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[–] 123 points 4 months ago (9 children)

I still remember how a colleague told me we should do X.

I was bamboozeled and baffled by it because X was literally what it said on the flask of the chemical what you shoulf not do under any circumstances.

His explanation as to why we should was, quote "I mean I know its strange, but Copilot told me it is okay and would be fine"

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  • [–] 93 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    "well, you're the expert. I'll be behind this sealed barrier while you kill yourself"

    Disclaimer: don't do this. Letting your coworkers die is morally bad, and probably illegal.

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  • [–] 67 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Even worse, it involves a lot of paperwork.

    What you do is send an official complaint straight to the legal office who will lose their shit at that

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago

    When the boss pulls this on you and you ask for it in writing only to tell them: "I'm still not going to do it but now I have a written instruction from you to do something suicidally reckless”

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  • [–] 84 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    If I wanted to know what a chatbot says, I would have asked it myself.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Hmm, you do make a fair point. Chatbots, indeed, are absolutely not velociraptors.

    ... So FAR.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    One of my coworkers who's into AI has a chatbot set to behave as they were an elder got, talk about code as incantations, etc.

    I wonder if, had he requested it be a velociraptor, he would have gotten mostly aggressive reptilian noises as a response.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    i might have been convinced that chatbots could've had some utility as sort of advanced 'rubber duck debugging', but in my humble opinion talking to an actual rubber ducky is a superior process because literal rubber duckies are not known for telling us to kill ourselves unless we've taken a truly apocalyptic quantity of hallucinogens.

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  • [–] 70 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

    A couple days ago I heard the horrifying sentence "I asked chatgpt to generate a secure password for the laptops" from someone returning a cart full of laptops they borrowed. Does your browser not have a built in password generator? Does your password manager not have a built in password generator? Could you not find a single password generator online?

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  • [–] 52 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    And of course not only is that unnecessary, but insecure since your password is immediately in the chatgpt logs

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  • [–] 38 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    And it's not even a random or strong password! LLMs can't randomly generate 'em

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  • [–] 26 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I asked ChatGPT (I use a third-party frontend, so I don't have a paid subscription. API prices mean they probably got paid like one cent for this, if that.) "Generate a list of 10 secure passwords." like 5 times and it regularly re-used the words Saffron, Comet, Marigold, Harbor, Lynx, and Cobalt multiple times across all of them, sometimes even inside the same list.

    There was also a theme of using names for animals and natural geographic/geological features.

    Oh, and for one of the passwords it genuinely just said "raven" and nothing else 😭

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  • [–] 58 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Ugh. I once heard someone say "I did a chat" as slang for "asking ChatGPT". It was a software vendor on a call regarding compatibility with our existing systems. We had concerns it wasn't. They insisted it was, because they "did a chat" and ChatGPT said it was.

    It wasn't.

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  • [+] 52 points 4 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    People seem to love being bots, half of the human internet is literally just people repeating the same shitty stuff over and over millions of times. Like half of the comments on any youtube video being "babe, wake up", "legendary refresh pull" etc.
    And people only watching, listening to, playing, eating, wearing etc. the current popular things just because they are popular, they need to be the same as everyone else and think that people who doesn't do that are weird and bad. It's truly disturbing IMO.

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  • [–] 48 points 4 months ago

    I can barely use the internet anymore. I have to filter by date to get results from before 2024. Otherwise all the results are obvious AI trash.

    When I tried to look up information about storing film negatives. Pretty obscure niche topic these days. The top pre-2024 result was from a well respected national archive, good informative page written by experts in the field.

    By contrast, the current day results were an endless sea of random websites who all by sheer coincidence decided to start writing about film archival in the year 2025.

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  • [–] 43 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

    by now, saying "i did a search" and actually having done a search and found stuff AND shared the link feels like a "good skill to have" again.

    my brother (14 y/ooooo sooooooo skibidi) uses mister gpt for all web searching which sucks big time. whenever he does use a real life search engine, hes surprised by the amount of stuff he finds by now.

    EDIT: fixed some typos...

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    It would be a "good skill to have" if they haven't actively been making search engines worse, so they can make AI look better.

    How the fuck could AskJeeves from 20 years ago work better than search engines of today?

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  • [–] 26 points 4 months ago*

    It’s not just them, it’s the SEO spam gaming the system.

    AskJeeves would be utterly horrendous today because the web of its time is no longer feasible.


    And who is the center cog of this ad-driven SEO apocalypse? Who runs basically all web advertising?

    Well… Google, of course.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    i believe search engines have been degrading prior to the LMs but might be misremembering...

