You have roasted barley, an orange bell pepper and a well-stocked pantry. What are you making?

This is a hard mode challenge.

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[–] 134 points 6 months ago (20 children)

If you have a well stocked pantry, you can make whatever you want.

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  • [+] [S] -68 points 6 months ago (19 children)

    Please show that you understand the assignment.

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  • [–] 95 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    Please show me that you know how to create clear constraints on an assignment.

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  • [+] [S] -61 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    This is a group for good faith conversations about cooking. Are you interested in that or would you rather be removed from it?

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  • [–] 54 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Your challenge was 'you have a lot of different food, what do you make?' and clarified nothing else and got called out for being unclear. Now you have the choice to say 'oh you're right, I was unclear, sorry I meant xxx' instead you double down and say 'well I understood what I meant, how about I ban you for daring to disagree with me'.

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  • [+] [S] -25 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    The more rigid the less fun.
    It's just like the challenge based cooking shows.
    Use the star ingredients.
    You can use other ingredients to make that happen.

    This is a project of imagination and resourcefulness. I'm not going to put together a list of every ingredient you should have in a pantry because that's going to vary from area to area. If you don't know what's in your pantry you can literally go to your kitchen and see what other ingredients you have.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Okay, you continue to miss the point and I'm not sure if you're doing it on purpose or not so I'll make it as simple and clear as possible:

    You said the challenge was hard mode because you had a well stocked pantry and some other stuff and asked what you could make. You were told you could make almost anything with a well stocked pantry and got upset that nobody understood what you meant. You were told politely that you could have been more clear, you continued to get upset and blame others. All you had to do was clarify and not blame everyone else and everyone (including you) would have been happy.

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I said the challenge was hard because barley and peppers are two flavors that normally are put together and barley is not an ingredient a lot of people have experienced with.

    The first response where I was upset was because they said if they had a well stocked pantry they wouldn't even use the ingredients shown. That defeats the entire purpose of the challenge.

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  • [–] 27 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I'm gonna agree with the other comments here; I like the idea of this challenge a lot, but the rules are so poorly explained that I can't begin to guess at what you're actually looking for. Your post said this is "hard mode" which lead me to assume absolutely minimal other ingredients - presumably nothing perishable - but now you're saying we've got the full Iron Chef kitchen to play with? That's very confusing.

    The idea is cool. I really hope you'll update the post with some more info, and that you'll do more of these. For my two cents, I think it's a more interesting challenge if we're working with some kind of restriction like only non-perishables plus milk, eggs and butter (maybe some basic cheeses?). I like the "Fuck, this is all you have in the kitchen, the stores are closed and you're trying to impress your crush with a fancy meal" kind of challenge mode. But that's just me. It's your party. Just, y'know, actually tell us what the dress code is.

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  • [+] [S] -16 points 6 months ago

    Use the ingredients that are posted. Use other ingredients you're likely to have around the house to make that possible . Just lit every other cooking show.

    It's supposed to be fun. It's not supposed to be a bunch of rules lawyers who can't cook deciding to make up excuses. It doesn't need more rules. It needs people who have ideas on how to turn the ....

    Wait. Is this one of those "kids today can't function without explicit detailed instructions. They are afraid to try anything that they don't know the results of in advance. They refuse to take chances" situations? Because it's sounding exactly like that.

    If you can't figure out how to turn the ingredients into food then read the comments of those who can or keep scrolling. It's not rocket science.

    If you want to create your own challenge then go for it. It's a community. Anyone can post food related topics.

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  • [–] 35 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Kinda with the commenter. A well stocked pantry just means you can make pretty much anything. If you specified the pantry contents, perhaps it would be more of a challenge.

    I could make a sponge cake, or sushi, or curry, or ice cream, with these ingredients and my pantry. :)

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  • [+] [S] -29 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Have you seen the shows Iron Chef or Chopped? Cooking challenges have pretty basic rules. You have to feature the selected ingredients. What you do with them is up to your skill and vision. If you could ignore the featured ingredients then there would be no point in playing.

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  • [–] 23 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    You didn't say anything about this being based on "Chopped".

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  • [+] [S] -15 points 6 months ago

    I didn't say anything about it being based on Iron Chef either. Because it's not based on either one. It's based on the idea that those shows are based on. You have ingredients that need to be turned into a meal. You can use other common ingredients to make that happen.

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  • [–] 44 points 6 months ago (25 children)

    Dude's only posted this twice and is mad people are asking questions for something that hasn't caught on yet.

    If you want people to play your game, you have to explain the rules sometimes, and if you're going to dish out rudeness, people aren't going to play with you.

    I had a great idea for it but seeing how you treated people asking about how this works put me off.

    So clearly you don't understand one of the core principles of cooking- presentation.

