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[–] 247 points 7 months ago (37 children)

I can’t tell if this is dementia or his regular poor taste and racism.

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  • [–] 141 points 7 months ago* (24 children)

    I hate Trump. Fuck Trump.

    However, out of all the disgusting and ghastly shit Trump has done and said, this one is not that bad. Poor taste, sure. Racist? Come on. Did you even read it? It was actually witty compared to his typical knuckle dragging bullshit.

    A reporter asked Trump why he didn't tell U.S. allies, including European and Asian countries, such as Japan, that he was planning joint military strikes with Israel on Iran.

    "One thing, you don't want to signal too much when we go in," Trump said. "We went in very hard and we didn't tell anyone about it because we wanted surprise. Who knows better about surprise than Japan? Why didn't you tell me about Pearl Harbor?"

    This guy is a sex predator, pedo who is trying to be a dictator and is taking our democratic rights away. Let's focus on that first. Don't let this petty bullshit be the focus.

    I'll take my downvotes now.

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  • [–] 38 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (13 children)

    I guess he could always do worse and joke about Hiroshima...but I wont give more ideas...

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (11 children)

    He does worse most times he opens his mouth. Calling a woman "piggy" to her face is considerably worse.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    I personally think a Hiroshima reference to Japan's PM is a worse faux pas than calling someone piggy... But, hey, everybody has differing levels of sensitivity i guess.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I agree that's worse morally, but that not worse for the diplomatic relation between two of the worlds biggest economies.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child)

    Yeah but this anecdote betrays his shitty personality. At the end of the day he is an unapologetic child rapist first and foremost, and it's hard to imagine what could surpass that depravity, but these little vignettes help paint the picture for people who have trouble believing the commander-in-chief is also the chomo-in-chief.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago* (5 children)

    I'm sorry but this is terrible diplomacy and diminishes America's soft power on the world stage.

    Yes we're moving into a multipolar world where soft power matters less but narrative building is always relevant and rubbing your allies the wrong way is just terrible strategy from any vantage point.

    Trump's caused so much damage to Western credibity in so little time just by highlighting and widening fault lines at a records pace. This will create a vacuum that others will seek to occupy. This comment may not seem like much but it's another little cut that will slowly bleed away America and the West's standing in the world.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    Has he really damaged Western credibility, or is he only damaging the USA’s credibility? I’ve not seen reports that Trump’s behaviour is impacting how others feel about Canada, France or Germany. Trump’s behaviour really only reflects on the global opinions of the USA, as other countries and their populations are generally intelligent enough to understand that he is only elected by one country; only represents one country; and is only the product of the population of one country.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Many Western countries follow along and act as cheerleaders for US foreign policy. Seven countries (including Canada, France and Germany) have already signed on to help secure the Strait of Hormuz which is only blocked because of yet another US misadventure.

    A lot of these countries are small and in terms of global influence would be middle powers at best if not part of a Western bloc. Trump is slowly eroding the concept of a Western bloc so the idea of collective credibility or collective values is eroding with that.

    Most of the rest of the world sees Western countries as vassals of the US and the question now is will they be able to assert their independence on the world stage or will they simply go along with the US as they often do.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Care to point to any reports that other nations are viewing those other Western countries poorly as a result of Trump’s actions?

    Securing the Strait of Hormuz seems to be self-interested actions by those nations; an attempt to reduce the impact of higher oil prices on their own economies. It’s a far cry from the Western world following the USA into Iraq with boots on the ground 20-odd years ago.

    Trump is eroding the idea of a USA-led Western bloc. Canada’s PM Carney is leading the charge to create new middle-power blocs to establish credibility outside of the USA’s influence. I’m yet to see reports that those measures are being viewed in a negative fashion by the rest of the world, but I’m happy to be corrected.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago*

    It's a matter of perspective. The Global South has always been acutely aware of Western hypocrisy and double standards, often being the victim of its perfidiousness. It's just that the mask seems to be coming off now so the internal contradictions are much more apparent. People like Alexander Stubbe (Finland's president) and Mark Carney understand this. Much of what Mark Carney said in his speech at Davos are perspectives that have been shared by prominent figures in the global south for some time now. He deserves credit for sharing it in a way that is palatable to Westerners. It remains to be seen if, in the abscense of the US as a central stabilizing force, an ex-US Western bloc would be able to maintain its global credibility and influence.