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    No, I agree. One indicative moment was when Google stopped showing the "X million results found" and the results ended after 10-15 pages even when the keywords should have millions of results. This was noticed back in 2021.

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  • [–] 40 points 4 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 33 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    I work in municipal development, and we have people trying to turn in building plans designed by AI. And the AI even puts in real-looking Engineering and Architectural seals. I really don't love that I have to verify seals these days.

    Our team is made up of hyper-vigilant bureaucrats, but lots of cites have worn out people who stopped caring if it looked mostly right, and people are going to die when buildings start collapsing.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago

    AI is not trustworthy. A friend of mine literally put Warhammer 40,000's rules and codexes into an AI so we could ask it questions and use it as a fast check rules tool.

    It gets shit wrong a bunch.

    So if the fucking thing can't do a simple data-check on a 60 page document regarding a fucking boardgame, how the hell is it supposed to do 'real' things?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Is there a punishment for this? I'd think submitting ai documents is very fraudulent.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    We can deny the permit until they hire a real person, but that's what we were going to do anyway, so there's no harm in trying from the developer perspective. The building is usually being built by an LLC that's unique to that structure and will be dissolved when the property sells, so there's nobody to go after when it fails in 3 years.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Shit like this is why the corporate veil really needs to be pierceable, it's too easy for some scumlord builder to profit off of future deaths when they have shit like this to hide behind.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    The city I work for is an enclave for the mega-rich. Literally every home is millionaires (cheapest house on the market in the city is 2.5 million), and it's going through another round of gentrification, where the 1% is getting displaced by the .01% who are buying 5 million dollar homes to tear them down down and build 15 million dollar homes.

    All the properties are owned by LLCs who's membership is something like Register Agents Inc, who act as members for hundreds of thousands of LLCs for the purpose of obscuring ownership.

    It means that when they ignore our rules, we end up having to cite the contractors working on the site to stop it, because the court process of tracking down the owners by through subpoenas can take months. So then they just hire different contractors, who we then cite and it becomes a vicious cycle.

    Though we do tend to win in court in the end. We've had the court give us permission to bulldoze 25-million dollar houses built without permits, though we usually use that order as a negotiating tactic to make them fall in line instead of losing the house entirely. Also, it takes 5-10 years for those cases to resolve, which is very frustrating for the city and the neighbors.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago*

    I don't trust Ai, I still use judgements on what it gives and I skim a lot with tables and stuff because it's stuff I already know or it only scratches the surface.

    I like engaging with it and it helps me self reflect on what I already know but it gets thrown into logic loops and repeats itself and misunderstands unless you clarify.

    I attempted to go with a bike tire layout that balances performance and speed it set for me. So I purchased the tires, took it the shop I usually go to and the guy called me and asked me to come in to show me what he meant (because I'm a visual learner sometimes). Dude goes the tire is too big and I'd have to remove the use of the 8th and 9th gear and I said it's whatever and asked him to put the old tire back.

    I felt so fuckin' embarrassed I didn't mention chatgpt but that was the day I decided to 100% double check what it says to me and to use better judgement.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    New build housing has been crap for a while now. You always better off getting something built in the 1920s back when people put in some effort. These days you're lucky if the roof is fully attached.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    It goes in waves... Where I'm from, a house built in the early 70s needs to be checked for aluminum wiring, but it otherwise ok. Late 70s early 80s is good. 90s is bad, then 2000s got better. Late 10s and 20s is only shit condos.

    People avle to buy a home tend to prefer an old 80s house or a 2010 condo.

    (Note that my numbers are approximates, don't trust me for your real estate investments!)

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  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago
    [–] 45 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Don't ask chatgpt, I can tell you bullshit too and I'm beautiful

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago

    "i asked chatgpt to calculate..."

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  • [+] 19 points 4 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I asked chatGPT to fuck off

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago

    Off topic: If said in french "ChatGPT" translates back to "Cat, I farted" - you're welcome

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    You claim there is no more infuriating sentence, and yet I put this to you:

    "I asked grok"

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    For some reason, the Nazis who use Grok bother me less than clueless normies who genuinely think AI is trustworthy. The Nazis would never contribute anything of value, so them getting brainrot from an LLM isn't an issue.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    Man, this is such a naive take. The Nazis are specifically going out of their way to mainstream their beliefs and political ideas, and it's working like gangbusters. They e made massive strides in the last decade alone compared to where they were in the early teens.

    The Nazis would never contribute anything of value

    They may not contribute anything that YOU value, but they're contributing their OWN values to the culture, and until tides turn, they're currently on top and are a dominant force on culture.

