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[–] 183 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Prices of everything's going up and up... guess what's staying exactly the damn same?

Wages. Nah, dawg. We ain't buying your shit if you don't spread the wealth.

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  • [–] 38 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    And somehow weed street prices

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    You can thank legal weed for that. Oregon weed prices have stayed pretty cool and low for a long while now. Helps that this stuff is pretty easy to grow.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    Not much legal weed, were I'm from
    Still the price stayed the same since now...nearly 25 years
    With good connections or in bulk, it got even cheaper than before

    Not sure how that works out with rising energy prices.
    Maybe the switch to LEDs saved us here

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  • [–] 97 points 5 months ago

    I’m tired, boss.

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  • [–] 85 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    All things go up except salaries..

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  • [–] 240 points 5 months ago (22 children)

    I just..

    Its such a weird place to be in life to have bought technology years ago and to have it be more valuable now than it used to be. I don't think I'd would have bought a steam deck at this pricepoint, whereas I bought two at the lower price point (the LED, then the OLED)

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  • [–] 74 points 5 months ago (13 children)

    Turns out I should have bought an OLED even though I already had the first version...

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  • [–] 44 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Protip, anything you want, just in general - get it "now". Especially if you're in the US, there will never be a better time. We've not yet begun to feel the supply chain impacts from Iran. Shit's fucked, it's not slowing down, and there's no wand that can wave to fix it.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    Yep, been buying used kindles for cheap and jailbreaking them, set for reading forever, and sd cards and hard drives. Let it ride.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Off topic, but you seem likely to have opinions: If I was looking for a device to read in/before bed (ideally not a backlit screen) that would be used for more than just text (comics, tabletop rpg pdf content that would contain tables and illustrations, etc), are there any obvious choices, or things to look for? I'm comfortable jailbreaking, or even performing minor hard mods, but I haven't really shopped for an ereader before so I frankly have no idea what to look for

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago*

    The issue lies in power. Lit screen or not, the device needs to be able to call up 500MB or more for a comic series, more, way more for an omnibus or collection. For that, I haven't found an ebook reader barring BOOX products, which are higher-end, luxury Android ereaders with power to match their cost.

    A Kindle 4 is a great ereader with a lot of life left - if you like books. Manga snd comics?... stick to a modern ereader or a tablet.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Eh, I didn't go for the OLED upgrade and I'm still stoked about mine.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Neither did I, but lately it's been docked since I bent a CPU pin on my regular PC and have yet to unbend it, so it's been a temporary replacement. OLED wouldn't have made a difference in most of its use time in my case.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    Just wake from Bluetooth. Which is honestly crazy they didn't include it to begin with.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    I didn't know that wasn't originally possible. I don't use Bluetooth with it at all though. My headset and the controller I was using both has dongles, and now I use the Steam controller with it, so no change.

    The mouse and keyboard are just regular corded ones as well.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    Wait, are you able to wake it with your Steam Controller? I haven't been able to. I'm not on the beta OS though, I was having too many issues with some games on it.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Haven't ever even tried. I play almost everything with mouse/mb, funny usually turn the controller on till I've already launched the game I wanna use it with.

    I hear it's been a pain for people trying to get it to work, so I doubt it. Using it rn but I'll try to edit this after trying it.

    Edit- No, didn't work. Also, I can't make mine do the Wilhelm scream thing that's supposed to be an Easter egg. Tossed it on my bed at least 20 different ways, never does it. :(

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  • [–] 45 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I was an OG pre-order and this price point would have been a big fat hell nah from me. Even more true 4+ years later.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I was just looking up strix halo prices because I want another processing machine. The framework platform I was looking at last year is 1200 more expensive (just the base price) than last year.

    The 128gb variant was $1999 to start with last year... https://frame.work/products/desktop-diy-amd-aimax300/configuration/new

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    And that's not counting the NVMe, which also has seen major increases in market price.

    I got a 128GB version last year with an 8TB NVMe drive. Was, IIRC, $2,500 at that point.

    Now it's $4,178.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Same, and I too bought the LED and OLED. I sold my LED for $420 (with the new 1 TB SSD from the OLED I bought, added back grips and the original dock) to my friend cause he wanted to get one for his brother.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Same, and I too bought the LED and OLED. I sold my LED for $420 (with the new 1 TB SSD from the OLED I bought, added back grips and the original dock) to my friend cause he wanted to get one for his brother.

    I gave the LED one to my partner and now we can play cozy games side by side in bed.

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  • [–] 61 points 5 months ago (4 children)
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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    There are other AI companies as well.

