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[–] 136 points 6 months ago (20 children)

Turns out I don't actually dislike vegetables, I just dislike how my mother's and grandmother make them. Did you know they can be served with colour still on them?

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  • [–] 52 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Do you mean to tell me vegetables can be cooked some other way besides boiling? And you can put seasoning on them?!? My grandfather would be disgusted by the thought.

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  • [–] 29 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    I got fucking microwave steamed frozen veggies with no seasoning at all not even butter and if I didn't eat the freezer burnt slop I wasn't allowed to leave the table.

    Trauma bonding hell yeah. 👊

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I get the microwaved steamed veggies now. But I at least toss them in some olive oil or butter and season them. Usually I'll microwave them halfway to thaw them then fry them in some oil to get a nicer char. Not gourmet, but perfectly fine.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    I used to stir fry my veggies, but they'd end up soft due to the resulting moisture.

    Then I baked them in the oven hoping that'd be better, but I'd overcook them just a bit and they'd be too hard.

    I finally decided to air fry my veggies, and they were juuuuuuuuuuuuust right!

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Boggles my mind oven roasted asparagus and broccoli were not a thing as a child.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    My gourmand grampolycule even did grilled lemon almond mzithra broccoli once in the 90s. They spoiled us.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Well that sounds like a good... someone. Gourmet grandpa?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    oh sorry. i forget not everyone was here for the full explanation. one of my bio grampas was in a polycule and i call it the grampolycule because i had So Many Grampas

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Turns out I love Brussels sprouts, so long as you don’t cook them til they’re grey.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Also, the new cultivars are WAY less bitter. You can still grow the old type yourself at home, and it's really a huge difference.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    This is the important part. Modern Brussels sprouts are NOT your grandma's sprouts from the 1990s or earlier. From wikipedia :

    In the 1990s, the Dutch scientist Hans van Doorn identified the chemicals that make Brussels sprouts bitter: sinigrin and progoitrin.[11] This enabled Dutch seed companies to cross-breed archived low-bitterness varieties with modern high-yield varieties

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    I've made delicious strawberry ice cream. One way to get the strawberry flavor in there is to steep the milk/batter with berries and let the berry juice seep out of the berry. Fun fact! If you do this, you get white ghost berries so strain them out. If you want berry chunks, add new berries afters.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    This was me with soup. My mom would use all the dregs of whatever she had around to make "soup," and it was disgusting. Real soup made with the good parts of fresh ingredients is amazing, and I didn't even know until I was in my mid-20's!

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  • [–] 74 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    My grandmother would put food in the oven before turning it on. When the timer would go off, she'd be frustrated that the food was dehydrated and undercooked, so she'd try her best to salvage it by starting the timer again for the same amount of time. Then she'd ask "what smells funny?" before pulling the food out from the oven, and complaining that the recipe was bad.

    She never cooked before she got married, but she was married for somewhere around 70 years.

    70 years.

    In 70 years, she was never able to understand the concept of preheating the oven. When I was a child, she'd come over to my parents' house. If my mom was preparing dinner, and the oven was preheating, my grandmother would turn off the oven and tell my mother that she shouldn't leave the oven on. My mom tried so many times to explain preheating the oven, but my grandmother insisted that it was a waste of energy.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (7 children)

    that's not a waste of energy, but i bet there was also other habit that is: unless you want to specifically evaporate water, things will get boiled just the same on low or high heat. (heating up to boiling point is most economical using high power) there's zero reason to keep thing boiling on high heat then add water. also, using hot tap water. water heater is much better at heating water than open gas flame, yet i see people insisting on heating entire pots and kettles of cold tap water

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    I've always heard not to drink hot tap water or cook with it because of the risk of nasty things leaching from the pipes. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-07/is-it-actually-bad-to-drink-warm-water-from-the-tap/102812252

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Legionella specifically. If you're going to drink hot from the tap, go all the way to boiling first

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    legionella dies after 2min at 60C tho

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    do i look like i'm made of thermometers?

    don't look in my barbecue drawer look at the thing in front of you that is meat

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    where i live it's a part of building code that hot water has to be hot enough that legionella doesn't survive in it. depending on the place it might be different and whether building is up to code is a separate thing entirely

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    If you have legionella in your hot water, the issue isn't going to come from drinking it, but inhaling it when you shower. As long as you don't have a dead leg in your water system or a circuit that stagnates for long periods of time, legionella is pretty much a non-issue in the vast majority of homes, even older homes.