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  • [+] [S] -26 points 6 months ago (22 children)

    It's a challenge, not a competition. It doesn't need formal rules. Fun, not a contract.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (14 children)

    Any rules or explanation at all would be nice, though. In all the time you've spent being uppity to people asking genuine questions, you could have explained what you consider to be a well-stocked pantry a dozen times over.

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  • [+] [S] -11 points 6 months ago (13 children)

    Use the ingredients shown. Use other things you might have to make that possible. The more detailed the rules the less fun it is.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    That sounds like better instructions.

    I don't have a pantry nor really grew up with one, so my idea of one is that huge one from The Shining

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  • [+] [S] -10 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    Pantry: The collective term for the things in your kitchen shelves, cabinets, fridge, freezer and and spice rack.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Why are you saying “anything and everything”… without recognizing how lame your challenge is by saying “anything and everything” ?

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  • [+] [S] -6 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    Because I'm not saying anything and everything. I'm saying stuff you generally have.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    No you’re not!

    “The collective term for the things in your kitchen shelves, cabinets, fridge, freezer and and spice rack.” Your words! That’s everything in the house man!

    You literally cited anything and everything and later spelled that out. Look, just stop this shit and rephrase the question!

    It’s not hard to say “okay make biscuits, but without buttermilk”…

    Versus “make anything from your pantry, cupboards, shelves, spice rack, home or storage…but without buttermilk”

    Can you not understand the difference? I could make a steak with your question, it’s not a challenge by the very nature of your own words.

    Also do you not get a vibe from the sheer failure of a challenge this is? How many good recipes have you got in the comments, compared to folks reacting with… “what the fuck is so weird with this?”

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

    "You literally cited anything and everything"

    I used phrases like "a well stocked pantry." "Things you might have on hand." And the contents of your kitchen.

    At no time did I explicitly or implicitly state everything or anything.

    This isn't about the excepts. This is about the featured ingredients plus whatever you happen to normally have around. Do you normally have buttermilk? Is buttermilk easy enough for you to get? Use it. This isn't "cook a specific thing without some key ingredient." This is use what's here with the regular stuff you keep around.

    You want steak? How would you make steak with barley? That's the challenge.

    I got more people actually telling what they would make than people complaining.

    Quick scan of the starting comment threads Number of people that offered up what they would make: 17 Number of others with questions/complaints: 6 One question about the cutting board. One question about the color of the pepper.

    It seems the majority had no trouble.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    How would I make steak without barley? Are you seriously asking this with a straight face? You are not making sense, stop now as you sound horrible.

    You want to make a better cooking challenge then take a step back and think. Stop unleashing on the internet like this…

    I’m sorry you feel this way but please understand all this could be avoided if you just expressed yourself better.

    All this shit you’re currently trying to argue, you didn’t before and you aren’t properly now.

    Just stop for your own sake…

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I think the issue that people, including myself, are having, is that it's undefined in such a way that is simultaneously too open-ended and also too restricted. Different people have wildly different pantry stocks and wildly different expectations for what is conventionally expected or keep on hand.

    This is all extra so, when the question is for a fucking bell pepper and some barley. You could be anything from a farmer, to a chef, to a crazy person who doesn't have black pepper and only eats canned hamburgers and pisses in bottles.

    You need to realize that the notion of this question is deeply flawed, and that you can maybe try to compromise by just allowing everybody chef-show type freedom where as long as they use and feature these ingredients, or like just go rule-of-cool and let it breathe.

    This all being said, I truly don't care, I'm just trying to interpret where the top level comment may be coming from, because I've thought about these challenges before and held off because I know people can be difficult.

    Personally.... I'd probably see if I could deep fry or roast the barley to get it sweet, soft, and crispy, and spice it with like a light butter coating, and then mix that with slices of the bell pepper for finger food or a snack. Though, I've never had barley like that, so I don't know what it tastes like or if it's bitter or what cooking it would do, that's just my instinct. Maybe try to find a dip that would synergize them. Probably try to avoid ranch though, that's overdone and basic af

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 6 months ago

    I want to encourage people to cook. I want them to think about what they stock to cook with. I intentionally left what's in the pantry open exactly because there is so much variation. I keep emergency goat cheese on hand. Others keep nori. What do they have or normally have that they can use to make a meal out of the featured ingredients.

    I don't want to have an endless list of restrictions. I don't want to tell people what they should have in their kitchen. That removes all the fun. It's people, their foods, the featured ingredients, their imagination.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    Challenge: “do something with a well stocked pantry”

    What’s the challenge? Are you sure you don’t mean: “create a dish with no limitations but focus on X ingredient.”

