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[–] 122 points 5 months ago (16 children)

English can certainly be difficult! It can understood through tough thorough thought though throughout the learning process.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (5 children)

    Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

    A real English sentence.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah I never understood that one myself

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Unless I'm missing something it's supposed to be Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

    Bison from the city of Buffalo bully other bison from the city of Buffalo.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)
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    English is the most adaptable language in the world. England got colonised something like seven different times up until the mediaeval age. The language that came out of the end of that process is precision designed to accommodate unfamiliar words and grammar. There's no better language to put a loanword into. And it's really easy to invent new grammar for English, which is why English has the most neopronouns.

    English has sacrificed its logic and structure to grow fluidity.

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  • [–] 56 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    past tense read and toxic lead vs reading and leading if somebody doesn’t underntand

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  • [–] 53 points 5 months ago (24 children)

    Adultery is not the opposite of infantry; whimsy is not an adjective; you can live together in an apartment; and the Midwest is in the Eastern US.

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  • [–] 34 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    "flammable" and "inflammable" mean the same thing

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Why can I be overwhelmed or underwhelmed, but not perfectly adequately whelmed?

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Nobody's stopping you using "whelmed". You can just start using it whenever the opportunity arises.

    I use it occasionally, though normally not seriously, along with words where you have an "un" or "dis', but no positive equivalent, e.g. "gusting" as a positive "disgusting"

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Whelm and overwhelm are synonyms.

    The way I learned it, is that people have a tendency to emphasize, so when became overwhelmed. You see the same thing with 'good', 'great', and 'epic'meaning the same thing within certain contexts.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    'Jam' can mean a fruit preserve, to play music, a stuck door, traffic, to cram something into something else, a tense situation, or to block a radio signal. All spelled and pronounced the same.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    the Midwest is in the Eastern US.

    That actually makes sense because it's from the point of view of Europe.

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Qu'est-ce que c'est ?

    That's the ubiquitous "what's that" in French. All languages are evil to newcomers.

    You're welcome.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I would like to recommend Highly Irregular: Why Tough, Through, and Dough Don't Rhyme—And Other Oddities of the English Language.

    It's a pretty quick read and it explains exactly how the English language became such a mess. For each thing that doesn't make sense, it provides a reason that explains it. Short version: the timing of the Great Vowel Shift relative to the invention of the printing press really screwed it over. There's quite a bit more (Norman invasion in particular), but that was what codified all the badness.

    Learning the "why" of so many previously preposterous language and spelling rules was gratifying and enlightening. They're still preposterous but slightly less maddening now.

    There's also an excellent podcast interview with the author on 99% Invisible. Check it out. It made me buy the book and I definitely recommend it every time a post like this comes up.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Maybe start with the fact that not all words in use in English are English words.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    Or that people in different parts of the world say/spell words differently and we inconsistently applied it:

    Kernel and Colonel were the same rank but we took the pronunciation of the first and the spelling of the latter.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    English-language spelling reform now.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Como enemigo número uno del Inglés, this post feels validating to me.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    read deed redemption, the farm flipper spinoff.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    As someone who speaks 3 languages, I can confirm english is a weak ass language.

    It's strong point is that daily and normal speech and formal writing or speech are almost the same. Thats not the case with most languages, specially the older and more complex ones.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I kind of like how it’s ever changing and evolving, I know that sours some people’s pickles but I think it’s neat. I like how it incorporates and is built on so many other languages. I enjoyed reading a short story posted here a while ago that progressively walked backwards in time as a language and it was really neat to me. I’m an idiot though so most other languages probably do this also.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    American English has never be bashful about filing the serial numbers off a word and then claiming it as our own. It can lead, (lead/lead/led?) to confusion even among us native speakers. At least until we sort it out.

    Personally I blame the French, (for no reason other than I can), for all the ills in the English language.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    That's the indication of a healthy and alive language.

    English has the most speakers and is the scientific and professional language of the world currently. So it is the most up to date and alive one currently.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Do u happen to speak german? I’m studying it rn and it’s making me very grateful we live in an English speaking world :/

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    While german is hard and weird, but it's not far harder than english.

    I used to know german but never used it and lost the muscle.

    I speak Persian(Farsi), Arabic and English. I tried to learn Japanese and Chinese (mandarin) for a while but I just gave up.

    I'm glad we're not speaking Mandarin as our common language. It's one of the least interesting languages and objectively the hardest languages I've seen. At least Japanese has it's beauties, but I couldn't find them in Mandarin.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    Base and bass (sound the same) and bass (sounds different)

    Foundation

    Instrument /deep sound

    A Fish

    How anyone learns English is beyond me

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    At least English doesn’t have a “she” table, a “he” refrigerator, and a “neutral” lamp gender for everything.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago*

    My daughter is filled with laughter

    And you can't spell manslaughter without laughter

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    In a way I think these things are what make English a beautiful and poetic language

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    My brain got fired while reading this. 🗿

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I genuinely read that as ba-se-lin-e

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    do u mean bejslajn or baseliin?

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    I don't think anything comes as close to showcasing the extend of this pronunciation ridiculousness as the poem "The Chaos" by Gerard Nolst Trenité which is said to contain about 800 examples.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    It's phunny how fotographs phunction in filosofy.

    There is nothing more useless than ph.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Wait... how do you pronounce vaseline?

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    PONY AND FUCKING BOLOGNA!!

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    So? Eminem makes all the words in the English language rhyme so balance is restored in the world

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