Hakeem doesn't say stuff like this and that's why he needs to go.
Hakeem will describe vague notions of problems to be fixed with ultimate solutions that end up being "give health insurers more money".
Abdul is proposing the policy, medicare for all, and saying "but call it whatever you want". Hakeem will identify a problem, but ultimately will push dogshit policies that aren't popular.
That's part of why he's so much better.