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[–] 223 points 4 months ago (42 children)

C'mon, us linux users do the inverse all the time...

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  • [–] 121 points 4 months ago (14 children)

    Literally any time Windows is mentioned

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  • [–] 82 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    no we don't also windows is stupid you should install gentoo

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  • [–] 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    (Also applies to "Lemmy users" on the top and "Reddit users" on the bottom)

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  • [–] 44 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    That's not true. Linux users do this waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than Microslop users. Microslop has billions of users, but fewer than 20 fanboys, worldwide.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    The thing is - most windows user don't even know Linux exists...

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Used and supported Windows for over 30 years at this point. I've NEVER been a fan, and started looking into Linux back in '99. It wasn't ready back then, but two decades later and it seems like Linux does everything except anti-cheat, which I have no use for, better than Windows ever did.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    ... I worked for Microsoft.

    ... during the time they rolled out Win8, by dogfooding it through every employee and contractor.

    I don't know anyone that hates Microsoft and Windows more than I do.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    '98 was a marginal improvement over '95 at least.

    Windows 7 with all the SPs was peak Windows

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago*

    Agreed, peaked at 7.

    And its been literally all downhill from there.

    I actually could not believe what was happening, when they rolled out 8 on us.

    "We've removed... the windows... from Windows."

    Saying that outloud made my boss very angry.

    We spent a month pleading to let us go back to 7, to use some kind of standard, non tablet UI.

    For a month they told is that didn't exist in 8, the UI was all totally new and redesigned from the ground up, and no we can't go back to 7.

    But, they were lying, of course. There was a sequence you could do to override the new UI that had indeed been slapdashed over 7's UI, to go back to 7's UI.

    (Where 7's UI is modified XP UI, which is modified 98 UI... etc)

    We figured it out, they'd patch it to not work, some other email chain would figure out some other override, they'd patch that out.

    After about a month of that they actually admitted that the 7 UI was indeed still there and was not just some kind of emergency fall back mode.

    Some months later, 8.1 is basically just them making the 7 UI mode fully work.

    Again, I literally could not believe how stupid this all was, to the point of sometimes literally dissociating.

    Or maybe Windows 8 was my personal Vietnam, or something, lol.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I have never gone to look for a windows community, is there one?

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  • [–] 36 points 4 months ago

    My favorite thing is going onto the community for a game that explicitly supports linux with a problem just to have a bunch of replies to install windows from random chuds.

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    The threadiverse is not a Linux stall.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago

    The joke is that 99% of the other stalls are also Linux lmao

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I genuinely have never seen this take. Sometimes someone shares something like "I tried it out and it wasn't quite for me", and that's about as vitriolic as it get. And even that's rare.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I see you have not been graced by madthumbs and the linuxsucks community. It's so hilariously stupid I've got it blocked so I can't link, but that should be enough to find it if you like.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Ha, I called out a few mistruths they were spreading, in a constructive way and got blocked too. Almost all comments there are removed, and the user was griping about downvotes. Somebody suggested his ex left him for a Linux dev and so now he hates Linux with a passion out of spite.

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  • [–] 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    This comic is about LGBTQI+

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    A fanatic will change neither their mind nor the subject

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  • [–] 31 points 4 months ago (20 children)

    Nah, as a Windows user on the topic of Linux here in the fediverse I'll be totally honest: I mostly just feel like I'm looking at and a bit wishing I was smart and savvy and motivated enough to be one of the cool kids, but after my last disastrous attempt at switching (because apparently my video card just isn't supported I guess? whatever, I'm not looking for tech support here) I'm just happy enough to be at the cool punk party instead of predatory frat party (reddit, twitter, take your pick of corporate shithole) where I'm likely to get roofied.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago

    I put off the switch for ages due to similar reasons, tried once that failed horribly. Later had a motherboard failure and Microsoft showed their whole arse. Reactivated the dual boot, channeled my inner old woman energy, solved the video issue and have been happily tinkering with the smaller issues as they come up. Still playing whack a mole, but now I'm getting things the way I want them, instead of disabling things I'm being told I want by some corporate nutcase.

    And hilariously, I am spending less time maintaining Linux than I did for Windows.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    I was prepared to go through hell when I switched recently, since Windows was making me so mad. Everyone told me my graphics card wouldn’t work, gaming would be hard, etc. Then Mint just worked. 🤷

    I did have to troubleshoot why my speakers were muted on startup, but it was worth it. Oh, and volume up defaults to 5% instead of the standard 2%, that took some fixing. Games just work, though.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    PC or laptop? And what video card?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    PC, ASRock Z370 Taichi mb with NVidia GTX 1080TI card and 32GB RAM.

    Last time I tried install disastrously Lemmy Linux wizards told me that card isnt supported for some reason 🤷

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    I had a much older nvidia card and just had to install the older drivers.

