There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right.

Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary.

STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE.

Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself

Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that.

I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with.

Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic.

So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat.

Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims.

Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics?

Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize.

Or would the irony get lost on you?

I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it.

Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying.

So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope.

Have. You. Read. The. Text?

Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either)

Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit.

Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes?

That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally.

Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass.

The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars.

If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian.

Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others.

I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence.

Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better.

Stop allowing them to have a hold over you.

STOP DEFENDING THEM.

Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more.

Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority.

Why are you pretending these connections don't exist?

I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait.

You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church.

I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ.

It's a bigger problem than you realize.

Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot.

No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off.

And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth.