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[–] 0 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Spirits don't exist.

No shit.

There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right.

Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself

I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with. So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat.

But also your not the first person with this problem that i deal with in life.

Maybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics? Or would the irony get lost on you?

On the actual topic of the bible versus.

So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope.

Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either)

That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally.

The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars. Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others.

Stop allowing them to have a hold over you.

I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait.

Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (7 children)

    There is no single agreed upon definition of spirituality, this one feels all right.

    Dumb fuck. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. If it is a real thing, describe it in real terms. My father believes the christian bible because it "feels right" despite evidence to the contrary.

    STOP NORMALIZING MAGICAL THINKING, YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE.

    Spirituality is a broad human experience that involves meaning, purpose, and a connection to something larger than oneself

    Bootlicking? "Larger" how? It's meaningless bullshit because you want to feel special. You don't need that.

    I told you i consider myself spiritual and you instantly went for the attack without even knowing what i mean with.

    Apparently I did know what you mean, your definition is pathetic.

    So the gloves are off, The moment you started verbally abusing me again you get tit for tat.

    Your death will be a relief to us all. I attack your arguments. I call you stupid because you reject logic. I call you selfish because you think your imaginary spirituality is worth more than my real life. I call you a coward because you side with the abusers instead of the victims.

    Ayybe i should start preaching about how alcohol is killing people and everyone who has an occasional sip enables abuse by alcoholics?

    Do it! It's a bigger problem than people realize.

    Or would the irony get lost on you?

    I acknowledge it's a poison. It's exactly why I'm getting treatment for it.

    Again, fuck off with your false equivalences. This is not a game, people are dying.

    So they are the “canonical gospels” after all. Those we have discussed do not even agree with eachother and who’s interpretation can change on a whim with a new pope.

    Have. You. Read. The. Text?

    Not exactly set in stone on top of a mountain is it (no i dont think those are real either)

    Literally was carved into stone at one point, dipshit.

    Why are bibles still being printed, sold, and read with practically no changes?

    That is very much cherry picking because I don’t know any sensible christian who takes those literally.

    Here's what you're missing: no christian is sensible. They all believe in abusive blood magic. Dumbass.

    The people who told you that all christians take this stuff literally you already know are abusive liars.

    If a person doesn't believe in christ, they should not call themselves christian.

    Do not believe them. They dont speak for the personal experience of others.

    I don't take people at their word. I examine the evidence.

    Belief in christ is harmful. Everyone should do better.

    Stop allowing them to have a hold over you.

    STOP DEFENDING THEM.

    Do you think I "allowed" myself to be abused? No, I asked my parents not to hit me. They hit me and told me it was good for me until I had to believe it or they'd hurt me even more.

    Did I choose a christofascist regime? No, I voted against it. But I was outvoted by a population too stupid to recognize that they're acting against their own best interests. Many of them have been brainwashed by the same book as I was. The bible teaches them hatred as love, submission to authority.

    Why are you pretending these connections don't exist?

    I bet the asshole that manipulated your parents is proud of you, their work. Spewing hate and attacking others of your class instead of the capitalist iceholes and ice who are only using religion as a cover and laugh in your face for taking the bait.

    You're pretending there's one evil voice in their ears. We moved a lot and attended multiple churches. My mother even said, "it's so hard to find a good church." Yet we kept going anyway, because they think a bad church is better than no church.

    I have listened to many different men yell at us about sin, hell, and redemption through christ.

    It's a bigger problem than you realize.

    Also Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot.

    No. I will continue telling people to do better and why. That is how we save lives, not by rolling over and letting them slaughter us. If you had a spine, you'd join me. Say, wait a second... You're a complete fucking hypocrite. You should "Stop telling people what to do and how to think you are the definition of a non religious zealot". Fuck off.

    And I'm not a zealot. I'm a human being trying to help other human beings, and you're in the goddam way. Stop trying to dismiss me with bullshit labels and focus on the truth.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Your father is moron.

    Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality.

    I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic. but i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people.

    Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition.

    If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine. Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them.

    Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you.

    Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents

    Why still printed I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade.

    Zealots also claim there helping people.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (5 children)

    Your father is moron.

    Correct.

    What you don't seem to realize, and what our previous presidential election has proved, is that the United States is a nation of morons by design.

    Stop changing the context to something that is not ground in reality.

    What do you mean? You're the one doing that by insisting spirituality is a real thing.

    I am not the embodiment of magical thinking. I don’t believe in magic.

    You do. You believe in something "larger" than you, whatever that means, because it feels good, not because there is any evidence for it.

    i am getting convinced that you do because you keep citing some old book like it has magic powers over people.

    It has influence over people. Reading and writing is not magic, but it does affect our minds. You're a dipshit for pretending otherwise.

    Your arguing against personal experiences of conciousness there is no definition.

    What a stupid thing to say.

