I can't imagine paying $1000 to play my backlog of under $5 games.
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Honestly, the way shit is going, get what you can while you can. Gaming is only going to get worse and more expensive by the week.
a steal if you consider tomorrow's prices
Im going to steal because I considered tomorrow prices
A lot of people going to be feeling that way which is why I'm done walking around with my Deck out.
Only if AI continues to ramp up.
We're seeing a lot of cracks. I don't know if any bubbles are going to burst, but the hype is far less common than the frustration these days.
On the other hand, I've seen a lot of stories of people getting addicted to the "agentic harnesses" and personally (and happily) blowing through hundreds to thousands of dollars/month. I've seen people write articles about how their $200/month subscriptions are such a good deal, lol. Companies are forcing their employees to use AI at insane costs. Nearly every software engineering job posting mentions using AI tools as a requirement. Anthropic's revenue is set to double this quarter and be its first profitable quarter (likely using a lot of accounting tricks).
I'm really curious if this AI industry can self-perpetuate itself with stupidity and greed indefinitely as everything becomes shittier and unreliable, and civilization slowly crumbles.
Or maybe save some money because everything is going to get worse.
Sure. I guess it depends on your anticipated financial situation and your priorities.
Is money going to hold its value? I'm debating on just stocking up on non perishable food and decent quality tools while I still can.
This is why I went ahead and bought one last January, It’ll probably last at least 5 years(i hope), and I can pirate and emulate games much more easily than on a console to keep my entertainment budget lower. Just a year early
I bought one at launch (not OLED though), it's still going strong. They made a really solid device and if anything breaks (which hasn't happened yet), it's easy to replace. I used GeForce now for the first time this month and it was really smooth and it's great the console doesn't heat up with it.
That being said, I think it's too expensive now..
What marketing agency wrote this? Dumb fucking idea. No one in the world needs Steam Deck and no company has ever responded to more sales with lower prices. Boycott that shit
Nobody needs any entertainment, but some people enjoy hobbies like gaming.
no company has ever responded to more sales with lower prices
Prices are going up rapidly thanks to AI data centers exploding demand by orders of magnitude more than retail customers. There is no end in sight to the price increases.
If you want a gaming device, buy it sooner rather than later. That's all I am saying.
Is there not a future in which the AI bubble bursts, and we are in a glut of datacentre memory and storage with no buyers?
There should be a cataclysmic bottoming out of the market that leads to a period of cheap, abundant parts.
Is there not a future in which the AI bubble bursts, and we are in a glut of datacentre memory and storage with no buyers?
There is. Unfortunately, not even the chips on the memory used by data centers is compatible with consumer hardware. They use extremely high performance, expensive HBM (High Bandwidth Memory), we use DDR memory. Unless consumers start getting affordable devices that are compatible with such memory, there is not much hope of buying what has been or is in the process of being made for data centers.
What is life without entertainment? Do you think all what life is about is to barely make ends meet while making extra profit for the billionaire class? I even got told that I don't even need healthy food, just be mindful how much I'm eating of the cheap unhealthy stuff, do some intermittent fasting, and eat apples as snack instead of sweets.
I wonder if this just means the supply was really low.
Considering the current ebay pricing, it doesn't really make sense for any scalper to buy it unless they think it will become some weird coveted collectors item.
Either way rip steam machine. I hope they continue to fund Proton and Lepton because it really made a massive impact for gaming on Linux.
I got a Steam Deck LCD 64GB for $350 and then put a 1TB SSD in it, so like $430 total. I love the SD, but it’s just not worth double that. A gaming laptop with a 4050 goes for about $800 now, so the current pricing isn’t really that good of a deal even at today’s prices.
Can you share a link of that laptop? My sister in law needs a new gaming laptop but everything I'm finding is waaaaay more like expensive than that. Granted, she's doesn't live in the US so whatever retail you send me won't work but if the laptop is cheap the same brand/model would probably be cheaper there.
MSI Thin 15 B13VE is the model. The only place I see it for $800 is Amazon at the moment.
Did it sell out to actual individuals or did scalpers buy up a bunch?
I’m not a scalper so idk what is normal, but I wouldn’t think it would be smart to buy something $300 over face value in an attempt to resell it for more? Especially hardware that is already long in the tooth internally. Aaaand from Valve who typically has consistently restocked these over time.
Idk though maybe there is a market for $1300 SD OLED resellers 🤷♂️
Anything to create scarcity in the market. If they can buy high and sell it to some idiot that pays higher, thats all they care about.
Used Decks were priced very far above MSRP on Facebook Marketplace a couple weeks ago. I assume that means that the demand is there.
