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[–] 123 points 3 months ago (39 children)
  • [–] 195 points 3 months ago (19 children)

    Watching this as a European, it's wild how blatantly hard this "news" anchor repeatedly tries to twist the guys words to make him sound like he's saying something he's not.

    Like the guy's being perfectly reasonable in almost every point:

    • We're all paying taxes for healthcare benefits, why are we not all getting access to them?

    • The US treats illegal immigration with a bizare level of criminality. Unless there's violence involved, then its a civil matrer, so why are militarised bloodthirsty hounds being set upon these people?

    • Speaking of which... ICE are litterally going around in masks, racially profiling and detaining and killing US citizens. Why are they not being held to account?

    It actually makes me happy to see that anchor squirm when the guy brought up Donald Trump being a pedo and the pushing under the rug of the Epstein files.

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  • [–] 127 points 3 months ago (16 children)

    Because Fox News is not, nor has it ever been, an actual news outlet.

    They are GOP/Oligarch/Israel/Russia/etc funded US state propaganda. They were founded and are owned by a fascist Australian businessman (Rupert Murdoch) who owns other outlets like Sky News.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    Because Fox News is not, nor has it ever been, an actual news outlet.

    And isn't that what the FCC is bitching about, when it comes to other networks?

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    TV rules are weird in the US. This is going to be simplified, but essentially it’s accurate as I understand it. Because of the first amendment guarantees of freedom of speech and freedom of the press, the government can’t actually tell you what you can and can’t say.

    Except in the case of broadcast television. Because the way the law works, the right to use those radio signals is owned by the government and granted to companies. So the FCC gets to decide what you can and cannot say on a broadcast television channel.

    Fox News is not a broadcast channel, it is a cable channel. So the government doesn’t get to tell them shit and they can get away with whatever they want.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    The other bullshit is, "news" channels have to abide by rules and regulations against bias and misinformation. Every time Fox News gets sued for something like that, they say, "We're not "news" we're "entertainment media", no reasonable person would take anything we say as fact" to avoid being regulated or held accountable. This was their entire defense in the Tucker Carlson v Dominion Voting case

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Then they should be banned from using the world "News".
    Not even the Daily Show uses it and it's way more informative and accurate toppled only by Last Week Tonight.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    There was a graph going around during Stewart's first stewardship of the Daily Show, listing how well viewers of various news programs scored on a test of current affairs. The Daily Show came in third, ahead of every single "real" news channel save PBS and NPR. A comedy program is a more reliable news source than the actual news!

    (Fox was near the bottom, as one would expect.)

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I remember that, fox news wasn't just near the bottom. The study showed that fox news viewers were actually LESS informed about current events than people who watched the daily show exclusively.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    You're confusing Defamation law and the repealed "Equal Time" rule.

    There are currently no rules about what is and isn't news.

    There are laws about what is and isn't defamation. Whenever Fox gets sued for Defamation, they bring out the "we're entertainment not news, so no one should believe us" line.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    The UK public in general has known to avoid any Murdoch-owned UK news outlet since said outlets hacked people of interest's phones in 2011, and many folk learned just what an oligopolistic pos Murdoch is and how the bias of his companies shouldn't be trusted. I assume the majority has forgotten or doesn't care, but they had the opportunity to know and avoid Murdoch corporations.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Should've been wary of it before.

    Murdoch killed the British newspaper unions because he took out a loan to establish FOX in America, and he used the salaries of the workers for his British papers to pay for it.

    Honestly, he should've been laughed out of business the moment he established the misogynistic and pedo-like page three girl.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Our media here has been captive for decades. And it's not just Fox News (though they're the most obvious as they don't really bother trying to cover it up).

    They're all so terrified of losing access that they never hold anyone's feet to the fire, or even ask follow up questions after blatant lies.

    It's frankly embarrassing.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    Yeah, the most blatant example of this is national debates. On the topic of healthcare I've not seen a national debate that hasn't framed universal healthcare "questions" as some sort of extremely expensive unaffordable luxury that will make jesus cry because it's communist.

    IE "Mister Sanders, you support universal healthcare which our analysts say will cost 1 trillion dollars and will cause insurance companies to go bankrupt costing thousands of jobs. How will you solve these problems?" (not exact, but pretty close).

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Oliver should practice emoting in front of the camera a bit more. His arguments have the sauce, but his delivery is completely sauceless. He needs to use his face better.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    He's good at being unflappable and positive. You are absolutely right about his emotional affect, though. Hopefully that will increase as he grows more confident.

    Because he should be confident.

    All those policies about getting more for your money and spreading the wealth fairly are insanely popular.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    He could go with laughing at the absolute clown rhetoric his interviewer was coming with. The cockwomble really thought that he could trip him up and get him to say something like "oh no actually I think we should be protecting criminals that rape babies, that's perfectly fine."

    It's nice to see a preview of what Swedish political debate will look like in a couple of months.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (9 children)
  • [–] 28 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    7 min mark but honestly you should watch the video. The host is effectively leaning absolutism and our guy is not having it and finally gives in with a what aboutism of his own which is the Trump Pedo comment.

