Valve recently raised the price on the Steam Deck, making the handheld gaming PC cost up to $949 for the 1TB OLED model. While that's a massive $300 increase over its original price, the Steam Deck is once again sold out.

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[–] 77 points 5 months ago (36 children)

I can't imagine paying $1000 to play my backlog of under $5 games.

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  • [–] 40 points 5 months ago (22 children)

    I mean...how big is that backlog and how much are you playing on the go? There's been no better device for handheld gaming, IMO, though I can see why it isn't tempting at that price.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    While the steam deck is a good device, it and every other modern handheld is designed like the switch which is more of a couch gaming experience rather theb a true portable for playing on the go

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I think the difference is that in 10 years when the steam deck is on its final legs, we can still play our games unlike most other consoles.

    It might be a spare laptop, steam machine, or something else entirely. But we will presumibly be able to play.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    True, but thats also true for every other modern gaming handheld other then the switch/switch 2 since they all run windows, linux or android

    Either way doesn't invalidate my point

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I can still play games on my 13 year old PS4, 20 year old Xbox 360, 30 year old N64, etc. What are you talking about? The PS5 is already 6 years old and shows no signs of not being able to play games.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    At least until Sony and Microsoft shutdown the servers for the consoles and they can't validate themselves anymore.

    If Valve ever stops supporting the SD and you still want to use it so some reason, then just install a new clean OS or just leave it in desktop mode and move on with life.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    3DS, please come back!! The AYN Thor is trying. It would be cool if valve built something like it. Preferably with the autostereoscopic display. I know it's a gimic and nobody uses it much, but damn is it a cool gimic.

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  • [+] -7 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    ROG Ally is measurably better in every category and cheaper

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  • [+] -11 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    You can very easily downgrade to Win10 and there's a sizable community on r/LinuxOnAlly but it's also Microsoft/XBox so what else do you expect? Still beats giving Valve 45% more money so GabeN can buy another yacht company and sell kids gamble boxes.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Set your expectations accordingly. ROG Ally is only cheaper until they have to build more with today's component prices (if they choose to). And it's not like Microsoft executives don't have yachts or sell kids gambling boxes.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    That's all fair but it just seems weird to me to say "company X jacked their prices up $300 and company Y might, therefore they're both the same." Wait until the Ally gets a price bump and reasses. As it stands today, the Deck is now a substantially worse value

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    They will jack up their prices if they sell through their stock and decide that that demand will stick around long enough to justify another batch of them at higher prices. As it stands today, it is doing your fellow Lemming a solid to point out the current price discrepancy in favor of the Ally. When both of those devices are priced for stable market conditions, my recommendation leans heavily toward Steam Deck, but we are not currently in stable market conditions.

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  • [–] -3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Tbh I can't be bothered to confirm who exactly is managing the Ally but XBox's new CEO is on a goodwill-gathering streak right now. Brought down the price of game pass and seems to want to bring people back to the brand proper. MS certainly has the capital to subsidize console costs to gain market.

    Again, all this is conjecture and came from me saying that right now, because Valve raised the price of the Steam Deck and MS hasn't done so for the Ally, the Ally is a better value. Today.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    XBox’s new CEO is on a goodwill-gathering streak right now. Brought down the price of game pass and seems to want to bring people back to the brand proper

    Oh, you sweet summer child.

    You do you. The Ally is a better value today. Good spot; pass it on until they sell out, because it currently looks like Best Buy is pricing it as a thing that's in their inventory and not selling. I would recommend that you don't trust that Xbox is going to right the wrongs of Game Pass price increases just because the removal of Call of Duty brought it down to still-higher-levels-than-it-was-in-the-very-recent-past. And definitely don't trust lip service to things the new boss is "thinking about" and "treating seriously". In a world where the next Xbox is definitely for sure just a PC that allows you to buy games from any store you like, and the Ally is that too, they're not subsidizing hardware. Neither is Valve, hence the price hike.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    If you're playing basic-ass games, an ARM/Android handheld may be a better bet anyway.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (10 children)

    Especially considering you could play something like 50k emulated games that span 4 gaming console generations on a handheld that cost $35.

    The SteamDeck is now a luxury.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    What's the best $35 handheld to get?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    at that price point, the R36S clones on Aliexpress, i got one on sale for ~€22. they play everything up to ps1/dreamcast, n64 not so much though. the romsets they come with and their metadata are really bad, and the sd card is prone to die spontaneously, so it requires some tinkering

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    they play everything up to ps1/dreamcast, n64 not so much though.

    Wait, but Dreamcast is newer than N64. Did you mean Saturn or 32X, or is N64 weirdly hard to emulate for some reason?

    the R36S clones on Aliexpress, i got one on sale for ~€22.

