$70,000 is a lot more than the median individual income. You can probably afford to spend a bit on lunch if you're single and making that amount.
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When he was a junior asshole, that $28 meal would cost $9.
I personally think food inflation has rather exceeded the median rate so it’s probably even less than that; my lived experience says that in 2019 I could get a meal for $15-20 and now it’s $25-30, but the inflation calculator disagrees.
When he was in his twenties, $5 would have been an indulgent lunch, and you'd probably still receive some change
Was gonna say it’s more an indictment on rising food costs than individual choices.
Also the “poor people are poor because they buy slightly nice things” is such a shit argument.
It's way less than that. In 2013, you could still get a $2 meal deal from Taco Bell that came with a burrito, bag of Doritos, and a drink. That's $2.80 in today's money. Then, I remember some dinner prices from places my parents took me when I was a kid. They're boomers so they love going to all you can eat buffets. Using that calculator, the adult price for an all you can eat pizza buffet at a CiCi's in 2000 would be $5.69 in today's money. In 2005, the adult dinner price for an all you can eat buffet at Furr's Cafeteria would be $8.39 in today's money. Even in 2013, there was an AYCE Chinese buffet that would be $7 in today's money. Those are dinner prices. And if you didn't want to eat like a boomer, there were plenty of cheaper options. But just to put things into perspective a lot of those same things don't cost $6-9 today. They cost $20+.
Avocado toast all over again. They do this to every generation.
Hands up who isn't making anywhere near 70k.
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I wasn't for most of my life until I finally was and then I became disabled shortly thereafter, prompting the government to decide that I should live on sub-poverty wages which aren't enough to feed myself because it's easier and cheaper for them if I just die.
Detached from reality old dude strikes again. It's easy enough for a single meal at a fast food drive through to be $15 these days.
He's right, people should stop spending $28 on lunch and just eat the rich instead.
Well, these same assholes then turn around and blame people when they stop spending money on shit like this, as it starts to affect their profits.
"Millenials are killing the food industry!!!"
Look at all the judgement that gets cast in the media for gen Z for not drinking alcohol as much as every other generation.
It's wild that these elites are shitting on people spending $27 on a meal...
It's not 2017, that doesn't buy you much of a meal.
The cheapest food in my town I can think of is still a solid $8-9. And that is for a very unappetizing sandwich. A small upgrade to a chain "Jersey Mike's Sub" puts you back $11.15 before tax - no drink, no chips.
Around me, the only meal you can get for under $10 is banh mi. I'm very grateful for those reasonable prices, but I'm also not exaggerating.
My work recently treated my group of coworkers to subs, but I don't eat meat and didn't have any. Instead, my manager said she'd reimburse me, and broke down the price of the sandwiches (which everyone else split) to calculate $7 per person. So I was given $7 Doordash credit.
$7. On Doordash. The fuck am I supposed to do with that?
I guess because you use the word 'town' that a shitty chain sub might actually be a true upgrade, but for anyone in even a smallish city, look around for little hole in the wall independent restaurants because I guarantee you can get much better food for much cheaper than the shit you'll get at chain restaurants. Off the top of my head I can think of at least 5 sub shops and delis in my area that will give you a much bigger better sandwich than subway, for a little over half the price. Then there's shawarma shops, Chinese take ours that will fill up the take out container so full that it's too much to eat in a sitting, burger places where you can sit down and have a burger and a beer for the price of a McDonald's meal and it'll be twice the size, pizza joints with walk in specials where you can get a small pizza for the price of a slice at pizza-pizza, Caribbean restaurants where there isn't even a fast food alternative, fucking lots of places. Don't settle for some bullshit just because it's familiar.
Just don’t eat takeout/restaurant food then. Here in canada you can easily make meals for less than 5$ per portion, much less if you don’t eat meat.
Hell just buying precooked food at the grocery store costs ~7$ for a high-quality meal. I can’t imagine anyone paying 27$ for a regular meal.
Bruh, I wish I made $70,000/yr. It was what I went to college for after all only for the entire world to change after 4 years, now I can't afford myself and in debt.
