Courage (sopuli.xyz)
submitted 7 months ago by to c/memes@lemmy.world
 

top 100 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] 68 points 6 months ago (20 children)

He's not wrong. It'll be a really shitty journey as it's just voluntary homelessness, but you can choose to live as a hobo if you're brave enough. And if you're brave enough you can cross borders without permission. Not a good idea at all, lots of walking, hunger, sleeping outside, and hiding from authorities, but hey, you can.

  • source
  • hideshow 20 child comments
  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Hobo sort of implies a migrant worker. Tramp is someone that travels about, but isn't interested in working. Both used to be associated with freighthopping trains. Do people stowaway on trains anymore?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    I have to assume some people still hop trains. At the very least some crust punk squatter types probably do

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (5 children)

    There's nowhere to go on a train tho. They're all tanks and shipping containers.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    I assume train hoppers have tricks to get inside boxcars. Also there are different types of cars besides tank cars and boxcars, like coil cars:

    And open-top hopper cars:

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    That's my point, I never see boxcars anywhere.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    When you say shipping containers, do you mean these guys?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • load more comments (-1 replies)
  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Hitchhiking and couch surfing is a thing.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I don’t think that is “travel” in the spirit of the discussion.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    It's not travel in your (and to be honest, most people in the comments) preferred version. The OP never mentioned luxuries, or even comfort. The point is that if what you really want to travel, you most probably can, independent of your financial situation.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I get it that s/he is technically correct. I think that was pretty clear in my statement.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    My point is: it's not technically correct, it's just plain correct. Plenty of people I know go for cycling tours of Europe, packing food and sleeping in tents. Some do two weeks hiking.

    Travel is not only flying to the other end of the world and eating fancy food cooked for you by hired chefs... you can travel basically free if you adjust your expectations.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 30 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

    No no no, it's the courage to leave without caring about losing all your worldly possessions 🙃

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 97 points 7 months ago* (5 children)

    In the USA all we have to do is tell ICE that we are not a citizen and bam, all-expenses-paid vacation at some random spot in the world.

    Tip to the wise: to facilitate re-entry when you are done, simply ensure that your passport is stored securely in your "travel wallet".

  • source
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Brave of you to assume they wouldn't accuse you of forging the passport with some twisted logic to keep you out of the country

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    One of the greatest propaganda pieces, that is usually not perceived as such intentionally, is that anything having to do with penalties from justice systems is free. Penal justice usually do have statutes of free services, judge time and free legal counseling, but most other tribunals and also a lot of the penalties involved incur financial costs and debt into the convicted. House arrest, you either pay for the ankle tracker or a fine for the officer's hourly pay; mandatory anger management, mental health counseling, etc, you are footing the bill; civil damages, win or lose, attorney times have to be paid; deportation, the receiving country is billed for the plane ticket, room and food during travel, which usually they pass down to you; in the US, convicts have to work in order to access anything that is not basic care (food, water and electricity), usually for slavery wages. And a long list of etceteras.

    The cliché of getting yourself arrested for a misdemeanor being cheaper than paying rent and food sounds quirky fun, until the reality of fines and fees of the associated process come through. Justice systems are mostly poverty manufacturing systems.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    It's a difficult balance. Imagine you have a child that you bring with you on the plane and it being too young, cries throughout the entire flight. One action, one decision - and not by the child, obviously - impacts everyone around you.

    Politicians tap into that innate sense of "hey, that's not fair!" to deliver whatever gives themselves the highest gains. Some want to uphold the status quo, others want to improve it, still others want to tear it all down and start fresh.

    Ironically what I hear most often from tankies is that they agree with how Donald Trump is doing things (since I started us talking about specifically the USA in my original comment), and want him to dial the actions up even further.

    So... it gets highly complex, real quickly.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 50 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Have the courage to pay in other ways.

  • source
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 59 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    Only rich people say stupid shit like this.

  • source
  • hideshow 12 child comments
  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (11 children)

    Only stupid, rich people say stupid stuff like this.

    Edit: added comma.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 11 child comments
  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    I'm convinced that people with excessive levels of wealth have fewer brain synapses than the rest of us living real lives of constant work & negotiating & constantly coming up with creative survival strategies.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    have you tried just asking your parents for spare money??