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  • [–] 51 points 6 months ago (22 children)

    Church potluck every Sunday when I was a kid. A whole buffet line of jello based not dessert dishes. Usually peas in green jello, shredded carrots in orange jello,or hotdog in jello abominations. If not jello, there were at least 10 mayonnaise based atrocities.

    I ate a lot of dinner rolls.

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  • [–] 23 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    I still can't do potlucks because my parents forced me to eat all sorts of random bullshit at the church potluck, because they felt like being seen eating someone's dish conferred some weird church status.

    "Go over and tell Miss Borley how much you liked her chicken liver and salmon casserole."

    On the other hand, this also contributed to my powerful disdain for church, so I guess that's something. The only way out is through... a senile lady's disgusting casserole, or something.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    "Go over and tell Miss Borley how much you liked her chicken liver and salmon casserole."

    Okay, Mommy!

    goes over and vomits all over Miss Borley

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    In defense of my old church:

    Pizza biscuits.

    Get Pillsbury biscuit dough, slap down one, slap down mozzarella, marinara, pepperoni/sausage, slap down another biscuit over top, do this 12 times, cover and bake.

    Sorta like a poor man's calzone... or, arguably, they're just super sized pizza pockets.

    Don't pair well with grape juice imo, but they were honestly pretty good.

    We did eventually get an Italian soda station bar type thing, no clue if we just aped that from the Mormons or came up with it independently.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    I've always thought this was some sort of mass hysteria. Who ate any of that stuff and thought "oh, hell yeah, so good"? Who would make it twice? Let alone more?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I've always figured it was a remnant from the depression that overstayed it's welcome. A lot of those horrid old recipes feel like some of the old depression recipes with too many resources, like buying up all the potions ingredients in Skyrim to make random shit. Hope you like 33 flavors of damage stamina and damage health.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    WWII for the canned food. That's why them and Boomers hold onto a bunch of food items that only happened for 15-20 years.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    I feel like the food rationing for some things during WWII wasnt enough of a large scale change from the depression era rationing to be notable. Regardless that's still about 15+ years of food scarcity to have a major cultural impact especially since much like right now the buildup to the great depression fully stetting in started as early as 1925 in some areas.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Y'all's churches were weird. Growing up catholic in a German part of America we just did fish fries with beer battering and pig roasts, both with copious beer, though the kids had to stick to a single sip of wine. My wife's catholic upbringing was more Italian American and her church did meatballs in tomato sauce.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I must have lucked out, the oddest thing at my childhood churchs' potlucks were the ambrosia/watergate salad where they used ingredients that they liked instead of what the typical recipe calls for, or waldorf salads which had just a little too much mayo and not enough whipped cream.

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  • [–] 38 points 6 months ago (21 children)

    My grandma wouldn’t give me her recipe for my favorite dessert and she died:( My aunts try to reassure me by saying she probably didn’t have a recipe she probably felt it out.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    When I asked for the recipe (fudge) my grandma legit sent me a cutout from the back of a marshmallow fluff jar. I am 100% certain that’s not the recipe she used.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    You might have been provided a "less-ipe". In communities where recipes are closely guarded, social pressures may force one to share what would be a personal secret. So they give an adulterated version ensuring only they, the original recipe holder can produce the beloved result.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    One of my grandmothers had secret recipes, but when realized her time was coming to an end she taught each of her daughters different ones. So one was taught these sauces, another those desserts, and the other some special entrees. Of course the daughters got together and trained one another, but that was the point.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    It’s very likely:( I know some people who are holding out on their kids for that reason.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    My mother has a couple recipes like this. Meanwhile I've taught the entire family (and my friends and some of the internet) all of my secret recipes. I only have two that I haven't taught her and I told her she can have them when she gives me hers.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    That’s why one day I insisted on standing next to my grandma to take notes. I‘m glad I did because otherwise her „I don’t have a recipe“ noodle dish would have been lost forever.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I did this too! I had her write down the ingredients of my favorite Mac and cheese she made, and I still have it.

    1Tbsp salt in boiling water
    Add 4 cups macaroni When cooked, drain/add
    1/4 cup milk
    2 cups Kraft grated cheddar cheese

    I liked the grated from the bag as a kid because she made me grate my own cheese. Ha!

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    I wonder if all great cooks "feel it out" or if that's just something I tell myself to help my disorganized ass sleep at night.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Cooking allows for a lot of "feeling it out". For example, most spices you aren't really going to taste a difference between a tsp and a tbsp of the same spice. Just knowing what spices go into the dish you are making can often be enough.

