each lie. Contrary to popular belief, lies do not require intent. If someone else told a lie and you repeat it earnestly, I'm still hearing a lie. It is blind because you refuse to see the difference between a book writen by one philosopher in one time versus one writen by a different philosopher in another time. It's not blind, because I see the text of the bible explicitly commanding abuse. You're pretending it doesn't exist, that it doesn't cause harm, while people are dying as a result of others' belief in it. There is no such thing as a singular bible. We are talking about christianity. The christian bible. There is no such thing as a singular christian identity (which i am not part of) It's in the name. They believe in christ, magical savior human sacrifice whom they must submit to if they want to avoid punishment. You seem to believe that there and that it somehow has the “magic” to turn people evil but i will tell you all the evils are man made and burning books is not going to help you at all. Read the bible and stop putting words in my mouth. I'd be happy if the damn thing had a "fiction" label, but many real human beings are pretending it is true. No i do not know the name of the book i read 22 years ago. Also its not in English. Useless, then. Focus on my points. You dont get to dictate what words mean, and if you try you will only find that everyone will stop listening to you. Neither do you. Think really hard about what "christianity" means, what "christ" is in context. It's a death cult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (13 children) More delusional and hateful then the average religious person. Mr. Spiritual thinks I'm delusional. MAGIC ISN'T REAL, DUMB FUCK. I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them. I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you're a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer. Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them. No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that. The ones who try to find a nicer "interpretation" are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly. You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad” HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does. Christ is the character central to the philosophy. That's the problem. What is "christ"? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to. The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy. That's really fucking stupid. "Christ" is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he's also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies. Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (5 replies) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (3 children) No doubt painting it all with one brush is reductionist, there are good people in all corners of the world. What I would say is, even the genuinely good actors practicing these faiths are all acting as cover for the monsters, whether they want to or not. The most devout people should rather denounce their faith as to not enable the evil that gets perpetrated in their name. Of course that won't happen, but I don't know how else we can reconcile with the idea that these faiths are far, far, far, more destructive than productive, just accounting for the few vile wolves in sheep's clothing that are actively working towards the destruction of this planet despite the rest of us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago I think that may be the catch 22 that leaves us where we are, unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why would someone who already denounces the church and the evils of institutional religion. But happens to have private contemplations of a spiritual nature, Denounce that personal experience also? Because it's more honest, and the closer we get to the truth, the more lives we can save. Nothing is "spiritual". Reframe the experience in reality. I promise you can keep all the benefits, just get rid of the needless risk. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (16 children) I don’t know. She really never talks about it. Maybe you should ask. She might be crazier than you think. I don’t think she believes the angels influence the earth. Everything that exists influences everything else. If she believes angels exist, what is their purpose? preying to them does indicate an expectation they can guide one personaly, so I would call that influence again. Magical thinking. she is the only Christian i know to actually believe in something that literally magical Wrong. Every christian who believes in christ (which is all of them, it's in the fucking name) believes in magic. we both know is a bunch of nonsense so i am not surprise the logic makes no sense. How do you not see the danger in encouraging grown-ass adults to reject logic? Incredibly sweet and open minded woman though On the surface. i don’t think she is even capable of hate. You might say the same if you met my abusive mother because SHE believes she is a good person, because she believes a magic man in the sky loves her for abusing her kids. Connect the fucking dots and stop defending death cults, you miserable coward, children are dying for your bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (14 children) You are setting yourself up to become an abuser. Fuck you for victim blaming. There's a reason I chose not to have kids. I did not choose to be abused. Reminder: I was VIOLENTLY BRAINWASHED against my will. What kind of person do you think that produces? I can be kind, but you have consistently rejected reality to defend the exact same ideas that ruined my life. Stop being selfish and start listening to reason, for fuck's sake. How much long can you carry this hate before you attack someone for the crime of wearing a cross shaped heirloom. My "hate" is a response to their hate. Stop falling for DARVO, they are killing us. Hate begans hate. You mean "begets". Christians hate and call it love. I was abused because fuckshits like you refuse to look beneath the surface. And hate is not something you can keep under control. It will explode unless you actually try and find peace. I am trying to find peace. You won't let me. You're saying we should all sit back and let ourselves be slaughtered. Fuck that. I am not your enemy. You are, evidently. You've consistently chosen death instead of life. I am undergoing your toxicity to try and be your friend. And I've been lied to before. Saying things doesn't make them true. Liars aren't my friends. I dont care what people claim that they are good. But that's exactly what you're doing. I look at their actions. Look at your own actions, in context. You know I was abused because people believe the bible, yet you're telling me I'm wrong for criticizing the death cult that hurt me and is hurting us all right now. It's why I call you stupid. You are not applying reason. Do they judge others, do they show compassion to strangers.. Compassion is my default, but you lost that when you defended abusers. I'm still waiting for you to stop doing that, yet you continue choosing death for all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (12 children) All I've been asking this whole time is: Please stop defending my abusers. More children are being violently brainwashed every day, and you are defending their abusers, too. I wouldn't do this if it was just about me. Please think. I have some videos on my YouTube channel where I read some bible chapters. Maybe you should take a look. It's worse than you think. I plan on making more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (10 children) I know how bad some bibles are, you don’t need to tell me yaweh is the evident bad guy. But I do need to tell you that christ was yahweh, and that christians believe Jesus was christ. This is why it is bad from the ground up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (8 children) And i need to tell you that one of the 4 gospels that are included in the latest testament specifically says Jesus was the biological son of Joseph and Maria. Point being? The lineage of Jesus is described twice, once in Mark and once in Luke. They contradict each other; one claims Joseph is the son of Jacob, one claims Joseph is the son of Heli. Yet both lead back up to Abraham. Jesus was human and thus god is humans getting to choose their own destiny and studying morality. That's not what Jesus said in the gospels. He very explicitly commanded submission, obedience, I am the only way, etc. The romans added the old crap back in but the new philosophy remained. The bible remains a book of deadly bullshit that many people believe. The gnostic literature very specifically denounced jaweh as the monster and jesus as the a human of knowledge. Which gnostic literature? All of it? It's a very broad category of beliefs, yet still insists on magical thinking in seemingly every incarnation. Jesus himself claimed yahweh was the father to whom we must all submit. Even if one does not believe Jesus was christ, Jesus did. He was a delusional narcissist, a cult leader who got himself and others killed. The abrahamic faiths are death cults. Christianity is explicit about it. It's baked into the concept of "christ". Magical thinking is deadly. Superstition is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting. You're the one deflecting. I criticized christianity for being a death cult. You brought up gnosticism as if it's somehow better or somehow erases christianity. Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature. Why can't we focus on reality instead of scripture? There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean? Then write about that instead of magic, and leave christ out of it completely. But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that. Because the many branches of christianity are all based on the same shitty story about an abuser god sending his son to die to save us from his own punishments. IT IS A DEATH CULT. And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy If it's christian, it's a death cult. If it respects the teachings of Jesus, it's a death cult, because Jesus taught that he is the son of god, that he is christ. Why are you ignoring what Jesus died for? Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god. The Nicene creed explicitly states Jesus is the son of god. What do you reckon the pope meant when he said "Jesus reveals the Father to us by involving us in his own relationship with Him"? Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations) Someone should've told Jesus. Lying is not moral, please stop sanewashing his claims. Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin? The one most christians believe, yes. But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil. The one time? LOL. God was commanding sacrifices since Genesis, including human ones: He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” Is this a figurative animal sacrifice? God loves the smell: Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth Why did he make us evil in the first place? That's what we need "salvation" from, the "sinful nature" he created us with. Leviticus 17: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Numbers 29: It is a day for you to blow the trumpets, and you shall offer a burnt offering, for a pleasing aroma to the Lord: one bull from the herd, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish; also their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for the bull, two tenths for the ram, and one tenth for each of the seven lambs; with one male goat for a sin offering, to make atonement for you Now let's get to Jesus. Hebrews 9: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. John 1: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! As previously mentioned, 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world Romans 5: More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Ephesians 1: In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace Colossians 1: For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Revelation 1: And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal Please stop pretending they don't exist. I'm not saying they're sensible. I'm saying there are more death cultists than you realize, and you enable them by pretending their book of bullshit isn't a huge problem. Can you acknowledge each of these points? A: yahweh is a death god B: the bible describes yahweh as loving C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time D: most christians think reading the bible is important E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs F: our beliefs drive our actions If you can follow that line of logic, you can understand why my parents are getting away with child abuse. There are entire communities that revere the bible, and I had no means of escape. This same abuse and worse is still happening to others because people like you refuse to hold them accountable. You think the poison is not a problem as long as no one drinks it, but the poison itself contains instructions that say "drink me and shove me down everyone else's throats, too." Repeat after me: christianity is a death cult. Magical thinking is killing us. If you have questions, ask. I can help you understand if you stop denying reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (11 replies)
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago 75% of all people.. all painted with the same Brush off hate. They started the fight. Before bullshit, we had reality. People choose to lie about it and they don't care who it hurts. I'm not forcing anyone to lie. I'm just observing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (60 children) Stop defending liars. The abrahamic faiths are literal death cults. We're all better without superstition. You keep citing the number of believers as if that makes it right. It doesn't, and people are dying for it. We should all try to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 60 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (31 children) Nah man, the planet would be really better off without the Abrahamic religions, if you don't think so, you're not paying attention permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 31 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (25 children) So long as your flaws are your problems, you choose to live worse for some reason. But it is not just religion, but any kind of magical thinking. Like when someone refuses psych medicine because they believe they are special, and can overpower the disease with willpower. You put people at risk willingly by making irrational choices, just because they are convenient. Having said that, I have little issue with Cristian atheism, as it's not an actual religion, but an ideology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 25 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (23 children) That is concerning, given that the actual religious folk's religion is based on an anectodal book, that means they can twist it to whatever suits them. Like the prospherity gosspel. It is so easy to influence people. I mean, that's what MAGA is doing, treating their own religion book as "communist propaganda". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (17 children) Stop pretending that the 75% of humans who are ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a death cult and none of them worth defending when they are attacked with blind hate. IT'S NOT PRETENDING AND IT'S NOT BLIND. READ THE GODDAM BIBLE. IT IS A DEATH CULT. FUCK YOU FOR LYING ABOUT THIS. FUCK YOU FOR CHOOSING DEATH AGAIN AND AGAIN. USE YOUR GODDAM BRAIN, YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT. I was abused because you reject reality. A song for you: https://snoopsqueak.com/videos/fys Like i said i have read multiple but you would not consider them bibles because they do not glorify death in any shape or form. Name them. The one i found most influential did not even mention the afterlife. It was just about a cool guy being trying to do what was right. BY LYING TO EVERYONE AND DEMANDING THEY JOIN HIS DEATH CULT. STOP SANEWASHING THIS. I don’t believe in magical thinking Evidently, you do, and as a result you are rejecting reality so you can preserve your deadly stupidity. Whats is selfish about correctly Labeling meditation a form spiritually? Because nothing is "spiritual". It's a bullshit word. Describe your experiences in the context of reality, please. By not doing so, you are normalizing magical thinking. You are enabling my parents and worse, all so you can feel Very Special. You are very special. You don't need the bullshit. Grow the fuck up and take a stand for the truth, your cowardice is KILLING PEOPLE. Is that a bad word now too? It's a deadly mindset. If this hate is directed at every word that has some vague link to historical dogma i have bad news. STOP APPEALING TO POPULARITY. Just because many people have done it for a long time does not make it right. And stop pretending I am the aggressor. I am defending real life against your fake, stupid bullshit. I am not and have never defended a death cults Liar, you've done it all throughout these comments and you're still doing it. no one of the many people i know is in a death cult Liar, every christian you know is. and it certainly is not what the majority christians are about. Liar, it's the definition of christ. Citing a bible that is not the one they read/believe in is not going to change that. The bible describes a death god, encourages everyone to join a death cult, and real people really believe it. What part of this are you not getting? STOP REJECTING EVIDENCE, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (15 children) Insulting me for having a nuance that you fail to understand. Calling me a liar while i have been nothing but honest It's not nuanced, you're defending death cults. You are lying, and I highlighted each lie. Contrary to popular belief, lies do not require intent. If someone else told a lie and you repeat it earnestly, I'm still hearing a lie. It is blind because you refuse to see the difference between a book writen by one philosopher in one time versus one writen by a different philosopher in another time. It's not blind, because I see the text of the bible explicitly commanding abuse. You're pretending it doesn't exist, that it doesn't cause harm, while people are dying as a result of others' belief in it. There is no such thing as a singular bible. We are talking about christianity. The christian bible. There is no such thing as a singular christian identity (which i am not part of) It's in the name. They believe in christ, magical savior human sacrifice whom they must submit to if they want to avoid punishment. You seem to believe that there and that it somehow has the “magic” to turn people evil but i will tell you all the evils are man made and burning books is not going to help you at all. Read the bible and stop putting words in my mouth. I'd be happy if the damn thing had a "fiction" label, but many real human beings are pretending it is true. No i do not know the name of the book i read 22 years ago. Also its not in English. Useless, then. Focus on my points. You dont get to dictate what words mean, and if you try you will only find that everyone will stop listening to you. Neither do you. Think really hard about what "christianity" means, what "christ" is in context. It's a death cult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (13 children) More delusional and hateful then the average religious person. Mr. Spiritual thinks I'm delusional. MAGIC ISN'T REAL, DUMB FUCK. I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them. I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you're a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer. Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them. No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that. The ones who try to find a nicer "interpretation" are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly. You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad” HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does. Christ is the character central to the philosophy. That's the problem. What is "christ"? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to. The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy. That's really fucking stupid. "Christ" is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he's also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies. Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (5 replies) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (3 children) No doubt painting it all with one brush is reductionist, there are good people in all corners of the world. What I would say is, even the genuinely good actors practicing these faiths are all acting as cover for the monsters, whether they want to or not. The most devout people should rather denounce their faith as to not enable the evil that gets perpetrated in their name. Of course that won't happen, but I don't know how else we can reconcile with the idea that these faiths are far, far, far, more destructive than productive, just accounting for the few vile wolves in sheep's clothing that are actively working towards the destruction of this planet despite the rest of us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago I think that may be the catch 22 that leaves us where we are, unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why would someone who already denounces the church and the evils of institutional religion. But happens to have private contemplations of a spiritual nature, Denounce that personal experience also? Because it's more honest, and the closer we get to the truth, the more lives we can save. Nothing is "spiritual". Reframe the experience in reality. I promise you can keep all the benefits, just get rid of the needless risk. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (16 children) I don’t know. She really never talks about it. Maybe you should ask. She might be crazier than you think. I don’t think she believes the angels influence the earth. Everything that exists influences everything else. If she believes angels exist, what is their purpose? preying to them does indicate an expectation they can guide one personaly, so I would call that influence again. Magical thinking. she is the only Christian i know to actually believe in something that literally magical Wrong. Every christian who believes in christ (which is all of them, it's in the fucking name) believes in magic. we both know is a bunch of nonsense so i am not surprise the logic makes no sense. How do you not see the danger in encouraging grown-ass adults to reject logic? Incredibly sweet and open minded woman though On the surface. i don’t think she is even capable of hate. You might say the same if you met my abusive mother because SHE believes she is a good person, because she believes a magic man in the sky loves her for abusing her kids. Connect the fucking dots and stop defending death cults, you miserable coward, children are dying for your bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (14 children) You are setting yourself up to become an abuser. Fuck you for victim blaming. There's a reason I chose not to have kids. I did not choose to be abused. Reminder: I was VIOLENTLY BRAINWASHED against my will. What kind of person do you think that produces? I can be kind, but you have consistently rejected reality to defend the exact same ideas that ruined my life. Stop being selfish and start listening to reason, for fuck's sake. How much long can you carry this hate before you attack someone for the crime of wearing a cross shaped heirloom. My "hate" is a response to their hate. Stop falling for DARVO, they are killing us. Hate begans hate. You mean "begets". Christians hate and call it love. I was abused because fuckshits like you refuse to look beneath the surface. And hate is not something you can keep under control. It will explode unless you actually try and find peace. I am trying to find peace. You won't let me. You're saying we should all sit back and let ourselves be slaughtered. Fuck that. I am not your enemy. You are, evidently. You've consistently chosen death instead of life. I am undergoing your toxicity to try and be your friend. And I've been lied to before. Saying things doesn't make them true. Liars aren't my friends. I dont care what people claim that they are good. But that's exactly what you're doing. I look at their actions. Look at your own actions, in context. You know I was abused because people believe the bible, yet you're telling me I'm wrong for criticizing the death cult that hurt me and is hurting us all right now. It's why I call you stupid. You are not applying reason. Do they judge others, do they show compassion to strangers.. Compassion is my default, but you lost that when you defended abusers. I'm still waiting for you to stop doing that, yet you continue choosing death for all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (12 children) All I've been asking this whole time is: Please stop defending my abusers. More children are being violently brainwashed every day, and you are defending their abusers, too. I wouldn't do this if it was just about me. Please think. I have some videos on my YouTube channel where I read some bible chapters. Maybe you should take a look. It's worse than you think. I plan on making more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (10 children) I know how bad some bibles are, you don’t need to tell me yaweh is the evident bad guy. But I do need to tell you that christ was yahweh, and that christians believe Jesus was christ. This is why it is bad from the ground up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (8 children) And i need to tell you that one of the 4 gospels that are included in the latest testament specifically says Jesus was the biological son of Joseph and Maria. Point being? The lineage of Jesus is described twice, once in Mark and once in Luke. They contradict each other; one claims Joseph is the son of Jacob, one claims Joseph is the son of Heli. Yet both lead back up to Abraham. Jesus was human and thus god is humans getting to choose their own destiny and studying morality. That's not what Jesus said in the gospels. He very explicitly commanded submission, obedience, I am the only way, etc. The romans added the old crap back in but the new philosophy remained. The bible remains a book of deadly bullshit that many people believe. The gnostic literature very specifically denounced jaweh as the monster and jesus as the a human of knowledge. Which gnostic literature? All of it? It's a very broad category of beliefs, yet still insists on magical thinking in seemingly every incarnation. Jesus himself claimed yahweh was the father to whom we must all submit. Even if one does not believe Jesus was christ, Jesus did. He was a delusional narcissist, a cult leader who got himself and others killed. The abrahamic faiths are death cults. Christianity is explicit about it. It's baked into the concept of "christ". Magical thinking is deadly. Superstition is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting. You're the one deflecting. I criticized christianity for being a death cult. You brought up gnosticism as if it's somehow better or somehow erases christianity. Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature. Why can't we focus on reality instead of scripture? There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean? Then write about that instead of magic, and leave christ out of it completely. But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that. Because the many branches of christianity are all based on the same shitty story about an abuser god sending his son to die to save us from his own punishments. IT IS A DEATH CULT. And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy If it's christian, it's a death cult. If it respects the teachings of Jesus, it's a death cult, because Jesus taught that he is the son of god, that he is christ. Why are you ignoring what Jesus died for? Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god. The Nicene creed explicitly states Jesus is the son of god. What do you reckon the pope meant when he said "Jesus reveals the Father to us by involving us in his own relationship with Him"? Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations) Someone should've told Jesus. Lying is not moral, please stop sanewashing his claims. Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin? The one most christians believe, yes. But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil. The one time? LOL. God was commanding sacrifices since Genesis, including human ones: He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” Is this a figurative animal sacrifice? God loves the smell: Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth Why did he make us evil in the first place? That's what we need "salvation" from, the "sinful nature" he created us with. Leviticus 17: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Numbers 29: It is a day for you to blow the trumpets, and you shall offer a burnt offering, for a pleasing aroma to the Lord: one bull from the herd, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish; also their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for the bull, two tenths for the ram, and one tenth for each of the seven lambs; with one male goat for a sin offering, to make atonement for you Now let's get to Jesus. Hebrews 9: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. John 1: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! As previously mentioned, 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world Romans 5: More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Ephesians 1: In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace Colossians 1: For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Revelation 1: And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal Please stop pretending they don't exist. I'm not saying they're sensible. I'm saying there are more death cultists than you realize, and you enable them by pretending their book of bullshit isn't a huge problem. Can you acknowledge each of these points? A: yahweh is a death god B: the bible describes yahweh as loving C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time D: most christians think reading the bible is important E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs F: our beliefs drive our actions If you can follow that line of logic, you can understand why my parents are getting away with child abuse. There are entire communities that revere the bible, and I had no means of escape. This same abuse and worse is still happening to others because people like you refuse to hold them accountable. You think the poison is not a problem as long as no one drinks it, but the poison itself contains instructions that say "drink me and shove me down everyone else's throats, too." Repeat after me: christianity is a death cult. Magical thinking is killing us. If you have questions, ask. I can help you understand if you stop denying reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (11 replies)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (31 children) Nah man, the planet would be really better off without the Abrahamic religions, if you don't think so, you're not paying attention permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 31 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (25 children) So long as your flaws are your problems, you choose to live worse for some reason. But it is not just religion, but any kind of magical thinking. Like when someone refuses psych medicine because they believe they are special, and can overpower the disease with willpower. You put people at risk willingly by making irrational choices, just because they are convenient. Having said that, I have little issue with Cristian atheism, as it's not an actual religion, but an ideology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 25 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (23 children) That is concerning, given that the actual religious folk's religion is based on an anectodal book, that means they can twist it to whatever suits them. Like the prospherity gosspel. It is so easy to influence people. I mean, that's what MAGA is doing, treating their own religion book as "communist propaganda". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (17 children) Stop pretending that the 75% of humans who are ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a death cult and none of them worth defending when they are attacked with blind hate. IT'S NOT PRETENDING AND IT'S NOT BLIND. READ THE GODDAM BIBLE. IT IS A DEATH CULT. FUCK YOU FOR LYING ABOUT THIS. FUCK YOU FOR CHOOSING DEATH AGAIN AND AGAIN. USE YOUR GODDAM BRAIN, YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT. I was abused because you reject reality. A song for you: https://snoopsqueak.com/videos/fys Like i said i have read multiple but you would not consider them bibles because they do not glorify death in any shape or form. Name them. The one i found most influential did not even mention the afterlife. It was just about a cool guy being trying to do what was right. BY LYING TO EVERYONE AND DEMANDING THEY JOIN HIS DEATH CULT. STOP SANEWASHING THIS. I don’t believe in magical thinking Evidently, you do, and as a result you are rejecting reality so you can preserve your deadly stupidity. Whats is selfish about correctly Labeling meditation a form spiritually? Because nothing is "spiritual". It's a bullshit word. Describe your experiences in the context of reality, please. By not doing so, you are normalizing magical thinking. You are enabling my parents and worse, all so you can feel Very Special. You are very special. You don't need the bullshit. Grow the fuck up and take a stand for the truth, your cowardice is KILLING PEOPLE. Is that a bad word now too? It's a deadly mindset. If this hate is directed at every word that has some vague link to historical dogma i have bad news. STOP APPEALING TO POPULARITY. Just because many people have done it for a long time does not make it right. And stop pretending I am the aggressor. I am defending real life against your fake, stupid bullshit. I am not and have never defended a death cults Liar, you've done it all throughout these comments and you're still doing it. no one of the many people i know is in a death cult Liar, every christian you know is. and it certainly is not what the majority christians are about. Liar, it's the definition of christ. Citing a bible that is not the one they read/believe in is not going to change that. The bible describes a death god, encourages everyone to join a death cult, and real people really believe it. What part of this are you not getting? STOP REJECTING EVIDENCE, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (15 children) Insulting me for having a nuance that you fail to understand. Calling me a liar while i have been nothing but honest It's not nuanced, you're defending death cults. You are lying, and I highlighted each lie. Contrary to popular belief, lies do not require intent. If someone else told a lie and you repeat it earnestly, I'm still hearing a lie. It is blind because you refuse to see the difference between a book writen by one philosopher in one time versus one writen by a different philosopher in another time. It's not blind, because I see the text of the bible explicitly commanding abuse. You're pretending it doesn't exist, that it doesn't cause harm, while people are dying as a result of others' belief in it. There is no such thing as a singular bible. We are talking about christianity. The christian bible. There is no such thing as a singular christian identity (which i am not part of) It's in the name. They believe in christ, magical savior human sacrifice whom they must submit to if they want to avoid punishment. You seem to believe that there and that it somehow has the “magic” to turn people evil but i will tell you all the evils are man made and burning books is not going to help you at all. Read the bible and stop putting words in my mouth. I'd be happy if the damn thing had a "fiction" label, but many real human beings are pretending it is true. No i do not know the name of the book i read 22 years ago. Also its not in English. Useless, then. Focus on my points. You dont get to dictate what words mean, and if you try you will only find that everyone will stop listening to you. Neither do you. Think really hard about what "christianity" means, what "christ" is in context. It's a death cult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (13 children) More delusional and hateful then the average religious person. Mr. Spiritual thinks I'm delusional. MAGIC ISN'T REAL, DUMB FUCK. I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them. I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you're a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer. Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them. No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that. The ones who try to find a nicer "interpretation" are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly. You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad” HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does. Christ is the character central to the philosophy. That's the problem. What is "christ"? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to. The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy. That's really fucking stupid. "Christ" is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he's also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies. Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (5 replies) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (3 children) No doubt painting it all with one brush is reductionist, there are good people in all corners of the world. What I would say is, even the genuinely good actors practicing these faiths are all acting as cover for the monsters, whether they want to or not. The most devout people should rather denounce their faith as to not enable the evil that gets perpetrated in their name. Of course that won't happen, but I don't know how else we can reconcile with the idea that these faiths are far, far, far, more destructive than productive, just accounting for the few vile wolves in sheep's clothing that are actively working towards the destruction of this planet despite the rest of us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago I think that may be the catch 22 that leaves us where we are, unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why would someone who already denounces the church and the evils of institutional religion. But happens to have private contemplations of a spiritual nature, Denounce that personal experience also? Because it's more honest, and the closer we get to the truth, the more lives we can save. Nothing is "spiritual". Reframe the experience in reality. I promise you can keep all the benefits, just get rid of the needless risk. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (31 children) Nah man, the planet would be really better off without the Abrahamic religions, if you don't think so, you're not paying attention permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 31 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (25 children) So long as your flaws are your problems, you choose to live worse for some reason. But it is not just religion, but any kind of magical thinking. Like when someone refuses psych medicine because they believe they are special, and can overpower the disease with willpower. You put people at risk willingly by making irrational choices, just because they are convenient. Having said that, I have little issue with Cristian atheism, as it's not an actual religion, but an ideology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 25 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (23 children) That is concerning, given that the actual religious folk's religion is based on an anectodal book, that means they can twist it to whatever suits them. Like the prospherity gosspel. It is so easy to influence people. I mean, that's what MAGA is doing, treating their own religion book as "communist propaganda". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (17 children) Stop pretending that the 75% of humans who are ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a death cult and none of them worth defending when they are attacked with blind hate. IT'S NOT PRETENDING AND IT'S NOT BLIND. READ THE GODDAM BIBLE. IT IS A DEATH CULT. FUCK YOU FOR LYING ABOUT THIS. FUCK YOU FOR CHOOSING DEATH AGAIN AND AGAIN. USE YOUR GODDAM BRAIN, YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT. I was abused because you reject reality. A song for you: https://snoopsqueak.com/videos/fys Like i said i have read multiple but you would not consider them bibles because they do not glorify death in any shape or form. Name them. The one i found most influential did not even mention the afterlife. It was just about a cool guy being trying to do what was right. BY LYING TO EVERYONE AND DEMANDING THEY JOIN HIS DEATH CULT. STOP SANEWASHING THIS. I don’t believe in magical thinking Evidently, you do, and as a result you are rejecting reality so you can preserve your deadly stupidity. Whats is selfish about correctly Labeling meditation a form spiritually? Because nothing is "spiritual". It's a bullshit word. Describe your experiences in the context of reality, please. By not doing so, you are normalizing magical thinking. You are enabling my parents and worse, all so you can feel Very Special. You are very special. You don't need the bullshit. Grow the fuck up and take a stand for the truth, your cowardice is KILLING PEOPLE. Is that a bad word now too? It's a deadly mindset. If this hate is directed at every word that has some vague link to historical dogma i have bad news. STOP APPEALING TO POPULARITY. Just because many people have done it for a long time does not make it right. And stop pretending I am the aggressor. I am defending real life against your fake, stupid bullshit. I am not and have never defended a death cults Liar, you've done it all throughout these comments and you're still doing it. no one of the many people i know is in a death cult Liar, every christian you know is. and it certainly is not what the majority christians are about. Liar, it's the definition of christ. Citing a bible that is not the one they read/believe in is not going to change that. The bible describes a death god, encourages everyone to join a death cult, and real people really believe it. What part of this are you not getting? STOP REJECTING EVIDENCE, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (15 children) Insulting me for having a nuance that you fail to understand. Calling me a liar while i have been nothing but honest It's not nuanced, you're defending death cults. You are lying, and I highlighted each lie. Contrary to popular belief, lies do not require intent. If someone else told a lie and you repeat it earnestly, I'm still hearing a lie. It is blind because you refuse to see the difference between a book writen by one philosopher in one time versus one writen by a different philosopher in another time. It's not blind, because I see the text of the bible explicitly commanding abuse. You're pretending it doesn't exist, that it doesn't cause harm, while people are dying as a result of others' belief in it. There is no such thing as a singular bible. We are talking about christianity. The christian bible. There is no such thing as a singular christian identity (which i am not part of) It's in the name. They believe in christ, magical savior human sacrifice whom they must submit to if they want to avoid punishment. You seem to believe that there and that it somehow has the “magic” to turn people evil but i will tell you all the evils are man made and burning books is not going to help you at all. Read the bible and stop putting words in my mouth. I'd be happy if the damn thing had a "fiction" label, but many real human beings are pretending it is true. No i do not know the name of the book i read 22 years ago. Also its not in English. Useless, then. Focus on my points. You dont get to dictate what words mean, and if you try you will only find that everyone will stop listening to you. Neither do you. Think really hard about what "christianity" means, what "christ" is in context. It's a death cult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (13 children) More delusional and hateful then the average religious person. Mr. Spiritual thinks I'm delusional. MAGIC ISN'T REAL, DUMB FUCK. I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them. I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you're a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer. Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them. No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that. The ones who try to find a nicer "interpretation" are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly. You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad” HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does. Christ is the character central to the philosophy. That's the problem. What is "christ"? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to. The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy. That's really fucking stupid. "Christ" is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he's also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies. Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (5 replies) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (3 children) No doubt painting it all with one brush is reductionist, there are good people in all corners of the world. What I would say is, even the genuinely good actors practicing these faiths are all acting as cover for the monsters, whether they want to or not. The most devout people should rather denounce their faith as to not enable the evil that gets perpetrated in their name. Of course that won't happen, but I don't know how else we can reconcile with the idea that these faiths are far, far, far, more destructive than productive, just accounting for the few vile wolves in sheep's clothing that are actively working towards the destruction of this planet despite the rest of us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago I think that may be the catch 22 that leaves us where we are, unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why would someone who already denounces the church and the evils of institutional religion. But happens to have private contemplations of a spiritual nature, Denounce that personal experience also? Because it's more honest, and the closer we get to the truth, the more lives we can save. Nothing is "spiritual". Reframe the experience in reality. I promise you can keep all the benefits, just get rid of the needless risk. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (25 children) So long as your flaws are your problems, you choose to live worse for some reason. But it is not just religion, but any kind of magical thinking. Like when someone refuses psych medicine because they believe they are special, and can overpower the disease with willpower. You put people at risk willingly by making irrational choices, just because they are convenient. Having said that, I have little issue with Cristian atheism, as it's not an actual religion, but an ideology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 25 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (23 children) That is concerning, given that the actual religious folk's religion is based on an anectodal book, that means they can twist it to whatever suits them. Like the prospherity gosspel. It is so easy to influence people. I mean, that's what MAGA is doing, treating their own religion book as "communist propaganda". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (17 children) Stop pretending that the 75% of humans who are ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a death cult and none of them worth defending when they are attacked with blind hate. IT'S NOT PRETENDING AND IT'S NOT BLIND. READ THE GODDAM BIBLE. IT IS A DEATH CULT. FUCK YOU FOR LYING ABOUT THIS. FUCK YOU FOR CHOOSING DEATH AGAIN AND AGAIN. USE YOUR GODDAM BRAIN, YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT. I was abused because you reject reality. A song for you: https://snoopsqueak.com/videos/fys Like i said i have read multiple but you would not consider them bibles because they do not glorify death in any shape or form. Name them. The one i found most influential did not even mention the afterlife. It was just about a cool guy being trying to do what was right. BY LYING TO EVERYONE AND DEMANDING THEY JOIN HIS DEATH CULT. STOP SANEWASHING THIS. I don’t believe in magical thinking Evidently, you do, and as a result you are rejecting reality so you can preserve your deadly stupidity. Whats is selfish about correctly Labeling meditation a form spiritually? Because nothing is "spiritual". It's a bullshit word. Describe your experiences in the context of reality, please. By not doing so, you are normalizing magical thinking. You are enabling my parents and worse, all so you can feel Very Special. You are very special. You don't need the bullshit. Grow the fuck up and take a stand for the truth, your cowardice is KILLING PEOPLE. Is that a bad word now too? It's a deadly mindset. If this hate is directed at every word that has some vague link to historical dogma i have bad news. STOP APPEALING TO POPULARITY. Just because many people have done it for a long time does not make it right. And stop pretending I am the aggressor. I am defending real life against your fake, stupid bullshit. I am not and have never defended a death cults Liar, you've done it all throughout these comments and you're still doing it. no one of the many people i know is in a death cult Liar, every christian you know is. and it certainly is not what the majority christians are about. Liar, it's the definition of christ. Citing a bible that is not the one they read/believe in is not going to change that. The bible describes a death god, encourages everyone to join a death cult, and real people really believe it. What part of this are you not getting? STOP REJECTING EVIDENCE, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (15 children) Insulting me for having a nuance that you fail to understand. Calling me a liar while i have been nothing but honest It's not nuanced, you're defending death cults. You are lying, and I highlighted each lie. Contrary to popular belief, lies do not require intent. If someone else told a lie and you repeat it earnestly, I'm still hearing a lie. It is blind because you refuse to see the difference between a book writen by one philosopher in one time versus one writen by a different philosopher in another time. It's not blind, because I see the text of the bible explicitly commanding abuse. You're pretending it doesn't exist, that it doesn't cause harm, while people are dying as a result of others' belief in it. There is no such thing as a singular bible. We are talking about christianity. The christian bible. There is no such thing as a singular christian identity (which i am not part of) It's in the name. They believe in christ, magical savior human sacrifice whom they must submit to if they want to avoid punishment. You seem to believe that there and that it somehow has the “magic” to turn people evil but i will tell you all the evils are man made and burning books is not going to help you at all. Read the bible and stop putting words in my mouth. I'd be happy if the damn thing had a "fiction" label, but many real human beings are pretending it is true. No i do not know the name of the book i read 22 years ago. Also its not in English. Useless, then. Focus on my points. You dont get to dictate what words mean, and if you try you will only find that everyone will stop listening to you. Neither do you. Think really hard about what "christianity" means, what "christ" is in context. It's a death cult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (13 children) More delusional and hateful then the average religious person. Mr. Spiritual thinks I'm delusional. MAGIC ISN'T REAL, DUMB FUCK. I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them. I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you're a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer. Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them. No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that. The ones who try to find a nicer "interpretation" are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly. You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad” HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does. Christ is the character central to the philosophy. That's the problem. What is "christ"? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to. The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy. That's really fucking stupid. "Christ" is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he's also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies. Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (5 replies) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (3 children) No doubt painting it all with one brush is reductionist, there are good people in all corners of the world. What I would say is, even the genuinely good actors practicing these faiths are all acting as cover for the monsters, whether they want to or not. The most devout people should rather denounce their faith as to not enable the evil that gets perpetrated in their name. Of course that won't happen, but I don't know how else we can reconcile with the idea that these faiths are far, far, far, more destructive than productive, just accounting for the few vile wolves in sheep's clothing that are actively working towards the destruction of this planet despite the rest of us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago I think that may be the catch 22 that leaves us where we are, unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why would someone who already denounces the church and the evils of institutional religion. But happens to have private contemplations of a spiritual nature, Denounce that personal experience also? Because it's more honest, and the closer we get to the truth, the more lives we can save. Nothing is "spiritual". Reframe the experience in reality. I promise you can keep all the benefits, just get rid of the needless risk. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (25 children) So long as your flaws are your problems, you choose to live worse for some reason. But it is not just religion, but any kind of magical thinking. Like when someone refuses psych medicine because they believe they are special, and can overpower the disease with willpower. You put people at risk willingly by making irrational choices, just because they are convenient. Having said that, I have little issue with Cristian atheism, as it's not an actual religion, but an ideology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 25 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (23 children) That is concerning, given that the actual religious folk's religion is based on an anectodal book, that means they can twist it to whatever suits them. Like the prospherity gosspel. It is so easy to influence people. I mean, that's what MAGA is doing, treating their own religion book as "communist propaganda". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (17 children) Stop pretending that the 75% of humans who are ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a death cult and none of them worth defending when they are attacked with blind hate. IT'S NOT PRETENDING AND IT'S NOT BLIND. READ THE GODDAM BIBLE. IT IS A DEATH CULT. FUCK YOU FOR LYING ABOUT THIS. FUCK YOU FOR CHOOSING DEATH AGAIN AND AGAIN. USE YOUR GODDAM BRAIN, YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT. I was abused because you reject reality. A song for you: https://snoopsqueak.com/videos/fys Like i said i have read multiple but you would not consider them bibles because they do not glorify death in any shape or form. Name them. The one i found most influential did not even mention the afterlife. It was just about a cool guy being trying to do what was right. BY LYING TO EVERYONE AND DEMANDING THEY JOIN HIS DEATH CULT. STOP SANEWASHING THIS. I don’t believe in magical thinking Evidently, you do, and as a result you are rejecting reality so you can preserve your deadly stupidity. Whats is selfish about correctly Labeling meditation a form spiritually? Because nothing is "spiritual". It's a bullshit word. Describe your experiences in the context of reality, please. By not doing so, you are normalizing magical thinking. You are enabling my parents and worse, all so you can feel Very Special. You are very special. You don't need the bullshit. Grow the fuck up and take a stand for the truth, your cowardice is KILLING PEOPLE. Is that a bad word now too? It's a deadly mindset. If this hate is directed at every word that has some vague link to historical dogma i have bad news. STOP APPEALING TO POPULARITY. Just because many people have done it for a long time does not make it right. And stop pretending I am the aggressor. I am defending real life against your fake, stupid bullshit. I am not and have never defended a death cults Liar, you've done it all throughout these comments and you're still doing it. no one of the many people i know is in a death cult Liar, every christian you know is. and it certainly is not what the majority christians are about. Liar, it's the definition of christ. Citing a bible that is not the one they read/believe in is not going to change that. The bible describes a death god, encourages everyone to join a death cult, and real people really believe it. What part of this are you not getting? STOP REJECTING EVIDENCE, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (15 children) Insulting me for having a nuance that you fail to understand. Calling me a liar while i have been nothing but honest It's not nuanced, you're defending death cults. You are lying, and I highlighted each lie. Contrary to popular belief, lies do not require intent. If someone else told a lie and you repeat it earnestly, I'm still hearing a lie. It is blind because you refuse to see the difference between a book writen by one philosopher in one time versus one writen by a different philosopher in another time. It's not blind, because I see the text of the bible explicitly commanding abuse. You're pretending it doesn't exist, that it doesn't cause harm, while people are dying as a result of others' belief in it. There is no such thing as a singular bible. We are talking about christianity. The christian bible. There is no such thing as a singular christian identity (which i am not part of) It's in the name. They believe in christ, magical savior human sacrifice whom they must submit to if they want to avoid punishment. You seem to believe that there and that it somehow has the “magic” to turn people evil but i will tell you all the evils are man made and burning books is not going to help you at all. Read the bible and stop putting words in my mouth. I'd be happy if the damn thing had a "fiction" label, but many real human beings are pretending it is true. No i do not know the name of the book i read 22 years ago. Also its not in English. Useless, then. Focus on my points. You dont get to dictate what words mean, and if you try you will only find that everyone will stop listening to you. Neither do you. Think really hard about what "christianity" means, what "christ" is in context. It's a death cult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (13 children) More delusional and hateful then the average religious person. Mr. Spiritual thinks I'm delusional. MAGIC ISN'T REAL, DUMB FUCK. I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them. I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you're a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer. Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them. No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that. The ones who try to find a nicer "interpretation" are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly. You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad” HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does. Christ is the character central to the philosophy. That's the problem. What is "christ"? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to. The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy. That's really fucking stupid. "Christ" is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he's also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies. Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. 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[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (23 children) That is concerning, given that the actual religious folk's religion is based on an anectodal book, that means they can twist it to whatever suits them. Like the prospherity gosspel. It is so easy to influence people. I mean, that's what MAGA is doing, treating their own religion book as "communist propaganda". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (17 children) Stop pretending that the 75% of humans who are ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a death cult and none of them worth defending when they are attacked with blind hate. IT'S NOT PRETENDING AND IT'S NOT BLIND. READ THE GODDAM BIBLE. IT IS A DEATH CULT. FUCK YOU FOR LYING ABOUT THIS. FUCK YOU FOR CHOOSING DEATH AGAIN AND AGAIN. USE YOUR GODDAM BRAIN, YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT. I was abused because you reject reality. A song for you: https://snoopsqueak.com/videos/fys Like i said i have read multiple but you would not consider them bibles because they do not glorify death in any shape or form. Name them. The one i found most influential did not even mention the afterlife. It was just about a cool guy being trying to do what was right. BY LYING TO EVERYONE AND DEMANDING THEY JOIN HIS DEATH CULT. STOP SANEWASHING THIS. I don’t believe in magical thinking Evidently, you do, and as a result you are rejecting reality so you can preserve your deadly stupidity. Whats is selfish about correctly Labeling meditation a form spiritually? Because nothing is "spiritual". It's a bullshit word. Describe your experiences in the context of reality, please. By not doing so, you are normalizing magical thinking. You are enabling my parents and worse, all so you can feel Very Special. You are very special. You don't need the bullshit. Grow the fuck up and take a stand for the truth, your cowardice is KILLING PEOPLE. Is that a bad word now too? It's a deadly mindset. If this hate is directed at every word that has some vague link to historical dogma i have bad news. STOP APPEALING TO POPULARITY. Just because many people have done it for a long time does not make it right. And stop pretending I am the aggressor. I am defending real life against your fake, stupid bullshit. I am not and have never defended a death cults Liar, you've done it all throughout these comments and you're still doing it. no one of the many people i know is in a death cult Liar, every christian you know is. and it certainly is not what the majority christians are about. Liar, it's the definition of christ. Citing a bible that is not the one they read/believe in is not going to change that. The bible describes a death god, encourages everyone to join a death cult, and real people really believe it. What part of this are you not getting? STOP REJECTING EVIDENCE, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (15 children) Insulting me for having a nuance that you fail to understand. Calling me a liar while i have been nothing but honest It's not nuanced, you're defending death cults. You are lying, and I highlighted each lie. Contrary to popular belief, lies do not require intent. If someone else told a lie and you repeat it earnestly, I'm still hearing a lie. It is blind because you refuse to see the difference between a book writen by one philosopher in one time versus one writen by a different philosopher in another time. It's not blind, because I see the text of the bible explicitly commanding abuse. You're pretending it doesn't exist, that it doesn't cause harm, while people are dying as a result of others' belief in it. There is no such thing as a singular bible. We are talking about christianity. The christian bible. There is no such thing as a singular christian identity (which i am not part of) It's in the name. They believe in christ, magical savior human sacrifice whom they must submit to if they want to avoid punishment. You seem to believe that there and that it somehow has the “magic” to turn people evil but i will tell you all the evils are man made and burning books is not going to help you at all. Read the bible and stop putting words in my mouth. I'd be happy if the damn thing had a "fiction" label, but many real human beings are pretending it is true. No i do not know the name of the book i read 22 years ago. Also its not in English. Useless, then. Focus on my points. You dont get to dictate what words mean, and if you try you will only find that everyone will stop listening to you. Neither do you. Think really hard about what "christianity" means, what "christ" is in context. It's a death cult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (13 children) More delusional and hateful then the average religious person. Mr. Spiritual thinks I'm delusional. MAGIC ISN'T REAL, DUMB FUCK. I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them. I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you're a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer. Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them. No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that. The ones who try to find a nicer "interpretation" are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly. You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad” HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does. Christ is the character central to the philosophy. That's the problem. What is "christ"? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to. The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy. That's really fucking stupid. "Christ" is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he's also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies. Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. 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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (23 children) That is concerning, given that the actual religious folk's religion is based on an anectodal book, that means they can twist it to whatever suits them. Like the prospherity gosspel. It is so easy to influence people. I mean, that's what MAGA is doing, treating their own religion book as "communist propaganda". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (17 children) Stop pretending that the 75% of humans who are ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a death cult and none of them worth defending when they are attacked with blind hate. IT'S NOT PRETENDING AND IT'S NOT BLIND. READ THE GODDAM BIBLE. IT IS A DEATH CULT. FUCK YOU FOR LYING ABOUT THIS. FUCK YOU FOR CHOOSING DEATH AGAIN AND AGAIN. USE YOUR GODDAM BRAIN, YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT. I was abused because you reject reality. A song for you: https://snoopsqueak.com/videos/fys Like i said i have read multiple but you would not consider them bibles because they do not glorify death in any shape or form. Name them. The one i found most influential did not even mention the afterlife. It was just about a cool guy being trying to do what was right. BY LYING TO EVERYONE AND DEMANDING THEY JOIN HIS DEATH CULT. STOP SANEWASHING THIS. I don’t believe in magical thinking Evidently, you do, and as a result you are rejecting reality so you can preserve your deadly stupidity. Whats is selfish about correctly Labeling meditation a form spiritually? Because nothing is "spiritual". It's a bullshit word. Describe your experiences in the context of reality, please. By not doing so, you are normalizing magical thinking. You are enabling my parents and worse, all so you can feel Very Special. You are very special. You don't need the bullshit. Grow the fuck up and take a stand for the truth, your cowardice is KILLING PEOPLE. Is that a bad word now too? It's a deadly mindset. If this hate is directed at every word that has some vague link to historical dogma i have bad news. STOP APPEALING TO POPULARITY. Just because many people have done it for a long time does not make it right. And stop pretending I am the aggressor. I am defending real life against your fake, stupid bullshit. I am not and have never defended a death cults Liar, you've done it all throughout these comments and you're still doing it. no one of the many people i know is in a death cult Liar, every christian you know is. and it certainly is not what the majority christians are about. Liar, it's the definition of christ. Citing a bible that is not the one they read/believe in is not going to change that. The bible describes a death god, encourages everyone to join a death cult, and real people really believe it. What part of this are you not getting? STOP REJECTING EVIDENCE, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (15 children) Insulting me for having a nuance that you fail to understand. Calling me a liar while i have been nothing but honest It's not nuanced, you're defending death cults. You are lying, and I highlighted each lie. Contrary to popular belief, lies do not require intent. If someone else told a lie and you repeat it earnestly, I'm still hearing a lie. It is blind because you refuse to see the difference between a book writen by one philosopher in one time versus one writen by a different philosopher in another time. It's not blind, because I see the text of the bible explicitly commanding abuse. You're pretending it doesn't exist, that it doesn't cause harm, while people are dying as a result of others' belief in it. There is no such thing as a singular bible. We are talking about christianity. The christian bible. There is no such thing as a singular christian identity (which i am not part of) It's in the name. They believe in christ, magical savior human sacrifice whom they must submit to if they want to avoid punishment. You seem to believe that there and that it somehow has the “magic” to turn people evil but i will tell you all the evils are man made and burning books is not going to help you at all. Read the bible and stop putting words in my mouth. I'd be happy if the damn thing had a "fiction" label, but many real human beings are pretending it is true. No i do not know the name of the book i read 22 years ago. Also its not in English. Useless, then. Focus on my points. You dont get to dictate what words mean, and if you try you will only find that everyone will stop listening to you. Neither do you. Think really hard about what "christianity" means, what "christ" is in context. It's a death cult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (13 children) More delusional and hateful then the average religious person. Mr. Spiritual thinks I'm delusional. MAGIC ISN'T REAL, DUMB FUCK. I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them. I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you're a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer. Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them. No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that. The ones who try to find a nicer "interpretation" are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly. You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad” HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does. Christ is the character central to the philosophy. That's the problem. What is "christ"? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to. The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy. That's really fucking stupid. "Christ" is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he's also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies. Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. 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[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (17 children) Stop pretending that the 75% of humans who are ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a death cult and none of them worth defending when they are attacked with blind hate. IT'S NOT PRETENDING AND IT'S NOT BLIND. READ THE GODDAM BIBLE. IT IS A DEATH CULT. FUCK YOU FOR LYING ABOUT THIS. FUCK YOU FOR CHOOSING DEATH AGAIN AND AGAIN. USE YOUR GODDAM BRAIN, YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT. I was abused because you reject reality. A song for you: https://snoopsqueak.com/videos/fys Like i said i have read multiple but you would not consider them bibles because they do not glorify death in any shape or form. Name them. The one i found most influential did not even mention the afterlife. It was just about a cool guy being trying to do what was right. BY LYING TO EVERYONE AND DEMANDING THEY JOIN HIS DEATH CULT. STOP SANEWASHING THIS. I don’t believe in magical thinking Evidently, you do, and as a result you are rejecting reality so you can preserve your deadly stupidity. Whats is selfish about correctly Labeling meditation a form spiritually? Because nothing is "spiritual". It's a bullshit word. Describe your experiences in the context of reality, please. By not doing so, you are normalizing magical thinking. You are enabling my parents and worse, all so you can feel Very Special. You are very special. You don't need the bullshit. Grow the fuck up and take a stand for the truth, your cowardice is KILLING PEOPLE. Is that a bad word now too? It's a deadly mindset. If this hate is directed at every word that has some vague link to historical dogma i have bad news. STOP APPEALING TO POPULARITY. Just because many people have done it for a long time does not make it right. And stop pretending I am the aggressor. I am defending real life against your fake, stupid bullshit. I am not and have never defended a death cults Liar, you've done it all throughout these comments and you're still doing it. no one of the many people i know is in a death cult Liar, every christian you know is. and it certainly is not what the majority christians are about. Liar, it's the definition of christ. Citing a bible that is not the one they read/believe in is not going to change that. The bible describes a death god, encourages everyone to join a death cult, and real people really believe it. What part of this are you not getting? STOP REJECTING EVIDENCE, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (15 children) Insulting me for having a nuance that you fail to understand. Calling me a liar while i have been nothing but honest It's not nuanced, you're defending death cults. You are lying, and I highlighted each lie. Contrary to popular belief, lies do not require intent. If someone else told a lie and you repeat it earnestly, I'm still hearing a lie. It is blind because you refuse to see the difference between a book writen by one philosopher in one time versus one writen by a different philosopher in another time. It's not blind, because I see the text of the bible explicitly commanding abuse. You're pretending it doesn't exist, that it doesn't cause harm, while people are dying as a result of others' belief in it. There is no such thing as a singular bible. We are talking about christianity. The christian bible. There is no such thing as a singular christian identity (which i am not part of) It's in the name. They believe in christ, magical savior human sacrifice whom they must submit to if they want to avoid punishment. You seem to believe that there and that it somehow has the “magic” to turn people evil but i will tell you all the evils are man made and burning books is not going to help you at all. Read the bible and stop putting words in my mouth. I'd be happy if the damn thing had a "fiction" label, but many real human beings are pretending it is true. No i do not know the name of the book i read 22 years ago. Also its not in English. Useless, then. Focus on my points. You dont get to dictate what words mean, and if you try you will only find that everyone will stop listening to you. Neither do you. Think really hard about what "christianity" means, what "christ" is in context. It's a death cult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (13 children) More delusional and hateful then the average religious person. Mr. Spiritual thinks I'm delusional. MAGIC ISN'T REAL, DUMB FUCK. I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them. I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you're a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer. Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them. No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that. The ones who try to find a nicer "interpretation" are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly. You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad” HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does. Christ is the character central to the philosophy. That's the problem. What is "christ"? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to. The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy. That's really fucking stupid. "Christ" is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he's also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies. Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. 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[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (17 children) Stop pretending that the 75% of humans who are ascribe to some form of religion are all part of a death cult and none of them worth defending when they are attacked with blind hate. IT'S NOT PRETENDING AND IT'S NOT BLIND. READ THE GODDAM BIBLE. IT IS A DEATH CULT. FUCK YOU FOR LYING ABOUT THIS. FUCK YOU FOR CHOOSING DEATH AGAIN AND AGAIN. USE YOUR GODDAM BRAIN, YOU SELFISH PIECE OF SHIT. I was abused because you reject reality. A song for you: https://snoopsqueak.com/videos/fys Like i said i have read multiple but you would not consider them bibles because they do not glorify death in any shape or form. Name them. The one i found most influential did not even mention the afterlife. It was just about a cool guy being trying to do what was right. BY LYING TO EVERYONE AND DEMANDING THEY JOIN HIS DEATH CULT. STOP SANEWASHING THIS. I don’t believe in magical thinking Evidently, you do, and as a result you are rejecting reality so you can preserve your deadly stupidity. Whats is selfish about correctly Labeling meditation a form spiritually? Because nothing is "spiritual". It's a bullshit word. Describe your experiences in the context of reality, please. By not doing so, you are normalizing magical thinking. You are enabling my parents and worse, all so you can feel Very Special. You are very special. You don't need the bullshit. Grow the fuck up and take a stand for the truth, your cowardice is KILLING PEOPLE. Is that a bad word now too? It's a deadly mindset. If this hate is directed at every word that has some vague link to historical dogma i have bad news. STOP APPEALING TO POPULARITY. Just because many people have done it for a long time does not make it right. And stop pretending I am the aggressor. I am defending real life against your fake, stupid bullshit. I am not and have never defended a death cults Liar, you've done it all throughout these comments and you're still doing it. no one of the many people i know is in a death cult Liar, every christian you know is. and it certainly is not what the majority christians are about. Liar, it's the definition of christ. Citing a bible that is not the one they read/believe in is not going to change that. The bible describes a death god, encourages everyone to join a death cult, and real people really believe it. What part of this are you not getting? STOP REJECTING EVIDENCE, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (15 children) Insulting me for having a nuance that you fail to understand. Calling me a liar while i have been nothing but honest It's not nuanced, you're defending death cults. You are lying, and I highlighted each lie. Contrary to popular belief, lies do not require intent. If someone else told a lie and you repeat it earnestly, I'm still hearing a lie. It is blind because you refuse to see the difference between a book writen by one philosopher in one time versus one writen by a different philosopher in another time. It's not blind, because I see the text of the bible explicitly commanding abuse. You're pretending it doesn't exist, that it doesn't cause harm, while people are dying as a result of others' belief in it. There is no such thing as a singular bible. We are talking about christianity. The christian bible. There is no such thing as a singular christian identity (which i am not part of) It's in the name. They believe in christ, magical savior human sacrifice whom they must submit to if they want to avoid punishment. You seem to believe that there and that it somehow has the “magic” to turn people evil but i will tell you all the evils are man made and burning books is not going to help you at all. Read the bible and stop putting words in my mouth. I'd be happy if the damn thing had a "fiction" label, but many real human beings are pretending it is true. No i do not know the name of the book i read 22 years ago. Also its not in English. Useless, then. Focus on my points. You dont get to dictate what words mean, and if you try you will only find that everyone will stop listening to you. Neither do you. Think really hard about what "christianity" means, what "christ" is in context. It's a death cult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (13 children) More delusional and hateful then the average religious person. Mr. Spiritual thinks I'm delusional. MAGIC ISN'T REAL, DUMB FUCK. I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them. I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you're a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer. Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them. No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that. The ones who try to find a nicer "interpretation" are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly. You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad” HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does. Christ is the character central to the philosophy. That's the problem. What is "christ"? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to. The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy. That's really fucking stupid. "Christ" is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he's also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies. Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. 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[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (15 children) Insulting me for having a nuance that you fail to understand. Calling me a liar while i have been nothing but honest It's not nuanced, you're defending death cults. You are lying, and I highlighted each lie. Contrary to popular belief, lies do not require intent. If someone else told a lie and you repeat it earnestly, I'm still hearing a lie. It is blind because you refuse to see the difference between a book writen by one philosopher in one time versus one writen by a different philosopher in another time. It's not blind, because I see the text of the bible explicitly commanding abuse. You're pretending it doesn't exist, that it doesn't cause harm, while people are dying as a result of others' belief in it. There is no such thing as a singular bible. We are talking about christianity. The christian bible. There is no such thing as a singular christian identity (which i am not part of) It's in the name. They believe in christ, magical savior human sacrifice whom they must submit to if they want to avoid punishment. You seem to believe that there and that it somehow has the “magic” to turn people evil but i will tell you all the evils are man made and burning books is not going to help you at all. Read the bible and stop putting words in my mouth. I'd be happy if the damn thing had a "fiction" label, but many real human beings are pretending it is true. No i do not know the name of the book i read 22 years ago. Also its not in English. Useless, then. Focus on my points. You dont get to dictate what words mean, and if you try you will only find that everyone will stop listening to you. Neither do you. Think really hard about what "christianity" means, what "christ" is in context. It's a death cult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (13 children) More delusional and hateful then the average religious person. Mr. Spiritual thinks I'm delusional. MAGIC ISN'T REAL, DUMB FUCK. I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them. I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you're a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer. Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them. No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that. The ones who try to find a nicer "interpretation" are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly. You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad” HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does. Christ is the character central to the philosophy. That's the problem. What is "christ"? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to. The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy. That's really fucking stupid. "Christ" is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he's also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies. Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. 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[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (15 children) Insulting me for having a nuance that you fail to understand. Calling me a liar while i have been nothing but honest It's not nuanced, you're defending death cults. You are lying, and I highlighted each lie. Contrary to popular belief, lies do not require intent. If someone else told a lie and you repeat it earnestly, I'm still hearing a lie. It is blind because you refuse to see the difference between a book writen by one philosopher in one time versus one writen by a different philosopher in another time. It's not blind, because I see the text of the bible explicitly commanding abuse. You're pretending it doesn't exist, that it doesn't cause harm, while people are dying as a result of others' belief in it. There is no such thing as a singular bible. We are talking about christianity. The christian bible. There is no such thing as a singular christian identity (which i am not part of) It's in the name. They believe in christ, magical savior human sacrifice whom they must submit to if they want to avoid punishment. You seem to believe that there and that it somehow has the “magic” to turn people evil but i will tell you all the evils are man made and burning books is not going to help you at all. Read the bible and stop putting words in my mouth. I'd be happy if the damn thing had a "fiction" label, but many real human beings are pretending it is true. No i do not know the name of the book i read 22 years ago. Also its not in English. Useless, then. Focus on my points. You dont get to dictate what words mean, and if you try you will only find that everyone will stop listening to you. Neither do you. Think really hard about what "christianity" means, what "christ" is in context. It's a death cult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (13 children) More delusional and hateful then the average religious person. Mr. Spiritual thinks I'm delusional. MAGIC ISN'T REAL, DUMB FUCK. I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them. I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you're a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer. Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them. No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that. The ones who try to find a nicer "interpretation" are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly. You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad” HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does. Christ is the character central to the philosophy. That's the problem. What is "christ"? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to. The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy. That's really fucking stupid. "Christ" is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he's also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies. Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. 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[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (13 children) More delusional and hateful then the average religious person. Mr. Spiritual thinks I'm delusional. MAGIC ISN'T REAL, DUMB FUCK. I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them. I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you're a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer. Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them. No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that. The ones who try to find a nicer "interpretation" are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly. You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad” HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does. Christ is the character central to the philosophy. That's the problem. What is "christ"? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to. The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy. That's really fucking stupid. "Christ" is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he's also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies. Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (13 children) More delusional and hateful then the average religious person. Mr. Spiritual thinks I'm delusional. MAGIC ISN'T REAL, DUMB FUCK. I hate abusers, as everyone should. Stop defending them. I am not delusional. There is evidence for my claims, but you keep rejecting it because you're a lazy, selfish coward. Think harder. Look closer. Your point is that some interpretations of the bible which is not at all the interpretation of modern christians somehow speaks for them. No, my point is that every version of the bible explicitly instructs abuse, and many adults believe that. The ones who try to find a nicer "interpretation" are still directly enabling the others. Magical thinking is deadly. You want me to adress your point but you habe yet to provide a single coherent point except “old book = bad” HAVE YOU READ IT? Do you think slave rape is good? God does, therefore christ does. Christ is the character central to the philosophy. That's the problem. What is "christ"? According to the bible you keep ignoring, the one most people believe, christ is the human incarnation of an abusive god that we should all submit to. The gnostics are against god but christ is still their main guy. That's really fucking stupid. "Christ" is rooted in god. We can talk about Jesus instead, but he's also a piece of shit because he told deadly lies. Please use your brain and stop outsourcing your thinking. Examine the foundations more closely, look beneath the labels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (11 children) Who are you arguing against? You, slimy dipshit. Are these believes of magic in the room with us right now? You, "spiritual" dumbass. spiritualily is not religion nor is it magic, its simply a human experience. It's the misrepresentation of human experience. Spirits aren't real. Meditation is an example. Meditation is a thought exercise. It's a mental activity, not a magical one. Stop acting like an abuser so i can stop feeling that you need someone to defend you. Stop defending death cults, dumb shit. You'll get more like me. Think harder about what? Some dogmatic scripture you call the bible? YES. THE ONE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED ON. Lets see i think god is absolute evil just from jacobs story alone. Then you understand why christ is an abusive concept. I also think authority or one human holding power over another is evil. Then stop defending fascism. Do you think i think slave rape is good? Yes, since you think christianity is acceptable amd christianity begins with slave rape. Do you know why they're called abrahamic faiths? Because abraham was one of god's first chosen people. Do you know how Abraham conceived his child, a line that supposedly led to Jesus? It was slave rape, explicitly condoned by god. Good to know you take specific offence to christ over Jesus. I already mentioned I suspected we where arguing sementics. I’ll say Jesus instead which is what i would usualy name the character. I only used Christ because you used it and i try to use the same terms to avoid confusion. Right, that's why CHRISTIANITY is a death cult. For fuck's sake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (9 children) Spirituality isn’t magic your just arguing sementics of terminology you arent mature/sober enough to understand Spirits don't exist. Did you know that having an alcohol dependency does not mean I'm drunk all the time? You: "I want to be your friend." Me: "Here is what I am going through and why." You: "I'm going to immediately use that against you instead of engaging with your points." You should shut the fuck up. It has nothing to do with spirits in a modern psychological context THEN USE A BETTER WORD. Define "spirituality." Depending on which cult thats somewhere between 27 and 80 completely different books. Your argument is a cherry picked needle in a haystack but go on smart ass i have detached myself from feeling sympathy and am curiouss. No, shitbag, I did not cherry pick the most popular christian bible in the world, the best-selling book of all time. You are exercising willful ignorance by pretending it does not have significant influence. Explain to me, what the concept of “christ” is. I have. "Christ Jesus" means "the messiah Jesus". In abrahamic religions, from judaism to christianity to islam, a messiah is a savior, heavenly sovereign, king of prophets. In judaism, upon which christianity is founded, the messiah is specifically a descendant of king David who will one day unite the tribes of Israel. Christianity asserts that christ is the son of god and god the son, the same god from Genesis onward. The new testament claims that god sent himself in the form of his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice to atone for the world's sins, because god has demanded blood sacrifices since the old testament. That's the system he chose, for some reason. 