    As the Global South (which makes up 80% of humanity) gains a more prominent voice on the global stage, certain internal contradictions will continue to move into the spotlight and Western credibility will be at risk of further erosion. The question is will the West be able to adapt in real time - acknowledging that the so called 'rules based international order' was never really a fair playing field but a tool to maintain Western hegemony - and take a leadership role in shaping the new world order.

    Stubbe explains this well from a Western perspective in his book The Triangle of Power Rebalancing the New World Order (the triangle referring to the Global West, East and South).

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  • [–] 104 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    If you’re stunned you have not been paying attention to the last ten years.

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  • [–] 56 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    Not to worry. He’s going to be SLAMMED for this. Perhaps even someone will BLAST him. And since journalism is literal Pokémon moves now he might even be CONFUSED or HYPNOTIZED

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  • [–] 90 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    That wasn’t a joke. He was not joking. He’s an abusive asshole.

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  • [–] 32 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    He's a sociopath, no two ways about it. I remember a story his nephew told about bringing his developmentally disabled son (can't remember the exact condition) to the White House and having multiple meetings with Trump about setting up a bill that would benefit Americans, including his own great-nephew. In one of those meetings, after it had all seemed positive, everyone left the room but Trump and his nephew, to whom Trump immediately said "be a lot easier and less expensive if all these disabled kids would just die".

    Sauce

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  • [–] 131 points 7 months ago (13 children)

    Interesting that Trump seems to understand that we "did a pearl harbor" on Iran, but somehow still thinks that we are the "good guys"? He almost got self aware for a second there.

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  • [–] 68 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    He doesn't believe in good guys, he thinks everyone is just as evil as him so it makes his continuous assault on all limits of human decency OK in his mind.

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

    Yup, this is why his accusations are always confessions. Projection is the psychological phenomenon where you refuse to see yourself as bad, so you justify your bad actions with “everyone does bad stuff like this, so it doesn’t make me bad to do them.” But when all of your interactions are colored by that “everyone does bad stuff like this” part, it means you project those bad intentions onto others and default to assuming they’re just as bad as you are. So when he’s accusing people of bad things, it is because he has projected those intentions onto them.

    And Trump’s narcissism refuses to let him do any kind of soul-searching that may lead him to stop projecting. And thus, every accusation is an admission.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    you refuse to see yourself as bad, so you justify your bad actions with “everyone does bad stuff like this”

    I've heard the neat phrase ‘reverse cargo cult’ in regard to such views. Applied to a group of people, though, as cults typically require.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Wow, gotta read that paper now:

    The Reverse Cargo Cult metaphor explains why dictators tell their citizens lies that citizens know to be lies: a verifiable lie told by a politician changes citizens’ perceptions of politicians and reduces their willingness to replace them

    Source: https://bfi.uchicago.edu/working-papers/the-reverse-cargo-cult-why-authoritarian-governments-lie-to-their-people/

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    People in some places are just convinced the rest of the world is just as bad — this is the context in which I've heard the term.

    USians' incessant belief that travelling to other countries is very unsafe is probably one example of this.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Most blatantly with his rambling about 'Americans have to flush 3 times, 5 times'. I thought what the hell is wrong with the water pressure where he lives?

    Then I read that he likely flushed evidence down the toilet. Of course. HE has a problem with destroying evidence in his toilet, so 'Americans' have problems with their toilet. I'm not even sure if he has the ability to differentiate between his problems and anybody elses.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Epstein was his best friend. And the horrific shit that happened in that island is so much worse than anybody seems to be willing to believe. But just raping kids, but torturing them to death as well, for a start.

    Think of the number of the parasitic "elite" he saw there. Of course he believes everyone else is evil, too. As far as he is concerned, he saw the proof of it. In their world, that kind of horrid vile behavior is, in fact, normal.

