A handful of companies monopolise the web, with unprecedented access to our data. But there are many more ethical – and often distinctively European – alternatives

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[–] 26 points 8 months ago

Don't forget to ditch Google and Apple pay as well.

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  • [–] 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

    they left out framasoft (the greatest suite that most degooglers have never heard of)

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I indeed had never heard of it, but now I have! I looks like a great suit of tools!

    What's your experience using it?

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    Framasoft is not so much about providing the service itself, they have limited resources, but to show alternatives exist and are usable. They develop some of the tools (we own them Peertube!).

    So they host services, and sometimes end them (with ample warning and instructions to migrate). As they explain: their goal is not to become an "open Google". It's to to make de-googling possible and usable by the many.

    As service providers, you should look into the CHATONS.

    These are mostly based on the Framasoft suite.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Amazon is a hard one to find an alternative to. Mostly what I try to do now is buy directly from the brand. But they don't always have their own website.

    Other times I can find the item locally. I'll buy it even if it costs a little more.

    Also, sometimes the item is only available at Amazon or Home Depot online, for example. In that case, I'll pick Home Depot cuz they're a slightly smaller megacorp.

    As a very last resort, I'll will begrudgingly buy from Amazon. Like if the item is only on Amazon or if the item is significantly cheaper there....

    But, fuck Amazon Prime! That's a total scam. I canceled that years ago and never looked back.

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  • [–] 69 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    Why doesn’t it mention the Fediverse at all???

    Seems like they’re advocating using a Fairphone running e/OS, Ecosia as the search engine, LibreWolf as the browser, LibreOffice as the office package, and W for social media?

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The steady exodus from Elon Musk’s X has benefited smaller, independent alternatives such as ... German-developed Mastodon

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago

    This is probably a much more efficient "mention of the fediverse" than if the journalist had started trying to explain that there is this federated network of independent social media sites bla bla bla.

    The people reading this are looking for something they can understand. I expect naming Mastodon and leaving it to them to check it out will convert more people than if they started trying to explain what it is.

    I'm a bit weirded out by all the attention given to w-social.eu by mainstream media, though. First of all it doesn't exist yet, second we have no reason to believe it will actually be decent, third we have good reason to believe it won't be.

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  • [–] 32 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Yeah, that was my main criticism of the article, it completely omitted social media.

    Also, the author mentions Codeberg as the “developer” of Librewolf, so it seems is not the most tech savvy around.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Huh, I wouldn't say, the article mentioned Codeberg as the developer of Librewolf.

    It says:

    An even more private (but still free and equally effective) version of Firefox is LibreWolf, which was developed on Codeberg, a German nonprofit.

    To be honest this sentence doesn't make any sense at all: Librewolf wasn't developed, it is in active development. But it is true that it's being developed on Codeberg, which still doesn't convey a lot of information to the reader... I dont know if this article is very helpful at all...

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    There's a whole section on social media. That's where they discuss Mastodon and W, among others

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I meant it barely touched the surface there when there’s plenty of alternatives, not mentioning it just mixes xitter with facebook, instead of mentioning alternatives for each “category” (ie: instagram / pixelfed, x / mastodon, facebook / friendica, etc.). If you read the articles it seems that there’s almost no choice here.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    And social media is arguably the main thing. The network effects make it sticky but the US has been amazing at exporting it's culture, social media amplifies that, and right now that culture is a bit fascisty with a hint of freedom stopping regulation of the rich and misleading. That said, but that lens, I'm not really sure Lemmy is a great alternative since it has a lot of people from the US already and I think it wouldn't scale well (either because of lack of instances, burn out from moderators, or the problems migrating here)

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago

    i just want a linux phone

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    What is the opinion on Vivaldi here as an alternative? I am using Firefox and Zen currently. But I wouldn't mind jumping towards a European alternative. I switched to Firefox to support an alternative to chromium based browsers, but I think EU/Nordic angle is more important to me.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    Personally I would days away from any chromium-based browser, if only on principle.

    Zen is great and keeps getting better, if anyone tried it some time ago and had stability problems, chances are your experience would be much better now.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    Vivaldi is basically Chrome but better, design is better, privacy 1000% better and there's a couple of extra cool features. But very similar to Chrome, for Chrome users it's the easiest swap, a true upgrade.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    My gripe on a browser is I want one that whe. I click a link it's opened in a container by default so it can't scoop up all my cookies and browsing history.

    Right now my flow is Firefox focus as default browser, then if it's a page I want to view later or keep open I share it to Firefox. Kind of annoying but ideally I have this in just one browser.