Regardless, this is ignoring the fact that inflation has increased the cost of groceries in general, not just lunch. Even though Trump ran on it, apparently inflation never actually happened now that he's in office. The collective amnesia from the right when it benefits them is just infuriating
What did you study
Computer Science
What's the struggle finding a good job?
I just got rejected after 8 rounds of interviews with 5 years and management experience in my field. It is not a good time to be job searching in tech.
8 rounds????? In a row??
Welcome to tech. It's pretty fucking ridiculous.
(For example, I just got a position where the primary duty is to support an information system I designed and built for them and I still had to do 3 rounds of interview)
We've only done multiple rounds of interviews for very impressive candidates that are already a big yes, where they're being shown to progressively higher ranking staff as a "wow you gotta meet this person"
This is a big tech company
What were the three rounds for? Did the interviewers see it as a farce?
They were a technical, team interview and management interview, with another team scheduled after that. Only person who was open about feeling it was a waste of time was the director in the third interview, who stopped it in the middle of an intermitable HR ramble and offered me the job (presumably so she wouldn't have to keep wasting her time sitting thru them).
It was extra ridiculous since the position was explicitly written for me and I am the only person alive who is qualified (given I built the system...), and they still put everyone through all that bullshit process-wank for what was an inevitable outcome. Ugh.
What a shit show, hope you get well compensated for being the only qualified person alive
Oh yeah, the last person in the position karked it (lead dev on their side) and only then did they notice they hadn't bus-proofed any of their data intake/processing/warehousing. But credit where it's due, they aren't an AI-heavy shop and they're being pretty attentive about fixing it after that wakeup call. Upside contractor wages, downside ugh it's so fucking corporate
Trust me, I've tried since graduating in 2024 to get a job within the field I studied. There's a lot of CS jobs, but absolutely none for a entry level position. I've long given up for now, especially since a recession might finally hit the second I actually get a good job and then I'd be completely unemployed. Maybe I'll use what I studied in the future but it doesn't look like it for now.
Before your objection that I should've gotten an internship during college as well to get actual work experience rather than just doing really well in my classes, I tried. I used to spend just as much time trying to get an internship than actually studying only for me to never get any kind of response let alone a fucking interview. That's the depressing part, I saw this coming, tried my best to avoid it, only for my work learning additional skills outside of class to make me more appealing and constantly applying for jobs to have all been for nothing. I spent so much time I could have been doing to build an actual social life only to get smacked with reality
I don't know much about your situation and your specific skills, but one way to get experience in many CS jobs is doing work on a FOSS project or starting your own. At least it would help keeping your skills sharp and updated. But i know that this takes a lot of effort and it's unpaid work, which might not be possible if you actually have to do something to pay the rent.
I've considered developing my own FOSS application. If I were to ever do one, it would be focused on being something that Linux Mobile or Ubuntu Touch doesn't already have since they don't have much support yet. Thought about making some kind of Linux application in general, but any idea I came up with either has already been or definitely couldn't be maintained long term by just one person.
I do work full time already, but switching from Android to either Droidian or Ubuntu Touch after the great lockdown will probably make me want to make the experience on them better anyway. So yeah, definitely been throwing around the idea of getting involved in the FOSS community, but don't want to contribute to an already existing project since I'm not THAT confident in my programming skills just yet.
Like the other commenter said, do you have any projects you've been working on that could showcase your skills or add some weight to your resume? Are you applying for software engineering roles? Is the city you're applying in unfit for tech?
I haven't been actively applying as of recently, but I have done plenty in the past 2 years. The state I currently live in perhaps might no longer be fit for tech, not entirely sure anymore, but I was applying for jobs way outside of my home state as well since I'd be willing to move pretty far for an opportunity. I am considering working on a project in the future within the FOSS community
Oh no! Another asshole billionaire who is out of touch with reality. Whatever will we do?

Fuck, I wish I was making 70k a year how do I live in this fantasy world?
Why is he wearing 2 watches?
2 tell time
c/DadJokes is 👉 that way
I've seen this argument from people before, with avocado toast and Starbucks and everything else, but no one seems to ask why lunch is $28 or blame the people charging $28 for lunch as part of the problem
I went to Subway last night. You know, the 5-dollar footlong place.
