I mean he's gotta say people are wrong for not liking it, it's his job to sell it
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"completely wrong" and proceeds to say it's just a "fusion".
It IS an AI slop filter, and you can take it and shove it up your ass alongside all of your stupid jackets.
he needs the money so he can buy more JACKETS.
I never would trust a 70 year old tech bro wearing a leather jacket.
Wasn't it always an Ai driven filter? What is different about 5 that makes it detestable in comparison?
It completely changes the graphics into 'ai slop'. If you look at their examples, it makes the game looks like slop videos.
What did dlss 4 and 3 do?
This one uses generative AI to "add details" instead of just adding pixels for more resolution. It can decide what a character "should" look like pushing a more homogeneous design to anyone using this since it will be built in training models of who knows what origin.
Looking forward to the day I boot up a new game and all the characters look like this because I don't have DLSS 9 enabled

On the bright side there are more games than anybody can play in a lifetime that already exist. Sucks ass for my favourite hobby and lifelong companion from before my memory begins, but hey.
And, indies are still going strong. AAA died ten years ago, but we still get classics like Outer Wilds
Yeah, it's actually been kind of a relief to have fewer new games to look forward to every year. I have a backlog of something like 700 unplayed games already in my library. I know I'm not going to play them all as much as they deserve before I die, but being able to make a much bigger dent in them is nice.
Gamers do not want x.
Gamers are wrong about this.
That is definitely how it works. Keep pushing that line.
I don't like this movie.
You are wrong and must like this movie because I like it!
Fuck. Off.
We're at the "the customer is always wrong" stage of capitalism. Wheeeee
That's because everyone remembers that particular saying incorrectly, similarly to "a few bad apples," or "the blood is thicker than water." Everything and every saying is being twisted to mean exactly opposite what it should be to protect the pedophile capitalists that own everything.
No. They force us to like their slop to keep their mouths full of shareholder-dicks to get more of that thick and juicy shareholder sap.
So is nvidia's plan to just not have any market share in a few years?
When the AI bubble pops they're going to need someone to buy their stuff again. Perhaps pissing everybody off isn't the best long-term strategy. But what do I know I'm only their target demographic.
And they'll keep being wrong. But that's ok, flat earthers still exist too.
That's been the line they have pushed for at least three decades now. It didn't seem to be hurting them until rather recently, when it started affecting the larger software world.
Same with DLSS 1, in a few years people will like it.
Probably... not? I'm not sure anymore, about it but i think everything is going to look the same in some years with this tech and we, gamers, are becoming more and more aware of our power to turn the tides so, our hate could bury the sloppy part of the tech. EPIC CEO thought the same (in some years people will love me) with the epicstore and people mostly still hate it even with 100 free games in their account.
DLSS has no application in AI, though, so that point is not really valid here.
There's absolutely no application for DLSS 5 for anything other than gaming
I'm increasingly happy my hardware is a generation behind and incompatible with this shit.
Same, I have a 3090 that's a secondary card in my system used only for video rendering because of how well it processes with NVENC. All my gaming GPUs are AMD now.
This needs TWO 5090 to work, so even current generation is not enough.
To be fair who has two 5090s laying around to use this crap? This isn‘t so much a „generation behind“ thing and more of a „overpriced luxury toy for the top .01%“. There is no market for this. It‘s all smoke and mirrors.
Only one? I got a newish computer, but I use my old ibm Thinkpad with an i5 and igpu, plus my steam deck, way more than that thing for gaming. The Thinkpad is mainly for nostalgia and a forever, but oddly non nuclear, war in civ V.
"Well, first of all, they're completely wrong,"
Proceeds to explain exactly what everyone hates about it.
"The consumers don't know what they want. I, the CEO, know what the consumers want. And the consumers want to give me money!"
None of this is done for the average consumer/gamer. We're not the consumers he's addressing.
"Do you guys not have two GPUs?"
Jensen Huang has all the GPUs, he can probably play games where each character has its own dedicated GPU and every atom and molecule of the environment is rendered in real time with a hyper-realistic physics engine, with built-in AI that plays for you so that even your idle pastimes are automated giving you more time to WORK AND PRODUCE VALUE FOR THE OWNER-CASTE.
"This game only needs two GPUs to run, what's the problem?"
By the amount and intensity that this man tries to sell his garbage through sheer bluff and bs you’d think he’s running to be President someday.
Strong principal Skinners energy. "Does nobody want my AI slop filter? No, it's the gamers who are wrong."
I'm tired boss
Still on a 1660ti and probably will be for the foreseeable future lol.
RX590 reporting in for the 'never able to upgrade' squad...
GTX 760 🫡
It's "super clocked" so you know it's good!!
Lol mine's the MSI 'Fatboy' edition. It has a 50% bigger heat sink, so I can't use the PCI port below whichever slot it's in. 😂
Repurposed my 750ti in my homelab server lol. That poor thing is also likely not gonna rest any time soon.