    Is there anything to watch out for, other than price (and maybe avoiding paying extra for a bigger SD card, if they're unreliable anyway)? Do ones from different sellers have different software? Should I worry about trying to avoid malware, or just assume I'm going to want to wipe the thing and re-flash as soon as I get it, or what?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    what i did is going for the smallest sd card, and buy a proper bigger one, then clone the "stock" card, and copy over roms and metadata from my nicely curated Batocera drive.

    it can be super tricky to get any OS that officially supports the R36S to run on the clones, so i run the OS it came with. the device isn't connected to the Internet so i don't worry too much about malware.

    dreamcast is simpler to emulate, n64 notoriously isn't, I've been struggling with this system during my Raspberry Pi 3 emulation era already. the "real" R36S apparently is a tad more powerful than the cheap knockoffs, but i can't seem to find it anymore - the closest available official one would be the RG35XX for $55

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    For $35 I'm guessing whatever on FB marketplace.

    Android phones tend to become pretty worthless after like 5 years, but are still perfectly good for emulation. Hell 10 years ago I was emulating the DS without any issues.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I want to get something with a physical D-pad and buttons off Aliexpress or whatever, but I have no idea how to sort through all the random no-name choices. The only other criteria I have is that I want it to be fully Free Software with no malware and the best value for money I can find.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Have prices stayed the same on those? Isn't valve funding arm support since their headset uses it. Maybe prices will drop and steam deck 2 will be using similar architecture to those instead.

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  • [–] 179 points 5 months ago (19 children)

    Honestly, the way shit is going, get what you can while you can. Gaming is only going to get worse and more expensive by the week.

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  • [–] 104 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    a steal if you consider tomorrow's prices

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  • [–] 106 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Im going to steal because I considered tomorrow prices

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Only if AI continues to ramp up.

    We're seeing a lot of cracks. I don't know if any bubbles are going to burst, but the hype is far less common than the frustration these days.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    On the other hand, I've seen a lot of stories of people getting addicted to the "agentic harnesses" and personally (and happily) blowing through hundreds to thousands of dollars/month. I've seen people write articles about how their $200/month subscriptions are such a good deal, lol. Companies are forcing their employees to use AI at insane costs. Nearly every software engineering job posting mentions using AI tools as a requirement. Anthropic's revenue is set to double this quarter and be its first profitable quarter (likely using a lot of accounting tricks).

    I'm really curious if this AI industry can self-perpetuate itself with stupidity and greed indefinitely as everything becomes shittier and unreliable, and civilization slowly crumbles.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Or maybe save some money because everything is going to get worse.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    This is why I went ahead and bought one last January, It’ll probably last at least 5 years(i hope), and I can pirate and emulate games much more easily than on a console to keep my entertainment budget lower. Just a year early

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago*

    I bought one at launch (not OLED though), it's still going strong. They made a really solid device and if anything breaks (which hasn't happened yet), it's easy to replace. I used GeForce now for the first time this month and it was really smooth and it's great the console doesn't heat up with it.

    That being said, I think it's too expensive now..

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  • [+] -6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    What marketing agency wrote this? Dumb fucking idea. No one in the world needs Steam Deck and no company has ever responded to more sales with lower prices. Boycott that shit

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Nobody needs any entertainment, but some people enjoy hobbies like gaming.

    no company has ever responded to more sales with lower prices

    Prices are going up rapidly thanks to AI data centers exploding demand by orders of magnitude more than retail customers. There is no end in sight to the price increases.

    If you want a gaming device, buy it sooner rather than later. That's all I am saying.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Is there not a future in which the AI bubble bursts, and we are in a glut of datacentre memory and storage with no buyers?

    There should be a cataclysmic bottoming out of the market that leads to a period of cheap, abundant parts.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago*

    Is there not a future in which the AI bubble bursts, and we are in a glut of datacentre memory and storage with no buyers?

    There is. Unfortunately, not even the chips on the memory used by data centers is compatible with consumer hardware. They use extremely high performance, expensive HBM (High Bandwidth Memory), we use DDR memory. Unless consumers start getting affordable devices that are compatible with such memory, there is not much hope of buying what has been or is in the process of being made for data centers.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    What is life without entertainment? Do you think all what life is about is to barely make ends meet while making extra profit for the billionaire class? I even got told that I don't even need healthy food, just be mindful how much I'm eating of the cheap unhealthy stuff, do some intermittent fasting, and eat apples as snack instead of sweets.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I wonder if this just means the supply was really low.

    Considering the current ebay pricing, it doesn't really make sense for any scalper to buy it unless they think it will become some weird coveted collectors item.

    Either way rip steam machine. I hope they continue to fund Proton and Lepton because it really made a massive impact for gaming on Linux.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    There are millions of 'gamers' in the usa who are well off financially, it wouldn't surprise me at all if it was a normal size shipment and people genuinely just were fiening for it

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago

    Jensen Huang bought them all because fuck you.