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  • Well yeah we all see the evil in the world, but i guess what i think defines people is whether they choose to be part of the problem or the solution. Just clarifying that's no excuse even if it's some kind of explanation for trump or anyone else's depravity.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, you can do a pre-emptive surprise strike against a foreign military and still be the "good guys". It's just that we aren't the good guys when we did this pre-emptive military strike against a foreign military.... Or grade school girls... Because our top military brass has been replaced by retards loyal to trump.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago*

    Everybody is the hero in their own story. Incidentally, this is something Maga do not understand; they honestly believe everyone else just wants them to fail, that we all know we're wrong and trying to take them down, anyway. For them, we all actively chose evil.

    But, my point is "good guy" is inherently subjective. But that means you cannot preemptively strike and not be the villain, as well.

    There is no "good guy" in the theater of war, though; to be involved is to be as evil as everyone else there.

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  • [–] 51 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Does he not realize what he’s implying based on the ultimate fate of imperial Japan after they did the Pearl Harbor?

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago

    Also, Germany (Japan’s biggest ally) was pissed when they heard about Japan’s attack, because they were hoping to conquer all of Europe before they even considered taking on America. The surprise attack was a surprise to Germany too. And not a welcome one.

    And sure enough, America’s allies all balked when Trump begged them for help in securing the strait.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    How did you not realise the obviousness of the answer while typing? He so far from being able to comprehend anything on that level. It's like asking if a toddler can't understand the nuances of different ideologies on the same side of the left-right political system.

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  • [–] 50 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Its crazy how well he represents the worst of america so well. Let me tell you folks no one does it better. The best people are all saying it. Top people in fact.

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  • [–] 37 points 7 months ago (11 children)

    Remember that the US nuked Japan in response. So I guess he'd be ok if Iran nuked the US in response?

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  • [–] -4 points 7 months ago* (8 children)

    They did not nuke Japan as a response to Pearl Harbor. It was a response to Japan stupidly ignoring the Potsdam Declaration when Germany had already been defeated.

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  • [+] -6 points 7 months ago* (7 children)

    How would you know what FDRs motivation was?

    "This is for Pearl Harbor, I've been waiting a long time for this".

    It could have been his response to Pearl Harbor, so your correction is REJECTED

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    I'm going to nitpick a bit but FDR was president and made the decision to go to war with Japan over pearl harbor. Truman made the final decision to drop the nuclear weapons on Japan.

    Roosevelt had likely a plan since the Manhattan project was under his presidency but Truman inherited that.

    I think it's mostly accepted that the USA did not nuke Japan specifically because of pearl harbor but more to force a rapid surrender. Japan was being extremely stubborn and the estimated loss of US forces was very high to continue the war.

    I also think FDR and his admin were motivated to pursue the Manhattan project in the first place due to the intel that the Nazis were also researching nuclear weapons. Nothing to do with Japan.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    I'd just like to take a moment to say how glad I am that most US presidents didn't have social media to tell us their thoughts 24/7.

    It's very possible that some of them were just as dumb as their 21st-century counterparts, but at least we don't have the tweets to prove it.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago*

    There have been plenty of dumb in the esteemed position of POTUS, but I would like to make the brave claim that Trump is on an entirely different level intellectually compared to most, if not all, previous presidents.

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  • [–] 31 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    "Oval Office stunned..."

    No, they weren't. No one is surprised when Trump makes a complete ass of himself in front of other world leaders, it's sort of his thing.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    I don't work near the tangerine, I can't stand listening to him, I wish I never had to hear his voice again.

    The only I didn't expect in this was that he was in the room with the Japanese PM. Not even really a surprise, just didn't know that was happening.

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  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    The biggest buyer of US debt everyone. Lucky for Trump she's a boot licker.

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Wow, I thought the title is exaggerated but the room did fell silent after that joke. Even Trump seemed to notice it didn't land that well. Impressive.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago

    I fucking hate him...

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  • [–] 38 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Time for Japan to dump their 1 trillion in US bonds. That'll be worse than Pearl Harbor for them.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

    Japan is like the rest of the world, they bought into the idea US was too big to fail. You can't just "dump" $1T in bonds.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

    BRICS replacing USD is like how we declare every year the year of the linux desktop lol.

    When USD goes down, its gonna bring down the world with it lol.

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