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. The famous John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Luke 9, "die for me": For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. Matthew 3 affirms Jesus's special connection with yahweh: And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Mark 1 emphasizes that Jesus is the messiah: The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet And it echoes Matthew 3: And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” And it describes Jesus preaching the good news of yahweh the abuser: Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” What more would you like? Verses about his sacrifice, about sin? After you are done think about who told you that/gave you the book that explained it and thinking about wether they where a good person/teacher. That's my point. They were death cultists, and you are directly enabling them by defending christianity. The bible is hate speech. Do not pretend otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (7 children) There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right. Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary. STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE. Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that. I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat. Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims. Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize. Or would the irony get lost on you? I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it. Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying. So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope. Have. You. Read. The. Text? Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either) Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit. Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes? That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally. Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass. The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others. I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence. Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better. Stop allowing them to have a hold over you. STOP DEFENDING THEM. Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more. Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority. Why are you pretending these connections don't exist? I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait. You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church. I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ. It's a bigger problem than you realize. Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot. No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off. And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (5 children) Your father is moron. Correct. What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design. Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality. What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing. I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it. i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people. It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise. Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition. What a stupid thing to say. Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings" If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. No, you're the one making it personal. I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them. Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims. I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good. Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you. You started it. Quit defending death cults. Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS. I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade. It's everywhere. In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021. This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time. https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022 https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/ Zealots also claim there helping people. Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (3 children) You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t. You do, by your own admission. How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself. Tell us more about your spirituality. I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic. But it is belief in magic. And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. Because it's the same baseless magical thinking. What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists? No, you're the one making it personal. No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it. I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending. it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend. If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me. The irony is lost on you. Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work. Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not. Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find. No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered. You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here. In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers. It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera. Links if you are interested: https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Spiritual = \ = magic. Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality. If i believed in magic i would say so. Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents. See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men. In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (3 children) No doubt painting it all with one brush is reductionist, there are good people in all corners of the world. What I would say is, even the genuinely good actors practicing these faiths are all acting as cover for the monsters, whether they want to or not. The most devout people should rather denounce their faith as to not enable the evil that gets perpetrated in their name. Of course that won't happen, but I don't know how else we can reconcile with the idea that these faiths are far, far, far, more destructive than productive, just accounting for the few vile wolves in sheep's clothing that are actively working towards the destruction of this planet despite the rest of us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago I think that may be the catch 22 that leaves us where we are, unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why would someone who already denounces the church and the evils of institutional religion. But happens to have private contemplations of a spiritual nature, Denounce that personal experience also? Because it's more honest, and the closer we get to the truth, the more lives we can save. Nothing is "spiritual". Reframe the experience in reality. I promise you can keep all the benefits, just get rid of the needless risk. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago I think that may be the catch 22 that leaves us where we are, unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why would someone who already denounces the church and the evils of institutional religion. But happens to have private contemplations of a spiritual nature, Denounce that personal experience also? Because it's more honest, and the closer we get to the truth, the more lives we can save. Nothing is "spiritual". Reframe the experience in reality. I promise you can keep all the benefits, just get rid of the needless risk. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago I think that may be the catch 22 that leaves us where we are, unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Why would someone who already denounces the church and the evils of institutional religion. But happens to have private contemplations of a spiritual nature, Denounce that personal experience also? Because it's more honest, and the closer we get to the truth, the more lives we can save. Nothing is "spiritual". Reframe the experience in reality. I promise you can keep all the benefits, just get rid of the needless risk. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (16 children) I don’t know. She really never talks about it. Maybe you should ask. She might be crazier than you think. I don’t think she believes the angels influence the earth. Everything that exists influences everything else. If she believes angels exist, what is their purpose? preying to them does indicate an expectation they can guide one personaly, so I would call that influence again. Magical thinking. she is the only Christian i know to actually believe in something that literally magical Wrong. Every christian who believes in christ (which is all of them, it's in the fucking name) believes in magic. we both know is a bunch of nonsense so i am not surprise the logic makes no sense. How do you not see the danger in encouraging grown-ass adults to reject logic? Incredibly sweet and open minded woman though On the surface. i don’t think she is even capable of hate. You might say the same if you met my abusive mother because SHE believes she is a good person, because she believes a magic man in the sky loves her for abusing her kids. Connect the fucking dots and stop defending death cults, you miserable coward, children are dying for your bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (14 children) You are setting yourself up to become an abuser. Fuck you for victim blaming. There's a reason I chose not to have kids. I did not choose to be abused. Reminder: I was VIOLENTLY BRAINWASHED against my will. What kind of person do you think that produces? I can be kind, but you have consistently rejected reality to defend the exact same ideas that ruined my life. Stop being selfish and start listening to reason, for fuck's sake. How much long can you carry this hate before you attack someone for the crime of wearing a cross shaped heirloom. My "hate" is a response to their hate. Stop falling for DARVO, they are killing us. Hate begans hate. You mean "begets". Christians hate and call it love. I was abused because fuckshits like you refuse to look beneath the surface. And hate is not something you can keep under control. It will explode unless you actually try and find peace. I am trying to find peace. You won't let me. You're saying we should all sit back and let ourselves be slaughtered. Fuck that. I am not your enemy. You are, evidently. You've consistently chosen death instead of life. I am undergoing your toxicity to try and be your friend. And I've been lied to before. Saying things doesn't make them true. Liars aren't my friends. I dont care what people claim that they are good. But that's exactly what you're doing. I look at their actions. Look at your own actions, in context. You know I was abused because people believe the bible, yet you're telling me I'm wrong for criticizing the death cult that hurt me and is hurting us all right now. It's why I call you stupid. You are not applying reason. Do they judge others, do they show compassion to strangers.. Compassion is my default, but you lost that when you defended abusers. I'm still waiting for you to stop doing that, yet you continue choosing death for all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (12 children) All I've been asking this whole time is: Please stop defending my abusers. More children are being violently brainwashed every day, and you are defending their abusers, too. I wouldn't do this if it was just about me. Please think. I have some videos on my YouTube channel where I read some bible chapters. Maybe you should take a look. It's worse than you think. I plan on making more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (10 children) I know how bad some bibles are, you don’t need to tell me yaweh is the evident bad guy. But I do need to tell you that christ was yahweh, and that christians believe Jesus was christ. This is why it is bad from the ground up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (8 children) And i need to tell you that one of the 4 gospels that are included in the latest testament specifically says Jesus was the biological son of Joseph and Maria. Point being? The lineage of Jesus is described twice, once in Mark and once in Luke. They contradict each other; one claims Joseph is the son of Jacob, one claims Joseph is the son of Heli. Yet both lead back up to Abraham. Jesus was human and thus god is humans getting to choose their own destiny and studying morality. That's not what Jesus said in the gospels. He very explicitly commanded submission, obedience, I am the only way, etc. The romans added the old crap back in but the new philosophy remained. The bible remains a book of deadly bullshit that many people believe. The gnostic literature very specifically denounced jaweh as the monster and jesus as the a human of knowledge. Which gnostic literature? All of it? It's a very broad category of beliefs, yet still insists on magical thinking in seemingly every incarnation. Jesus himself claimed yahweh was the father to whom we must all submit. Even if one does not believe Jesus was christ, Jesus did. He was a delusional narcissist, a cult leader who got himself and others killed. The abrahamic faiths are death cults. Christianity is explicit about it. It's baked into the concept of "christ". Magical thinking is deadly. Superstition is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting. You're the one deflecting. I criticized christianity for being a death cult. You brought up gnosticism as if it's somehow better or somehow erases christianity. Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature. Why can't we focus on reality instead of scripture? There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean? Then write about that instead of magic, and leave christ out of it completely. But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that. Because the many branches of christianity are all based on the same shitty story about an abuser god sending his son to die to save us from his own punishments. IT IS A DEATH CULT. And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy If it's christian, it's a death cult. If it respects the teachings of Jesus, it's a death cult, because Jesus taught that he is the son of god, that he is christ. Why are you ignoring what Jesus died for? Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god. The Nicene creed explicitly states Jesus is the son of god. What do you reckon the pope meant when he said "Jesus reveals the Father to us by involving us in his own relationship with Him"? Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations) Someone should've told Jesus. Lying is not moral, please stop sanewashing his claims. Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin? The one most christians believe, yes. But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil. The one time? LOL. God was commanding sacrifices since Genesis, including human ones: He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” Is this a figurative animal sacrifice? God loves the smell: Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth Why did he make us evil in the first place? That's what we need "salvation" from, the "sinful nature" he created us with. Leviticus 17: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Numbers 29: It is a day for you to blow the trumpets, and you shall offer a burnt offering, for a pleasing aroma to the Lord: one bull from the herd, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish; also their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for the bull, two tenths for the ram, and one tenth for each of the seven lambs; with one male goat for a sin offering, to make atonement for you Now let's get to Jesus. Hebrews 9: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. John 1: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! As previously mentioned, 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world Romans 5: More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Ephesians 1: In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace Colossians 1: For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Revelation 1: And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal Please stop pretending they don't exist. I'm not saying they're sensible. I'm saying there are more death cultists than you realize, and you enable them by pretending their book of bullshit isn't a huge problem. Can you acknowledge each of these points? A: yahweh is a death god B: the bible describes yahweh as loving C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time D: most christians think reading the bible is important E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs F: our beliefs drive our actions If you can follow that line of logic, you can understand why my parents are getting away with child abuse. There are entire communities that revere the bible, and I had no means of escape. This same abuse and worse is still happening to others because people like you refuse to hold them accountable. You think the poison is not a problem as long as no one drinks it, but the poison itself contains instructions that say "drink me and shove me down everyone else's throats, too." Repeat after me: christianity is a death cult. Magical thinking is killing us. If you have questions, ask. I can help you understand if you stop denying reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (16 children) I don’t know. She really never talks about it. Maybe you should ask. She might be crazier than you think. I don’t think she believes the angels influence the earth. Everything that exists influences everything else. If she believes angels exist, what is their purpose? preying to them does indicate an expectation they can guide one personaly, so I would call that influence again. Magical thinking. she is the only Christian i know to actually believe in something that literally magical Wrong. Every christian who believes in christ (which is all of them, it's in the fucking name) believes in magic. we both know is a bunch of nonsense so i am not surprise the logic makes no sense. How do you not see the danger in encouraging grown-ass adults to reject logic? Incredibly sweet and open minded woman though On the surface. i don’t think she is even capable of hate. You might say the same if you met my abusive mother because SHE believes she is a good person, because she believes a magic man in the sky loves her for abusing her kids. Connect the fucking dots and stop defending death cults, you miserable coward, children are dying for your bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (14 children) You are setting yourself up to become an abuser. Fuck you for victim blaming. There's a reason I chose not to have kids. I did not choose to be abused. Reminder: I was VIOLENTLY BRAINWASHED against my will. What kind of person do you think that produces? I can be kind, but you have consistently rejected reality to defend the exact same ideas that ruined my life. Stop being selfish and start listening to reason, for fuck's sake. How much long can you carry this hate before you attack someone for the crime of wearing a cross shaped heirloom. My "hate" is a response to their hate. Stop falling for DARVO, they are killing us. Hate begans hate. You mean "begets". Christians hate and call it love. I was abused because fuckshits like you refuse to look beneath the surface. And hate is not something you can keep under control. It will explode unless you actually try and find peace. I am trying to find peace. You won't let me. You're saying we should all sit back and let ourselves be slaughtered. Fuck that. I am not your enemy. You are, evidently. You've consistently chosen death instead of life. I am undergoing your toxicity to try and be your friend. And I've been lied to before. Saying things doesn't make them true. Liars aren't my friends. I dont care what people claim that they are good. But that's exactly what you're doing. I look at their actions. Look at your own actions, in context. You know I was abused because people believe the bible, yet you're telling me I'm wrong for criticizing the death cult that hurt me and is hurting us all right now. It's why I call you stupid. You are not applying reason. Do they judge others, do they show compassion to strangers.. Compassion is my default, but you lost that when you defended abusers. I'm still waiting for you to stop doing that, yet you continue choosing death for all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (12 children) All I've been asking this whole time is: Please stop defending my abusers. More children are being violently brainwashed every day, and you are defending their abusers, too. I wouldn't do this if it was just about me. Please think. I have some videos on my YouTube channel where I read some bible chapters. Maybe you should take a look. It's worse than you think. I plan on making more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (10 children) I know how bad some bibles are, you don’t need to tell me yaweh is the evident bad guy. But I do need to tell you that christ was yahweh, and that christians believe Jesus was christ. This is why it is bad from the ground up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (8 children) And i need to tell you that one of the 4 gospels that are included in the latest testament specifically says Jesus was the biological son of Joseph and Maria. Point being? The lineage of Jesus is described twice, once in Mark and once in Luke. They contradict each other; one claims Joseph is the son of Jacob, one claims Joseph is the son of Heli. Yet both lead back up to Abraham. Jesus was human and thus god is humans getting to choose their own destiny and studying morality. That's not what Jesus said in the gospels. He very explicitly commanded submission, obedience, I am the only way, etc. The romans added the old crap back in but the new philosophy remained. The bible remains a book of deadly bullshit that many people believe. The gnostic literature very specifically denounced jaweh as the monster and jesus as the a human of knowledge. Which gnostic literature? All of it? It's a very broad category of beliefs, yet still insists on magical thinking in seemingly every incarnation. Jesus himself claimed yahweh was the father to whom we must all submit. Even if one does not believe Jesus was christ, Jesus did. He was a delusional narcissist, a cult leader who got himself and others killed. The abrahamic faiths are death cults. Christianity is explicit about it. It's baked into the concept of "christ". Magical thinking is deadly. Superstition is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting. You're the one deflecting. I criticized christianity for being a death cult. You brought up gnosticism as if it's somehow better or somehow erases christianity. Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature. Why can't we focus on reality instead of scripture? There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean? Then write about that instead of magic, and leave christ out of it completely. But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that. Because the many branches of christianity are all based on the same shitty story about an abuser god sending his son to die to save us from his own punishments. IT IS A DEATH CULT. And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy If it's christian, it's a death cult. If it respects the teachings of Jesus, it's a death cult, because Jesus taught that he is the son of god, that he is christ. Why are you ignoring what Jesus died for? Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god. The Nicene creed explicitly states Jesus is the son of god. What do you reckon the pope meant when he said "Jesus reveals the Father to us by involving us in his own relationship with Him"? Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations) Someone should've told Jesus. Lying is not moral, please stop sanewashing his claims. Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin? The one most christians believe, yes. But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil. The one time? LOL. God was commanding sacrifices since Genesis, including human ones: He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” Is this a figurative animal sacrifice? God loves the smell: Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth Why did he make us evil in the first place? That's what we need "salvation" from, the "sinful nature" he created us with. Leviticus 17: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Numbers 29: It is a day for you to blow the trumpets, and you shall offer a burnt offering, for a pleasing aroma to the Lord: one bull from the herd, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish; also their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for the bull, two tenths for the ram, and one tenth for each of the seven lambs; with one male goat for a sin offering, to make atonement for you Now let's get to Jesus. Hebrews 9: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. John 1: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! As previously mentioned, 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world Romans 5: More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Ephesians 1: In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace Colossians 1: For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Revelation 1: And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal Please stop pretending they don't exist. I'm not saying they're sensible. I'm saying there are more death cultists than you realize, and you enable them by pretending their book of bullshit isn't a huge problem. Can you acknowledge each of these points? A: yahweh is a death god B: the bible describes yahweh as loving C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time D: most christians think reading the bible is important E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs F: our beliefs drive our actions If you can follow that line of logic, you can understand why my parents are getting away with child abuse. There are entire communities that revere the bible, and I had no means of escape. This same abuse and worse is still happening to others because people like you refuse to hold them accountable. You think the poison is not a problem as long as no one drinks it, but the poison itself contains instructions that say "drink me and shove me down everyone else's throats, too." Repeat after me: christianity is a death cult. Magical thinking is killing us. If you have questions, ask. I can help you understand if you stop denying reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (14 children) You are setting yourself up to become an abuser. Fuck you for victim blaming. There's a reason I chose not to have kids. I did not choose to be abused. Reminder: I was VIOLENTLY BRAINWASHED against my will. What kind of person do you think that produces? I can be kind, but you have consistently rejected reality to defend the exact same ideas that ruined my life. Stop being selfish and start listening to reason, for fuck's sake. How much long can you carry this hate before you attack someone for the crime of wearing a cross shaped heirloom. My "hate" is a response to their hate. Stop falling for DARVO, they are killing us. Hate begans hate. You mean "begets". Christians hate and call it love. I was abused because fuckshits like you refuse to look beneath the surface. And hate is not something you can keep under control. It will explode unless you actually try and find peace. I am trying to find peace. You won't let me. You're saying we should all sit back and let ourselves be slaughtered. Fuck that. I am not your enemy. You are, evidently. You've consistently chosen death instead of life. I am undergoing your toxicity to try and be your friend. And I've been lied to before. Saying things doesn't make them true. Liars aren't my friends. I dont care what people claim that they are good. But that's exactly what you're doing. I look at their actions. Look at your own actions, in context. You know I was abused because people believe the bible, yet you're telling me I'm wrong for criticizing the death cult that hurt me and is hurting us all right now. It's why I call you stupid. You are not applying reason. Do they judge others, do they show compassion to strangers.. Compassion is my default, but you lost that when you defended abusers. I'm still waiting for you to stop doing that, yet you continue choosing death for all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (12 children) All I've been asking this whole time is: Please stop defending my abusers. More children are being violently brainwashed every day, and you are defending their abusers, too. I wouldn't do this if it was just about me. Please think. I have some videos on my YouTube channel where I read some bible chapters. Maybe you should take a look. It's worse than you think. I plan on making more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (10 children) I know how bad some bibles are, you don’t need to tell me yaweh is the evident bad guy. But I do need to tell you that christ was yahweh, and that christians believe Jesus was christ. This is why it is bad from the ground up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (8 children) And i need to tell you that one of the 4 gospels that are included in the latest testament specifically says Jesus was the biological son of Joseph and Maria. Point being? The lineage of Jesus is described twice, once in Mark and once in Luke. They contradict each other; one claims Joseph is the son of Jacob, one claims Joseph is the son of Heli. Yet both lead back up to Abraham. Jesus was human and thus god is humans getting to choose their own destiny and studying morality. That's not what Jesus said in the gospels. He very explicitly commanded submission, obedience, I am the only way, etc. The romans added the old crap back in but the new philosophy remained. The bible remains a book of deadly bullshit that many people believe. The gnostic literature very specifically denounced jaweh as the monster and jesus as the a human of knowledge. Which gnostic literature? All of it? It's a very broad category of beliefs, yet still insists on magical thinking in seemingly every incarnation. Jesus himself claimed yahweh was the father to whom we must all submit. Even if one does not believe Jesus was christ, Jesus did. He was a delusional narcissist, a cult leader who got himself and others killed. The abrahamic faiths are death cults. Christianity is explicit about it. It's baked into the concept of "christ". Magical thinking is deadly. Superstition is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting. You're the one deflecting. I criticized christianity for being a death cult. You brought up gnosticism as if it's somehow better or somehow erases christianity. Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature. Why can't we focus on reality instead of scripture? There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean? Then write about that instead of magic, and leave christ out of it completely. But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that. Because the many branches of christianity are all based on the same shitty story about an abuser god sending his son to die to save us from his own punishments. IT IS A DEATH CULT. And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy If it's christian, it's a death cult. If it respects the teachings of Jesus, it's a death cult, because Jesus taught that he is the son of god, that he is christ. Why are you ignoring what Jesus died for? Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god. The Nicene creed explicitly states Jesus is the son of god. What do you reckon the pope meant when he said "Jesus reveals the Father to us by involving us in his own relationship with Him"? Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations) Someone should've told Jesus. Lying is not moral, please stop sanewashing his claims. Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin? The one most christians believe, yes. But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil. The one time? LOL. God was commanding sacrifices since Genesis, including human ones: He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” Is this a figurative animal sacrifice? God loves the smell: Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth Why did he make us evil in the first place? That's what we need "salvation" from, the "sinful nature" he created us with. Leviticus 17: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Numbers 29: It is a day for you to blow the trumpets, and you shall offer a burnt offering, for a pleasing aroma to the Lord: one bull from the herd, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish; also their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for the bull, two tenths for the ram, and one tenth for each of the seven lambs; with one male goat for a sin offering, to make atonement for you Now let's get to Jesus. Hebrews 9: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. John 1: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! As previously mentioned, 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world Romans 5: More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Ephesians 1: In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace Colossians 1: For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Revelation 1: And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal Please stop pretending they don't exist. I'm not saying they're sensible. I'm saying there are more death cultists than you realize, and you enable them by pretending their book of bullshit isn't a huge problem. Can you acknowledge each of these points? A: yahweh is a death god B: the bible describes yahweh as loving C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time D: most christians think reading the bible is important E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs F: our beliefs drive our actions If you can follow that line of logic, you can understand why my parents are getting away with child abuse. There are entire communities that revere the bible, and I had no means of escape. This same abuse and worse is still happening to others because people like you refuse to hold them accountable. You think the poison is not a problem as long as no one drinks it, but the poison itself contains instructions that say "drink me and shove me down everyone else's throats, too." Repeat after me: christianity is a death cult. Magical thinking is killing us. If you have questions, ask. I can help you understand if you stop denying reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (14 children) You are setting yourself up to become an abuser. Fuck you for victim blaming. There's a reason I chose not to have kids. I did not choose to be abused. Reminder: I was VIOLENTLY BRAINWASHED against my will. What kind of person do you think that produces? I can be kind, but you have consistently rejected reality to defend the exact same ideas that ruined my life. Stop being selfish and start listening to reason, for fuck's sake. How much long can you carry this hate before you attack someone for the crime of wearing a cross shaped heirloom. My "hate" is a response to their hate. Stop falling for DARVO, they are killing us. Hate begans hate. You mean "begets". Christians hate and call it love. I was abused because fuckshits like you refuse to look beneath the surface. And hate is not something you can keep under control. It will explode unless you actually try and find peace. I am trying to find peace. You won't let me. You're saying we should all sit back and let ourselves be slaughtered. Fuck that. I am not your enemy. You are, evidently. You've consistently chosen death instead of life. I am undergoing your toxicity to try and be your friend. And I've been lied to before. Saying things doesn't make them true. Liars aren't my friends. I dont care what people claim that they are good. But that's exactly what you're doing. I look at their actions. Look at your own actions, in context. You know I was abused because people believe the bible, yet you're telling me I'm wrong for criticizing the death cult that hurt me and is hurting us all right now. It's why I call you stupid. You are not applying reason. Do they judge others, do they show compassion to strangers.. Compassion is my default, but you lost that when you defended abusers. I'm still waiting for you to stop doing that, yet you continue choosing death for all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (12 children) All I've been asking this whole time is: Please stop defending my abusers. More children are being violently brainwashed every day, and you are defending their abusers, too. I wouldn't do this if it was just about me. Please think. I have some videos on my YouTube channel where I read some bible chapters. Maybe you should take a look. It's worse than you think. I plan on making more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (10 children) I know how bad some bibles are, you don’t need to tell me yaweh is the evident bad guy. But I do need to tell you that christ was yahweh, and that christians believe Jesus was christ. This is why it is bad from the ground up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (8 children) And i need to tell you that one of the 4 gospels that are included in the latest testament specifically says Jesus was the biological son of Joseph and Maria. Point being? The lineage of Jesus is described twice, once in Mark and once in Luke. They contradict each other; one claims Joseph is the son of Jacob, one claims Joseph is the son of Heli. Yet both lead back up to Abraham. Jesus was human and thus god is humans getting to choose their own destiny and studying morality. That's not what Jesus said in the gospels. He very explicitly commanded submission, obedience, I am the only way, etc. The romans added the old crap back in but the new philosophy remained. The bible remains a book of deadly bullshit that many people believe. The gnostic literature very specifically denounced jaweh as the monster and jesus as the a human of knowledge. Which gnostic literature? All of it? It's a very broad category of beliefs, yet still insists on magical thinking in seemingly every incarnation. Jesus himself claimed yahweh was the father to whom we must all submit. Even if one does not believe Jesus was christ, Jesus did. He was a delusional narcissist, a cult leader who got himself and others killed. The abrahamic faiths are death cults. Christianity is explicit about it. It's baked into the concept of "christ". Magical thinking is deadly. Superstition is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting. You're the one deflecting. I criticized christianity for being a death cult. You brought up gnosticism as if it's somehow better or somehow erases christianity. Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature. Why can't we focus on reality instead of scripture? There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean? Then write about that instead of magic, and leave christ out of it completely. But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that. Because the many branches of christianity are all based on the same shitty story about an abuser god sending his son to die to save us from his own punishments. IT IS A DEATH CULT. And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy If it's christian, it's a death cult. If it respects the teachings of Jesus, it's a death cult, because Jesus taught that he is the son of god, that he is christ. Why are you ignoring what Jesus died for? Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god. The Nicene creed explicitly states Jesus is the son of god. What do you reckon the pope meant when he said "Jesus reveals the Father to us by involving us in his own relationship with Him"? Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations) Someone should've told Jesus. Lying is not moral, please stop sanewashing his claims. Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin? The one most christians believe, yes. But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil. The one time? LOL. God was commanding sacrifices since Genesis, including human ones: He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” Is this a figurative animal sacrifice? God loves the smell: Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth Why did he make us evil in the first place? That's what we need "salvation" from, the "sinful nature" he created us with. Leviticus 17: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Numbers 29: It is a day for you to blow the trumpets, and you shall offer a burnt offering, for a pleasing aroma to the Lord: one bull from the herd, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish; also their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for the bull, two tenths for the ram, and one tenth for each of the seven lambs; with one male goat for a sin offering, to make atonement for you Now let's get to Jesus. Hebrews 9: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. John 1: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! As previously mentioned, 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world Romans 5: More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Ephesians 1: In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace Colossians 1: For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Revelation 1: And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal Please stop pretending they don't exist. I'm not saying they're sensible. I'm saying there are more death cultists than you realize, and you enable them by pretending their book of bullshit isn't a huge problem. Can you acknowledge each of these points? A: yahweh is a death god B: the bible describes yahweh as loving C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time D: most christians think reading the bible is important E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs F: our beliefs drive our actions If you can follow that line of logic, you can understand why my parents are getting away with child abuse. There are entire communities that revere the bible, and I had no means of escape. This same abuse and worse is still happening to others because people like you refuse to hold them accountable. You think the poison is not a problem as long as no one drinks it, but the poison itself contains instructions that say "drink me and shove me down everyone else's throats, too." Repeat after me: christianity is a death cult. Magical thinking is killing us. If you have questions, ask. I can help you understand if you stop denying reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. 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[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (12 children) All I've been asking this whole time is: Please stop defending my abusers. More children are being violently brainwashed every day, and you are defending their abusers, too. I wouldn't do this if it was just about me. Please think. I have some videos on my YouTube channel where I read some bible chapters. Maybe you should take a look. It's worse than you think. I plan on making more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (10 children) I know how bad some bibles are, you don’t need to tell me yaweh is the evident bad guy. But I do need to tell you that christ was yahweh, and that christians believe Jesus was christ. This is why it is bad from the ground up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (8 children) And i need to tell you that one of the 4 gospels that are included in the latest testament specifically says Jesus was the biological son of Joseph and Maria. Point being? The lineage of Jesus is described twice, once in Mark and once in Luke. They contradict each other; one claims Joseph is the son of Jacob, one claims Joseph is the son of Heli. Yet both lead back up to Abraham. Jesus was human and thus god is humans getting to choose their own destiny and studying morality. That's not what Jesus said in the gospels. He very explicitly commanded submission, obedience, I am the only way, etc. The romans added the old crap back in but the new philosophy remained. The bible remains a book of deadly bullshit that many people believe. The gnostic literature very specifically denounced jaweh as the monster and jesus as the a human of knowledge. Which gnostic literature? All of it? It's a very broad category of beliefs, yet still insists on magical thinking in seemingly every incarnation. Jesus himself claimed yahweh was the father to whom we must all submit. Even if one does not believe Jesus was christ, Jesus did. He was a delusional narcissist, a cult leader who got himself and others killed. The abrahamic faiths are death cults. Christianity is explicit about it. It's baked into the concept of "christ". Magical thinking is deadly. Superstition is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting. You're the one deflecting. I criticized christianity for being a death cult. You brought up gnosticism as if it's somehow better or somehow erases christianity. Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature. Why can't we focus on reality instead of scripture? There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean? Then write about that instead of magic, and leave christ out of it completely. But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that. Because the many branches of christianity are all based on the same shitty story about an abuser god sending his son to die to save us from his own punishments. IT IS A DEATH CULT. And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy If it's christian, it's a death cult. If it respects the teachings of Jesus, it's a death cult, because Jesus taught that he is the son of god, that he is christ. Why are you ignoring what Jesus died for? Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god. The Nicene creed explicitly states Jesus is the son of god. What do you reckon the pope meant when he said "Jesus reveals the Father to us by involving us in his own relationship with Him"? Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations) Someone should've told Jesus. Lying is not moral, please stop sanewashing his claims. Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin? The one most christians believe, yes. But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil. The one time? LOL. God was commanding sacrifices since Genesis, including human ones: He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” Is this a figurative animal sacrifice? God loves the smell: Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth Why did he make us evil in the first place? That's what we need "salvation" from, the "sinful nature" he created us with. Leviticus 17: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Numbers 29: It is a day for you to blow the trumpets, and you shall offer a burnt offering, for a pleasing aroma to the Lord: one bull from the herd, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish; also their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for the bull, two tenths for the ram, and one tenth for each of the seven lambs; with one male goat for a sin offering, to make atonement for you Now let's get to Jesus. Hebrews 9: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. John 1: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! As previously mentioned, 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world Romans 5: More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Ephesians 1: In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace Colossians 1: For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Revelation 1: And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal Please stop pretending they don't exist. I'm not saying they're sensible. I'm saying there are more death cultists than you realize, and you enable them by pretending their book of bullshit isn't a huge problem. Can you acknowledge each of these points? A: yahweh is a death god B: the bible describes yahweh as loving C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time D: most christians think reading the bible is important E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs F: our beliefs drive our actions If you can follow that line of logic, you can understand why my parents are getting away with child abuse. There are entire communities that revere the bible, and I had no means of escape. This same abuse and worse is still happening to others because people like you refuse to hold them accountable. You think the poison is not a problem as long as no one drinks it, but the poison itself contains instructions that say "drink me and shove me down everyone else's throats, too." Repeat after me: christianity is a death cult. Magical thinking is killing us. If you have questions, ask. I can help you understand if you stop denying reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. 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[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (12 children) All I've been asking this whole time is: Please stop defending my abusers. More children are being violently brainwashed every day, and you are defending their abusers, too. I wouldn't do this if it was just about me. Please think. I have some videos on my YouTube channel where I read some bible chapters. Maybe you should take a look. It's worse than you think. I plan on making more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (10 children) I know how bad some bibles are, you don’t need to tell me yaweh is the evident bad guy. But I do need to tell you that christ was yahweh, and that christians believe Jesus was christ. This is why it is bad from the ground up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (8 children) And i need to tell you that one of the 4 gospels that are included in the latest testament specifically says Jesus was the biological son of Joseph and Maria. Point being? The lineage of Jesus is described twice, once in Mark and once in Luke. They contradict each other; one claims Joseph is the son of Jacob, one claims Joseph is the son of Heli. Yet both lead back up to Abraham. Jesus was human and thus god is humans getting to choose their own destiny and studying morality. That's not what Jesus said in the gospels. He very explicitly commanded submission, obedience, I am the only way, etc. The romans added the old crap back in but the new philosophy remained. The bible remains a book of deadly bullshit that many people believe. The gnostic literature very specifically denounced jaweh as the monster and jesus as the a human of knowledge. Which gnostic literature? All of it? It's a very broad category of beliefs, yet still insists on magical thinking in seemingly every incarnation. Jesus himself claimed yahweh was the father to whom we must all submit. Even if one does not believe Jesus was christ, Jesus did. He was a delusional narcissist, a cult leader who got himself and others killed. The abrahamic faiths are death cults. Christianity is explicit about it. It's baked into the concept of "christ". Magical thinking is deadly. Superstition is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting. You're the one deflecting. I criticized christianity for being a death cult. You brought up gnosticism as if it's somehow better or somehow erases christianity. Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature. Why can't we focus on reality instead of scripture? There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean? Then write about that instead of magic, and leave christ out of it completely. But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that. Because the many branches of christianity are all based on the same shitty story about an abuser god sending his son to die to save us from his own punishments. IT IS A DEATH CULT. And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy If it's christian, it's a death cult. If it respects the teachings of Jesus, it's a death cult, because Jesus taught that he is the son of god, that he is christ. Why are you ignoring what Jesus died for? Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god. The Nicene creed explicitly states Jesus is the son of god. What do you reckon the pope meant when he said "Jesus reveals the Father to us by involving us in his own relationship with Him"? Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations) Someone should've told Jesus. Lying is not moral, please stop sanewashing his claims. Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin? The one most christians believe, yes. But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil. The one time? LOL. God was commanding sacrifices since Genesis, including human ones: He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” Is this a figurative animal sacrifice? God loves the smell: Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth Why did he make us evil in the first place? That's what we need "salvation" from, the "sinful nature" he created us with. Leviticus 17: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Numbers 29: It is a day for you to blow the trumpets, and you shall offer a burnt offering, for a pleasing aroma to the Lord: one bull from the herd, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish; also their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for the bull, two tenths for the ram, and one tenth for each of the seven lambs; with one male goat for a sin offering, to make atonement for you Now let's get to Jesus. Hebrews 9: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. John 1: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! As previously mentioned, 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world Romans 5: More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Ephesians 1: In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace Colossians 1: For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Revelation 1: And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal Please stop pretending they don't exist. I'm not saying they're sensible. I'm saying there are more death cultists than you realize, and you enable them by pretending their book of bullshit isn't a huge problem. Can you acknowledge each of these points? A: yahweh is a death god B: the bible describes yahweh as loving C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time D: most christians think reading the bible is important E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs F: our beliefs drive our actions If you can follow that line of logic, you can understand why my parents are getting away with child abuse. There are entire communities that revere the bible, and I had no means of escape. This same abuse and worse is still happening to others because people like you refuse to hold them accountable. You think the poison is not a problem as long as no one drinks it, but the poison itself contains instructions that say "drink me and shove me down everyone else's throats, too." Repeat after me: christianity is a death cult. Magical thinking is killing us. If you have questions, ask. I can help you understand if you stop denying reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (10 children) I know how bad some bibles are, you don’t need to tell me yaweh is the evident bad guy. But I do need to tell you that christ was yahweh, and that christians believe Jesus was christ. This is why it is bad from the ground up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (8 children) And i need to tell you that one of the 4 gospels that are included in the latest testament specifically says Jesus was the biological son of Joseph and Maria. Point being? The lineage of Jesus is described twice, once in Mark and once in Luke. They contradict each other; one claims Joseph is the son of Jacob, one claims Joseph is the son of Heli. Yet both lead back up to Abraham. Jesus was human and thus god is humans getting to choose their own destiny and studying morality. That's not what Jesus said in the gospels. He very explicitly commanded submission, obedience, I am the only way, etc. The romans added the old crap back in but the new philosophy remained. The bible remains a book of deadly bullshit that many people believe. The gnostic literature very specifically denounced jaweh as the monster and jesus as the a human of knowledge. Which gnostic literature? All of it? It's a very broad category of beliefs, yet still insists on magical thinking in seemingly every incarnation. Jesus himself claimed yahweh was the father to whom we must all submit. Even if one does not believe Jesus was christ, Jesus did. He was a delusional narcissist, a cult leader who got himself and others killed. The abrahamic faiths are death cults. Christianity is explicit about it. It's baked into the concept of "christ". Magical thinking is deadly. Superstition is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting. You're the one deflecting. I criticized christianity for being a death cult. You brought up gnosticism as if it's somehow better or somehow erases christianity. Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature. Why can't we focus on reality instead of scripture? There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean? Then write about that instead of magic, and leave christ out of it completely. But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that. Because the many branches of christianity are all based on the same shitty story about an abuser god sending his son to die to save us from his own punishments. IT IS A DEATH CULT. And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy If it's christian, it's a death cult. If it respects the teachings of Jesus, it's a death cult, because Jesus taught that he is the son of god, that he is christ. Why are you ignoring what Jesus died for? Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god. The Nicene creed explicitly states Jesus is the son of god. What do you reckon the pope meant when he said "Jesus reveals the Father to us by involving us in his own relationship with Him"? Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations) Someone should've told Jesus. Lying is not moral, please stop sanewashing his claims. Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin? The one most christians believe, yes. But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil. The one time? LOL. God was commanding sacrifices since Genesis, including human ones: He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” Is this a figurative animal sacrifice? God loves the smell: Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth Why did he make us evil in the first place? That's what we need "salvation" from, the "sinful nature" he created us with. Leviticus 17: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Numbers 29: It is a day for you to blow the trumpets, and you shall offer a burnt offering, for a pleasing aroma to the Lord: one bull from the herd, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish; also their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for the bull, two tenths for the ram, and one tenth for each of the seven lambs; with one male goat for a sin offering, to make atonement for you Now let's get to Jesus. Hebrews 9: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. John 1: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! As previously mentioned, 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world Romans 5: More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Ephesians 1: In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace Colossians 1: For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Revelation 1: And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal Please stop pretending they don't exist. I'm not saying they're sensible. I'm saying there are more death cultists than you realize, and you enable them by pretending their book of bullshit isn't a huge problem. Can you acknowledge each of these points? A: yahweh is a death god B: the bible describes yahweh as loving C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time D: most christians think reading the bible is important E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs F: our beliefs drive our actions If you can follow that line of logic, you can understand why my parents are getting away with child abuse. There are entire communities that revere the bible, and I had no means of escape. This same abuse and worse is still happening to others because people like you refuse to hold them accountable. You think the poison is not a problem as long as no one drinks it, but the poison itself contains instructions that say "drink me and shove me down everyone else's throats, too." Repeat after me: christianity is a death cult. Magical thinking is killing us. If you have questions, ask. I can help you understand if you stop denying reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. 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[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (10 children) I know how bad some bibles are, you don’t need to tell me yaweh is the evident bad guy. But I do need to tell you that christ was yahweh, and that christians believe Jesus was christ. This is why it is bad from the ground up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (8 children) And i need to tell you that one of the 4 gospels that are included in the latest testament specifically says Jesus was the biological son of Joseph and Maria. Point being? The lineage of Jesus is described twice, once in Mark and once in Luke. They contradict each other; one claims Joseph is the son of Jacob, one claims Joseph is the son of Heli. Yet both lead back up to Abraham. Jesus was human and thus god is humans getting to choose their own destiny and studying morality. That's not what Jesus said in the gospels. He very explicitly commanded submission, obedience, I am the only way, etc. The romans added the old crap back in but the new philosophy remained. The bible remains a book of deadly bullshit that many people believe. The gnostic literature very specifically denounced jaweh as the monster and jesus as the a human of knowledge. Which gnostic literature? All of it? It's a very broad category of beliefs, yet still insists on magical thinking in seemingly every incarnation. Jesus himself claimed yahweh was the father to whom we must all submit. Even if one does not believe Jesus was christ, Jesus did. He was a delusional narcissist, a cult leader who got himself and others killed. The abrahamic faiths are death cults. Christianity is explicit about it. It's baked into the concept of "christ". Magical thinking is deadly. Superstition is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting. You're the one deflecting. I criticized christianity for being a death cult. You brought up gnosticism as if it's somehow better or somehow erases christianity. Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature. Why can't we focus on reality instead of scripture? There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean? Then write about that instead of magic, and leave christ out of it completely. But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that. Because the many branches of christianity are all based on the same shitty story about an abuser god sending his son to die to save us from his own punishments. IT IS A DEATH CULT. And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy If it's christian, it's a death cult. If it respects the teachings of Jesus, it's a death cult, because Jesus taught that he is the son of god, that he is christ. Why are you ignoring what Jesus died for? Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god. The Nicene creed explicitly states Jesus is the son of god. What do you reckon the pope meant when he said "Jesus reveals the Father to us by involving us in his own relationship with Him"? Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations) Someone should've told Jesus. Lying is not moral, please stop sanewashing his claims. Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin? The one most christians believe, yes. But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil. The one time? LOL. God was commanding sacrifices since Genesis, including human ones: He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” Is this a figurative animal sacrifice? God loves the smell: Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth Why did he make us evil in the first place? That's what we need "salvation" from, the "sinful nature" he created us with. Leviticus 17: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Numbers 29: It is a day for you to blow the trumpets, and you shall offer a burnt offering, for a pleasing aroma to the Lord: one bull from the herd, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish; also their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for the bull, two tenths for the ram, and one tenth for each of the seven lambs; with one male goat for a sin offering, to make atonement for you Now let's get to Jesus. Hebrews 9: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. John 1: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! As previously mentioned, 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world Romans 5: More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Ephesians 1: In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace Colossians 1: For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Revelation 1: And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal Please stop pretending they don't exist. I'm not saying they're sensible. I'm saying there are more death cultists than you realize, and you enable them by pretending their book of bullshit isn't a huge problem. Can you acknowledge each of these points? A: yahweh is a death god B: the bible describes yahweh as loving C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time D: most christians think reading the bible is important E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs F: our beliefs drive our actions If you can follow that line of logic, you can understand why my parents are getting away with child abuse. There are entire communities that revere the bible, and I had no means of escape. This same abuse and worse is still happening to others because people like you refuse to hold them accountable. You think the poison is not a problem as long as no one drinks it, but the poison itself contains instructions that say "drink me and shove me down everyone else's throats, too." Repeat after me: christianity is a death cult. Magical thinking is killing us. If you have questions, ask. I can help you understand if you stop denying reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (8 children) And i need to tell you that one of the 4 gospels that are included in the latest testament specifically says Jesus was the biological son of Joseph and Maria. Point being? The lineage of Jesus is described twice, once in Mark and once in Luke. They contradict each other; one claims Joseph is the son of Jacob, one claims Joseph is the son of Heli. Yet both lead back up to Abraham. Jesus was human and thus god is humans getting to choose their own destiny and studying morality. That's not what Jesus said in the gospels. He very explicitly commanded submission, obedience, I am the only way, etc. The romans added the old crap back in but the new philosophy remained. The bible remains a book of deadly bullshit that many people believe. The gnostic literature very specifically denounced jaweh as the monster and jesus as the a human of knowledge. Which gnostic literature? All of it? It's a very broad category of beliefs, yet still insists on magical thinking in seemingly every incarnation. Jesus himself claimed yahweh was the father to whom we must all submit. Even if one does not believe Jesus was christ, Jesus did. He was a delusional narcissist, a cult leader who got himself and others killed. The abrahamic faiths are death cults. Christianity is explicit about it. It's baked into the concept of "christ". Magical thinking is deadly. Superstition is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting. You're the one deflecting. I criticized christianity for being a death cult. You brought up gnosticism as if it's somehow better or somehow erases christianity. Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature. Why can't we focus on reality instead of scripture? There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean? Then write about that instead of magic, and leave christ out of it completely. But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that. Because the many branches of christianity are all based on the same shitty story about an abuser god sending his son to die to save us from his own punishments. IT IS A DEATH CULT. And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy If it's christian, it's a death cult. If it respects the teachings of Jesus, it's a death cult, because Jesus taught that he is the son of god, that he is christ. Why are you ignoring what Jesus died for? Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god. The Nicene creed explicitly states Jesus is the son of god. What do you reckon the pope meant when he said "Jesus reveals the Father to us by involving us in his own relationship with Him"? Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations) Someone should've told Jesus. Lying is not moral, please stop sanewashing his claims. Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin? The one most christians believe, yes. But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil. The one time? LOL. God was commanding sacrifices since Genesis, including human ones: He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” Is this a figurative animal sacrifice? God loves the smell: Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth Why did he make us evil in the first place? That's what we need "salvation" from, the "sinful nature" he created us with. Leviticus 17: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Numbers 29: It is a day for you to blow the trumpets, and you shall offer a burnt offering, for a pleasing aroma to the Lord: one bull from the herd, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish; also their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for the bull, two tenths for the ram, and one tenth for each of the seven lambs; with one male goat for a sin offering, to make atonement for you Now let's get to Jesus. Hebrews 9: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. John 1: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! As previously mentioned, 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world Romans 5: More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Ephesians 1: In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace Colossians 1: For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Revelation 1: And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal Please stop pretending they don't exist. I'm not saying they're sensible. I'm saying there are more death cultists than you realize, and you enable them by pretending their book of bullshit isn't a huge problem. Can you acknowledge each of these points? A: yahweh is a death god B: the bible describes yahweh as loving C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time D: most christians think reading the bible is important E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs F: our beliefs drive our actions If you can follow that line of logic, you can understand why my parents are getting away with child abuse. There are entire communities that revere the bible, and I had no means of escape. This same abuse and worse is still happening to others because people like you refuse to hold them accountable. You think the poison is not a problem as long as no one drinks it, but the poison itself contains instructions that say "drink me and shove me down everyone else's throats, too." Repeat after me: christianity is a death cult. Magical thinking is killing us. If you have questions, ask. I can help you understand if you stop denying reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (8 children) And i need to tell you that one of the 4 gospels that are included in the latest testament specifically says Jesus was the biological son of Joseph and Maria. Point being? The lineage of Jesus is described twice, once in Mark and once in Luke. They contradict each other; one claims Joseph is the son of Jacob, one claims Joseph is the son of Heli. Yet both lead back up to Abraham. Jesus was human and thus god is humans getting to choose their own destiny and studying morality. That's not what Jesus said in the gospels. He very explicitly commanded submission, obedience, I am the only way, etc. The romans added the old crap back in but the new philosophy remained. The bible remains a book of deadly bullshit that many people believe. The gnostic literature very specifically denounced jaweh as the monster and jesus as the a human of knowledge. Which gnostic literature? All of it? It's a very broad category of beliefs, yet still insists on magical thinking in seemingly every incarnation. Jesus himself claimed yahweh was the father to whom we must all submit. Even if one does not believe Jesus was christ, Jesus did. He was a delusional narcissist, a cult leader who got himself and others killed. The abrahamic faiths are death cults. Christianity is explicit about it. It's baked into the concept of "christ". Magical thinking is deadly. Superstition is harmful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting. You're the one deflecting. I criticized christianity for being a death cult. You brought up gnosticism as if it's somehow better or somehow erases christianity. Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature. Why can't we focus on reality instead of scripture? There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean? Then write about that instead of magic, and leave christ out of it completely. But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that. Because the many branches of christianity are all based on the same shitty story about an abuser god sending his son to die to save us from his own punishments. IT IS A DEATH CULT. And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy If it's christian, it's a death cult. If it respects the teachings of Jesus, it's a death cult, because Jesus taught that he is the son of god, that he is christ. Why are you ignoring what Jesus died for? Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god. The Nicene creed explicitly states Jesus is the son of god. What do you reckon the pope meant when he said "Jesus reveals the Father to us by involving us in his own relationship with Him"? Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations) Someone should've told Jesus. Lying is not moral, please stop sanewashing his claims. Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin? The one most christians believe, yes. But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil. The one time? LOL. God was commanding sacrifices since Genesis, including human ones: He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” Is this a figurative animal sacrifice? God loves the smell: Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth Why did he make us evil in the first place? That's what we need "salvation" from, the "sinful nature" he created us with. Leviticus 17: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Numbers 29: It is a day for you to blow the trumpets, and you shall offer a burnt offering, for a pleasing aroma to the Lord: one bull from the herd, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish; also their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for the bull, two tenths for the ram, and one tenth for each of the seven lambs; with one male goat for a sin offering, to make atonement for you Now let's get to Jesus. Hebrews 9: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. John 1: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! As previously mentioned, 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world Romans 5: More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Ephesians 1: In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace Colossians 1: For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Revelation 1: And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal Please stop pretending they don't exist. I'm not saying they're sensible. I'm saying there are more death cultists than you realize, and you enable them by pretending their book of bullshit isn't a huge problem. Can you acknowledge each of these points? A: yahweh is a death god B: the bible describes yahweh as loving C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time D: most christians think reading the bible is important E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs F: our beliefs drive our actions If you can follow that line of logic, you can understand why my parents are getting away with child abuse. There are entire communities that revere the bible, and I had no means of escape. This same abuse and worse is still happening to others because people like you refuse to hold them accountable. You think the poison is not a problem as long as no one drinks it, but the poison itself contains instructions that say "drink me and shove me down everyone else's throats, too." Repeat after me: christianity is a death cult. Magical thinking is killing us. If you have questions, ask. I can help you understand if you stop denying reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting. You're the one deflecting. I criticized christianity for being a death cult. You brought up gnosticism as if it's somehow better or somehow erases christianity. Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature. Why can't we focus on reality instead of scripture? There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean? Then write about that instead of magic, and leave christ out of it completely. But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that. Because the many branches of christianity are all based on the same shitty story about an abuser god sending his son to die to save us from his own punishments. IT IS A DEATH CULT. And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy If it's christian, it's a death cult. If it respects the teachings of Jesus, it's a death cult, because Jesus taught that he is the son of god, that he is christ. Why are you ignoring what Jesus died for? Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god. The Nicene creed explicitly states Jesus is the son of god. What do you reckon the pope meant when he said "Jesus reveals the Father to us by involving us in his own relationship with Him"? Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations) Someone should've told Jesus. Lying is not moral, please stop sanewashing his claims. Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin? The one most christians believe, yes. But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil. The one time? LOL. God was commanding sacrifices since Genesis, including human ones: He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” Is this a figurative animal sacrifice? God loves the smell: Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth Why did he make us evil in the first place? That's what we need "salvation" from, the "sinful nature" he created us with. Leviticus 17: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Numbers 29: It is a day for you to blow the trumpets, and you shall offer a burnt offering, for a pleasing aroma to the Lord: one bull from the herd, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish; also their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for the bull, two tenths for the ram, and one tenth for each of the seven lambs; with one male goat for a sin offering, to make atonement for you Now let's get to Jesus. Hebrews 9: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. John 1: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! As previously mentioned, 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world Romans 5: More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Ephesians 1: In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace Colossians 1: For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Revelation 1: And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal Please stop pretending they don't exist. I'm not saying they're sensible. I'm saying there are more death cultists than you realize, and you enable them by pretending their book of bullshit isn't a huge problem. Can you acknowledge each of these points? A: yahweh is a death god B: the bible describes yahweh as loving C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time D: most christians think reading the bible is important E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs F: our beliefs drive our actions If you can follow that line of logic, you can understand why my parents are getting away with child abuse. There are entire communities that revere the bible, and I had no means of escape. This same abuse and worse is still happening to others because people like you refuse to hold them accountable. You think the poison is not a problem as long as no one drinks it, but the poison itself contains instructions that say "drink me and shove me down everyone else's throats, too." Repeat after me: christianity is a death cult. Magical thinking is killing us. If you have questions, ask. I can help you understand if you stop denying reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (6 children) Ok, this one came out of left field. Are we flipping the script? interesting. You're the one deflecting. I criticized christianity for being a death cult. You brought up gnosticism as if it's somehow better or somehow erases christianity. Gnosiscism does have many branches that are still believing in magic, but they dont all and i dont think they where originally if i interpret the older literature. Why can't we focus on reality instead of scripture? There is some evidence that they orginate from Plato, doctorine is the cave. Know what i mean? Then write about that instead of magic, and leave christ out of it completely. But more to the point how can you see that this is many branches and ask which one but not see how i have repeatedly asked the same question every single time you mention the bible because truly all religions are like that. Because the many branches of christianity are all based on the same shitty story about an abuser god sending his son to die to save us from his own punishments. IT IS A DEATH CULT. And gnosticism is still a branch of christian Jesus-character philosophy If it's christian, it's a death cult. If it respects the teachings of Jesus, it's a death cult, because Jesus taught that he is the son of god, that he is christ. Why are you ignoring what Jesus died for? Jesus does not make claims to be the son of god in every text, most of the texts i grew up with in a catholic school did not mention god. The Nicene creed explicitly states Jesus is the son of god. What do you reckon the pope meant when he said "Jesus reveals the Father to us by involving us in his own relationship with Him"? Sure some did and they helped me lots in understanding that yaweh is the egomaniac cancer and jesus the example of moral acts (still on occasion misused by bad interpretations) Someone should've told Jesus. Lying is not moral, please stop sanewashing his claims. Your referring to the interpretation of christ as dying to take away all sin? The one most christians believe, yes. But the one time we where told that one it came with a warning that its figurative and does not mean we cant do evil. The one time? LOL. God was commanding sacrifices since Genesis, including human ones: He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” Is this a figurative animal sacrifice? God loves the smell: Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar. And when the Lord smelled the pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth Why did he make us evil in the first place? That's what we need "salvation" from, the "sinful nature" he created us with. Leviticus 17: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Numbers 29: It is a day for you to blow the trumpets, and you shall offer a burnt offering, for a pleasing aroma to the Lord: one bull from the herd, one ram, seven male lambs a year old without blemish; also their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenths of an ephah for the bull, two tenths for the ram, and one tenth for each of the seven lambs; with one male goat for a sin offering, to make atonement for you Now let's get to Jesus. Hebrews 9: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. John 1: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! As previously mentioned, 1 John 2: He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world Romans 5: More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Ephesians 1: In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace Colossians 1: For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Revelation 1: And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood I do not think anyone sensible still takes that one literal Please stop pretending they don't exist. I'm not saying they're sensible. I'm saying there are more death cultists than you realize, and you enable them by pretending their book of bullshit isn't a huge problem. Can you acknowledge each of these points? A: yahweh is a death god B: the bible describes yahweh as loving C: the bible is perhaps the most widely read book of all time D: most christians think reading the bible is important E: our experiences, including what we read, shape our beliefs F: our beliefs drive our actions If you can follow that line of logic, you can understand why my parents are getting away with child abuse. There are entire communities that revere the bible, and I had no means of escape. This same abuse and worse is still happening to others because people like you refuse to hold them accountable. You think the poison is not a problem as long as no one drinks it, but the poison itself contains instructions that say "drink me and shove me down everyone else's throats, too." Repeat after me: christianity is a death cult. Magical thinking is killing us. If you have questions, ask. I can help you understand if you stop denying reality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (4 children) As an insult absolutely, in some interpretations surely. In every reasonable interpretation. If god exists and is sufficiently powerful, every death is his choice. If god is not powerful enough for us to know he is there, we don't assume he is. Theism is unreasonable. It's a form of magical thinking. In the christian bible, which I'll remind you most christians consider to be important, he explicitly demands human sacrifice and commits murders and genocides. No, I never got that vibe from any of them. I have heard people claim it though but then used the bible to see how clearly that is not the case. I don’t think those people read the same version. It's explicit. What was that John 3:16 verse again? “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Romans 5: But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Zephaniah 3: The Lord your God is in your midst, a mighty one who will save; he will rejoice over you with gladness; he will quiet you by his love; he will exult over you with loud singing. 1 John 3: See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Psalm 86: But you, O Lord, are a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. Laughable, considering god's behavior in the old testament. But the book says it's love, and the book says it's true, so stupid people like my parents believe. Deuteronomy 7: Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations We get a twofer in Ephesians 2: But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ And in Jeremiah 31: The Lord appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you. Etc. No, because there is no a singular book that is the entire bible, biblical literature as a collection i can believe though but dont know much about asian literature to compare. It's the one called "the christian bible". https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-book-of-non-fiction No because they cant even agree wich text is and is not the bible. They never did You forgot the research I cited before. A majority of U.S. Christians say the Bible is extremely important or very important in their lives https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/importance-of-religion-and-the-bible/ I acknowledge that it also says: The vast majority of members of historically Black Protestant denominations, evangelical Protestants, and Latter-day Saints say the Bible is extremely or very important in their lives. Fewer than half of mainline Protestants and Catholics say this. But those protestants and catholics are factually wrong, the bible is the basis for many of their beliefs. This is one of my points: even if YOU don't think the bible is very important in your life, someone else does, and their actions as a result are impacting your life every day. Of course. Thats why critical thinking skills are so important. I agree, which is partly why I find it so frustrating to talk to you. You seem capable, but your blind spots are huge and you reject reality. You pretend it's more moral to tolerate willful ignorance than to correct it. For some that may be the case but agnostic beliefs don’t always work that way. Lol. Please think about it. Agnostic beliefs still drive choices, it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Do you know any person at all who is completely mindless, no brain, yet still makes choices? I don't. I don't see how it's possible. Our brains process our experiences into beliefs which, combined with other aspects of our biology, result in conscious or subconscious decisions and physical actions. What do you think prompts human beings to act, if not their beliefs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) The people who told you its supposed to be literal are lying or mentally living in the dark ages. They got that idea from the bible itself. In my case, it was evangelicals. But the fact remains that every abrahamic faith is a death cult, including christianity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago Pressuring your believes onto others and getting angry when they don’t is pretty bad. No matter what the believes entail. Surely you don't believe that. Example: you see a grown adult taking advantage of a young person in a heinous manner. That should make you angry enough to intervene. Now bring it to the conversational level. You chat with someone who reveals they love taking advantage of young people. Do you try to change their minds? Do you get angry when they deny or dismiss the harm they are doing? I do, because I am a human being with empathy. Teach people to think critically and let them form opinions of their own. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're still denying that christianity is a death cult. Post-theism is the belief that religions related to, or focus on the worship of a God or deitiesbelongs to a previous stage of human development and, thus, a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete. It is a variant of nontheism. The term appears in liberal Christianity and post-Christianity. But we still have more traditional christians, most of whom believe in god. We still have theists. We still have the concept of "god", ill-defined as it is, necessitating "atheism" as the position of one who does not believe in any god. a division of theism vs. atheism is obsolete I wish. Many theists won't shut up about their imaginary friend, and they pretend I'm wrong and deserving of punishment for not accepting their baseless claims. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago Correct! Thank you. It is frightening how living human beings will defend literal death cults WHILE THEY ARE KILLING US. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago Yeah... I figured that out a couple comments in. I don't let people on Internet ruin my day thankfully. Thanks for the heads up though permalink fedilink source parent