    For example, taco seasoning is onions, cumin, oragano, chili pepper, and paprika. By far, the cumin and onions drive the flavor, you could almost leave out everything else. With that in mind, it mostly ends up being just the technique. Brown the onions, toast the spices, brown the meat. The actual amount of spices that goes in won't make a huge difference one way or another. What does make a difference is if you grind your cumin instead of using preground (that's true for most seed spices).

    Technique is often the most important thing vs exact ingredient measuring. The exception to this is baking. You must measure (preferably by weight) your flour and liquids. You can eventually do it by feel, but it's hard. You'll get much better results with a scale. Even then, it's mostly just the process of targeting the right hydration. 70% does well for a lot of white breads (For every 1 gram of flour add 0.7g of liquid).

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Thank you for the best and simplest explanation of doing __% hydration for dough that I've seen.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago*

    No problem. I've definitely seen a lot of baking articles that somehow try and make this simple concept unbelievably convoluted.

    The only other thing to know is that 1 mL of water = 1 gram of water. Which means 170g of water == 170 mL of water (At STP... blah blah blah. It's not super important to hit exactly 70% you can hit 75% or 65% and you'll be fine. It's close enough to true).

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Wouldn't that be 41% hydration? You add 0.7g water to 1g flour, you get 1.7g of dough, 0.7g is about 41% of 1.7g

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Nope. You aren't measuring the percentage of liquid in a dough. You are measuring the percentage of liquid relative to the mass of flour. That's why you can have 100% or higher hydration doughs.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Yeah, and even when you do taste a difference, it's rarely actually bad. Usually, it's just a different hint of something in the overall taste. If you make the dish often, those variations are actually good, because it makes it more interesting.

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    [–] 35 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

    I had an elderly aunt that made "oyster stew" on special occasions. The recipe was as follows:

    One gallon of 2% milk
    One 16 oz. jar raw oysters with juice
    Salt and pepper to taste

    That's literally all that was in it. She'd mix it together, heat until steaming, then serve. Just a big pot of hot, oyster scented, salty milk, served with oyster crackers. Everyone hated it and none of her children carried on the tradition.

    That recipe deserved to die.

    Edit: oops, broken line breaks.

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    [–] 24 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    It can't be overstated how many of those recipes were some con to sell canned shit that Grandma cut out of a magazine. There's very little "in the old county we cooked like this..." that made it through the Boomer food filter. Best case scenario is it's Betty fucking Crocker.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    All my family recipes come from my male ancestors. Sure it's also various ways of making canned food work, but it's also been an evolving process since the 1800s so it's evolved from somewhat edible to outright good. All of them are trail/camping recipes for context, lots of meat, starche, and grain.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    My grandma hand-wrote down all her recipes for her daughters before she died. A few years ago I decided a nice gift for all of them would be to transcribe the recipes into a printed book. While trancribing the recipes I realized that 80% of her dishes were just variations of ground beef, cream of mushroom soup, oleo, and shredded cheese.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    I don't know what the fuck that monstrosity is, but what I do know is that it is neither a snack nor a sandwich!

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    There's 4 bread layers, spread with some kind of cream cheese/mayo abomination and laid down with gherkins, ham, pistachios, and mushrooms before being pressed in the fridge overnight and "frosted" with I dunno, horseradish or CoolWhip or something. The bread makes it a sandwich I guess.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    My dad couldn't cook rice for shit. Always put way too much water in the rice cooker. On his last Thanksgiving, he made rice with something that turned it pink, honest to God not sure if he used food dye or something else.

    And I'm convinced my hatred of liver ties back to how he'd drop beef liver in various soups. I'd never know if the meat I was biting into was goat, turkey or liver until it was too late.

    He also gave us food poisoning twice. Yeah, he was a shit cook. Fortunately his cooking died with him.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Family recipes are great though. Not women's job, but they are great and should be preserved. Unless they involve gelatin.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago*

    I dont necessarily agree - my family (including my mother who has run a few restaurants into the ground) didnt have any recipes worth passing down - unless you count dumping a jar of ragu in a pot with some spaghetti.

    By the time I was 20 I could match or improve the flavour of any dish from childhood (about the only good thing to come out of going to a culinary scam college), and I ended up not cooking... Basically any of it. I still pop open a can of smoked oysters on cheese and cracker nights, but thats more for remembering my grandma than anything else.

    I blame the fact that everyone in my family smoked like a chimney and had no tastebuds left.

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