Too late, damage done.
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Am I gonna get a refund?
Cutting out Call of Duty to bring the price down is smart. The franchise is one of the bug reasons why they bought Activision-Blizzard and missing out on game sales for the subscription probably didn't work out in their favor.
I will be curious if they cut any other franchises out in the future.
Hello, we fucked up, please resubscribe, we promise we won't try to fuck with you again (for at least a few months).
Well, I mean, I don't advocate for anyone to subscribe to Gamepass for a couple different reasons.
But, like...yeah? Like, why would you shit on pricing coming down? That's objectively good for the end consumer. It's always up to each individual to decide if they want to pay, but for anyone who does or is considering, this is a good sign. Unless you exclusively did it for COD I guess, but that's a different issue.
I don't think they're shitting on "pricing coming down". They're shitting on "company raises pricing, faces backlash, promises not to do it again after clearly having no qualms about screwing over consumers".
The point isn't that "prices going down = bad", it's "prices going down ≠ company won't screw you over later"
I wasn't shitting on the price going down. I was shitting on Microsoft. Give it some time, they'll attempt another price increase. GP has had four price changes in seven years of existence (once every year since 2023), I wouldn't bet on this one being the last.
Yeah right -they are realising they fucked up and trying to correct it. It'll be too little too late for many people - but at least they are trying. Most companies seem to pull this shit then double down when they're criticised.
It's a massive drop (7 Dollars less) for Ultimate subscribers for sure, but this is still not cheap in my books. PC subscribers have less of a drop (2.5 Dollars), but it wasn't that expensive compared to Ultimate to begin with. And Call of Duty games won't be added to Ultimate and PC for an entire year. That's a lot.
Not that I care about cod particularly, but you're not kidding. They're yearly releases so that basically means you don't get to play at all until the player base moves to the next one.
Unless the cost of buying an equivalent version of CoD is more than $82 you can just do that and still save money.
It's not that bad, there's usually more than enough of a player base to still easily find games. Honestly I think the newer CoD games are better a year after release. During it's release schedule, they try really hard to sell the battle pass so the weapons you get from going through the battle pass tends to be overpowered and then balanced after the end of the season.
CoD hasn't been worth playing in at least 10 years even if it is free.
Too late. They lost me. I had an uninterrupted Live sub since it was in beta. Had game pass for years. But the price surge was enough to get me to drop it.
The price surge put some more nails in the coffin for me, but my breaking point was firing the team that made Hi-Fi Rush, their ONLY GOTY contender.
Other nails in the coffin came from learning just how much the Azure team does to lick Israel's boots in their genocide.
I can't help but wonder if this was a correction, or intentional sleight of hand.
If the last change never happened, and they just said the price goes up by $3 and COD is no longer included, would anyone be happy about that?
Same situation, but now we're seeing it as a $7 price drop with no COD.
I might switch back to ultimate again, but not until there's something in premium Gamepass that Im really interested in.
According to some analysts, it's because Call of Duty lost $300M in sales after being added to Game Pass. They raised the price to get that money back, people started unsubbing, and now they're backtracking on putting CoD on game pass as a launch title (so they're reducing the cost again).
That was always a weird move to me. CoD and GP are like fundamentally opposed to eachother in how theyre trying to keep customers.
CoD is the game. When you meet a casual and they say "yeah i play xbox" they mean "I play call of duty". They cement this by keeping the file size fucking massive so you cant fit other games. Only reason to have cod on gamepass is to trick fans into thinking "so I only have to pay a little a month and I get cod for free?" When youre milking them for more than it would cost.
Jacking up the price to justify cods existence is possibly the dumbest move available.
Can they release an Xbox live subscription with no games? $120 a year for online is ridiculous
That was their plan all along. They tried to double the price of Gold and received a huge backlash, so they walked the change back, and then merged Gold with GamePass to raise the price again without people noticing. I don't think there's a chance of them going back to the old price point.
You could get a pc and not pay for online play. Just saying.
I have a PC. I only pay for gamepass to play 360 games online. PC doesn’t help me play 360 exclusives online or games that are a risk to play online on PC due to RCE exploits like the 360 era CoDs
No game is good enough to convince me to pay a subscription to play it online. I refused back when WoW came out and I will continue to do so. There are enough exclusives on PC.
If the price of gamepass annoys you and you have a pc maybe you could also find games that don't need it.
How much was it before it was $29.99 a month? 🤔
Looks like it was $19.99 a month until they raised it to $29.99 6 months ago.
Still an extra $3 a month though!
Still too expensive. I am glad to see some companies facing pains for their relentless price gouging.
I couldn’t care less about this. I made the complete switch to Linux a few days ago. Microslop butchered the Xbox brand so bad that I don’t even want to play their games nor pay for their shitty pass anymore
I was hoping they leave it at 30$ so that more people see the model for unsustainable bullshit that it is and it finally dies. They bought it a lifeline, but in the end it's still bad for the end user, bad for devs, and seeing as how they also pulled CoD it was even bad for microsoft.
The price increase got me to drop it, I've since realized I don't miss it. Good business choices there M$FT!
Same. GPU subscriber for years but I tapped out with the last price increase. Discovered I didn't need it so here we are.
Same, the cost bump made me realize I wasn't getting enough value from it.
Same.
Possible I'll pick it back up if there's a worthwhile game on it. But it would take multiple releases to convince me, and I'm more likely to cancel again right after.
I used to just have it on auto-renew. Oh well.
What a joke. Guess they truly were losing way too many customers out of sheer greed.
The only interpretation I can take from this is that the business model is unsustainable, and anyone who sticks with it is just setting themselves up for disappointment down the road.
They're in the stage now where they realized that $30/mo was pricing more people out than they were gaining in profit, so they presumably did their math and settled on their new ceiling price (which is still more expensive than it was this time last year). Only now they're going to try and make up that cost by reducing the quality of the service, starting with removing Call of Duty.
It's not going to stop at just removing Call of Duty. They still have a $7/user/mo deficit to make up for, and I doubt they're going to make that back in new/returning subscribers. Wouldn't surprise me if they decide Elder Scrolls 6 won't be coming to Game Pass at launch either.
Still too much. I'm happier picking up older games from CEX for a tiny fraction of the cost.
Too little too late, Microsoft. You permanently soured me on Gamepass when you hiked it from $20 to $30 in one go.
A lot of damage has already been done. I think they will have to keep this price point for years and add a lot of value to it to rebuild trust.
I'm voting with my wallet. No more PS Plus, no more Gamepass. I'll play my back catalog and pick up games on sale.
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