    Consciousness: "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings"

    If you want everyone to have the same thoughts and perspectives then your advocating FOR doctorine.

    No, you're the one making it personal.

    I want everyone, myself included, to align our beliefs as closely to reality as possible. That is how we make the best choices. That is how we avoid the needless suffering and death caused by magical thinking.

    Again you are closer to those you hate then you think. You resemble them.

    Stop ignoring the crucial difference: there is evidence for my claims.

    I was violently brainwashed from a young age by southern baptists. That doesn't just go away, they broke a human being. I am trying to use my broken pieces to do some good.

    Oh your calling for my death now. How mature of you.

    You started it. Quit defending death cults.

    Maybe You Should stop Reading The Stupid Text That Poisoned Your parents

    OTHER PEOPLE ARE READING IT AND USING IT AS JUSTIFICATION TO KILL US ALL, DUMBASS.

    I assume to sell to american psychos. I haven’t actually seen a physical bible in at least a decade.

    It's everywhere.

    In 2024, Bible sales in the United States alone reached a 21-year high, with 19 million units sold, marking a 12% increase from the previous year. This surge is part of a broader trend where Bible sales have more than doubled since 2019 and have consistently grown by double digits since 2021.

    This growth is not limited to the U.S. In the United Kingdom, Bible sales in 2025 were 134% higher than the first tracked year in 2008. Globally, Bibles are estimated to have sold between 5 to 7 billion copies in over 700 languages, cementing their status as the best-selling book of all time.

    https://www.accio.com/business/total-number-of-best-selling-bibles-worldwide

    China prints over 100 million Bibles yearly

    India saw 20 million Bibles distributed/sold in 2022

    https://wifitalents.com/bible-sales-statistics/

    Zealots also claim there helping people.

    Which is why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss and focus on the arguments. The closer we all get to reality, the better off we all are. Most religions take people farther from reality, everyone is incentivized to choose whatever flavor of lie feels right to them. It's a source of endless division, and it threatens all life because all life exists in reality.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t.

    How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself.

    I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic.

    And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same. I kinda ran out of taboo words to further explain this part to you so i am gonna stop trying.

    No, you're the one making it personal.

    I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning, it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend.

    why I said to quit trying to label and dismiss

    The irony is lost on you. Thats not even a question.

    Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    You keep attacking me for believing in some form of magic, which i don’t.

    You do, by your own admission.

    How i personally identify my own conciousness experiences is just that. I can define things my own way for myself.

    Tell us more about your spirituality.

    I was trying to make an example of non religious conciousness experience which can use similar philosophies critically without believe in magic.

    But it is belief in magic.

    And obviously it failed because you attack it just the same.

    Because it's the same baseless magical thinking.

    What evidence do you have that something "larger" than you exists?

    No, you're the one making it personal.

    No, I am criticizing beliefs. Christianity is a death cult. You took that so personally, you still won't shut up about it.

    I have been defending the personal experience of others since the beginning

    The personal experiences that compel them to hurt others. That's attacking, not defending.

    it was a mistake to be openhearted about my own but I really am trying to be your friend.

    If that is true, stop defending death cults. As I said, I cannot be friends with liars. I've made that mistake before. It nearly killed me.

    The irony is lost on you.

    Your false equivalences are fucking disgusting. Your brain doesn't work.

    Or you are a troll/ai in which case well, i really hope not.

    Sure, I'm paying every month to host videos I made about my real life for the lols. Do you think I faked my little brother threatening mass violence? Search Christopher Stowe San Antonio yourself, see what you find.

    No, I'm putting myself out there, warts and all, on the off-chance it helps even one person avoid what I suffered.

    You can lie about me, but you can't erase me, and FUCK YOURSELF TO DEATH for trying.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    Spiritual = \ = magic.

    If i believed in magic i would say so.

    See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless

    Fuck myself to death? Now who is preaching a death cult?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    The client I'm using (Raccoon) allows me to reply to direct messages, but I am unsure how to send one, so I am commenting here.

    In addition to my SnoopSqueak website, channel, and streams, I do a weekly stream every Friday specifically about atheism and religious beliefs. I'm starting one now, they tend to go for 6+ hours. You're welcome to come chat if you like. I don't monetize my videos, I encourage the use of ad blockers.

    It might be easier for us to have a civil discussion when it's not purely text. I think I can keep my cool on camera.

    Links if you are interested:

    https://www.twitch.tv/openatheist

    https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAtheist

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Spiritual = \ = magic.

    Explain what it is again. Last time you appealed to vague descriptions that aren't rooted in reality.

    If i believed in magic i would say so.

    Not necessarily. Due to the magical thinking, you don't realize you're engaging in magical thinking, just like my parents.

    See what i mean with if all words have the same meaning they become useless

    I'm not suggesting all words should have the seem meaning. I'm really tired of dismantling your lazy straw men.

    In fact, I would like you to use more words, words grounded in observable reality, to describe your beliefs.

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