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I got a Steam Deck LCD 64GB for $350 and then put a 1TB SSD in it, so like $430 total. I love the SD, but it’s just not worth double that. A gaming laptop with a 4050 goes for about $800 now, so the current pricing isn’t really that good of a deal even at today’s prices.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Can you share a link of that laptop? My sister in law needs a new gaming laptop but everything I'm finding is waaaaay more like expensive than that. Granted, she's doesn't live in the US so whatever retail you send me won't work but if the laptop is cheap the same brand/model would probably be cheaper there.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago

    "Superyachts aren't expensive, Gaben owns several"

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  • [–] 39 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Did it sell out to actual individuals or did scalpers buy up a bunch?

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  • [–] 24 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I’m not a scalper so idk what is normal, but I wouldn’t think it would be smart to buy something $300 over face value in an attempt to resell it for more? Especially hardware that is already long in the tooth internally. Aaaand from Valve who typically has consistently restocked these over time.

    Idk though maybe there is a market for $1300 SD OLED resellers 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] 43 points 5 months ago

    Sold out to whom, though... customers or scalpers?

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    This may be my pessimism talking, but I feel like PC and Console gaming are probably both going the same route as Disney Theme Parks. If you have to ask how much it costs... If you aren't willing to blindly shell out too much for too little... Gaming won't be for you anymore. When it boils down to it, these things are luxuries. They've found their latest "limited production" excuse (AI gobbling up SSD, GPU, and RAM production) to pump up cost and there's definitely excess demand. Or at least enough scalpers willing to take that risk. Sure the cost spike will probably come back down some once the bubble pops, but if they keep selling out, then why would they ever lower the price again?

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    It's definitely getting worse, but I feel like it won't get that bad. I don't think that the unaffordabiltiy of PC components will result in gaming becoming a niche commodity, I think it will result in people either not being able to play certain games, or not play them at the settings they want. I think gaming will persist via things like cheaper or used hardware. I think also some game developers will adjust the performance requirements of their games so that it meets (or attempts to meet) the reality of what people are able to buy. Triple A gaming might die tho if they don't adapt.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    It will shift to streaming that can run on anything and things like mods, running older clients, and cheats will essentially be impossible. Unless of course you pay for them with in app purchases, which publishers love

    Short sighted consumers will eat it up because “oh now I don’t need an expensive console, I can just run an app on my tv!”

    Then comes the death of all the above, as well as a generation of kids having access to not just gaming, but 3d modeling and serious digital art, programming (as well as learning through modding and finding ways to cheat), music production, video editing, etc. how many of those things were only available to kids via piracy? Capitalists don’t give a shit about this. They’re salivating at everything become a streaming client which both essentially eliminates piracy as well as turning a one time software purchase into perpetual subscription hell.

    The crazy part is everyone but the tiniest sliver of people will be fucked by this. You know how musicians have shifted to basically making dick from streaming, and view it essentially as advertisement to funnel people into physical merch and concert ticket purchases, their only remaining revenue streams? Developers will be in the same place. It’s arguably advantageous now to be on something like gamepass but that’s because Microsoft is purposefully taking a small percentage barely above costs (10.5%). Once it’s dominant do you think they won’t shift to 30% like apple, steam, and google? And probably even more once distribution outside of their platform is unfeasible?

    And for the short sighted consumer saving $3-500 on a console once every 5-10 years becomes another $30 subscription, which outpaces the cost of a console in 2 years and also robs you of the shred of autonomy you did have

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago

    Gaming in general has been going to the wayside. Time spent gaming nowadays is spent on social media and online forums like this one. I'm not saying gaming is dead or even that it's remotely near that point (it will be still be around and thriving when I, a 17 year old, die) but coupled with the obscene prices, Gaming is not what it USED to be and it will be that way til something revolutionary comes...

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago (14 children)

    Where are all these people getting their money from??? And time to play video games???

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Maybe an unusual take, but I use the SD in desktop mode for working.
    The USB-C supports Display Port, so I have 2 external monitors connected and keyboard as well as mouse obviously.
    With another USB-C powered portable monitor as alternative it's an even kinda portable setup.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    1000$ isn't all that much for a purchase that should last for several years if you're an adult with a steady job and your primary hobby is gaming.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Steam Deck is already out of date in terms of capabilities, it's not lasting several years

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    I'd need another lifetime or three to go through the catalog of classic games it can run. Not everyone is chasing the dragon. If you're not pixel peeping or prone to crashing out every time the FPS dips below 60, you'll survive just fine. Turn the graphics slider down a notch and just enjoy the game. And as a portable PC I could probably get another decade out of the thing so long as the battery holds up or replacements remain available. It's not like anything revolutionary is coming that's gonna require me to have a better GPU just to fire off some SQL queries, fuss around in office software, compile some TeX, or whatever else.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    “Its not that expensive if you’re rich”

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    Many of you are lying about being unemployed our there.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    Half these "sold out" stories don't tell you if it was 500 units or 50. Supply was already a mess before the price hike ... AI ate the RAM market and now everything downstream pays for it. The device is great, the timing is just bad.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    Insert the “we aren’t going make it, humans I mean.” Meme.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    It is too expensive for me.

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