• Brave sells Origin to strip added features—a $60 one-time fee (free on Linux).
  • Origin removes email aliases, Leo AI, VPN, Wallet, Speedreader, and more via a toggleable panel or standalone client.
  • You can buy Origin on Brave Premium or enable the panel at brave://settings/system.

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[–] 27 points 5 months ago

Who is the target audience for this? Without those features isn't Brave just like any other Chromium browser?

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  • [–] 65 points 5 months ago (18 children)

    Funny - are there any other known instances in the history of software where you have to pay extra to remove actual features?

    Also, don't use Brave.

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  • [+] -62 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (17 children)

    I'll keep using it. It's the best browser out there, FF is terrible and is managed by a shitty, corrupt company which deserves to disappear.

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  • [–] 36 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    This has to be a joke right…

    Like I can’t imagine any way this could be serious, cause brave literally inserted referral codes to steal money from creators. They also inject ads. Like… you have to be making a joke. There’s no way you’re serious.

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  • [+] -33 points 5 months ago* (6 children)

    The only joke here is the crap browser that FF is. Bye.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Okey bye IE bot. Hope to see ya in a few year when Edge finally reach you... So the IE dumb defender didn't disappear, they started using brave... This explain so much about how a company with this kind of action against the consumer can survive. They target the old IE fan boy with an humiliation kink.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    He was so upset he threw a fit and downvoted anyone who didn't parrot his ideals

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Not sure if I should block these users to reduce the ragebait or leave them to enjoy the comedy.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (8 children)

    Check out Helium. It’s what Brave was supposed to be. (And it uses Chromium.)

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    It being free on Linux is pretty interesting.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Isn’t that just helium browser

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    In the sense that they are both Chromium? In that case it's just Vivaldi as well.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    a couple minutes to click through vivaldi's settings will turn off all the annoying stuff (similar to firefox, but firefox is quicker to 'set up'). i've never seen it re-enable things like microsoft loves to do.

    vivaldi is what i use for a chromium-based browser when i need to check web client 'compatibility'; and i like that you can customize the toolbar (like you can in firefox).. i move the back-forward stuff to the right side of the address box, and add the separate search box (so suggestions can be enabled in it but off for searches in address bar).

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Is Brave not FOSS? How come nobody has already made a debloated fork of the browser?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    i actually work in software security.

    grapheneos has talked about integrating shields into vanadium (and by extension, trivalent) which i would love. shields imo is a very top notch implementation of an ad blocker and is better than ublock origin in every way due to how it blocks in ram with rust rather than in userspace like ublock. brave does pretty well at integrating many things into the browser so that the user isnt tempted to install extensions, which reduces attack surface. i consider email aliases, automatic darkmode (can be enabled via chrome flags) on sites, and a built in adblocker (not an extension, it must also work on videos) to be critical for user experience, and ideally via no extensions. currently only brave offers each of these stock, which is very unfortunate. plus it has better sandboxing, there are many exploits to harvest fingerprints on many corporate sites that circumvent sandboxing in firefox and read other tab data. basically, the only options are brave with minimal changes, mullvad browser with no changes, or tor browser with no changes, and you should not open more than one tab on any firefox browser. the last two are not great for usability every day due to no automatic darkmode, among other features.

    i think the best way for brave to improve would be maybe to include something like sponsorblock in the browser as well and then work hard to cut off providing extensions altogether, as extensions are a main source of fingerprints becoming unique and data leaks. and of course remove all the crypto garbage.

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago

    you should use firefox and turn off the 'ai' crap (one toggle) if you don't want it. a few more clicks turns off the 'sponsored' stuff and 'telemetry'. if that's too much for you, then librewolf. zen, perhaps, if you want something a lil' different.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Most of those features are opt-in anyway, so there's really little to "remove". That's just a way for them to fund the development without resorting to deals with Google and the likes or selling users's data.

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  • [–] 26 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Why the fuck would they need to fund development when they're funded by the antichrist himself?

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  • [–] 27 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I never thought I'd meet a homophobe defender brave enough to venture outside their own little pocket fascist instance of lemmy.

    Here are some facts:

    1. That link does not 'debunk' the fact that Brave was funded, in part, by Peter Thiel. It just downplays it.

    2. Brave's funding was a crypto scam, and selling the idea of 'selling out to advertisers' to investors.

    3. They are so incredibly 'committed to privacy' that they keep selling user data and illegally redirecting users.

    No, to answer your whataboutism, I'm not fine with the Mozilla board having Google members among others on it. I really hate that they are spending most of their money on not web browser development, and have spent most of their money in the last two years that was ear marked for browser development on AI features the majority of users turn off. But that's still better than supporting Brenden Eich.

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  • [+] -6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    On your point 3 there was a 1 time issue back in 2020 about redirect links from 1 specific site (binance.us). I know a lot of companies claim malicious things were a bug, but considering it only happened once, was restricted to one site, was fixed almost immediately after it was discovered, and had to do with auto fill settings in the address bar from people who had already used brave's affiliate links; it really does seem more like a bug. Why do you insinuate that they "keep" doing something when there is only this one instance?

    Also no where in that link does it mention "selling user data" so that part seems to have come straight from you ass.

    I'd address the other points and why they are pretty much meaningless when you dig into the actual stories, but I dont have the time, and trying to explain the reality of brave to Lemmy users is like trying to explain to a dog why they can't just eat all the food all the time.

    But I did want to specifically call out point 3 because you literally just made shit up and a primal part of my brain can not stand dirty fucking liars who lie because they don't have any actual arguments.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    You lose all credibility outside of your weird little circles when you use the word "FUD".

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