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  • [–] 52 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I was really hoping to get a steam deck when I got a job after a string of job losses. This sucks so fucking much. Can barely afford the bread, and can only wish to attend a circus.

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  • [–] 37 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    https://swappa.com/listings/steam-deck

    Frankly, I'd recommend just buying a Mint condition Steam Deck from Swappa or eBay. And I'd recommend doing it soon BEFORE these sellers catch on to the price increase.

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  • [–] 104 points 5 months ago (27 children)

    The main reason the Steam Deck was popular to begin with was that it was a relatively affordable gaming PC in a handheld form factor. It has been getting less and less affordable as more time has gone on.

    Going to be a very tough sell from now on.

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  • [–] 57 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Not if everyone else goes up too

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  • [–] 30 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    That doesn't magically give me money to buy any alternatives with.

    All this shit is Sam Altman's fault, slimy fuck

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Totally get it. But, being real, budget is always a relative term. I wouldn't have been able to afford the cheapest version before, period. Mine was gifted to me. Items like this are only "budget" if you actually have a budget for a one off gaming device in the first place.

    I'm in the same boat as you if mine dies. No way in hell could I swing even the prices on the LCD version if they still offered them, much less the oled. It's what? 750+ USD for the lower tier version? That's almost my fucking mortgage. The LCD would still sit at the 600+ range most likely.

    And the deck is technically a full PC if you get a dock and set it up, but that's still a damn big outlay for a low tier PC.

    So, yeah, fuck Altman and every other dipshit pushing hopped up llms like they're the second coming.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, it was also popular because it was relatively open in a field of closed handhelds. You could play, basically, whatever you wanted on it. Price was a factor as well... but it was never cheap. Just less expensive than other options.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I bought an ally x about a year and a half ago. At the time it commanded a substantial premium over the OLED deck, but it had the specs to back it up. Since then the price gap has closed and Asus has released another version of the Ally. Asus isn't the only other handheld maker in town and you can install Bazzite or Steam OS on most of the deck alternatives. Unless you want an out of the box experience that doesn't involve windows, I am not sure the price point for four year old hardware makes any sense.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    There's better handhelds out there now, but they're more expensive. The Lenovo legion go 2 is supposed to be good if you install bazzite or steam os on it but the top end models are like £2000

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    For real. Doesn’t this just push people toward some of the cooler Lenovos, etc?

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  • [–] 39 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    No.

    https://www.pcworld.com/article/3106428/lenovo-legion-go-prices-have-jumped-by-up-to-650-in-six-months.html

    Lenovo Legion Go prices have jumped by up to $650 in six months

    Every Legion Go S and Legion Go 2 device I could find was more expensive than it was last year. Thanks, AI-driven RAM crunch.

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago

    Yeah, this is effecting everything and everyone, not just one or two companies.

    I could technically sell the parts of my computer today at a higher price than I bought them at because of all this bullshit.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    At this stage, the price hike of the steam deck is probably more about making the price of the upcoming Steam Box and VR headset look like an easier pill to swallow, and not about actually needing to raise the price of the steam deck.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Could be both, but I think that both RAM and SSDs have gotten so expensive due to the AI bubble that even high volume manufacturers are having to raise prices by an unreasonable amount to stay profitable.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    You're not wrong, but I don't think it went up $300 over what it was when they released the OLED model. The micron 2230 1 tb ssd is like $200 right now (micron was a major provider of 1 TB steam deck storage, but Valve used several) and that's what I can get it for. They were like $140 when the OLED came out in 2023, they went below $100 like a nearly a year later. Ram has definitely shot way up, but I doubt even that has straight up 5x on the price, to constitute the rest of that $300 increase.

    I'll still say this will be a lot more about making the steam box have less sticker shock.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Companies usually do not pay the same prices as an end customer, so they probably didn't paid $100 but way less (i know a dude with a company that pay WAY less an SSD than what i can find myself, like 40 instead of 120 and he isn't a big tech company, it was before the price hell) and probably the companies that produce SSD and RAM made the prices more similiar to the ones end customers pay because it's just more profitable to sell to AI companies instead of Valve

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Nah. It's all relative. If everything goes up accordingly, then steamdeck will remain a good buy.

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  • [–] 42 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Or nothing will be a good buy because people won't be able to afford to get anything.

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  • [–] 46 points 5 months ago

    It has been out of stock since Christmas or something. At least here. I guess they just can't produce any for a decent price anymore. Pretty sure that goes for most manufacturers. It's the reality we live in now. Still a bonkers price for hardware that was considered somewhat outdated 5 years ago. The Steam Machine for under $1k feels like a pipe dream at this point.