    It was with OpenSUSE which has a repo maintained by NVidia directly, and they had generation drivers G03 , G04, G05 etc.

    But I did find that while distro hopping that no all linuxes are equal for hardware support. I had a laptop with a bios bug that would kill Debian based installs, but work fine with fedora or opensuse, and also fine with nixOS. Those distros acknowledge the bug and did a work around.

    So if you have interest again, its worth shopping around sometimes.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Mint gets tossed around because it's pretty forgiving. It just shits me i have to rewrite udev for usb key removal. Its the 21st fucking century, no one "dismounts" usb any more

    Kubuntu is another one that just works. Hubs hasn't has problems and he's definitely not hardware wired

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    +1 for Kubuntu just working. I put my grandpa on it and I actually had someone I support for IT install it on their personal computer because they were getting sick and tired of windows.

    There is some fuckery I'm not a fan of, but the user will probably just be oblivious+happy it just works.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    When I muster up the courage again, Mint is probably the distro I'll try. I'd tried Pop!_OS because I'd read that it's very superficially Windows-like as an easing in method, but I think the larger install base of Mint (and thus docs, support, etc) makes it the more appealing choice next go round, if ever that day comes.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I got thrown in the deep end professionally with slackware years ago and i personally think pop is satans taint, so don't feel bad.

    Been playing with mint on media server builds, works pretty well (apart from aforementioned usb caching), just adjusting to the flatpak sandboxing. Also works well with retroarch and my 8bitdos but i haven't fired up the n64 emu yet.

    Daily driver is kubuntu, the biggest issue with both is if you have a mixed os system - the ol "won't network browse or auth as guest on a win machine share" unless you use cifs.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    This feels like a very friendly and supporting comment, so I appreciate it, but I'm not gonna lie, about half of what you said may as well be Korean to me it's so unfamiliar.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    All G :)

    Flatpaks is a software control architecture. So instead of having files and executables able to talk to each other across the OS all willy nilly they're kept in little pens. This means the file locations change from what you automatically go to look for

    8bitdos are retro feel wireless controllers, retroarch is an emulation software package for playing old console games on a pc. I haven't tested how the nintendo 64 emulator (notoriously hardcore) runs on mint yet.

    Daily driver is my default go to pc to use. I run kubuntu on that. If you have windows-based servers or pcs that you're gonna mix with linux, kubuntu and mint have issues browsing to windows file shares with their default network browsers. You need to use what's called "cifs" instead, plenty of documentation if you need to poke about.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    8bitdos are retro feel wireless controllers, retroarch is an emulation software package for playing old console games on a pc. I haven’t tested how the nintendo 64 emulator (notoriously hardcore) runs on mint yet.

    This was the part I knew 😜 On my 3rd 8bitdo controller I think and been emulating games forever. The rest was legitimately foreign to me though, thank you

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    I fucking love 8bitdos. We have some for the retroarch, and then ones for legitimate systems - the SNES and the Sega Megadrive. I'm just salty I was never able to get my hands on their n64 controllers before they got slapped with copyright.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    I think that the motivation is the real key point here.

    You could be the best technical person but if you are not motivated, it won't happen. And that's fine. When the motivation will be there, Linux nerds will be there to help you.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Trying to switch was your problem. Linux is not like Windows or Apple. There's no marketing department trying to manipulate any brand loyalty. It's just a tool, and one that has been developed organically to fit in your life as much as you want it. Unlike Windows, Linux does not try to take over your whole computer, it can easily coexist with other systems in a variety of ways whether dual-booting, vms, or live distros.

    I like to keep a distro on a usb stick ready wherever I go, in case I ever have to use somebody else's computer, for instance.

    Once accustomed to using an operating system that's actually trustworthy, any time spent with the other big two feels like being violated. Windows is best kept minimized and quarantined.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    It's Ok. You don't need to like Linux. (Evil villain accent slips out)-- You vill use Linux! Und you vill like it! Even if you don't like it. Ooops! Sorry! That just slipped out somehow.

    An OS is a tool no more, nothing less. Use what you like and like what you use! And if you decide to try Linux again some day in the future, great! If not, that's great also!

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    This is some stoptalkingaboutpancakes-tier farfetchery

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    The comic feels like a preemptive "no u"

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago*

    At this point, it’s just insecurity about stuff not working right on Windows now.


    To that point:

    At the moment, on my dual boot desktop, hardware acceleration and video playback are busted in Chromium browsers on Windows. But it works perfectly fine in Wayland linux. And I don’t really know why.

    This is fascinating to me, as the situation was reversed about a year ago.

    And if I were Windows only, without years of experience under the belt to make Linux seem less daunting, I’d be feeling anxious about that.

    Not that I’m a Linux fanboy: Windows is just better for some specific things. But still, I’m not going to either OS booth to complain.

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