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    I'm 50 years old and my parents are dead.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I sincerely believe that being rich is bad some kinds of intelligence You don't have to deal with problems. You just brute force your way through with money. You don't have to practice restraint and delayed gratification. You can just buy the thing now.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 47 points 6 months ago (3 children)
    1. Go out your front door.

    2. Keep walking.

    3. ?

    4. Joy.

  • source
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago*

    Poor sod seems to lack the courage to sneak into a cargo hold

  • source
  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    "SIR YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH COURAGE POINTS TO FLY ON BRAVE AIRLINES, you must go to delta. "

  • source
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago

    Just board the plane without paying.

  • source
  • [–] 24 points 7 months ago (19 children)

    A nomadic life can be cheaper than a sedentary one.

  • source
  • hideshow 19 child comments
  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (18 children)

    What do you do, exactly, to earn money for food/clothes in that lifestyle? That has always puzzled me

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 18 child comments
  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago

    People that wander for a living usually live by a combination of charity and payments for odd jobs. For example, a small farmer might gladly part with some old clothes and provide a few meals and a bed in exchange for help with some tasks, and I've heard about people with a preternatural ability to couchsurf from city to city.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    A lot have taken up being digital nomads. Not a bad way to make a living off you can get good Internet access somehow.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    It's pretty easy to find it within a half days journey in most of the world now, most towns and cities will have public WiFi in some form.

    I wish I could live like that, but medication and executive dysfunction makes it impossible. Hopefully in the future.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    Whatever you want to do. Go spend a season helping out ona farm in Hawaii, then go help build an ecovillage in Australia, then spend some time walking around New Zealand washing dishes and bussing tables, then off to India where you'll build rope bridges and tree houses for a sustainable community. After that, you can go to Thailand or Vietnam and teach English for a little while, before making your way into the Mediterranean and spending a year and a half on the island of Bozcaada helping an old man repair out building and herd goats.

    That's literally what my friend did for over 5 years after one day he just decided to leave and had just enough money for a plane ticket to Hawaii from San Diego. Everything else was work and accommodations he found along the way. The only reason he came back was because of covid, and now he's an RN and makes a bunch of money and he hates his life and is in and out of rehab.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 10 child comments
  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I cant get people to pay me enough to live here, how can i rely on charity/people willing to pay me elsewhere? Literally i have no issue working, I just want to make enough money to survive

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago

    Literally just apply to teach English in Asia. Typically the wage is a solid middle class income, and you don't need to know anything about teaching or English.

    You can also look into WWOOFing if you want to explore that.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago* (5 children)

    Try doing that with a passport and the typical access to Education from, say Burkina Faso.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Moving the goalposts. We can assume from context that they are speaking to an audience from developed nations.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    This all started with:

    A nomadic life can be cheaper than a sedentary one.

    To which the previous poster added an example.

    I'm pointing out that there are many other common contexts were things don't at all work like that.

    By that "logic" of yours whenever a Western newspaper publishes a story about something that happened elsewhere in the World, it's "goalpost moving".

    I think you're confusing your own "I don't give a shit about people not like me" mindset with the mindset of the entire audience here.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Eto wi’de noon e ɗemngal laawɗungal leydi Burkinaa.

    But since the rest of the thread is in English, I hope you'll forgive me for thinking of this in the context of predominantly English-speaking countries.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    Well, the reason why I also included "typical access to Education" is that for those from countries whose main language isn't the most often spoken second language in the World, the most common way to learn it is at school.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Yeah, I have a friend. She emancipated herself from her family at 16 and got her GED. Worked nannying and waitresssing jobs when she needed money, but otherwise spent about 5 years traveling the world.

  • source
  • parent
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Lebron must be the bravest person on Earth.

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Can I pay with mental illnesses?
    I'm not out of those, but would gladly transfer them to a financial institution.

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    If you violate enough mobility laws you can get anywhere for free!

  • source
  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Walking is free.

    "But I am in America and want to tour Europe! 😩"

    Swimming is also free.

  • source
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Also, the strait of Bering is not that large.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Technically you can travel all your remaining life without money.

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    or you can't travel because of martial law

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago

    Travel is great if that's your thing. But I've always despised privileged entitled douchebags who use travel as a big flex, and a metric to judge others with.

  • source
  • [+] 11 points 6 months ago (1 child)
  • load more comments
    view more: next ›