If you have a well stocked pantry, you can make whatever you want.
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Dude's only posted this twice and is mad people are asking questions for something that hasn't caught on yet.
If you want people to play your game, you have to explain the rules sometimes, and if you're going to dish out rudeness, people aren't going to play with you.
I had a great idea for it but seeing how you treated people asking about how this works put me off.
So clearly you don't understand one of the core principles of cooking- presentation.
Yeah, it's genuinely amazing how badly OP has managed to destroy a fun premise by just being unbelievably toxic.
exactly! I mean, define "well stocked".
to me, a well stocked pantry has soups, canned meats, and other "meal ready" items.
at that point the two main ingredients just become ingredients.
It's a challenge, not a competition. It doesn't need formal rules. Fun, not a contract.
Any rules or explanation at all would be nice, though. In all the time you've spent being uppity to people asking genuine questions, you could have explained what you consider to be a well-stocked pantry a dozen times over.
Use the ingredients shown. Use other things you might have to make that possible. The more detailed the rules the less fun it is.
That sounds like better instructions.
I don't have a pantry nor really grew up with one, so my idea of one is that huge one from The Shining
Pantry: The collective term for the things in your kitchen shelves, cabinets, fridge, freezer and and spice rack.
Why are you saying “anything and everything”… without recognizing how lame your challenge is by saying “anything and everything” ?
Because I'm not saying anything and everything. I'm saying stuff you generally have.
No you’re not!
“The collective term for the things in your kitchen shelves, cabinets, fridge, freezer and and spice rack.” Your words! That’s everything in the house man!
You literally cited anything and everything and later spelled that out. Look, just stop this shit and rephrase the question!
It’s not hard to say “okay make biscuits, but without buttermilk”…
Versus “make anything from your pantry, cupboards, shelves, spice rack, home or storage…but without buttermilk”
Can you not understand the difference? I could make a steak with your question, it’s not a challenge by the very nature of your own words.
Also do you not get a vibe from the sheer failure of a challenge this is? How many good recipes have you got in the comments, compared to folks reacting with… “what the fuck is so weird with this?”
"You literally cited anything and everything"
I used phrases like "a well stocked pantry." "Things you might have on hand." And the contents of your kitchen.
At no time did I explicitly or implicitly state everything or anything.
This isn't about the excepts. This is about the featured ingredients plus whatever you happen to normally have around. Do you normally have buttermilk? Is buttermilk easy enough for you to get? Use it. This isn't "cook a specific thing without some key ingredient." This is use what's here with the regular stuff you keep around.
You want steak? How would you make steak with barley? That's the challenge.
I got more people actually telling what they would make than people complaining.
Quick scan of the starting comment threads Number of people that offered up what they would make: 17 Number of others with questions/complaints: 6 One question about the cutting board. One question about the color of the pepper.
It seems the majority had no trouble.
Dude please stop.
Everyone can see through this and it’s getting tiring…
How would I make steak without barley? Are you seriously asking this with a straight face? You are not making sense, stop now as you sound horrible.
You want to make a better cooking challenge then take a step back and think. Stop unleashing on the internet like this…
I’m sorry you feel this way but please understand all this could be avoided if you just expressed yourself better.
All this shit you’re currently trying to argue, you didn’t before and you aren’t properly now.
Just stop for your own sake…
I think the issue that people, including myself, are having, is that it's undefined in such a way that is simultaneously too open-ended and also too restricted. Different people have wildly different pantry stocks and wildly different expectations for what is conventionally expected or keep on hand.
This is all extra so, when the question is for a fucking bell pepper and some barley. You could be anything from a farmer, to a chef, to a crazy person who doesn't have black pepper and only eats canned hamburgers and pisses in bottles.
You need to realize that the notion of this question is deeply flawed, and that you can maybe try to compromise by just allowing everybody chef-show type freedom where as long as they use and feature these ingredients, or like just go rule-of-cool and let it breathe.
This all being said, I truly don't care, I'm just trying to interpret where the top level comment may be coming from, because I've thought about these challenges before and held off because I know people can be difficult.
Personally.... I'd probably see if I could deep fry or roast the barley to get it sweet, soft, and crispy, and spice it with like a light butter coating, and then mix that with slices of the bell pepper for finger food or a snack. Though, I've never had barley like that, so I don't know what it tastes like or if it's bitter or what cooking it would do, that's just my instinct. Maybe try to find a dip that would synergize them. Probably try to avoid ranch though, that's overdone and basic af
I want to encourage people to cook. I want them to think about what they stock to cook with. I intentionally left what's in the pantry open exactly because there is so much variation. I keep emergency goat cheese on hand. Others keep nori. What do they have or normally have that they can use to make a meal out of the featured ingredients.
I don't want to have an endless list of restrictions. I don't want to tell people what they should have in their kitchen. That removes all the fun. It's people, their foods, the featured ingredients, their imagination.
Okay. So what's in there?