    Don’t be so vague. If you know cooking… then uh… “a well stocked pantry” = anything…

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Then why are you being a jerk to people? If there's no rules but people ask for clarification about things that doesn't mean you should be rude to them. You can do better than that.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    The rules are at the bare minimum. 17 people had no problem with the concept. 6 people did decided they needed more rules. Despite the complaints about a lack of rigid and formalized rules that sounds like a success. I responded to rudeness with rudeness using the tit for tat rules of game theory. I can only do as good as I can do. It's a tautological certainty.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Nah man people just ask a simple question and you serve cunt. They aren't even being rude. Social interactions aren't beholden to game theory and rudeness doesn't have anything to do with that.

    You're floundering trying to justify being an asshole, and the ratio seems to agree.

    If you can't do better then do us a favor and go away.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The first person to respond negatively said they would make steak without the barley that is the required ingredient because if they had a well stocked pantry they wouldn't bother with the barley.

    Does that set the stage for you to understand where things went south?

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  • [–] 25 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Stuffed pepper soup with barley instead of rice

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    I'm thinking a tomato sauce base? What kind of seasoning?

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    For a tomato based sauce I'd use basil, oregano and garlic, pinch of sugar and a little heavy on black pepper. For a chicken stock based broth I'd go sausage and salt and pepper for flavor and seasoning

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Fennel seed with the cooked barley would somewhat mimic Italian sausage if this is a vegetarian application.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    I was considering saying this in the last one, but I think it might be good, or at least make for a fun discussion thread, to get into what makes a well stocked pantry.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    I'd change from 'well stocked' to what is in your pantry.

    • Easy mode : What is in your dream pantry.

    • Normal Mode : What is in your pantry after a typical trip grocery shopping.

    • Hard Mode : What is in your pantry right now (pics or it didn't happen).

    • Nightmare : Only items in your pantry you haven't used in the last 2 weeks.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    lol, you should see my pantry. I cook foods that have originated from all over the world. I have way too many "basic" ingredients stocked at all times.

    Just a couple of days ago, I started to make a Thai curry, and then I was shocked to find that we were out of coconut milk. How can we be out of coconut milk?! We always have coconut milk!

    So, I made a Japanese curry instead.

    Also, having survived a natural disaster has left me with a tendency to hoard food. All of my cabinets are jam packed at all times. My house is the place to be if the next Big One hits and they are no groceries available.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    My proposal below for different rulesets depending on how much of a challenge you want.

    Hard mode: Only the very basics

    Water, table salt, neutral cooking oil, white sugar, white vinegar

    Normal mode: Non-perishables only

    Dried stuff (beans, white rice, pasta, mushrooms, flour, starches), honey, spirits

    Includes the very basics.

    Normal mode: Staples only (perishable or non-perishable)

    There may be certain items that you would purchase with most grocery trips to ensure you always have some on hand. Only consider sets of items that are very cheap where you're located (or at least, somewhere on earth). As an example, I might include milk, eggs, garlic, and onion. List the ingredients that you consider to be staples.

    Includes the very basics

    Easy mode

    Just come up with something tasty that includes the required ingredients.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The problem is that not everybody would agree with what you consider to be basic. To me, you would absolutely have to include soy sauce, for example. And I mostly use white vinegar for cleaning. Replace that with rice wine vinegar, however....

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    The point of the basics list is that they're isolated components covering different tastes. One salty (NaCl), one sweet (sucrose), one acidic (acetic acid).* If your proposed dish isn't flexible with regards to the type of salt/sugar/acid, then I don't think it fits the bill for this category.

    * I considered an umami too (msg), but I had a feeling that's less accessible compared to the others. Maybe that's just my Western bias though.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 6 months ago

    I have thought about doing posts on that. There is a problem of regionalness. My pantry in Lesser Carolina is very different from my pantry in San Diego. But there are strategies of stocking a pantry. That are universal that people can find useful.

    One thing I had to adjust is potatoes. In San Diego I could buy a 10 pound bag of potatoes and it could last two months. Here in the humidity of The South a 5 pound bag will start sprouting in two weeks.

    I never had pantry moths in San Diego. But here everything that can be moth food has to be put into moth proof containers.

    Sample pantry shelf picture for tax.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Idk, I'm feeling lazy, risotto?

