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A twitter post by "cole ashe" with NileBlue's "Making the World's Purest Cookie" video on the bottom saying "everything about this video is great. he makes a cookie using like NIST reference standard flour and chocolate and molecular biology grade sucrose and it just ends up tasting like nothing. he'd also never made cookies before this so it's like watching a space alien learn to bake"

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[–] 91 points 5 months ago

HELLO FELLOW HUMANS. LET US PARTAKE IN TREAT CIRCLES.

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  • [–] 69 points 5 months ago*

    Perfect to eat together with Tom Scott's ISO standard cup of tea.

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  • [–] 41 points 5 months ago (31 children)

    I would like to watch this video

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  • [–] 75 points 5 months ago (29 children)

    Okay, I watched the video and that cookie was bound to be awful.

    • the chocolate was 100% dark, you need to add sugar and/or milk. Most chocolate chips are semi sweet.
    • was that flour even baking flour?
    • something was definitely off with that egg, there was no adhesion.
    • he mismeasured like 4 things due to spillage not tared out. Probably no real difference.
    • I’m suspicious the vanilla extract was done correctly.
    • his mixing sucked
    • an oil based cookie is going to have less flavour than butter based.
    • the actual cook was done wrong because he removed it from the oven. The stuff he saw on the top was likely due to bad mixing, the cracks due to flour. When he removed it and put it back in the vacuum oven it would have just suctioned the cookie outwards instead of rising inside.

    Plus, there was no control cookie from grandma.

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  • [–] 61 points 5 months ago (13 children)

    Hey hey hey now. You don't watch Nile Red to see him do things easily, competently, or even the right way. You watch him to turn vinyl gloves into cherry soda. 😋

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    I’ll have to watch more of his videos to assess.

    I did appreciate the energy and the sheer over engineering of it.

    I just think he can do better.

    And we need to know how the impure cookie from grandma tastes out of 10. For science.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    When it comes to chemistry he's very knowledgeable and has done some really impressive and hard to do chemical reactions. But he's studied science and chemistry and comes at everything he does from that angle. Which doesn't always work out how you might think. This being a case in point. Just like the super Red Bull video they did. Or when they created dry pelleted human Chow.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Or when they created dry pelleted human Chow.

    god, I watched that vid. When it is described on camera as pre-chewed hamburger and they can barely choke down a spoonful because of how dry it is, I was amazed they even joked about trying to actually make and sell it.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Yes lol watching them process whole burgers, a pizza, and a complete KFC meal. With chicken, corn, mashed potatoes and gravy into a liquid slurry was also a bit of an anxious horror show.

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    Not one lol. I think it was a cheeseburger straight up with no lettuce and a pepperoni pizza with no Peppers or anything like that.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    He's very iffy when it comes to safety, too. The comments section for his video about making his own liquid nitrogen is littered with experts telling him how insanely unsafe his setup is and how he's basically built and installed a ticking time bomb in his workshop.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Honestly, aint nothing I trust less than youtube comment experts. Checkout william osmans answer to the "experts" on his xray machine. (Will and Nile are friends and have a podcast together, aptly named safety third).

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Normally I'd never trust YouTube comments, but a channel where a wealthy scientist does all the weird experiments they've always wanted to do attracts a lot of other scientists. Their concerns make sense, too - the equipment he bought isn't rated for the use he's putting it to, let alone his future plans to make liquid helium.

    And pressure vessels are one of those things where you want to be absolutely certain it's safe. You don't fuck around with Delta P - failure of a pressurized (or depressurized in this case) vessel is the kind of thing that registers on local seismographs.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    To be totally fair to him, NileBlue is his second channel where he puts things he’s less proud of. At least that used to be the case, it’s been a minute since I’ve been on YouTube.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago

    Yeah, the stuff on Nile Blue is more improvised and/or insane. It's where he has an excess of "Fuck it, we'll do it live" energy. Nile Red is for when he actually knows what he's doing. When you watch Nile Red you see him actually being competent and professional.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    the thing he learned afterwards is that the reference substances sold by NIST are for like... particle size testing, or chemical analysis. they are usually sterilised so that the substance does not change over time (wrt mould and such), but that process does not take human consumption into account. that flour could have been like a decade old.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    I want to start a debate:

    Do you people use mayonnaise on the outside of your grilled cheese, or butter? Or margarine?