Challenge: “do something with a well stocked pantry”
What’s the challenge? Are you sure you don’t mean: “create a dish with no limitations but focus on X ingredient.”
Don’t be so vague. If you know cooking… then uh… “a well stocked pantry” = anything…
no guidelines? great!
I'll just make a steak and baked potato with steamed broccoli.
the best challenges have zero guidelines.
Then why are you being a jerk to people? If there's no rules but people ask for clarification about things that doesn't mean you should be rude to them. You can do better than that.
The rules are at the bare minimum. 17 people had no problem with the concept. 6 people did decided they needed more rules. Despite the complaints about a lack of rigid and formalized rules that sounds like a success. I responded to rudeness with rudeness using the tit for tat rules of game theory. I can only do as good as I can do. It's a tautological certainty.
Nah man people just ask a simple question and you serve cunt. They aren't even being rude. Social interactions aren't beholden to game theory and rudeness doesn't have anything to do with that.
You're floundering trying to justify being an asshole, and the ratio seems to agree.
If you can't do better then do us a favor and go away.
The first person to respond negatively said they would make steak without the barley that is the required ingredient because if they had a well stocked pantry they wouldn't bother with the barley.
Does that set the stage for you to understand where things went south?
Stuffed pepper soup with barley instead of rice
I'm thinking a tomato sauce base? What kind of seasoning?
For a tomato based sauce I'd use basil, oregano and garlic, pinch of sugar and a little heavy on black pepper. For a chicken stock based broth I'd go sausage and salt and pepper for flavor and seasoning
Fennel seed with the cooked barley would somewhat mimic Italian sausage if this is a vegetarian application.
You could use that as a base for a porketta styled soup
I was considering saying this in the last one, but I think it might be good, or at least make for a fun discussion thread, to get into what makes a well stocked pantry.
I'd change from 'well stocked' to what is in your pantry.
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Easy mode : What is in your dream pantry.
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Normal Mode : What is in your pantry after a typical trip grocery shopping.
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Hard Mode : What is in your pantry right now (pics or it didn't happen).
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Nightmare : Only items in your pantry you haven't used in the last 2 weeks.
lol, you should see my pantry. I cook foods that have originated from all over the world. I have way too many "basic" ingredients stocked at all times.
Just a couple of days ago, I started to make a Thai curry, and then I was shocked to find that we were out of coconut milk. How can we be out of coconut milk?! We always have coconut milk!
So, I made a Japanese curry instead.
Also, having survived a natural disaster has left me with a tendency to hoard food. All of my cabinets are jam packed at all times. My house is the place to be if the next Big One hits and they are no groceries available.
Yeah. A well stocked pantry could be anything from oil, salt and spices to like condensed milk, noodles, other vegetables or even prepped sauces.
My proposal below for different rulesets depending on how much of a challenge you want.
Hard mode: Only the very basics
Water, table salt, neutral cooking oil, white sugar, white vinegar
Normal mode: Non-perishables only
Dried stuff (beans, white rice, pasta, mushrooms, flour, starches), honey, spirits
Includes the very basics.
Normal mode: Staples only (perishable or non-perishable)
There may be certain items that you would purchase with most grocery trips to ensure you always have some on hand. Only consider sets of items that are very cheap where you're located (or at least, somewhere on earth). As an example, I might include milk, eggs, garlic, and onion. List the ingredients that you consider to be staples.
Includes the very basics
Easy mode
Just come up with something tasty that includes the required ingredients.
The problem is that not everybody would agree with what you consider to be basic. To me, you would absolutely have to include soy sauce, for example. And I mostly use white vinegar for cleaning. Replace that with rice wine vinegar, however....
The point of the basics list is that they're isolated components covering different tastes. One salty (NaCl), one sweet (sucrose), one acidic (acetic acid).* If your proposed dish isn't flexible with regards to the type of salt/sugar/acid, then I don't think it fits the bill for this category.
* I considered an umami too (msg), but I had a feeling that's less accessible compared to the others. Maybe that's just my Western bias though.
Succession: Just call the first two Nightmare Mode and Hard Mode. That way you don't have two Normal Modes.
I have thought about doing posts on that. There is a problem of regionalness. My pantry in Lesser Carolina is very different from my pantry in San Diego. But there are strategies of stocking a pantry. That are universal that people can find useful.
One thing I had to adjust is potatoes. In San Diego I could buy a 10 pound bag of potatoes and it could last two months. Here in the humidity of The South a 5 pound bag will start sprouting in two weeks.
I never had pantry moths in San Diego. But here everything that can be moth food has to be put into moth proof containers.
Sample pantry shelf picture for tax.

Idk, I'm feeling lazy, risotto?
Saute some mushrooms, bell pepper, onion, then fermented bean paste in the instantpot, throw the barely and broth in, cook high pressure like 10 minutes, throw mix of milk+parm in to thicken, if I didn't use fermented bean paste earlier, maybe miso paste with the mix, stir as it cools and thickens.