A footlong sub was $12 (not the meal - just the sandwich).
McDonalds is charging 8 dollars for a breakfast muffin.
My rent has gone from 800 to 2000 since Covid.
I have to fill my tank 3 times a weeks, and right now that costs 50 bucks.
On top of that, I have to help my parents out because their pension didn't account for real-world inflation and their extremely comfy retirement turned out not to be nearly enough when the grocery bill doubled.
That 73k I make does less than the 30k I made back in 2016.
now imagine you still make 30k and also most of your friends cant get jobs to begin with and still with parents in their mid 20s and also half of them are having mental breakdowns and thats the gen z experience
I get it. I am barely past living paycheck-to-paycheck having changed nothing about my lifestyle since I made half as much (using the same same rental, car, laptop, and everything), so making 30k today would be worse than making minimum wage was just a few years ago, when it was already shamefully low.
I do have a new job that pays way more, but my commute is absolute dogshit because the place I work is SUPER expensive. I work for a city where literally 100% of the households are multi-millionaires, and we have a few 11 and 12-figure residents.
Pay taxes.
I think the point here is a daily $28 lunch is 1/7th of their entire pretax income
incomes have been trailing behind inflation
Source please
In Australia ~ 4 in 21 years of wage growth was negative compared to CPI
Wait is $70,000 a year a low amount of money? That's an insane amount of money to be considered poor.
The average income is around $84,000, so if you are making less, your employer is fucking you over. The difference between your income and $84,000, is what your employer stole from you and called "Profit."
Last time I went to a food truck by my office a very basic lunch was $22. And that was before the machine assumed you should tip 18%.
Yeah did he say this recently because this is just how much lunch costs now. I'm not happy about it and in the US the tipping culture is more out of hand than ever before but this is largely because employers aren't paying fair wages. We are all basically just helping each other out, but this is just shuffling money at the bottom of the pyramid while the top pays even less.
Bro, why aren't you even meal prepping rice and beans for lunch every day, bro? Eat your porridge peasant.
You can and should push 0℅ on those unless you were waited on or report them to a local, eager authority if they do an automatic tip.
we should eat him for lunch and see what that costs
It's insulting that this guy says 70k like it's a low salary (for "kids" as he says). I make a quarter of that. I also know a lot more retired old people who never made close to that in their lifetime than ones who did make that much
And if I did make that much it would still feel insulting because I'm pretty sure most people making 70k can easily afford weekly $28 lunches...
Edit: Just saw that this motherfucker is wearing two expensive watches on the photo... absolutely repulsive person
Yeah the fact that the wages are stagnating is another thing, I'm just saying from where me and most of the people of all ages in my life are standing, 70k is a lot.
70k is 3,5k/mo after taxes in my country. Doesnt really matter where you live with that you could be paying 2500 in rent and still be loaded for the month. Look all I'm saying is this O'Leary guy is a fucking prick and most people never see 70k in their lifetime
This is exactly what is expected to happen. People complaining/arguing but not complaining/arguing about the correct issue.
70k by everyone's standards other than the top 1% is a lot of money, because we have always had to focus on surviving and can make that amount work. Life isnt going to be roses, but it will be life. It really does come down to buying power, but also priority. Back in the 70/80s buying tech (tvs, computers) was insanely expensive. Now you can pick up a 65in for like 200usd. Back in the 90s a new car was under 10k. Now a decent car bought new is 35/40k. Housing....I am not even going to touch it. I bought a 5 bedroom 2400sq ft for 89k in PA in the early 2000s, now that house on zillow is 350k. I only had it a year and I sold it for 85k after closing and everything. Prices for things have flipped for a lot of items that used to be luxury compared to necessity. That's how we can afford avocado toast because we can only afford eggs/bread/ and a single avocado.
I dont want to start a 2nd argument, and I am not confident I am getting my point across. I just feel all that are here arguing should not be arguing amongst ourselves since we are essentially in the same boat amd should be putting our efforts at the real issue.
It's giving $10 banana vibes

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