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[–] 101 points 6 months ago (9 children)

But then my cars would be in China, and that’s not much use.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Also I don't really need 5 cars

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Yes, but do you want 5 cars?

    And if you haven't tried 5 cars, how will you ever know?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

    Good god no, I can't afford all that rego and insurance. The parking at my little house would be a nightmare.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    OK, we'll just have to have 5 houses - with a car at each!

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  • [–] 147 points 6 months ago (26 children)

    Yea but you’re still hungry for another car an hour later!

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (24 children)

    I have never understood this joke

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  • [–] 59 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    The thought is the simple carbs from rice, noodles, and high sugar sauces in a lot of takeout-style Chinese food gets digested quickly, so while one can eat that until they feel stuffed, the body will quickly break it down, and with the volume of fiber and protein in the meal being relatively low to the volume of starches and sugars, your stomach will soon be wanting more due to the low satiety provided. One could eat a smaller amount of, say, steak and broccoli, and remain fuller for much longer, due to the better nutritional balance and higher protein and fiber content which takes the body much longer to digest than starches and sugars.

    It is played as a joke since a large number of people experience this overeating, yet soon hungry again situation, and attribute it to the food, although probably not in a way of understanding they're eating a different kind of junk food than what they're used to. My understanding is all this stuff is westernized and not really reflective of what Chinese food actually is.

    This is also why people talk about Asians getting a "secret menu" at Asian restaurants. It's not as though Westerners are forbidden to order real Asian dishes, they're just a completely different taste profile than what a lot of Westerners are accustomed to, whether dishes be too spicy, too salty, or not sweet/saucy/cheesey/etc enough. One time I went fishing in the ocean and got way too many fish. I offered them to the guys in the Chinese takeout place attached to where I was working. They offered me some of what they made for themselves with it but gave me a heads up that I may not exactly enjoy it. I took a bite and it tasted sooooo salty, and I got surprised it still had the soft fish bones in it, and it wasn't bad but was not what my palette was ready for at the time and I could not finish it, meanwhile they were all grateful and fully enjoying it.

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  • [–] 34 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    That was one of the most typed out joke explanations I've ever seen online, I salute your patience.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    I try to keep things simple, but I also always want to give the most complete answer I can, so I end up being pretty long winded. If someone takes the time to ask a question, I assume they do want the full answer though. I always worry I'm beating things into the ground, but I really want people to know as much as they can. People are always free to tell me to shut my trap. 😄

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    shut your trap! jk, how do you think an owl would feel about American Chinese food?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Mmm, if they left the food out to attract some other critters they could indirectly eat healthily thanks to it. They'd be mad at you for making them wait though instead of just feeding them owl food. Eating American Chinese food would not make them happy. Have you ever tried using chopsticks with your toes?! 😜

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    simple carbs from rice, noodles, and high sugar sauces in a lot of takeout-style Chinese food gets digested quickly

    I always thought it was because of the high salt content, and possibly how "spicy" Americanized Chinese food tasted to the palates of whichever decade first made that joke (50s?). With a lot of salt and spice you're drinking way more water than you normally would, causing you to feel full quicker.

    Anecdotally when I eat a big bowl of ramen it's pretty much all simple carbs and it keeps me feeling full for about two meals' worth.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Both could be correct, especially since many folks' diets are much different today than they were that long ago.

    I'm far from a nutritionist, and I don't think I could really explain the GI Index well enough to give the real how and why of eating a ton of simple carbs actually makes you still feel hungry despite eating enough to feed an army.

    With the high salt content, people can feel a craving, that is actually for water, but can be misinterpreted as hunger. We know our body needs something, but we don't always understand what that something is.

    My home ramen is too basic, and doesn't do much to fill me up, but the ramen place in town I find very filling, as the broth has some fat content, there's meat and egg for protein, and there's things like mushrooms, bamboo shoots, and other veg to provide that fiber which either takes a long time to digest or is just plain indigestible so it really sticks with you, literally. I can't be bothered to prep all that at home. 😁

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    Have you eaten Americanized "Chinese" food? I eat it every on every last Tuesday of the month. I order two meals for myself every time, because without fail, I will be hungry again within less than 2 hours. Yesterday (4/28/2026), I had a pint of General Tso's Chicken with a pint of beef lo mein. That's an entire quart of food. If I ate a quart of spag bol for my lunch, I'd be done for the night. I'd be asleep. But after my big ol' "Chinese" lunch, I was hungry ~90 minutes later, so I ate my pint of Szechuan Chicken and my pint of pork fried rice. Wonton soup was also involved. Yes, I added the fried noodles.

