Mozilla should be scrutinized, even if Firefox is currently the best option.

I think the only thing keeping them inline is loud community backlash everytime they make one of those misssteps.

They removed the paw, they are worse than Chrome! I'm going to use an alternative version that cannot exist without the main project to teach them a lesson!

Alternatives being even worse doesn't make firefox good, or invalidate any objective criticism against it.

They'll probably hold to it for that exact product. If they rebrand it and add it back, that's no longer the same thing you paid for ;)

Totally off topic, but I drink at a bar called Spaghetti Western!
Hillsboro, OR.

Well, we'll toss him back in if he likes it so much. Maybe sell off the ladder if he really wants to stay :)

Adds features and asks for a payment to access the toggle buttons

hahahahahaha

Rude. But not inaccurate. Brave pretends to be better than Chrome and Google, but also Mozilla and Firefox at the same time, though Firefox has always done it better and has never contributed to the chromium monopoly. Greed over diversification of the Web and competition between browser engines to effect real change. The least Brave could do is make their own engine.

when do you think brave will overtake firefox in share worldwide?

1 year, 2?

lol

To be fair.....most of the general population are indeed suckers.

I don't use Brave, but one correction. From the article: "Brave sells Origin to strip added features—a $60 one-time fee (free on Linux). "

Brave thinks its Windows and OSX users are suckers, not its Linux users apparently.

Evidence points to them being suckers, yes.

I think so, but it's spread among different menus and flags. Plus if even if you disable it, it's still there, one of the origin options sounds like it has it fully removed from the code.

It's true, if you don't want to spend 5 minutes customizing your browser to your needs you can use GitHub script that disables all of the features for you. But I don't see how feature like reader isn't handy, it often lets you bypass paywalls for free.

No, but brave "shields", aka pre installed but shittier unlock origin, can sometimes break plex or other sites that require certain things that could look like trackers

I don't have a strong opinion on brave, but here's some reasons I can think of:

• cryptocoin shit
• based on chromium (so using this instead of firefox, for example, increases google's hegemony -- and this is true: even though chromium is open source, google completely controls its direction)
• CEO is a homophobe
• scammy business practices like inserting affiliate codes in urls

And this is just the stuff that I know from the top of my head. I don't particularly care about this topic, so I'm sure there's more. Although, having written all this out, I can sense that my opinion of Brave has worsened significantly.

It's sold as a privacy-focused browser but it doesn't actually have a good track record or features for it. The company has made several questionable choices.

Firefox or fork of choice plus a couple of extensions

Firefox, or its fork Librewolf if you really value privacy.

Zen is just preselected no telemetry Firefox, also bleeding edge with Firefox updates

Brave is fine ish but they have issues, and a lot of them, which they usually fix within 24 hours but they've had a track record of like 8-10 issues per year, so just under once a month.

Don't downvote me to hell cause it's a reddit link, sorry, this is the most concise list I know of: https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/s/AErPH6iMl0

They hate the politics of one of the developers.

Edit: wtf. I've gotten downvoted to oblivion in the past for simply mentioning that Brave search has its own search index. Now I try to pass along the message of those downvoters and I get downvoted again.

use vivaldi if you want a chromium browser. its very customizable