Surely this is just a marketing stunt they pulled in the hopes of temporarily pumping share prices or something? Despite their claims that it can be optimized before release, I think there is basically no way they get it running at playable frame rates without a second dedicated graphics card on current gen hardware. They're going to release it with terrible performance, promise to improve it, a few people who have dual 5090 setups will try it but almost everyone will ignore it, and the promised optimizations will either never materialize or they'll be much less impactful than promised.
“The reason for that is because, as I have explained very carefully, DLSS 5 fuses controllability of the of geometry and textures and everything about the game with generative AI,” Huang continued.
He seems to be thinking of it as basically a post-processing effect, but it's certainly the least performant one ever devised. Even if it's true that the art teams can tweak it to get exactly the effect they want, I find it hard to believe they'd ever be able to get it running on the hardware they're targeting, so it will just be an expensive novelty for games that want to promise the most bells and whistles.
Edit: Wait I just saw this,
"It’s not post-processing, it’s not post-processing at the frame level, it’s generative control at the geometry level," he said.
What is he on about? Surely it's not really mucking around with stuff earlier in the rendering pipeline? That would make it completely different from all previous versions of DLSS, why would they call it DLSS 5? I don't think he understands how it works at all.
It's definitely a stunt for share-holders, not directed at consumers.
no way they get it running at playable frame rates without a second dedicated graphics card on current gen hardware.
Their marketers are salivating at the thought.
Weird to say it changes geometry when all the vids clearly have identical geometry before and after
Remember, he's never talking to us, he's talking to major stockholders.
Calling it now: Jensen Huang's mind has been emptied and replaced with AI chips. That's why he just spouts AI generated nonsense.
I've heard a number of creators try talking about how this is a good thing actually and it is just misunderstood... And I've got to say: after it's come out that nvidia has threatened creators in the past... I really think it starts getting obvious who's still kissing the ring. This is some emperors new clothes shit.
If nvidia can't just make a better card anymore cool. No worries. Want to get into bed with the industrial military complex? Great. Message recieved. Want to overwrite an artists design with filters? Stay the fuck in your lane. You design chips that draw what they are told. If you can't do that right anymore then get out of our industry and make room for someone who can.
Todd Howard is slop-pilled. RIP elder scrolls and fallout.
If Starfield didn't murder everyone's hope for their future titles I don't know what will...
You think the Fallout 4 remaster would have done it as well.
I'm thinking we get AI-slopped remastered New Vegas and/or Fallout 3 next.
Right? Todd couldn‘t make a decent game anymore, let alone a decent looking game if his life depended on it. It‘s no surprise he embraces slop. He‘s exactly the type of guy to believe the hype.
This makes me even more sure of my decision to get an AMD card as my next GPU (currently I have an RTX 4080 so it's still a long time until that happens but still).
Just a reminder that AMD is also just another money hungry corporation that would sell gamers out to AI. Don't forget that AMD just put a 20% stake of their company and output in a AI partnership with Meta.
That said, I also bought a 9070 XT a year ago because I didn't want to directly support Nvidia and their never ending quest to force AI into games, which this kind of at least provided some justification for that as I don't support AI Only Fans being injected into my games. Steam already has enough of those types of games without direct AI injection.
That's why in rooting for a small mom and pop competitor to the space, like checks notes ... Intel.
We're fucked aren't we?
We’re fucked aren’t we?
Right there with you. Have a 4080, and only reason I got this one, was because it was cheaper(by a sizable chunk) than the 7900xtx when I got it.
Dude, that card will survive the bursting AI bubble, world war 3 and then some. You can easily use that card for the next 15 years.
Every time I got an AMD card I got burned, so that's not really an option. Last try was a 5700 XT and oh my god was that a pain. So much so that instead of my usual 4-5 year upgrade cycle I grabbed a 3080 one year later.
Nowadays DLSS is a must for me, it just looks so much better than TAA. FSR is alright, but not great.
I guess lemmy is big enough for shills now.
Meh, I've owned an ATI 4870X2, GTX 580, GTX 970, 5700 XT, 3080 and now 5080.
Also helped out friends with their GPUs, 2070 Super, 6800 XT (which have a really shitty fan curve at stock).
The 5700 XT had the worst drivers of the bunch. Crashes, stuttering, .. AMD managed to fix most issues with time, but not all.
Nvidia drivers early this year were shit too, but at this point they are great again. I don't care about the brand, I only care about my PC running well.
You do know the games themselves generally choose the type of anti-aliasing used right? Your graphics card doesn't run anti-aliasing ontop of everything else.
???
Of course the game developers choose what to put into their games. Some games have FXAA, TAA, DLSS, FSR and even XeSS.
With an Nvidia card you can use them all. With AMD you can't use DLSS.
Not sure what your last sentence means, of course your GPU runs AA?
Never bought anything from NVIDIA after the 1080ti and I feel real good about that.
Never bought anything from them after the 500 series lol. The last one that didn't give me any problems was a 1060 when I set it up for a friend, everything after that always had some nasty gremlins
I still occasionally use an old sli'd dual 260 gtx setup I inherited. It's hooked up to my "theatre room" (not rich, just have a multi purpose room with a projector and couch.).




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