    And even after that, I got a large pizza (pepperoni, pineapple, and extra cheese) at 10:30pm, just to cover the late night munchies. I only ate 4 slices out of 8, so I had some left for breakfast today. The stuff we sell as "Chinese food" in the USA is not very filling.

    YMMV, I am a large man, and I am very active. I'm 6'4", I lift weights, and I run 6 miles a day. My TDEE is ~3800 calories. If you're one of those folks who only need 1200-1600 calories a day, a simple lunch from the "Chinese" spot would be a lot of food for you. My wife is small, and she can easily live off 1600-1800 calories a day. Our gf is tiny and lives off of 1200 calories a day most days. A "splurge" day for her is 1500-1600 calories.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Could you give much more detail please?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    I'm happy to answer any questions you have.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    Yes, please expand on the my wife and our girlfriend aspect of this story... You really eat more than them combined?

    I have no follow-up questions.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    please expand on the my wife and our girlfriend aspect of this story…

    My wife and I are both in love with another woman. If it was legal, the three of us would all be married. The kids I have with my wife and the kids I have with our gf view each other as siblings, and recognize all three of us as their parents.

    You really eat more than them combined?

    Yes, a large athletic man eats more than two small mostly sedentary women. I also weigh more than the two of them combined. If I ate much less than I do, I'd be losing mass. Sometimes I eat even more than 3800 calories a day, but that's in my bulk phases. 3800 is just my maintenance number.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I eat it pretty often, I just haven’t found that to be the case for me. Then again, my breakfast this morning was two big cups of coffee and a single clementine. Im pretty active but not close to what you do, I think 7 miles is my personal best for distance.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Then again, my breakfast this morning was two big cups of coffee and a single clementine.

    Damn homie, I honestly love that for you. No sarcasm, no cap. But I need to have what amounts to a full English every morning. And one clementine would honestly just piss me off. I've had 6 blood oranges today, and it's not even 4pm yet. I'll likely have 2-3 more today, plus a steak sandwich.

    I think 7 miles is my personal best for distance

    7 miles is a respectable distance, you're doing great. I just chose 6 a day because then I can plan out my times better, and my dogs love it.

    I love how different 2 humans can be.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I probably wouldn’t eat until the evening if I had a full English! My goal is to hit a 10k in under 50 mins. I’ve managed to do a sub 53 minute, but shaving off those three minutes has been surprisingly difficult.

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  • [–] 50 points 6 months ago (19 children)

    I dont want 5 cars i want 1 car

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  • [–] 32 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Okay, but it's gonna cost five times as much.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    I dont even want a car, I want frequent and reliable transit

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    I want that too, but im super rural, so no mass transit option for me

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Maybe someday it will be possible but yeah rural areas probably need cars.

    Although in parts of Europe they have pretty great bike path networks in the rural areas too. Might replace some trips to the neighbors or closer destinations.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Im all for ditching ice engines, and finding better alternatives, the downside is its over 2 hours by bike one way to the closest town. The other downside is being rural, power is super expensive, so even charging batteries sucks too

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah I mean I'm known to meme about banning cars but keep in mind we're talking about in cities. We know you will need them in some areas.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I'm also fairly rural, and work rural, too. Cars kind of suck, even when they're required to do what you have to.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    I genuinely like driving, and the freedom and comfort associated with cars tbh.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    There is freedom of having one of your largest capital investments being a tool that depreciates the moment you purchase it and every time you use it, combining a variety of functions in such a way that all can be done, but none as well as something that just does one of them, while also requiring the majority of your attention to be spent on it and others using a similar device just to make sure everyone survives?

    Okay, I guess.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

    You only say that because of how it is, not how it could be.
    Here in Sweden we have smaller busses that go outside the normal (which are pretty extensive themselves) areas that you call to book beforehand, they're like vans with 10 seats that drive on demand to get you from where you are to the nearest mass transit point.

    Combining every city having good buss networks well outside the main cities with the above mentioned and a train network throughout the whole country means you can get pretty much anywhere via public transit. I've traveled from my city, Gothenburg, to a very remote area near a place called Arvidsjaur which is 1,200km north of here like that. Starting with trams to a sleeper train to a buss to those on demand busses, I think it took about 16 hours in total.