    Similar to this cookie I find mayo (oil based) gives too clean of a flavour, whereas the frying of the butter improves the grilled cheese with a bit more caramelization and flavour on the bread. Salted or unsalted are both preferable to me.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    I've always used butter, mainly because the idea of heating/cooking mayo weirds me out even though I know rationally that it's a perfectly valid thing to do. (Probably something to do with how it goes all translucent and gross if you leave it to dry out, whereas butter stays palatable.)

    I haven't used margarine since I moved out of my parents' house. Baby boomers might be into that fake shit, but I'm not.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Chef John’s grilled cheese man. Try that instead. Cheese caramelizes way better.

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    I have made it! It's really good. But like most grilled cheese, the ingredients are really important. Might take some trial and error to find the ideal cheese to melt outside. Sometimes I do super sharp, sometimes I do mild... I really need to try manchego.

    I'm a sucker for parm crisps and similar, so even parmesean might work, but i'd probably mix it with something so it sticks better.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I made this today (but I used pizza mozzarella ovaries of cheddar on the outside, it crisps up about the same)

    It was good, but my technique needs improving.

    The weight of the sandwich as a whole smooshed my white bread, so it was denser than I’d like.

    Would make again though.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago*

    I use mayo because my wife and two of my kids are lactose intolerant, but as long as you use a decent mayo (e.g. Dukes) it comes out pretty good. I have also found using a slight bit of seasoning (mix of salt, pepper, garlic powder, onion powder, maybe cayenne) kicks it up a notch. Sure, using salted Kerrygold butter is slightly tastier than mayo, but it isn't enough to make a big difference IMO..

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  • [–] 24 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    A chemistry teacher I had like a decade ago used to insist that being good at chemistry has a great correlation with being good at baking, because both are about following recipes. I'd say that video disproves that claim.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago
    1. Maybe good at actual synthesis but there's loads about chemistry that isn't solutions in beakers

    2. Assuming your teacher is right humans are fuzzy data points and an anecdotal counter-example does not disprove the trend.

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  • [–] 45 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah, that whole episode was a shit show.

    replacing butter with coconut oil, using dry egg powder using 100% dark cacao. making guesses on vanillin

    He under sugared it by a lot with the dark chocolate, the egg reconstitution was a guess, he didn't let it hydrate, who knows how old that flour or baking soda was.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    That's like...80% of his style if you've seen his other videos. Seems like a lot of cash into lab equipment to make goofy YouTube content. Not complaining about it, he's been entertaining for a long time now.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I've watched every last video, including his collabs with TBS, MGG and Co. Even in his latest stuff with the cheap Chinese equipment and objective project failures, he's not usually this inept. Ingredients weren't pure, they were standard. Flour was a decade old, leavener was so old it didn't work.

    Usually, he has a sound idea that fails in execution, either as a schtick or in reality.

    This one was ill-conceived as NIST isn't pure, he failed to follow the ingredients, he failed to substitute properly, for the amount of money he spent on the cookie, he got nothing right, and there was nothing interesting about the failure.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    That cookie looks like fucking shit

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    The egg needed more water, more sugar, the oil could have stood to be mixed in semi-solid the dough should have been chilled.

    For what he did, i'm kinda shocked it came out round and not completely flat.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    Cookies need love like everything does.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    Purity is a deficiency in many cases, it’s the grit that makes life savoury

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    I'm gonna do everyone here a solid and point you towards this recipe. Its made even better by replacing the chocolate with white chocolate and dried cranberries.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Not trusting anyone who says white chocolate is better than dark chocolate

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    With a dried fruit modifier, white is better than dark. The real question is: is a chocolate chip cookie better than a white chocolate cranberry, and i think that answer is yes.

    But a dark chocolate cranberry is meh at best.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    How does it stack up against Alton Brown's newly-released "Chewy 2.0" (in the second half of the video)?

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Alton brown isn't browning his butter. That's a definite win for Kenji Lopez-Alt

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Yes he is. Watch the second half of the video I linked: that's the primary difference of the "2.0" recipe.

    (The first half is just a history/recap of the standard Tollhouse recipe, and is safely skippable for our purpose.)

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago

    Dude looks like Jared from Subway

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