If you search the old ones on ebay, the scalpers all have photos with a room full of steamdeck boxes
This may be my pessimism talking, but I feel like PC and Console gaming are probably both going the same route as Disney Theme Parks. If you have to ask how much it costs... If you aren't willing to blindly shell out too much for too little... Gaming won't be for you anymore. When it boils down to it, these things are luxuries. They've found their latest "limited production" excuse (AI gobbling up SSD, GPU, and RAM production) to pump up cost and there's definitely excess demand. Or at least enough scalpers willing to take that risk. Sure the cost spike will probably come back down some once the bubble pops, but if they keep selling out, then why would they ever lower the price again?
It's definitely getting worse, but I feel like it won't get that bad. I don't think that the unaffordabiltiy of PC components will result in gaming becoming a niche commodity, I think it will result in people either not being able to play certain games, or not play them at the settings they want. I think gaming will persist via things like cheaper or used hardware. I think also some game developers will adjust the performance requirements of their games so that it meets (or attempts to meet) the reality of what people are able to buy. Triple A gaming might die tho if they don't adapt.
It will shift to streaming that can run on anything and things like mods, running older clients, and cheats will essentially be impossible. Unless of course you pay for them with in app purchases, which publishers love
Short sighted consumers will eat it up because “oh now I don’t need an expensive console, I can just run an app on my tv!”
Then comes the death of all the above, as well as a generation of kids having access to not just gaming, but 3d modeling and serious digital art, programming (as well as learning through modding and finding ways to cheat), music production, video editing, etc. how many of those things were only available to kids via piracy? Capitalists don’t give a shit about this. They’re salivating at everything become a streaming client which both essentially eliminates piracy as well as turning a one time software purchase into perpetual subscription hell.
The crazy part is everyone but the tiniest sliver of people will be fucked by this. You know how musicians have shifted to basically making dick from streaming, and view it essentially as advertisement to funnel people into physical merch and concert ticket purchases, their only remaining revenue streams? Developers will be in the same place. It’s arguably advantageous now to be on something like gamepass but that’s because Microsoft is purposefully taking a small percentage barely above costs (10.5%). Once it’s dominant do you think they won’t shift to 30% like apple, steam, and google? And probably even more once distribution outside of their platform is unfeasible?
And for the short sighted consumer saving $3-500 on a console once every 5-10 years becomes another $30 subscription, which outpaces the cost of a console in 2 years and also robs you of the shred of autonomy you did have
Don't worry, for just 50 dollars a month you can subscribe to the basic peasant tier version of GeForce NOW that entitles you to a whopping 4 hours of game play per month, as long as its played between the hours of 3am and 4am local time.
Gaming in general has been going to the wayside. Time spent gaming nowadays is spent on social media and online forums like this one. I'm not saying gaming is dead or even that it's remotely near that point (it will be still be around and thriving when I, a 17 year old, die) but coupled with the obscene prices, Gaming is not what it USED to be and it will be that way til something revolutionary comes...
Where are all these people getting their money from??? And time to play video games???
I work full time so my screen time is limited, but the steam deck is my only gaming device, and in terms of enjoyment per ££ spent, it's probably the best thing I've ever bought.
Maybe an unusual take, but I use the SD in desktop mode for working.
The USB-C supports Display Port, so I have 2 external monitors connected and keyboard as well as mouse obviously.
With another USB-C powered portable monitor as alternative it's an even kinda portable setup.
1000$ isn't all that much for a purchase that should last for several years if you're an adult with a steady job and your primary hobby is gaming.
Steam Deck is already out of date in terms of capabilities, it's not lasting several years
Depends entirely on what games you play. Older audience are probably more likely to be into older less demanding games too. Personally the most recent game I've touched are from 2020 and 2023, and those are two big exceptions.
I'd need another lifetime or three to go through the catalog of classic games it can run. Not everyone is chasing the dragon. If you're not pixel peeping or prone to crashing out every time the FPS dips below 60, you'll survive just fine. Turn the graphics slider down a notch and just enjoy the game. And as a portable PC I could probably get another decade out of the thing so long as the battery holds up or replacements remain available. It's not like anything revolutionary is coming that's gonna require me to have a better GPU just to fire off some SQL queries, fuss around in office software, compile some TeX, or whatever else.
There is now a selection of handhelds out there that are newer and arguably better, but they're also expensive. I kinda think the Lenovo legion go gen 2 might be cool with steam OS installed - but it costs like 2k
can one play all, or just the best ps1-2, nintendo, and pc games in a few years?
I guess it's my imagination all the games I've been playing. Too bad, I'll have to throw it away now.
“Its not that expensive if you’re rich”
The same group of people who have the money to buy an iphone 17 pro.
Scalpers gotta scalp.
Half these "sold out" stories don't tell you if it was 500 units or 50. Supply was already a mess before the price hike ... AI ate the RAM market and now everything downstream pays for it. The device is great, the timing is just bad.
It is too expensive for me.
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