    The hosts logic is that there was a case where a 6yr old was raped by an immigrant therefore ICE is necessary. I’m sure this is some kind of logic fallacy. Slippery slope? Some one will correct me. :)

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    The hosts logic is that there was a case where a 6yr old was raped by an immigrant therefore ICE is necessary. I’m sure this is some kind of logic fallacy. Slippery slope? Some one will correct me. :)

    False cause maybe? Implying that the person is a rapist because they are an immigrant

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    He's doing great. It's hard to stay focussed under that sort of bullshit cascade. Definitely better at the start, when he mostly ignored the dead cats and just stated what the DSA's extremely popular and easy to sell policies are.

    Hehe. Just got to the fun part. That is great. Talk about an unforced error. 😄

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  • [–] 52 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    THINK of the CHILDREN!

    -People KIDNAPPING Children and putting them in PRIVATE, UNDISCLOSED Centers being run by KNOWN Sex Offenders!

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  • [–] 40 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Screenshot of a screenshot of a screenshot of a video.

    Where link to video?

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  • [–] 40 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Fox news is such a shit show. Guy on the left asked no good faith questions, he was not looking for a real answer. Guy on the right did such a great job keeping a calm demeanor while being repeatedly interrupted and ridiculed.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 months ago

    Can''t get it to play on Fox News but plays just fine on YouTube for the moment.

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  • [–] 54 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Bruh this post title ain't it. Leave the cocksuckers alone.

    Nobody complains about getting their dick sucked so why are we shaming the dick suckers??

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  • [–] 35 points 3 months ago (33 children)

    How can this be a serious news host?

    Are Americans really this stupid?

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  • [–] 52 points 3 months ago (26 children)

    It's Fox, literally the only people who watch it are the Maga. Unfortunately that's too many of us still so yes, we really are this stupid

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  • [+] -24 points 3 months ago (25 children)

    Literally the most watched news program in the country, lol. It ain't just MAGA.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (24 children)

    It's still only got 3.3 million daily viewers on average. Over 77 million voted for Trump. The venn diagram of the two is more of a circle than not

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  • [+] -20 points 3 months ago (23 children)

    The 77 million people who voted for trump aren't all MAGA, lol.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (12 children)

    Every single one of those 77 million is a maga idiot. Including all fox watchers.

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  • [+] -8 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    I mean, I think way more Americans than that are idiots, but we're talking about MAGA.

    27% of all voters identified as MAGA, 54% of those who voted for Trump self identified as MAGA.

    -from a comment further up.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    "they aren't members of the nazi party, they only voted for it" They gave him power, they are maga idiots.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    The Arabs in Michigan who were afraid of kamala continuing to genocide their friends and family and were tricked into voting for trump. MAGA according to you?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    Many have voiced regret for voting for Trump, especially after he posted that weird AI video of a giant resort where Palestine used to be. They have said they felt played and lied to. Absolutely.

    They also have said they still wish it had been any Democrat other than Kamala.

    Both can be true

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Sure, that still doesn't make them MAGA.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    In the eyes of others who recognize they fell for the cult's lies and backed the cult it does. Because they very vocally campaigned for and backed MAGA, which was Trump's entire thing you can't separate them, they are MAGA to everyone else. That's how categorization by others vs self-identification works. We categorize them as MAGA then. They can regret their decision and leave and get a new label, but as of voting time, they absolutely were MAGA

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    You're absolutely proving your inability to read.

    That's self identified. Very different from "considered maga by others" or any other label. Many don't self identify as something but support it completely. Many don't self identify and don't support. You're trying to twist numbers.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    Here, let's back this up with data instead of your feelings.

    https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_8FWGyNz.pdf

    That's a YouGov poll of American voters. 27% of all voters identified as MAGA, 54% of those who voted for Trump self identified as MAGA.

    Roughly 156,000,000 ballots were cast in 2024, of those roughly 77,000,000 were cast for Trump.

    .27x156,000,000=42,120,000
    .54 * 77,000,000 = 41,580,000

    That's still way more than the 3 million viewership they claim. But wait, we can do more.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/2025/06/10/the-political-gap-in-americans-news-sources/

    Data shows that 57% of Republicans go to primarily Fox for their news.

    Is it hyperbole to say only MAGA watch Fox News? Yeah okay sure. But anyone who didn't fail high school should have enough neurons to rub together to understand that's what my statement was but also that statistically MAGA or close to MAGA is their largest viewing base and they lean into that far right.

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  • [+] -10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    So my feelings were largely correct. Who could have guessed?

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  • [–] -5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Uhh.. What? Who's coping and seething?

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  • [–] 47 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    You can suck dick without being a monster, rapist, or pedophile. Dick sucking is not inherently bad, in fact I would say, it is good by default. Stop relating the LGBTQ+ community to pedophilia for no reason at all.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    WTF does sucking dick have to do with pedophilia?

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago*

    Nothing. It's an attempt to associate LGBTQ people with something for which we already have strong negative emotions in order to make/keep them the Source of All That Is Bad, around which simple minded voters can be rallied.

    Furthermore, it can be used to derail legitimate discourse. You're forced into a defensive position when interviewed and asked "why are you defending a pedophile" and your first response needs to be "LGBTQ is not the same as pedophilia". There's an immediate ick, even though it's 100% correct.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    I may just be desensitized but i read it more like the way you would read "shit eating pedophiles" as in it's more of a general insult than a literal dick sucking nonce

    Or it's a parallel to the dicksucking these " " " " News " " " (quotations for emphasis of their distance to actual journalism) channels do for their nonce filled political class

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