    I'm really hopeful the republicans pull their head out of their Nazi asshole before they get sucked into it like it's a singularity. But they're currently goose-stepping with the jackbooted thugs, so I'm not super hopeful in the near future.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Nazis are scary, but seeing liberals stand by and do nothing is infuriating. Their weak wills in the face of the bullshit oligarchs push is how we got here in the first place. The very techbro capitalists who push AI are responsible for all of this, so normies going along with it drives me up a wall. I gave up on Republicans long ago and hold out no hope that they'll do the right thing, but I've only recently lost hope in liberals defending the things they claimed to care about.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    Oh, don't get me wrong, I fucking hate how many people are just watching shit burn. But that's not a reason to give in and let the fires get bigger, that's no better than the people who stand by and do nothing.

    So many on here want to burn the system down, regardless of the people who will be caught in the fire be they assume their side will come out on top in the end. And if we can learn anything from history, it's most likely not going to be the people who want what's best for the citizens running the show if that happens.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I'm increasingly seeing this used as a disclaimer, as in, "don't trust what I'm about to say; I went with the source that's 90% useless because when I Googled it the search results were 100% useless".

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    LLM promoting skills are becoming the new google research skills. My nursing school taught me how to google and look for the CDC page or the drug monograph or the manufacturers YouTube account. Now we're having to learn to ask the llm to fuzzy match the most likely relevant sources and follow the links to fact check from there. Wasteful sure but we're losing google as fast as it came in.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    I always keep a few stories at the ready about ai fuckups to educate the masses. Do your part everyone 🫡

    Depending on who you’re talking to:

    -ai gets shit wrong all the time, is a yes-clanker, …

    -ai will delete your shit unprompted

    -ai needs to be trained endlessly as it disintegrates endlessly

    -ai is troublesome in influencing populations

    And if they’re up for it tell em about the lovely people running the shitshow. The human rights violations,…

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago*

    I worked with a guy who was arguing with me about something and I said, "I'm not sure that's correct." He said, "I asked chatgpt and it told me that." I told him, "yeah, I figured, and I asked chatgpt and it told me the opposite" and showed him the screen.

    Like sure it can be useful but don't use it as your one source of truth...

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    I've started encountering the occasional "I had ChatGPT summarize the issue for us" (Almost invariably three pages of nothing that could remotely be considered a summary) at work, and my reflex has been to nope the fuck out and move on to a different ticket. No faster way to move yourself to the bottom of my queue. Have fun getting ChatGPT to fix it. I want to work with humans, not their weird little emotional support sock puppets.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago

    When I tell someone in leadership that something’s a stupid fucking idea and they say they had a long conversation with a bot about it therefore my objection is irrelevant.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    What about "I asked grok..."?

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago

    High up people at my job think this is acceptable behavior to vomit text at people with this.

    I hate it….

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Being accused of using ChatGPT for the crime of knowing how to properly use em dashes is far more infuriating.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Shit, sometimes MS Word will autocorrect them in, and then I have to remove them just so it doesn't look like AI.

    But also people using the "This is AI" hand wave for things they don't like. My sister in law is super guilty of this. I was showing my daughter some old-ass internet cartoons and my SIL was like "Ew you're showing your daughter this AI slop?" and I'm like "This is a YouTube video of a flash cartoon from like 15+ years ago" and she'll come back with "No, look at the animation, it's all weird, it's definitely AI" and it's like "Yo... AI did not exist when this was made. It's a jank ass flash video ported over to YouTube, that's why it looks weird"

    If you're going to hate AI, at least be able to detect it.

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  • [–] 36 points 4 months ago* (10 children)

    Eh.

    It’s in the same ballpark as “my buddy said this while we were high” or “my uncle posted this on Facebook” or “I saw this YouTube video…”

    It turns out people, on average, have horrible information hygiene and little incentive to consider this. ChatGPT just made Facebook Uncle Facts more personalized and accessible, unfortunately.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    "I googled"

    Anything that isn't on the first page of google might as well be lost to time.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    At least your are sifting through different results and picked something through your own when "you googled", it actually included a hint of what you were thinking as you click through links looking for what you are trying to find.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I'm sifting through the results given to me by automat, not that different from AI.

    I either ask uncle google's AI, or I ask sources he used for the same lie.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    If you can't do proper research and you'd rather handicap your own ability to, that's on you. There's a fundamental difference between LLMs feeding people an answer, and a traditional Google search.

    One is a definitive "this is the answer" and the other is a list of results YOU are meant to sift through. Not understanding that is on you.

    Reading multiple sources will ALWAYS be better than a crap LLM summary.

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