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  • [+] 17 points 6 months ago* (2 children)
  • [–] 23 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    This is why we have trade protectionism - tariffs, "made in X" laws, etc. - to ensure capitalists can continue to generate maximized profits, rather than having to compete with Chinese-made cars.

    The oft-quoted argument is "well, we need to protect jobs" - well, tax the rich and subsidize it then, if those jobs are so important. Why should the working class pay the cost of protecting jobs (ensuring ongoing production for the benefit of the ruling class) in industries where capitalists continue to maximize profit?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    The United States already subsidizes many industries, the idea that the rich capitalists on top of the auto industry (that has been subsidized through bail outs previously) just cannot compete against the subsidies of China’s industry is just capitalist thinking. And look where that’s gotten us.

    This is not a pro-China post. I’m Canadian. I’m sick of this current world order.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Keep the car prices high, or its taxes and use the profits to fund public transportation?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    What about everyone that's not in a densely populated area?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago*

    That's where Biden's infrastructure bill was supposed to help, but it was gutted and then canceled by the Trump administration. Gotta start somewhere and build. Lotta rural areas in China or Europe. Mercedes once had the seat belt and other luxury cars had radar cruise control and it came to more manufacturers. Things have a way of working out.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Yeah, there are people who are living outside of the city because its affordable... Or, you know, you can plant trees in the yard. However.... Nearest Costco is 100 years away walking, and or you might not make it a couple of blocks during winter.

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  • [–] 57 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (25 children)

    Income comparisons aside, what the fuck is this "journalism"???

    The average new car in the ‌U.S. in March had a list price of $51,456, according to Kelley Blue Book.

    In China, there are more than 200 battery-powered models, including hybrids, for sale at less than the equivalent of $25,000, according to DCar, an information and trading platform.

    Reuters compiled a list of the five best-selling electric vehicles in China that start under $12,000 using ​DCar data.

    Did they deliberately only look at the cheapest cars to compare to the average American car in order to get their headline? Like I could buy 10 shitboxes from the junkyard for the average price of a new car, but that doesn't mean much.

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  • [–] 26 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    Show me how many NEW cars you can buy in the US for less then 25k.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    10 seconds on Google shows 3 under $25k, and 9 under $26k. I spent longer typing this comment than finding cheap cars XD

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago* (5 children)

    And the article lists 5 Chinese-made electric vehicles that are less than half that.

    They would be closer in price if we had made trade agreements that required worker protections consistent with those in the US, instead of trying to bring every country on board with the US' idiotic copyright laws.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    So the headline should read "buys 2 cars in China"? Still a valid criticism.

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  • [–] 24 points 6 months ago* (8 children)

    Wuling Hongguang

    omg it's so cute

    As much as I appreciate the charger "nose", that's a bad place to have it if you park close to the wall

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago

    As much as I appreciate the charger “nose”, that’s a bad place to have it if you park close to the wall

    Chances are because that's such a small car, there would be ample space to park away from a wall and still remain within a standard car footprint.

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  • [+] 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)
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    It's actually a great place to have the charger, I had a Nissan leaf for a number of years and it's great not having to worry about the cord reaching when you're at a public (free) charger.

    I have an ioniq now and the charge port on the back quarter panel is the worst place for it, since almost all pull forward parking spots have a cord that doesn't reach.

    I have to awkwardly back into angled forward spots if I want to use the charger, and most fast chargers on the interstate aren't designed for a back end charge port either, so you kinda have to find a very specific angle to get the car parked to charge.

    The middle front works in almost every situation.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, this comparison is terrible they're purposefully putting an upper limit on price when comparing things. Not to mention that they aren't even looking at features and range of these cars.

    Someone below mentions the "Wuling Hongguang", the top selling car in China apparently. While it's cheap, its max speed is 62mph and it has a range around 75 miles. Like of course that's cheap, and could work in some situations, but that's not comparable to any car sold in the US.

    The more I read into things like this the more I realize that cars are just expensive. Sure China has a wider range of options, but when comparing apples to apples things look more similar than I'd expect.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    my first thought is how many dozen eggs could you get for the average cost of a dozen eggs over here. things don't always measure up one to one. I remember people talking about great electronics being tossed in japan or korea.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    But can't you also buy 5 American cars for the average price of American car? Just buy used 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    you could buy 2 us cars for the average price of a us car (2 of the cheapest us cars). seems that China still has cheaper cars, but this article is biased in the title and article for some reason

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