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  • [–] 36 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    That price increase for aging hardware is ludicrous.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    Yeah, and they're probably not making much profit on it. The cost of components is ludicrous.

    They're kind of fucked with the steam machine & frame. Unless they can source cheap components they'll probably have to price the things so high it pretty much ensures these products are DOA. I dunno, maybe they'll keep delaying release.

    Edit - I just checked, the prices have not gone up in my region, at least not yet. And they're actually available again.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah we live in a shitty dystopia thanks to Scam Fartman. Can't wait to sell my soul for the next graphics card.

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  • [–] 34 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Wow, the 1TB OLED model costs 919,00€ in Germany. Man this is depressing times.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago* (6 children)

    (the comma is a decimal point)

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    A small, but important detail. :D I always try to use the correct decimal separator for the unit.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Some years back, I had a friend who had lived in Germany for some time who came to the US and did a cash transfer without thinking at an ATM and couldn't figure out at first why her account got frozen. She'd used a comma instead of a period when entering the amount of money to be moved.

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  • [+] -7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    I would love to see information about why some countries do that.

    It's called a point.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    It is called a decimal separator. Should be obvious why languages that use a point for it would call it "decimal point". Other languages refer to it as comma.

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  • [–] 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    The only good side is that people are gonna replace their machines less often and that developpers might look at making games playable on less powerful hardware.

    The gamers who are really in trouble are the ones without a PC, a console or whatever yet. Or the ones with hardware on the verge of failing..

    I think it can have benefits for the gaming industry in a way.

    In such difficult times, people are still getting rid of perfectly working PC because these don’t have the requirements for Windows 11.

    My company gets us a new iPhone every 3 years when we could keep them for way longer.

    All of this can be good for Linux and optimisation, even if the situation is clearly not ideal.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago*

    The main argument against the idea that the steep price increases in PC consumer hardware will lead to a Future of "everything runs on the cloud" and "the end of personal computing" is that the makers of software that can't run on the cloud and remain decent (most notably game makers, as proven by the totally failure of things like Stadia) will just target their software the the hardware that's expected that people will have in 2 - 5 times, which as far as we can tell is "the same hardware as people have now" because only a small fraction of gamers can afford to upgrade.

    If people can't afford upgrading their PCs, software makers can't afford to demand upgraded computers.

    I would even say that the trend towards that predates this shit - in the last decade or so it's pretty much only AAA games who have been pushing the envelope in terms of hardware whilst increasingly Indie games are targetting lower end hardware.

    That's also good for Linux because, lo-and-behold, Microsoft is one of those software makers who with spectacularly bad timming just put out a main product that demands upgraded computers exactly when it's way harder for people to afford upgrading their computers.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    developpers might look at making games playable on less powerful hardware

    Yes, please let this lead to devs focusing on efficiency again. I don't need real time physics simulations and "lifelike" facial animations that still haven't found a way out of the uncanny valley after like two decades.

    I want snappy load times, download and install sizes in the tens of gigabytes, not hundreds, consistent frame rates even when there's a lot going on on the screen. I have more VRAM than God, yet I still get stuttering in some games on high graphics settings. It's pathetic.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    There were rumors that Larian was delaying their internal schedule for the next Divinity game because they decided to spend more time optimizing due to the RAM situation. If that is true then that is good.

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  • [–] 30 points 5 months ago* (4 children)

    I think you shouldn't buy a steam deck and instead save that money. It looks to me that there will be more and more inflation and food may start to become real expensive, specially if hormuz doesn't open up and fertilizer can't get through. Trump will never open Hormuz because it's part of the American strategy to keep it closed.

    We are in the stage where all the systems are being broken intentionally, so buying a steam deck now... Seems misguided. You may need that money for food. Or your parents may need it.

    Im still on a computer from 2017 but luckily with upgraded memory and graphics card from before this shit started, so it runs games very good.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Food is already going to go up in the future even if they opened the Straits today. Crops have sowing and harvesting seasons. Miss the sowing season because of a lack of fertiliser and you've no harvest. And those windows for sowing are fixed and known, you can't just go "oh I've got fertiliser now so I can go plant my crops." If you're out of the sowing window you can plant the seed but it's not going to germinate and grow. And for a lot of crops we're in the middle of that season right now.

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  • [–] 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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    Europe: 512GB OLED went from €569 to €779 (+€210, +37%), and 1TB OLED from €679 to €919 (+€240, +35%).

    I really like the Deck, but I wouldn't recommend it at these prices, and the price increase is just bonkers even for the crazy times we live in.

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