Nicely detailed.
Though with that user name I fully expect something fermented.
@FauxPseudo barley soup, bell pepper added along with whatever other vegetables I have. Onions and garlic, whatever was on sale. Frozen ones when I have them, but we don't have a lot of freezer space. Whatever frozen protein is currently there-chicken, beef chunks when on sale.That's....a lot....of barley, though. Like...I made the mistake of using a bag of barley once. I have now learned to...not do that.
When I bought the bag I assumed it would probably take 8 meals to use the whole thing. I could use that whole bag making a gallon of beer. But for meals that's a lot of barley.
Move the barley, I need to scan the end grain to see where the QR code goes.
It takes you to the spawn point after a loud boom.

I'm trying not to go back to spawn until after the mods ban Donald Trump for camping it.
... you have a well stocked pantry. So I guess we are having tacos and then some beer made from barley?
I've never had roasted barley outside of barley tea, so not sure if I'll get the flavors right, but I'm thinking hearty salad. Roast a pan of bell pepper and kabocha (or similar squash) with a clove of garlic. Cook/drain a little toasted barley (not a ton, just a pleasant amount for texture/flavor) while that's in the oven. Greens, roasted veg, cooked barley, conveniently leftover chicken, thin-sliced green onion, sprinkle of dried cranberries. Roast garlic goes in the vinaigrette.
"Well-stocked pantry" is a bit vague, IMO, but probably stuffed peppers. Filling would be barley and some kinds of beans or lentils, in a tomato sauce (ideally I also have some balsamic vinegar to add to the sauce), which seems safe to assume for a well stocked pantry. Ideally I'd be able to add some rehydrated dried mushrooms and chopped walnuts as a faux 'ground beef,' add appropriate Italian seasonings, then top with a vegan parm (almond flour + garlic powder + nutritional yeast are pantry staples for me, at least), some salt and pepper, and a drizzle of EVOO.
Hmm. Maybe I'd make chilled barley tea with the toasted barley, and a simple chickpea salad with slices of bell pepper to accompany it -- or, alternatively, hummus with the bellpepper to dip in it. Would be good for hot weather.
If the weather's cold, maybe lentil and barley soup with the bellpepper added in as an extra ingredient along with any other veggies I have on hand that seem like they'd be good in a soup. (Edit: Maybe experiment with the Cajun "Holy Trinity" -- celery, bell pepper, onion -- as the base? I haven't tried that for lentil barley soup before, but might be interesting.)
Split poached shrimp/pepper coulis/barley crumble/basil/a good oil.
I think peppers and barley are rough. The lob is to puree the peppers or bake the barley into something… or both. Like me. To be honest I’m probably adding corn to that crumble.
A barley pepper bread. Rough blend the barley and mix it with flour to make a 'seedy style dough', try out the pepper in the oven a bit and use to top the bread. Add some garlic and spice. Make it a high ish hydration dough with medium oil.
Is the hard mode that there isn't enough nutritional value to sustain me until the next meal, or is the well stocked kitchen going to provide me actual fat and protein?
If you don't understand how a cooking challenge works you can just keep scrolling. I don't pester you about circle jerk etiquette.
I literally could not survive on meals like that at my size.
Your cooking "challenge" may well be butter and small sticks.
What meal did you envision that includes, but is not limited to, those two ingredients?
I totally get the concern on calories. What if you boiled the barley, and added it to some canned tomato sauce, chili powder and ground beef to create a chili? Use the pepper with some onion as your sauted veg base for the chili. All your nutrients and calories and both ingredients used.
At this point the challenge is basically meaningless.
If I can literally select anything that I want to go with an ingredient or two there's unlimited possibilities.
Those ingredients you've listed have literally become meaningless based on the lacking constraints of the problem.
Thanks for your fun challenge idea! It is nice to see what others would do and get ideas outside your own normal "box". I love me a good barley risotto! So I would go pepper/carrot/onion for vegi saute, then add barley and cook a bit in the oil only, then add some more olive oil for good measure, add some broth or water (no broth right now, so water at the moment), and bake for 40 minutes or so. Then stir in cheese! I am not familiar with this barley, does it require any prep in any way to use? Perhaps this is not really risotto...more barley-vegi casserole in one pot?
Stir-fry, probably. Onions, mushrooms, the pepper, some spices, some sesame oil. Fry it up. Toss in the barley and some soup stock. Simmer a bit to hydrate. Then see how it tastes and adjust. Maybe finish with a few eggs and scramble.
What makes this a hard challenge if I can just use what I normally have in the pantry to make what I normally make, and then just incorporate toasted barley and a pepper in some way?
You are the one deciding to make what you normally make and incorporate barley. You could have decided, like some here, to make something entirely different from your norm. Something that challenged you.

I get that it's my decision, but what about the explicit rules makes it hard? The only things that make it hard are limitations we set upon ourselves, which is a valid challenge and encourage growth and creativity... but has nothing to do with the rules you are setting.
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