    And as I write this and checked, Firefox for Android now does this lol. Vivaldi, the one recommended in the article does not. Not to mention I try and support something that is not chrome-based. We need alternatives

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    LibreWolf doesn't open tabs in containers, but it is kind of hard coded to never save cookies, passwords, trackers. Every time you close and open browser, it is like to open a freshly installed browser on a freshly installed OS.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Now all it needs to do is randomize your fingerprint.

    because your fingerprint can be just as, if not more identifiable and trackable, than your cookies and such.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    Huh, I was just writing that I wished Firefox would do this, so thanks! I'll check it out. Much appreciated.

    EDITED to add: unfortunately it's not for me. I tried it out in automatic mode (recommended) and while it worked perfectly, as soon as I enabled it my browser started to get unstable, pages would lock, mouse pointer would disappear, etc. And then as soon as I disabled the extension all went back to normal. So it's a no-go for now. But thanks for letting us know it's there.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    well those are really not supposed to be happening, weird

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Yeah, I wouldn't worry about the safety of the extension, though. I have a lot of extensions going already, and this is not the first one to go bonkers as a later addition. So chances are excellent it will work for others just fine.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Floorp, a Firefox fork, containerizes also. Floorp does it in the same manner, meaning you create the containers and assign sites, and only after that does that site automatically get containerized. I do something similar to what you're doing, but it's between Firefox and Floorp. I wish they'd start containerizing sites by default, but for now this is what I do.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    First thing I saw was "Subscribe via Google"

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    i knew it wasn't gonna mention the fediverse

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago

    Great article, don´t forget ebay is 100 times better than amazon. For who wants AI privacy we at Hugston made HugstonOne is free and European, Actually the only European AI local App maybe.

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    [–] 30 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    An even more private (but still free and equally effective) version of Firefox is LibreWolf, which was developed by Codeberg, a German software nonprofit.

    Wait until they find out about the programming team GitHub - that group has developed an astounding amount of projects.

    It's a good article to introduce non-tech people to alternatives, error(s?) aside.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    This is a funny mistake to make, but after looking around on their website, I have genuinely no idea what group to attribute the project to. There's no name in the privacy disclaimer. You can attribute it to the people that developed it, but that seems almost tautological... And perhaps, if they're privacy enthusiasts too, they'd rather not be named and attributed to a location.

    If I wasn't aware of GitHub let alone its alternatives, I'd assume Codeberg was the group responsible for the project too. It's mentioned on every page footer, after all

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Yeah, it's really just indicative of the author being unfamiliar with open source projects and their general structure - which is fine.

    LibreWolf (as far as I can see) has a fairly standard OSS team structure - project lead/admin, several major contributing coders, a few notable prior contributors, and of course dozens of contributors of small pull requests. They do explain on their homepage that they're "largely a community-driven project", so if I was a journo I'd just refer to them as the 'LibreWolf team'.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Even if the rightoids win in Europe simply reducing the megacorp monopolies by just distributing the share is a great thing

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Interesting article, but no mention of WhatsApp.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

    Anyone has recommendations of an EU cloud for sharing data (pro)?

    Thanks everyone, I'll check them all out! It's for a friends company, they need something like dropbox/wetransfer.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Infomaniak (Swiss) is really nice from a usability perspective and also really affordable. With KSuite they also offer an inbuilt office suite.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Keep away from infomaniak! Easy to register and cheap, all too perfect. But then your account is locked, cannot recover it by phone or alternate email, and they ask for a copy of your identity card, thing that is not needed to sigup! I just wonder, what the hell will they do with it? How can they validate it? Its not a good thing believe me. Someone has your data and you are blackmailed in order to recover access. Well I just send them a fake ID and guess what? 5 minutes later I have access to my account just to retrieve all data and never look back! They need the ID for their customer safety!!! Lol

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Depends what you mean by data sharing and what exactly you expect to get out of it (E2EE?) but in most case I would also suggest Infomaniak Ksuite. It's really good and not expensive.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    What you mean sharing data? Like a database? Or files?

    I use Hetzner, from Germany. They are good and relatively affordable. But they have increased the prices recently.

    You also have Scaleway, from France, also good.

    It depends what you want to achieve.

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    [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Great to see a big outlet with a story like this.

    They don't have my preferred alternatives for the first couple: Kagi search (one great feature is being able to down-rank domains as a preference) and fastmail (I like their auth options more than proton).

    But it's also nice that they only mention a couple top picks, decision paralysis does make the switch a lot harder.

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    [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    There are some great suggestions in there. I'm using proton and I'm still working on changing my email on many services but I'm just forwarding everything for the time being

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