    Saute some mushrooms, bell pepper, onion, then fermented bean paste in the instantpot, throw the barely and broth in, cook high pressure like 10 minutes, throw mix of milk+parm in to thicken, if I didn't use fermented bean paste earlier, maybe miso paste with the mix, stir as it cools and thickens.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    @FauxPseudo barley soup, bell pepper added along with whatever other vegetables I have. Onions and garlic, whatever was on sale. Frozen ones when I have them, but we don't have a lot of freezer space. Whatever frozen protein is currently there-chicken, beef chunks when on sale.That's....a lot....of barley, though. Like...I made the mistake of using a bag of barley once. I have now learned to...not do that.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    When I bought the bag I assumed it would probably take 8 meals to use the whole thing. I could use that whole bag making a gallon of beer. But for meals that's a lot of barley.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Move the barley, I need to scan the end grain to see where the QR code goes.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    It takes you to the spawn point after a loud boom.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I'm trying not to go back to spawn until after the mods ban Donald Trump for camping it.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    Pepper and barley soup all day long.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    ... you have a well stocked pantry. So I guess we are having tacos and then some beer made from barley?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    I've never had roasted barley outside of barley tea, so not sure if I'll get the flavors right, but I'm thinking hearty salad. Roast a pan of bell pepper and kabocha (or similar squash) with a clove of garlic. Cook/drain a little toasted barley (not a ton, just a pleasant amount for texture/flavor) while that's in the oven. Greens, roasted veg, cooked barley, conveniently leftover chicken, thin-sliced green onion, sprinkle of dried cranberries. Roast garlic goes in the vinaigrette.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    "Well-stocked pantry" is a bit vague, IMO, but probably stuffed peppers. Filling would be barley and some kinds of beans or lentils, in a tomato sauce (ideally I also have some balsamic vinegar to add to the sauce), which seems safe to assume for a well stocked pantry. Ideally I'd be able to add some rehydrated dried mushrooms and chopped walnuts as a faux 'ground beef,' add appropriate Italian seasonings, then top with a vegan parm (almond flour + garlic powder + nutritional yeast are pantry staples for me, at least), some salt and pepper, and a drizzle of EVOO.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    But that's toasted barley.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    Hmm. Maybe I'd make chilled barley tea with the toasted barley, and a simple chickpea salad with slices of bell pepper to accompany it -- or, alternatively, hummus with the bellpepper to dip in it. Would be good for hot weather.

    If the weather's cold, maybe lentil and barley soup with the bellpepper added in as an extra ingredient along with any other veggies I have on hand that seem like they'd be good in a soup. (Edit: Maybe experiment with the Cajun "Holy Trinity" -- celery, bell pepper, onion -- as the base? I haven't tried that for lentil barley soup before, but might be interesting.)

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Split poached shrimp/pepper coulis/barley crumble/basil/a good oil.

    I think peppers and barley are rough. The lob is to puree the peppers or bake the barley into something… or both. Like me. To be honest I’m probably adding corn to that crumble.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Roasted pepper soup

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    A barley pepper bread. Rough blend the barley and mix it with flour to make a 'seedy style dough', try out the pepper in the oven a bit and use to top the bread. Add some garlic and spice. Make it a high ish hydration dough with medium oil.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Is the hard mode that there isn't enough nutritional value to sustain me until the next meal, or is the well stocked kitchen going to provide me actual fat and protein?

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  • [+] [S] -32 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    If you don't understand how a cooking challenge works you can just keep scrolling. I don't pester you about circle jerk etiquette.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I literally could not survive on meals like that at my size.

    Your cooking "challenge" may well be butter and small sticks.

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  • [+] [S] -6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    What meal did you envision that includes, but is not limited to, those two ingredients?

    I totally get the concern on calories. What if you boiled the barley, and added it to some canned tomato sauce, chili powder and ground beef to create a chili? Use the pepper with some onion as your sauted veg base for the chili. All your nutrients and calories and both ingredients used.

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  • At this point the challenge is basically meaningless.

    If I can literally select anything that I want to go with an ingredient or two there's unlimited possibilities.

    Those ingredients you've listed have literally become meaningless based on the lacking constraints of the problem.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Thanks for your fun challenge idea! It is nice to see what others would do and get ideas outside your own normal "box". I love me a good barley risotto! So I would go pepper/carrot/onion for vegi saute, then add barley and cook a bit in the oil only, then add some more olive oil for good measure, add some broth or water (no broth right now, so water at the moment), and bake for 40 minutes or so. Then stir in cheese! I am not familiar with this barley, does it require any prep in any way to use? Perhaps this is not really risotto...more barley-vegi casserole in one pot?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    Stir-fry, probably. Onions, mushrooms, the pepper, some spices, some sesame oil. Fry it up. Toss in the barley and some soup stock. Simmer a bit to hydrate. Then see how it tastes and adjust. Maybe finish with a few eggs and scramble.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    What makes this a hard challenge if I can just use what I normally have in the pantry to make what I normally make, and then just incorporate toasted barley and a pepper in some way?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    You are the one deciding to make what you normally make and incorporate barley. You could have decided, like some here, to make something entirely different from your norm. Something that challenged you.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I get that it's my decision, but what about the explicit rules makes it hard? The only things that make it hard are limitations we set upon ourselves, which is a valid challenge and encourage growth and creativity... but has nothing to do with the rules you are setting.

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